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Just to clarify it has ALWAYS been in every man's best interest to not have sex outside of a loving committed relationship. Sex isnt a means of self gratification is is a uninifying act. There is a reason why porn isnt satisfying nor hook up culture.

Sadly our current culture has equated sexual promiscuity with elevated status. Confusing the notion of something is good therefore way more of that same thing must be better. Yet it isn't.
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texagbeliever said:

Just to clarify it has ALWAYS been in every man's best interest to not have sex outside of a loving committed relationship. Sex isnt a means of self gratification is is a uninifying act. There is a reason why porn isnt satisfying nor hook up culture.

Sadly our current culture has equated sexual promiscuity with elevated status. Confusing the notion of something is good therefore way more of that same thing must be better. Yet it isn't.

I don't disagree. I believe God created sex to be between one husband and one wife solely. However, as you said, that is not how society treats it. As such, if you aren't going to raise your children to wait for marriage, you need to have a good, long talk with them (especially your sons) about the very real dangers of being labeled a rapist and having your life ruined if you hook up with the wrong girl.
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94chem said:

Keyno said:

Woman gets drunk and does drugs and has "relations" with multiple men. She feels regret and shame later (as she should). She proceeds to press charges and sue.

This is our liberal democracy society


Drunken consent is not consent. Sorry your parents failed you, and everyone who agrees with you. Sex is part of a relationship for a reason. A hookup under the influence of drugs and alcohol is a dangerous place to be. Sorry, it is, and if you don't know this, your education and morals are deficient.


That's ridiculous. Especially since the folks who claim that are almost always solely saying it only applies to women.

There are levels of drunkenness and just being drunk doesn't relieve one of accountability for their own choices and actions. While being passed out drunk or stoned is another entirely different matter.

Otherwise, any dude who gets drunk and nails a fat chick he wouldn't when sober has been raped by your logic. See how ridiculous that statement is?

As the Drive-by Truckers once sang, "the liquor don't make you do a thing, it just lets you."
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zgolfz85 said:

samurai_science said:

zgolfz85 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

Ingalls is now saying he was sodomized while he was unconscious by Jane Hoe. Good lord

lol

that seems like something that can only damage his case and hurt his credibility


No it actually doesn't. She should be charged

I'm not disagreeing with you on all the other stuff, but if you think this new claim doesn't make him look silly and make the public at large do a massive wtf when reading that, then I guess we live on different planets. She sodomized you? cmon bro. Just stick to your initial statements....no need to go cartoonish about it

I'm also not disagreeing that she should be charged. It certainly sounds like she continued sexual acts with at least one incapacitated guy, maybe two. But...sodomy? with what...a strap-on? her fingers? a dildo?


In what way does it make him look silly, and undermine his credibility? In one of her statements she indicated that she thought the guy asking for a threesome might be gay. Maybe that is something she is into, or at least curious about, and maybe she thought that stimulating him in that fashion might get him back in the game? If that's what she was thinking, it isn't a stretch to think she might have let her fingers slip somewhere private as she tried to get her crush to continue having sex with her. If true, it would show that she was acting in a willful manner to satisfy the desires that got her in the situation in the first place, which may speak to whether or not she was, ar least at that time in the evening, capable of expressing consent to what she did and did not want to do.

Thus his claim seems to mesh with statements she made, and if true is clearly a sexual act performed on him to which he did not consent, to which he couldn't consent because he was high and drunk to the point of passing out.
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oldyeller said:

zgolfz85 said:

samurai_science said:

zgolfz85 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

Ingalls is now saying he was sodomized while he was unconscious by Jane Hoe. Good lord

lol

that seems like something that can only damage his case and hurt his credibility


No it actually doesn't. She should be charged

I'm not disagreeing with you on all the other stuff, but if you think this new claim doesn't make him look silly and make the public at large do a massive wtf when reading that, then I guess we live on different planets. She sodomized you? cmon bro. Just stick to your initial statements....no need to go cartoonish about it

I'm also not disagreeing that she should be charged. It certainly sounds like she continued sexual acts with at least one incapacitated guy, maybe two. But...sodomy? with what...a strap-on? her fingers? a dildo?


In what way does it make him look silly, and undermine his credibility? In one of her statements she indicated that she thought the guy asking for a threesome might be gay. Maybe that is something she is into, or at least curious about, and maybe she thought that stimulating him in that fashion might get him back in the game? If that's what she was thinking, it isn't a stretch to think she might have let her fingers slip somewhere private as she tried to get her crush to continue having sex with her. If true, it would show that she was acting in a willful manner to satisfy the desires that got her in the situation in the first place, which may speak to whether or not she was, ar least at that time in the evening, capable of expressing consent to what she did and did not want to do.

Thus his claim seems to mesh with statements she made, and if true is clearly a sexual act performed on him to which he did not consent, to which he couldn't consent because he was high and drunk to the point of passing out.


Also, it's not a new claim
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American Pie. Stifler. Degenerate myth that I'm not going to promote.

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The guy who says he wouldn't do the fat chick sober is lying. He for sure would just wouldn't tell his friends about it.
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FIDO95 said:

American Pie. Stifler. Degenerate myth that I'm not going to promote.

If you know, you know.


Did you mean the movie "Road Trip"? Same actor, essentially same character, but different from the American Pie franchise.

Oddly enough, the town of Ithaca, NY plays a role in that film as well.
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A Net Full of Jello said:

texagbeliever said:

Just to clarify it has ALWAYS been in every man's best interest to not have sex outside of a loving committed relationship. Sex isnt a means of self gratification is is a uninifying act. There is a reason why porn isnt satisfying nor hook up culture.

Sadly our current culture has equated sexual promiscuity with elevated status. Confusing the notion of something is good therefore way more of that same thing must be better. Yet it isn't.

I don't disagree. I believe God created sex to be between one husband and one wife solely. However, as you said, that is not how society treats it. As such, if you aren't going to raise your children to wait for marriage, you need to have a good, long talk with them (especially your sons) about the very real dangers of being labeled a rapist and having your life ruined if you hook up with the wrong girl.

Or a girl being ruined by being recorded, pregnant, abuse, and so on by a bad guy. Sex is extremely risky. We wouldnt know that because sitcom has shown how none damaging sex is for decades.

Sure we have these very public rape allocations that have been hoaxes that are damaging. What is it like 10 over the past 10 years. That is bad and an injustice. But as a percentage of the impacted population it is incredibly insignificant to women who are roofied, emotionally abused and manipulated, raped, sexually assaulted, voyered, etc. It is why all the guys here acting like this is the worst thing ever is so ridiculous. This just has a catchy story and gives a chance for the red pill bros to blame women for ruining everything.
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When did the whole narrative about how if you or a chick are drunk then you can't consent to sex take hold? It wasn't a thing in the 90's. Obviously, it's very different if someone is so drunk or high that they're legitimately passed out/asleep and can't be woken up.

But everybody I knew at A&M in the mid/late-90's definitely hooked up with people when drunk that they regretted later when sober. And this includes dudes and chicks. Unless you were completely passed out you just basically said "man, I was drunk" learned a lesson and moved on.

But now, the idea is that if you've had a few and got a buzz on means you can't consent (really just women because it evidently only works that way) or if you regret it after the fact then you can claim rape. That's an absurdly infantilizing abdication of personal responsibility.
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I don't even know what to say to this.

A friend told me some of their co-workers were caught up in a similar situation recently. Can't verify all the details because I heard it secondhand.

Two guys and a woman, all coworkers, hooked up in a drug fueled 3-way. The woman was engaged to someone else. A day or two after the event she filed a complaint with HR and called the police. The two men were fired and the police showed up at their door.

As it turns out one of the men had his phone camera on during the encounter and recorded most of it. The woman was an obvious active participant in the activities. Had he not recorded what they did (if the story is even true) he and his coworker would probably be sitting in jail facing major charges. Neither one got their job back.

I don't know whether it's good advice to tell people just to record everything and stash it away but it's what saved them there. I'm sure there's laws in every state regarding the recording of these types of things and consent to be recorded but I'd rather be looking at that charge than life in prison for rape I didn't commit.
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samurai_science said:

94chem said:

Keyno said:

Woman gets drunk and does drugs and has "relations" with multiple men. She feels regret and shame later (as she should). She proceeds to press charges and sue.

This is our liberal democracy society


Drunken consent is not consent. Sorry your parents failed you, and everyone who agrees with you. Sex is part of a relationship for a reason. A hookup under the influence of drugs and alcohol is a dangerous place to be. Sorry, it is, and if you don't know this, your education and morals are deficient.

Since you dont know the NY law I am flagging you.


Don't expect a reply
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Does anyone else think that the left has to be frustrated and demoralized that all their "victims" turn out to be absolute ****** bags? It's got to be like Aggie football - this is our year!
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backintexas2013 said:

The guy who says he wouldn't do the fat chick sober is lying. He for sure would just wouldn't tell his friends about it.


Banging a fat chick is akin to riding a moped. It's fun until your friends find out.
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TarponChaser said:

When did the whole narrative about how if you or a chick are drunk then you can't consent to sex take hold? It wasn't a thing in the 90's. Obviously, it's very different if someone is so drunk or high that they're legitimately passed out/asleep and can't be woken up.

But everybody I knew at A&M in the mid/late-90's definitely hooked up with people when drunk that they regretted later when sober. And this includes dudes and chicks. Unless you were completely passed out you just basically said "man, I was drunk" learned a lesson and moved on.

But now, the idea is that if you've had a few and got a buzz on means you can't consent (really just women because it evidently only works that way) or if you regret it after the fact then you can claim rape. That's an absurdly infantilizing abdication of personal responsibility.



Stuff like this was circulating in the mid-late aughts, which at least has to be the origin story of how it turned out like it did and transformed into whatever out-of-control beast it is today.

It was around when "rape culture" was the buzz word du jour.
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Kentucky Jeff said:

backintexas2013 said:

The guy who says he wouldn't do the fat chick sober is lying. He for sure would just wouldn't tell his friends about it.


Banging a fat chick is akin to riding a moped. It's fun until your friends find out.


But according to today's standards if you happened to be drunk when you nailed a fat chick and then regretted it when later when your friends found out and started to make fun of you, you could then claim "rape" because you were unable to consent.
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Did Josie go on a vacation following
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Lots of photos,/ vids of her deadlifting and showing off her guns. Some speculating if she's juicing, which could increase her libido.
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BadMoonRisin said:

TarponChaser said:

When did the whole narrative about how if you or a chick are drunk then you can't consent to sex take hold? It wasn't a thing in the 90's. Obviously, it's very different if someone is so drunk or high that they're legitimately passed out/asleep and can't be woken up.

But everybody I knew at A&M in the mid/late-90's definitely hooked up with people when drunk that they regretted later when sober. And this includes dudes and chicks. Unless you were completely passed out you just basically said "man, I was drunk" learned a lesson and moved on.

But now, the idea is that if you've had a few and got a buzz on means you can't consent (really just women because it evidently only works that way) or if you regret it after the fact then you can claim rape. That's an absurdly infantilizing abdication of personal responsibility.



Stuff like this was circulating in the mid-late aughts, which at least has to be the origin story of how it turned out like it did and transformed into whatever out-of-control beast it is today.

It was around when "rape culture" was the buzz word du jour.


This pisses me off. How can a man consent when he is drunk but a woman cannot? I am female and this is ridiculous. Double standard.
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This might be a first... I agree with a feminist!



"women must now realize that they are now free. The sexual revolution has been won so why are we coddling young women?"... "if we are going to go on and on with confused, middle class girls then maybe the sexual revolution should be reversed".
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I haven't followed this as it just has sounded like a preposterous story from the get go, but that it is a leftist political operation makes sense to me on the limited information I have read/seen.

Tish James being involved for some idiotic reason tells me about all I need to know.
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nortex97 said:

I haven't followed this as it just has sounded like a preposterous story from the get go, but that it is a leftist political operation makes sense to me on the limited information I have read/seen.

Tish James being involved for some idiotic reason tells me about all I need to know.

This will help drive more women to feminism and misery.
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combat wombat said:

BadMoonRisin said:

TarponChaser said:

When did the whole narrative about how if you or a chick are drunk then you can't consent to sex take hold? It wasn't a thing in the 90's. Obviously, it's very different if someone is so drunk or high that they're legitimately passed out/asleep and can't be woken up.

But everybody I knew at A&M in the mid/late-90's definitely hooked up with people when drunk that they regretted later when sober. And this includes dudes and chicks. Unless you were completely passed out you just basically said "man, I was drunk" learned a lesson and moved on.

But now, the idea is that if you've had a few and got a buzz on means you can't consent (really just women because it evidently only works that way) or if you regret it after the fact then you can claim rape. That's an absurdly infantilizing abdication of personal responsibility.



Stuff like this was circulating in the mid-late aughts, which at least has to be the origin story of how it turned out like it did and transformed into whatever out-of-control beast it is today.

It was around when "rape culture" was the buzz word du jour.


This pisses me off. How can a man consent when he is drunk but a woman cannot? I am female and this is ridiculous. Double standard.


I think you underestimate how little the Left respects you as a woman. Same with how they think black folks don't know how to get an ID.
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nortex97 said:

I haven't followed this as it just has sounded like a preposterous story from the get go, but that it is a leftist political operation makes sense to me on the limited information I have read/seen.

Tish James being involved for some idiotic reason tells me about all I need to know.

The moment Hochul waded in and appointed Tish James, anyone thinking it wasn't political opportunism has their head in the sand. The Clancy case and this Cornell 7 deal have the AWFLs at a fever pitch ready to steamroll any man in their path and they look at Trump and consequently the GOP as the head of the snake.

You don't even have to be a lawyer to know that Tish James has little to no criminal case here given what this girl has admitted to. Her civil cases should be thrown out on their ass as well but the notion that there is criminality still being looked at here by Tish is simply a smokescreen for a political rallying cry to women.
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The whole criminal case will quietly be dismissed shortly after the election, proving it was so much theater.

There is no case. She was willingly snorting coke off a guy's dick - kinda hard to sugar coat that.
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Does anyone have the source for the unconscious guy that got the bj while passed out and allegedly told the police/filed a complaint and was ignored?

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V8Aggie said:

Does anyone have the source for the unconscious guy that got the bj while passed out and allegedly told the police/filed a complaint and was ignored?




IIRC, the NY Post has reported it and has posted receipts.
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It was ketamine, and apparently she did sugar coat it
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combat wombat said:

BadMoonRisin said:

TarponChaser said:

When did the whole narrative about how if you or a chick are drunk then you can't consent to sex take hold? It wasn't a thing in the 90's. Obviously, it's very different if someone is so drunk or high that they're legitimately passed out/asleep and can't be woken up.

But everybody I knew at A&M in the mid/late-90's definitely hooked up with people when drunk that they regretted later when sober. And this includes dudes and chicks. Unless you were completely passed out you just basically said "man, I was drunk" learned a lesson and moved on.

But now, the idea is that if you've had a few and got a buzz on means you can't consent (really just women because it evidently only works that way) or if you regret it after the fact then you can claim rape. That's an absurdly infantilizing abdication of personal responsibility.



Stuff like this was circulating in the mid-late aughts, which at least has to be the origin story of how it turned out like it did and transformed into whatever out-of-control beast it is today.

It was around when "rape culture" was the buzz word du jour.


This pisses me off. How can a man consent when he is drunk but a woman cannot? I am female and this is ridiculous. Double standard.

A lot of statutes are predicated on penetration.
https://jaapl.org/content/early/2022/12/02/JAAPL.220032-21/tab-figures-data
(look at Appendix A)
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Ryan the Temp said:

A lot of statues are predicated on penetration.
https://jaapl.org/content/early/2022/12/02/JAAPL.220032-21/tab-figures-data
(look at Appendix A)

Who's penetrating a statue?
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Ryan the Temp said:

combat wombat said:

BadMoonRisin said:

TarponChaser said:

When did the whole narrative about how if you or a chick are drunk then you can't consent to sex take hold? It wasn't a thing in the 90's. Obviously, it's very different if someone is so drunk or high that they're legitimately passed out/asleep and can't be woken up.

But everybody I knew at A&M in the mid/late-90's definitely hooked up with people when drunk that they regretted later when sober. And this includes dudes and chicks. Unless you were completely passed out you just basically said "man, I was drunk" learned a lesson and moved on.

But now, the idea is that if you've had a few and got a buzz on means you can't consent (really just women because it evidently only works that way) or if you regret it after the fact then you can claim rape. That's an absurdly infantilizing abdication of personal responsibility.



Stuff like this was circulating in the mid-late aughts, which at least has to be the origin story of how it turned out like it did and transformed into whatever out-of-control beast it is today.

It was around when "rape culture" was the buzz word du jour.


This pisses me off. How can a man consent when he is drunk but a woman cannot? I am female and this is ridiculous. Double standard.

A lot of statues are predicated on penetration.
https://jaapl.org/content/early/2022/12/02/JAAPL.220032-21/tab-figures-data
(look at Appendix A)



A few statutes ? Welp case closed throw the 7 in jail .
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Throwout said:

Ryan the Temp said:

A lot of statues are predicated on penetration.
https://jaapl.org/content/early/2022/12/02/JAAPL.220032-21/tab-figures-data
(look at Appendix A)

Who's penetrating a statue?

In Soviet Russia, statue penetrates you.
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Throwout said:

Ryan the Temp said:

A lot of statues are predicated on penetration.
https://jaapl.org/content/early/2022/12/02/JAAPL.220032-21/tab-figures-data
(look at Appendix A)

Who's penetrating a statue?

We listen and we don't judge!
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zgolfz85 said:

samurai_science said:

zgolfz85 said:

BadMoonRisin said:

Ingalls is now saying he was sodomized while he was unconscious by Jane Hoe. Good lord

lol

that seems like something that can only damage his case and hurt his credibility


No it actually doesn't. She should be charged

I'm not disagreeing with you on all the other stuff, but if you think this new claim doesn't make him look silly and make the public at large do a massive wtf when reading that, then I guess we live on different planets. She sodomized you? cmon bro. Just stick to your initial statements....no need to go cartoonish about it

I'm also not disagreeing that she should be charged. It certainly sounds like she continued sexual acts with at least one incapacitated guy, maybe two. But...sodomy? with what...a strap-on? her fingers? a dildo?

In New York, the definition of sodomy includes oral sex. She conceivably could have slurped while he was passed out. That would be forcible sodomy.
 
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