*****Dallas Cowboys 2022 Offseason Thread*****

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tk for tu juan said:

According to Jerry in the press conference, there was a team that called looking to move up to 24 with the intent to take Smith.

Jerry is so full of crap

We passed on a league ready interior lineman in Linderbaum to take the dude that led the NCAA in penalties and may never have the technique to be a quality tackle.

I hope I eat crow, i really do, but right now this pick is just seems mind-numbingly terrible. I truly think Linderbaum was the best OL prospect in the class, and I was shocked he fell to us.
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I think Tyler Smith has one of the highest ceilings out of this OL class. He Shows real power in his game and has perhaps the most impressive run blocking highlights in this class. He's only 21 years old and didn't play OL until his junior year of high school on a team that only won 7 games in 3 years. He has all the tools you can't coach & there's a lot that needs to be fixed to untap his potential, but this is someone joe Philbin will love to coach.

Now on the Connor Williams comparisons, this guy is completely different than him. Yeah, the holding penalties need to be fixed, but this is not a 290 pound guard with no strength. He's 6'5 325 who has 34" arms and a longer wingspan than Evan Neal. Oh, and he also runs a 5.05 40.

Now I know we all had other players in mind but the board didn't fall to us like it did on the mock draft simulators. Let it play out & hopefully the guys we want fall to us tomorrow.
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Good post and I hope you are right. I'm a sounding board for the guys I listen to... I certainly don't watch tape and grade o-line prospects.

Smith was mocked to us by some and the guys I know didn't have kind things to say. It's why I was so disgusted at the pick. But doesn't mean it can't work out.
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Im not ready to complain about this pick. If the scouts really like Smith then its a worthy pick. I have to believe they didn't like the Iowa kid because he only plays center. I think this staff still think Biaditz can be good.

Personally I would have drafted defense but let's see how day 2 pans out.
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Salute CornPops Message said:

Eagles and Giants kicked the Cowboys ass in round 1…..
Redskins got the Penn State WR too
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Texafret
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Dallas Cowboys last 3 offensive lineman drafted in first round
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Loling at the guys believing Jerrys schtick...... as a gm he woulda been fired 4 times by now!!!!
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Day 2 predictions?
I'm going with Demarvin Leal in the 2nd. I think Dan Quinn could do some great things with Leal as he did with Michael Bennett.

Going with Tariq Woolen in the 3rd. 6'4" sub-4.3 40 corner. Seems like a Dan Quinn corner all the way.
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I still think he's a project, but the tools are there. I think he'll have his moments early on in his career, especially in the passing game, but you'll also see him making key blocks on a Tony pollard TD run.
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We drafted a project tackle in the 1st round???
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Vince Blake said:

Day 2 predictions?
I'm going with Demarvin Leal in the 2nd. I think Dan Quinn could do some great things with Leal as he did with Michael Bennett.

Going with Tariq Woolen in the 3rd. 6'4" sub-4.3 40 corner. Seems like a Dan Quinn corner all the way.


Leal is a steal in the 2nd round
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AgBQ-00 said:

We drafted a project tackle in the 1st round???

Yes. Thankfully, we won't need him to play tackle early on in his career. Let him play guard where his power & strength will be better used while he works on his technique.

Hell, maybe he kicks ass and stays at G even after Tyron smith leaves.
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I think the Cowboys view Smith as someone who in a year or two could be as good as the LTs that went at the top of the draft. And looking at the board, if they didn't like Linderbaum, then the OL talent thinned out pretty good. There weren't any other WRs you'd take at 24. And if they went LB or DE, they're still left with the "needs" at OL and WR to fill even later.

I think they were in a bad spot and this was the best option they came up with.
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Yeah, i think the positional flexibility is what sold them. Either guard, or either tackle spot he can play. Maybe he slides outside, but hes about as plug and play at OG that you can get. I love Linderbaum, but he is a center all the way. he is too small to play guard at this level, and i know he went the very next pick, but all things being equal, the positional value is higher with what Smith can do.


Still think they should have gone with Johnson. I think JJ and co just went into the first round convinced they were going OL. maybe they tried to trade back, but i would bet Smith would have been gone by the end of the 1st.
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Is anyone truly surprised by the pick? I say we pull our funds together and pay some high dollar hoar to tape jerry dropping the n word to run him out. Beyond this draft, years of mediocrity, and turning a blind eye to some perv taking up skirts of his own daughter, it's never going to end. I'm expecting the second round pick to be some running back all teams have going in the sixth round. Does anyone not see this team picking in the top ten or top five next year?
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That is all well and good, if he is truly plug and play at G immediately. But if he is such a raw prospect and penalties are an issue with him...yikes.

As always, I am hoping for the best, but I'm not overly impressed with the idea of a project as a 1st rounder.
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I don't know anything about this guy. Maybe he turns out great, maybe not. I think center was just as big a priority and the Iowa guy looks like a no brainer so why not him? He immediately went to the Ravens next pick and they have a good track record for drafting. Guy will probably be a 10+ year starter.
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98Ag99Grad said:

I don't know anything about this guy. Maybe he turns out great, maybe not. I think center was just as big a priority and the Iowa guy looks like a no brainer so why not him? He immediately went to the Ravens next pick and they have a good track record for drafting. Guy will probably be a 10+ year starter.

Yeah, I'm torn on that one. As many folks have said, the dude is really light at 295lbs. Dallas has a long history of wanting big OL and they do quite a bit of power and man scheme. I think Linderbaum is a zone guy all the way which is what the Ravens do...I think he will be a very good for them, but maybe not as much for other teams.

Keep in mind, he's supposed to be the best Center prospect in a long time yet 24 teams passed on him. Also, we now have Jordan Davis in our division. That would not be a good matchup for a 295lbs Center, I don't care how good of a technician he is.
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I don't think Leal makes it down to Dallas' pick.

But if he does, I'm pretty confident the Jones family would pass on him anyway for some player that leaves a sizeable number of fans and analysts scratching their heads.

As far as their 1st pick I'm guessing he showed well at the combine and has great power they feel they can work with and mold. Maybe not the best pick there but maybe he's not Shante Carver either.
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Yeah, I think everyone needs to remember that in any given draft, there's only about 15 to 20 first round grades. I've been reading for a while that this draft was closer to the 15 number than 20. If that's the case, it stands to reason that the Cowboys would most likely be drafting a '2nd round' guy.

I think they have earned the benefit of the doubt with OL recently. This guy has tools and attitude that you can't coach. Technique can be fixed.

And I will also point out that there are more than just a few NFL folks on twitter world that are not down on this pick. In fact, some folks really like the pick. I think given the offseason, the Cowboys deserve much of the frustration they are getting from the fan base, but we can't lose sight of the fact that Will McClay and his staff have been solid to very good in the draft the last several years.
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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

I don't think Leal makes it down to Dallas' pick.

But if he does, I'm pretty confident the Jones family would pass on him anyway for some player that leaves a sizeable number of fans and analysts scratching their heads.

As far as their 1st pick I'm guessing he showed well at the combine and has great power they feel they can work with and mold. Maybe not the best pick there but maybe he's not Shante Carver either.
Yup, I hate to admit it but Leal was never as good as we thought he'd be.

Maybe he gets stronger and faster but maybe not. His motor seemed to be a bit off for his perceived talent.

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PooDoo said:




Sturm jamming Nirvana Unplugged.
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I have always thought A&M played Leal out of position. He is not an Edge. He needs to add about 10-15lbs and play the 3 at 310lbs or so, and I think he would have been much more effective. I think that's what will happen in the NFL and I think he will have a solid career.
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Never mad about a line pick either way. Just need to see if he can play. The penalty problem is not something I think the Cowboys can fix though. Let's hope it doesn't get worse
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Macarthur
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I'm not expert but I've read that penalties for OL can typically be traced back to two things.

Poor Technique - can be fixed

Getting physically whipped - much harder to fix (see Connor Williams)

This kid is not going to get physically whipped very often. Therefore, I think the Cowboys think if they can fix his technique, he's golden. I think it is not out of the question that with this kid being very young and maybe not getting the best coaching at that level, he could make a big jump in technique.
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6 minutes of ass kicking.
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Well, the Cowboys are on track at least... they checked the o-line box early (which was our biggest need and I wouldn't mind taking another before the 5th round is done). Just gonna have to trust the fact that if Will McClay had him as one of their top 2nd round graded player (they only had 14 first round grades) then I guess so.


Going into Round 2 WR has to be on of their huge priorities. We saw a crap ton of WRs get drafted and traded for last night... I really hope they fall to Dallas at #56. But I have a feeling if there is a guy we really like, we are gonna have to jump ahead of teams like GB to get him (or somebody else will).
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From the film I've seen, I love his nasty streak. If he has a chance to pile drive you, you're gonna get punished. Reminds me of Erik Williams.
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Dane is one of the best in the business and if he says other teams were seeing this guy as a first, I'm good with that. He's got all the tools, now it's up to the coaches.

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It's funny because there were multiple people mocking Tyler in the 1st round, some even to Dallas, and we chalked it up to more BS mock drafts from guys that didn't really know who each team really liked.

This was definitely a case of our Dallas area guys getting a bit fooled for the past few weeks and a lot of us were caught off guard. But if you listened to the draft show live last night... by the time pick 18-20 were coming off the board they were pretty zero'd in on Tyler Smith. I think they all had their "OH" moment and realized their oversight in recent weeks.

A lot of those guys admitted that they overlooked him because he wasn't one of the Cowboy's 30 visits... that's because he is a local kid and had already been here via the Dallas Day visits.


I'm perfectly fine with the pick the day after. And hearing that TN was trying to trade up to Dallas's spot specifically for Smith is reassuring that Dallas isn't alone on an island here. I'm ready for Day 2!
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Yeah it's so pointless to have such a definitive disapproving take on this pick. We all knew OL was a major need. He has first round talent and the Cowboys haven't had much success with non-1st round OL in the recent past. I guess the jury is still out on McGovern, Ball and Biaditz.

I'm a big "best player available" believer. So I was a little peeved they didn't get Johnson. He seemed to be the 2nd best EDGE player in the entire draft on most boards. Getting that at 24 would have been quite a steal. But we don't know where the Cowboys had him ranked.
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YOu know, I think Biadasz has a chance to be much better with a hoss beside him at LG. I think the weakness there was that he and Connor were next to each other. I think having two massive G's next to him is going to help him out.
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Macarthur said:

YOu know, I think Biadasz has a chance to be much better with a hoss beside him at LG. I think the weakness there was that he and Connor were next to each other. I think having two massive G's next to him is going to help him out.


That is true. That is probably what the FO is thinking too and explains why they took Smith over the Iowa center who everyone thinks is a sure thing. The issue is he only plays center.
 
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