The Cornell Seven

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BonfireNerd04
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ICYMI, a district attorney in New York state is reopening the investigation of an alleged gang rape committed by Cornell University students two years ago, after the alleged victim filed a civil lawsuit against the university for negligence and failing to properly address sexual violence.

The woman involved, who has chosen to remain anonymous, admits to have voluntarily taken drugs and alcohol at the time. She apparently has no corroborating witnesses and no photographic or DNA evidence of being raped, so her case is "take my word for it".

But that hasn't stopped feminists from whining about "rape culture" and demanding that these seven men get the death penalty, as if "innocent until proven guilty" isn't a thing.
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They did it to POTUS, going ONLY by a 40 year old 'accusation'.
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Getting put on the house isn't a crime, just because you regret it the next day.
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pdc093 said:

They did it to POTUS, going ONLY by a 40 year old 'accusation'.



Plus or minus 40 years - she can't really recall
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Duke Lacrosse 2.0
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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TexasAGGIEinAR said:

Getting put on the house isn't a crime, just because you regret it the next day.


Never heard this wording, and I guess I'm glad.
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Rapier108 said:

Duke Lacrosse 2.0

Sort of. Her own statements are going to be a problem proving rape 1, 2, or 3. It's easy to see why this case wasn't originally prosecuted. But that doesn't mean the boys involved have clean hands. And Cornell making them write essays about the incident? Come on now.
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HTownAg98 said:

Rapier108 said:

Duke Lacrosse 2.0

Sort of. Her own statements are going to be a problem proving rape 1, 2, or 3. It's easy to see why this case wasn't originally prosecuted. But that doesn't mean the boys involved have clean hands.

Which is why I'll wait until this all plays out, more information comes out, and other stuff our resident lawyers will be looking for, before I call the woman or the men liars.

I do wonder where the pressure came from to take this form of action. Unless the interwebs really are that powerful, a la Ed Sheeran and Macklemore.
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Anyone immediately taking a side on this is just hoping, one way or another.
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Anyone see the interview with Jake Tapper and the DA? Man, Tapper was really railing into him. I felt kind of bad for him.

This was a tragic story with plenty of outright dumbassery shown by all parties involved. Not sure it crosses the line of illegal behavior though, at least not yet. Maybe some new details will come out later.
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The accuser has apparently changed her story significantly from when it was first reported.
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"This wasn't investigated at all!" -Her lawyer

"Yeah, because she said she consented and they stopped when she said she didn't. That's literally the definition of not rape." -DA

"Reeeeeeeeee!!!!!" -Feminists
HTownAg98
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1939 said:

The accuser has apparently changed her story significantly from when it was first reported.

And that's going to be a problem.
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Is "believe all women" even a thing anymore?

Liberals/Leftists are so whacked right now who knows what will happen. Everything appears to be upside down.
I don't think you know me.

ETA: Proud member of Billy's cesspool.
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Woman gets drunk and does drugs and has "relations" with multiple men. She feels regret and shame later (as she should). She proceeds to press charges and sue.

This is our liberal democracy society
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BonfireNerd04 said:

ICYMI, a district attorney in New York state is reopening the investigation of an alleged gang rape committed by Cornell University students two years ago, after the alleged victim filed a civil lawsuit against the university for negligence and failing to properly address sexual violence.

The woman involved, who has chosen to remain anonymous, admits to have voluntarily taken drugs and alcohol at the time. She apparently has no corroborating witnesses and no photographic or DNA evidence of being raped, so her case is "take my word for it".

But that hasn't stopped feminists from whining about "rape culture" and demanding that these seven men get the death penalty, as if "innocent until proven guilty" isn't a thing.


Apparently a woman can't do anything, up to and including murdering her own children, that will satiate liberal women from believing they're perpetual victims.
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ts5641 said:

BonfireNerd04 said:

ICYMI, a district attorney in New York state is reopening the investigation of an alleged gang rape committed by Cornell University students two years ago, after the alleged victim filed a civil lawsuit against the university for negligence and failing to properly address sexual violence.

The woman involved, who has chosen to remain anonymous, admits to have voluntarily taken drugs and alcohol at the time. She apparently has no corroborating witnesses and no photographic or DNA evidence of being raped, so her case is "take my word for it".

But that hasn't stopped feminists from whining about "rape culture" and demanding that these seven men get the death penalty, as if "innocent until proven guilty" isn't a thing.


Apparently a woman can't do anything, up to and including murdering her own children, that will satiate liberal women from believing they're perpetual victims.



Thank you, Gloria Steinem
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HTownAg98 said:

1939 said:

The accuser has apparently changed her story significantly from when it was first reported.

And that's going to be a problem.

As I see it, her testimony immediately after the event should trump any new accusations she thinks of two years later.

She can file a civil suit with whatever she wants to throw against the wall. But the DA should have stayed away and just stood by his earlier finding not to prosecute. It's not like she discovered new evidence two years after the event.
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I've heard of slow decision making, but waiting two years to figure out ...oh it was rape...takes the cake
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Rapier108 said:

Duke Lacrosse 2.0


Couple of these guys parents were clients of ours. Kids got paid. Not enough for what they went through, but they got paid.
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I wonder if True Love Waits and similar initiatives have started using case studies like these in their materials to convince youth to stay abstinent til marriage.
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Really?

Didn't E Jean Carrol take something like 30 years and NY state laws needing to be changed, coincidentally, in order to claim that Trump "raped" her?
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Intersectionality is a cultural battle to see who can be held least accountable for the consequences of their actions. That is really what it is.

It is pathetic and destructive.
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CrackerJackAg said:

Rapier108 said:

Duke Lacrosse 2.0


Couple of these guys parents were clients of ours. Kids got paid. Not enough for what they went through, but they got paid.

moral of the story. Do not mess around with no skanks.
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doubledog said:

CrackerJackAg said:

Rapier108 said:

Duke Lacrosse 2.0


Couple of these guys parents were clients of ours. Kids got paid. Not enough for what they went through, but they got paid.

moral of the story. Do not mess around with no skanks.


Yeah….. gross.
fc2112
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Seriously - there were some times at A&M and Virginia Tech when i was with a very drunk girl - and there's no way I could imagine I would have done anything with her. The thought of it just makes my skin crawl.

No doubt these guys behavior was loathsome. But suddenly discovering new facts two years after the event? C'mon...
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Jugstore Cowboy said:

TexasAGGIEinAR said:

Getting put on the house isn't a crime, just because you regret it the next day.


Never heard this wording, and I guess I'm glad.

Us Mississippi Delta folks have a very lengthy book of slang terms. This is a good'n.
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Did she get pregnant after the rape and then strangle those kids a few years later. If so we know who is at fault.
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fc2112 said:

Seriously - there were some times at A&M and Virginia Tech when i was with a very drunk girl - and there's no way I could imagine I would have done anything with her. The thought of it just makes my skin crawl.

No doubt these guys behavior was loathsome. But suddenly discovering new facts two years after the event? C'mon...

Yep, HUGE difference between had a few drinks and looking to have some fun, and sloppy drunk and not even fully in control.
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Hardcore Greg said:

fc2112 said:

Seriously - there were some times at A&M and Virginia Tech when i was with a very drunk girl - and there's no way I could imagine I would have done anything with her. The thought of it just makes my skin crawl.

No doubt these guys behavior was loathsome. But suddenly discovering new facts two years after the event? C'mon...

Yep, HUGE difference between had a few drinks and looking to have some fun, and sloppy drunk and not even fully in control.


I mean it sounds like the dudes were drunk too. So did she also rape them?

The double standard here is ridiculous.

Also once again Obama and his title IX kangaroo courts regarding on campus sexual assaults rears its ugly head again
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tylercsbn9 said:

Also once again Obama and his title IX kangaroo courts regarding on campus sexual assaults rears its ugly head again

Universities should not be allowed to do the criminal courts' job. Period.
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Hardcore Greg said:

fc2112 said:

Seriously - there were some times at A&M and Virginia Tech when i was with a very drunk girl - and there's no way I could imagine I would have done anything with her. The thought of it just makes my skin crawl.

No doubt these guys behavior was loathsome. But suddenly discovering new facts two years after the event? C'mon...

Yep, HUGE difference between had a few drinks and looking to have some fun, and sloppy drunk and not even fully in control.


Taking advantage ofvsomeone who is "Sloppy drunk drunk and not even fully in control" probably crosses the line into criminal behavior though.

Not saying that is what happened here. The girl certainly made some very bad choices that night that put her in a bad spot. No, not victim blaming either.

And the dudes were vile too...who would send an Instagram post in the middle of the night stating "Free ***** in room 1234"? Disgusting behavior definitely, especially the FIVE dudes that responded and proceeded to have sex with her after the first two dudes did.

Plenty of lessons to be learned.
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tylercsbn9 said:

I mean it sounds like the dudes were drunk too. So did she also rape them?

If you ever want to really spin up a bunch of feminists, suggest a woman can rape a man.

Their heads split open and wild animals come running out.
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tylercsbn9 said:

Hardcore Greg said:

fc2112 said:

Seriously - there were some times at A&M and Virginia Tech when i was with a very drunk girl - and there's no way I could imagine I would have done anything with her. The thought of it just makes my skin crawl.

No doubt these guys behavior was loathsome. But suddenly discovering new facts two years after the event? C'mon...

Yep, HUGE difference between had a few drinks and looking to have some fun, and sloppy drunk and not even fully in control.


I mean it sounds like the dudes were drunk too. So did she also rape them?

The double standard here is ridiculous.

Also once again Obama and his title IX kangaroo courts regarding on campus sexual assaults rears its ugly head again

I think it's disgusting to engage in group sex with a girl TBH. Or to take turns on her. Completely depraved and degenerate behavior, drunk or not.

But my point was just that the level of "drunk" does matter to me in cases like this. I remember me and a buddy having to baby sit a sh*tfaced girl one night back at A&M. She remembered almost nothing the next day and would have been pretty disturbed if we had told her how she was acting, what she was saying, that she vomited, that the just dropped her undies to pee in a somewhat public area.

Some perverts would see someone like that as a sexual target, an opportunity. Not at all saying that is what happened with these dudes, just that it happens. Best to not hook up with wasted girls that you don't know.

Guys getting too drunk and getting raped? LOL come on
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fc2112 said:

tylercsbn9 said:

I mean it sounds like the dudes were drunk too. So did she also rape them?

If you ever want to really spin up a bunch of feminists, suggest a woman can rape a man.

Their heads split open and wild animals come running out.

There have been billions of people in existence, so I am not saying it has never happened, but a man getting raped by a woman is a hilarious concept. Funny to imagine. If it does happen, it's such a low rate of occurrence that it's statistically insignificant.

Statutory rape is a different story.
 
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