So, Trump is blocking energy created by windmills which can't do it profitably without large government subsidies. Good Trump

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from hundreds of wind and solar projects already in progress.

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More than 60 large wind and solar farms under development on federal lands, such as Jackalope Wind, are being stymied. But the administration is also holding up hundreds of wind and solar projects on private land that require federal consultations. Many projects are facing potentially fatal delays, according to interviews with more than a dozen energy companies, industry groups and analysts.

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The electricity apocalypse because of AI is arriving soon. We need all the power we can get. But Trump is blocking this kind of power generation because he has it in his mind that he gets to pick the winners and losers. And he is picking coal.

So when you are gaping at your power bill. And the democrats control the house/Senate/White House, just remember that was one of the reasons.

Instead of unleashing American ingenuity, Trump is holding it back.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/04/climate/wind-solar-projects.html

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How exactly is he 'picking coal'? The coal power plant that I am in charge of, is slated to close Dec 31 2028 and if the rope smoking governor of Colorado had his way, we would shut down today. Trump has done nothing to change the future of my facility and dozens like it across the nation So please, tell me how he is picking coal.

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Hello 911? I'd like to report a murder...

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And I still have not gotten a response on how all this is picking coal or giving it favor. Coal power plants will be closing at a record pace starting in about 18 months.

It sounds like your friend survived the restructuring and all of that business. The Golden Pass deal bankrupted Zachary, so I was just curious if it is the same energy division that will be doing the small reactor builds or if those were completely different sides of a big company.

yes he survived all of that stuff, not sure what division hes in to be honest

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Just helping other people read this to understand that MAGA is very happy to block private energy projects on private land and seeks to destroy the solar and wind energy industries. Literally destroy if they can, anyway possible.

I don't intend to convince anyone in MAGA. I'm helping regular people see the truth.

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Don't those "private energy projects on private land" depend heavily on taxpayer subsidies and tax incentives to see development, construction and maintenance? So maybe not quite as "private" as you and the NYT propaganda mill are representing? So maybe you're not really helping regular people see the truth...

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The issue here is not incentives. The issue is using federal regulations/approvals to shut down all wind and solar projects that are PRIVATELY FUNDED on PRIVATE LAND.

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So?

Democrats do the same thing. In reality its not overtly political, except when required reviews, permitting, etc. are simply bypassed because the party in charge wants the project(s) done regardless (which both parties also do). This is basically normal government red tape.

So stop complaining so much about government oversight when that's pretty much what leftists have always voted for.

Except that Trump ran on decreasing government regulation.

But in this case he arbitrarily increased it.

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Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.

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You're mostly right about the need for gas/nuclear/coal but things are changing somewhat with power storage. Right now 75% of electricity in Texas is being generated by wind and solar. Storage has more capacity than coal.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

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Natural gas is running at ~10% of the its capacity right now.

We were forced to build a ton of quick start gas plants because of 2021.

The battery storage is to help prevent grid collapse like we saw in 2021 when several plants tipped offline causing a cascade of failures when the power frequency rapidly dropped. Power storage can instantly respond to prevent a similar failure.

Wind and solar are simply not reliable baseload. Bring in a good cold front and one or the other, or both, will be running at almost 0% and we have to then bring all the gas plants online.

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This person knows

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from hundreds of wind and solar projects already in progress.

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More than 60 large wind and solar farms under development on federal lands, such as Jackalope Wind, are being stymied. But the administration is also holding up hundreds of wind and solar projects on private land that require federal consultations. Many projects are facing potentially fatal delays, according to interviews with more than a dozen energy companies, industry groups and analysts.

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The electricity apocalypse because of AI is arriving soon. We need all the power we can get. But Trump is blocking this kind of power generation because he has it in his mind that he gets to pick the winners and losers. And he is picking coal.

So when you are gaping at your power bill. And the democrats control the house/Senate/White House, just remember that was one of the reasons.

Instead of unleashing American ingenuity, Trump is holding it back.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/04/climate/wind-solar-projects.html

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Never disappoints, AOC intellect on display.

OP is pro green blight and for limited, unreliable power. Maybe we can get those CO2 levels below 200 ppm…….

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Except that Trump ran on decreasing government regulation.

But in this case he arbitrarily increased it.

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If you give reasons it's not "arbitrary".

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The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.

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This is actually semi-false. Datacenter load is widely inconsistent depending on when it is learning. Within cycles (fractions of a second), it will swing 5-40 megawatts. That kind of swing will absolutely damage the turbine or a fossil fuel or nuclear generator.

The only options to answer the unique profile of datacenter load is BESS (battery storage) or e-statcom.

But you're right, the "base" power must come from a traditional, reliable generator.

How do you not know that without Government grants and subsidies, wind turbines cost more money than the electricity they generate?

ERCOT #TexasGrid Sunday Evening Update: Renewable outages spike as #naturalgas system keeps Texans safe and warm

Because I know #wind and #solar advocates and their media cheerleaders will misreport this as a matter of course, I will focus on the orange line on the "Generation… pic.twitter.com/e152AoFKsQ

— ⚡️David Blackmon⚡️ (@EnergyAbsurdity) January 26, 2026

That line shows the rapid spike in wind and solar outages that took place as the winter storm blew into Texas on January 23/24. The light blue line above it shows dispatchable outages, which have remained static and actually fallen slightly during the course of the storm.

As you can see from the right-hand chart, gas remains the workhorse keeping Texans safe and warm, providing a whopping 65% of total generation on the grid as of 6:00 p.m. CT Sunday. Gas, #coal, and #nuclear combined account for a total of 86.4%.

But solar has failed miserably, providing almost no generation on Saturday and pitching in ~10% or so for several hours once the cloud cover began to clear on Sunday. Power storage, the darling of the legacy media outlets, has been a non-factor throughout.

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One fourth (i.e. 25%) of all electricity in Texas CURRENTLY comes from wind.

Just think about shutting all of that down everywhere across the country.

https://www.eia.gov/states/TX/analysis

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Now you think he's shutting down old fields, not just being careful about new ones?

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Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.

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You're mostly right about the need for gas/nuclear/coal but things are changing somewhat with power storage. Right now 75% of electricity in Texas is being generated by wind and solar. Storage has more capacity than coal.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

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Does a pile of coal go bad? Seems like it would always retain its energy until burned.

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Except that Trump ran on decreasing government regulation.

But in this case he arbitrarily increased it.

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Are you for more or less government regulation?

The one I work at is switching to solar and natural gas. We don't have an official close date but we are thinking by 2030.

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Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.

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Big Government "conservatism". You have not answered why the government is blocking private projects from private companies on private land.

There aren't many actual conservatives left.

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How many of those "private projects" are reliant on federal grants?

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Except that Trump ran on decreasing government regulation.

But in this case he arbitrarily increased it.

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Explain exactly what new regulation he implemented or increased?

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GAC06 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.

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You're mostly right about the need for gas/nuclear/coal but things are changing somewhat with power storage. Right now 75% of electricity in Texas is being generated by wind and solar. Storage has more capacity than coal.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

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Does a pile of coal go bad? Seems like it would always retain its energy until burned.

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Energy storage (batteries) have more output capacity in Texas than coal powered plants, and growing.

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GAC06 said:

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Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.

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You're mostly right about the need for gas/nuclear/coal but things are changing somewhat with power storage. Right now 75% of electricity in Texas is being generated by wind and solar. Storage has more capacity than coal.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

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Does a pile of coal go bad? Seems like it would always retain its energy until burned.

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Energy storage (batteries) have more output capacity in Texas than coal powered plants, and growing.

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That was not the point.

A lump of coal in the ground has a certain number of BTUs of potential energy capacity. It will have that same potential 1000000 years from now.

Battery capacity degrades. Batteries go bad.

Neat?

Right this second 44.5% of the grid in Texas is coming from wind power.

I hope you guys are learning something from this thread. Seems that some of you feel like wind power is nothing and has no impact.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

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Right this second 44.5% of the grid in Texas is coming from wind power.

I hope you guys are learning something from this thread. Seems that some of you feel like wind power is nothing and has no impact.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

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Stop trolling. Wind and Solar hibernates when we really need it. 80 Degrees and windy and you are trolling about wind, we know your account adds nothing.




We had a fast rapid spike in wind and solar outages that took place as the winter storm blew into Texas on January 23/24. The light blue line above it shows dispatchable outages, which have remained static and actually fallen slightly during the course of the storm.

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Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.

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You're mostly right about the need for gas/nuclear/coal but things are changing somewhat with power storage. Right now 75% of electricity in Texas is being generated by wind and solar. Storage has more capacity than coal.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

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Does a pile of coal go bad? Seems like it would always retain its energy until burned.

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And who cares about what is happening right now, what matters is when we are in the middle of a freeze, in which case Natural Gas saves us. I already posted the data

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Right this second 44.5% of the grid in Texas is coming from wind power.

I hope you guys are learning something from this thread. Seems that some of you feel like wind power is nothing and has no impact.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

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Reminds me of this classic meme from Snowmegeddon.

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GAC06 said:

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Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.

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You're mostly right about the need for gas/nuclear/coal but things are changing somewhat with power storage. Right now 75% of electricity in Texas is being generated by wind and solar. Storage has more capacity than coal.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

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Does a pile of coal go bad? Seems like it would always retain its energy until burned.

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Energy storage (batteries) have more output capacity in Texas than coal powered plants, and growing.

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Batteries are great, no doubt, we are beginning to use them for voltage ride through issues in ERCOT. They are great for grid stability paired with a UPS for a facility. As a generation resource everyone must understand their limitations. The most common battery at utility scale has about a 2hr life during full discharge. This is a worst-case scenario as you can stretch them some under the right circumstances.

To make batteries cost effective you normally charge them at night. When there is no solar and the wind is intermittent, you are relying on base load coal, gas, and nuclear to recharge the batteries. There is no path forward without base loading resources. If the datacenter growth ERCOT is projecting materializes, then you would have a 20-30GW increase in capacity needs over the next 5-10 years. I do not think you will see that much load growth. There is a lot of speculation left in the DC load requests.

What is not escapable is the need for base load generation. To me the way forward is nuclear. It is not palatable to our friends on left, but the unicorn farts that are wind and solar are not going to solve this problem.

The glaring issue right now is a lack of transmission. You can build all of the generation you want, but without the transmission to serve load, you are in a bind. The generation glut will hit in 2028-2029.

About those batteries and wind power.

"Renewable" Energy they said...saves the environment they said....

Windmills suck. I get the whole private land thing but ugliest most non-green investment I've ever seen - kills birds, leaks fluids, cannot be recycled after end of life, and a market that is unsustainable without subsidies...

50%-70% of manufacturing occurs in China. Therefore I'll take natural gas and a little bit of greenhouse gas over MADE in CHINA any day. The way this word is today we need to be self sufficient yet the majority of both wind and solar is not manufactured here.

Done with my rant!

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GAC06 said:

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Rapier108 said:

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Another big swing and a miss by you.

Wind and Solar are not reliable base load power generation.

The only reliable sources to power data centers running 24/7 are either fossil fuels or nuclear.

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You're mostly right about the need for gas/nuclear/coal but things are changing somewhat with power storage. Right now 75% of electricity in Texas is being generated by wind and solar. Storage has more capacity than coal.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

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Does a pile of coal go bad? Seems like it would always retain its energy until burned.

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Energy storage (batteries) have more output capacity in Texas than coal powered plants, and growing.

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Batteries are great, no doubt, we are beginning to use them for voltage ride through issues in ERCOT. They are great for grid stability paired with a UPS for a facility. As a generation resource everyone must understand their limitations. The most common battery at utility scale has about a 2hr life during full discharge. This is a worst-case scenario as you can stretch them some under the right circumstances.

To make batteries cost effective you normally charge them at night. When there is no solar and the wind is intermittent, you are relying on base load coal, gas, and nuclear to recharge the batteries. There is no path to world without base loading resources. If the datacenter growth ERCOT is projecting materializes, then you would have a 20-30GW increase in capacity needs over the next 5-10 years. I do not think you will see that much load growth. There is a lot of speculation left in the DC load requests.

What is not escapable is the need for base load generation. To me the way forward is nuclear. It is not palatable to our friends on left, but the unicorn farts that are wind and solar are not going to solve this problem.

The glaring issue right now is a lack of transmission. You can build all of the generation you want, but without the transmission to serve load, you are in a bind. The generation glut will hit in 2028-2029.

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Also, the batteries, and the wind/solar are not renewable, they come from the earth, which means strip mining and making them. Its a farce

[You can make your point without being disrespectful to other posters -- Staff]

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One fourth (i.e. 25%) of all electricity in Texas CURRENTLY comes from wind.

Just think about shutting all of that down everywhere across the country.

https://www.eia.gov/states/TX/analysis

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Where does it say he's shutting down any operating plants?

ERCOT's website is not great anymore and giving LMP pricing, but maybe somebody that has access can show the overnight MWH prices for power. The financial story plays out there that wind is not survivable without subsidies and tax breaks.

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Right this second 44.5% of the grid in Texas is coming from wind power.

I hope you guys are learning something from this thread. Seems that some of you feel like wind power is nothing and has no impact.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

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Right this second, most of the Panhandle is under a high wind warning. It's like picking the worst day of Hurricane Harvey and saying Houston gets 5000 inches of rain a year

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shiftyandquick said:

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Right this second 44.5% of the grid in Texas is coming from wind power.

I hope you guys are learning something from this thread. Seems that some of you feel like wind power is nothing and has no impact.

https://www.ercot.com/gridmktinfo/dashboards

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Right this second, most of the Panhandle is under a high wind warning. It's like picking the worst day of Hurricane Harvey and saying Houston gets 5000 inches of rain a year

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"Wind power is a hoax. And there is no list."

44.5% now. Let's see what it is tomorrow.