JWinTX said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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Now this is what I expected from a presidental assignation attempt this kind of manifesto. Not the Crooks kid who was going to do it and leave behind nothing. Tin foil hat goes on and realizes Butler was a government op and golf course probably was as well.

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I think the golf course thing was most likely a guy who was tipped on where Trump would be at what time. The kid in Butler was a plant. He was dead before he even fired a shot, just had no idea. The folks behind that got him there, had him attempt, then killed him and cleaned it up ASAP. That was almost assuredly a CIA attempt.

But that's how inept out government has become. 60 years ago, they pulled off the greatest assassination in modern times and never had to get caught. Now, they cannot even kill a guy right in from them with nothing in between a rifle and a podium.

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Rapier108 said:

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Ghost of Bisbee said:

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Strange.

White House Correspondents Dinner Shooter Cole Allen had an ABC news special in 2017!?pic.twitter.com/3G4qTCWdl3

— Owen Shroyer (@OwenShroyer1776) April 26, 2026

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Why?

Story about a guy who was developing an invention that could be very useful.

Edit: Because clearly I suck at typing/spelling tonight.

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JJxvi said:

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This incident makes it seem like it would be a good idea for national security to have a ballroom at a secure location with advanced security features and where like, a would-be assassin hotel guest thats already in the building, can't crash the party or something like that.

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Cheetah01 said:

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You seem to find a lot of this to be funny. What is wrong with the Left? Some introspection would be warranted.

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pagerman @ work said:

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JJxvi said:

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This incident makes it seem like it would be a good idea for national security to have a ballroom at a secure location with advanced security features and where like, a would-be assassin hotel guest thats already in the building, can't crash the party or something like that.

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So the president (of any ilk) should be holed up in a fortress, hermetically sealed from any threat or danger?

Maybe we should add a moat, populated with alligators, or maybe sharks with lasers, and sniper towers to take out any potential threat, like anyone that doesn't like him, or dares utter statements in opposition to His will?

The president (any president) has to go out in public. You take reasonable precautions for security that balances the need to keep the president safe with the requirements of a free society and then you do the best you can, which it seems like is what happened at this event. Security stopped this person from getting anywhere near the president. Mission accomplished.

If the definition of a "secure" event is one that is so locked down that no one would even consider attempting anything, then you are living in a fantasy world with a police state fetish.

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TexasAggie73 said:

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pagerman @ work said:

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JJxvi said:

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This incident makes it seem like it would be a good idea for national security to have a ballroom at a secure location with advanced security features and where like, a would-be assassin hotel guest thats already in the building, can't crash the party or something like that.

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So the president (of any ilk) should be holed up in a fortress, hermetically sealed from any threat or danger?

Maybe we should add a moat, populated with alligators, or maybe sharks with lasers, and sniper towers to take out any potential threat, like anyone that doesn't like him, or dares utter statements in opposition to His will?

The president (any president) has to go out in public. You take reasonable precautions for security that balances the need to keep the president safe with the requirements of a free society and then you do the best you can, which it seems like is what happened at this event. Security stopped this person from getting anywhere near the president. Mission accomplished.

If the definition of a "secure" event is one that is so locked down that no one would even consider attempting anything, then you are living in a fantasy world with a police state fetish.

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Next thing he will want is a 18 hole golf course in the White House for security, not one of those simulated ones.

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nortex97 said:

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'Both sides.'

There it is. We know why he tried to do this, again. He wrote a manifesto even, to make sure there was no confusion. His politics are not a mystery, and no, his christian faith isn't what drove him, either.

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95LawAg said:

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nortex97 said:

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'Both sides.'

There it is. We know why he tried to do this, again. He wrote a manifesto even, to make sure there was no confusion. His politics are not a mystery, and no, his christian faith isn't what drove him, either.

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His manifesto would indicate otherwise.

But, regardless, it wasn't rational Christian beliefs or rational political beliefs, if that's your position. Whether it was delusional thinking, lack of impulse control (sometimes due to damage to or abnormalities in the prefrontal cortex), or some combination thereof, rational, mentally healthy people don't act this way. He didn't do this because he is a liberal or conservative. He did it because he's mentally ill.

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backintexas2013 said:

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Objection. Facts not in evidence. There is nothing saying he is mentally ill.

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oh no said:

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progressivist activist marxists poison the masses with hyperbolic propagandist lies and intentionally fill our mentally ill population with fantasies about murder and death not only to politicians but to anyone who is against socialism or who wants smaller government and lower taxes. then the progressivists can just say, look - he was just mentally ill and construe biased data to say something like "both sides".

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95LawAg said:

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Yes. If you're looking at the target in an analysis of whether the shooter is mentally ill, you might be looking at the wrong party.

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95LawAg said:

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Yes. If you're looking at the target in an analysis of whether the shooter is mentally ill, you might be looking at the wrong party.

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95LawAg said:

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oh no said:

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progressivist activist marxists poison the masses with hyperbolic propagandist lies and intentionally fill our mentally ill population with fantasies about murder and death not only to politicians but to anyone who is against socialism or who wants smaller government and lower taxes. then the progressivists can just say, look - he was just mentally ill and construe biased data to say something like "both sides".

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If it is the media, ir some other third party's fault, why aren't all of us motivated to commit murder?

Or is it, perhaps, that some are inclined to being irrationally influenced for some reason?

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95LawAg said:

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oh no said:

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progressivist activist marxists poison the masses with hyperbolic propagandist lies and intentionally fill our mentally ill population with fantasies about murder and death not only to politicians but to anyone who is against socialism or who wants smaller government and lower taxes. then the progressivists can just say, look - he was just mentally ill and construe biased data to say something like "both sides".

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If it is the media, ir some other third party's fault, why aren't all of us motivated to commit murder?

Or is it, perhaps, that some are inclined to being irrationally influenced for some reason?

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flown-the-coop said:

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95LawAg said:

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oh no said:

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progressivist activist marxists poison the masses with hyperbolic propagandist lies and intentionally fill our mentally ill population with fantasies about murder and death not only to politicians but to anyone who is against socialism or who wants smaller government and lower taxes. then the progressivists can just say, look - he was just mentally ill and construe biased data to say something like "both sides".

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If it is the media, ir some other third party's fault, why aren't all of us motivated to commit murder?

Or is it, perhaps, that some are inclined to being irrationally influenced for some reason?

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Being of weak mind =/= mental illness. As backintexas2013, being stupid is not a mental illness. Hell, being evil is not a mental illness.

If you kid beats up another on the school bus, we are to excuse it as mental illness and treat with medicine? Another bold strategy, that led to an unfortunate reality that a pill doesn't fix lack or morals, ethics and a sense of personal responsibility. All things the libs have trashed with ever increasing fervor.

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