***Iran [Military Action Thread]***[See Staff Note in OP]

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ErnestEndeavor
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Who in the world knows what's actually happening. So much of negotiation in that part of the world is public bluster while saying things different in private. It's all about saving face. Escalate to de-escalate is part of it too.

ErnestEndeavor
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Saying the Secret Service could not prep everything with such short notice.
Mathguy64
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ErnestEndeavor said:



Saying the Secret Service could not prep everything with such short notice.

Saying his son in law is expendable and the VPOTUS isn't.
ErnestEndeavor
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No I think it was more in line with the Secret Service saying they couldn't prepare in time for a VP level visit on such short notice. Vance gets way more security prep than the others and there are a lot of pre-planning checklists that have to get done on site and in region before he gets there. A lot of assets to move around.
ErnestEndeavor
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Who the heck knows.

Sumlins Pool Guy
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Iran now firmly in the "breakdown of elite consensus" phase of a social revolution it seems.

Govt and IRGC at complete odds. This could be a watershed moment
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ErnestEndeavor said:



Saying the Secret Service could not prep everything with such short notice.

Jared Kushner Is Jewish, could that present confrontational issues when dealing with radical Islamic extremists?
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
ErnestEndeavor
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Breaking news that the US has seized an Iranian-flagged cargo ship in the Gulf of Oman.
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Who?mikejones!
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ErnestEndeavor said:

Breaking news that the US has seized an Iranian-flagged cargo ship in the Gulf of Oman.


Well, gonna go fill up while diesel is below 5 bucks
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ErnestEndeavor said:

Breaking news that the US has seized an Iranian-flagged cargo ship in the Gulf of Oman.


Good. Keep ramping up the pressure prior to bombing the eff out of them next week. This face saving public BS needs to be stopped.

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LOL
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Ogre09
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Folks in the know, what does the USN ship fire at the Iranian cargo ship?
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Ogre09 said:

Folks in the know, what does the USN ship fire at the Iranian cargo ship?



My guess is some kind of deck gun
DCPD158
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Ogre09 said:

Folks in the know, what does the USN ship fire at the Iranian cargo ship?

Deck guns, .50s all the way down to Marine sidearms. Pretty much anything they want.
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agent-maroon
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You can "blow a hole in the engine room" with a .50 cal?

Edit - think I misread this to mean the deck guns were .50 cal
MouthBQ98
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Guns? 5 inch guns on most destroyers and cruisers. Some frigates and cutters have 76mm (3 inch) guns, or 57mm guns.

They also sometimes have 25mm bushmaster cannons mounted for interdicting smaller craft, and rail mounted .50 cal.
Deerdude
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I choose to believe they took out engine room with American sidearms
jbeaman88
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-inch/54-caliber_Mark_45_gun
SPF250
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That oughta work.
jbeaman88
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From Centcom (confirmed 5" gun)

https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-RELEASES/Press-Release-View/Article/4464037/us-forces-disable-vessel-attempting-to-enter-iranian-port-violate-blockade/
Blackbeard94
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I wonder if they could have just boarded it?

Now it dead in the water….

I am sure they know what they are doing. Military decision
Deerdude
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I guess it's not our boat, and not our problem
IslanderAg04
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Ogre09 said:

Folks in the know, what does the USN ship fire at the Iranian cargo ship?


https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXVB1urCsoE/?igsh=MWxlZWp6NHNwd3lxcQ==

Kagan shows the deck gun footage.
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Blackbeard94 said:

I wonder if they could have just boarded it?

Now it dead in the water….

I am sure they know what they are doing. Military decision

"Stop, turn around or you will be fired upon!" That's the warning. We mean it when we say stuff like that. After Operation Preying Mantis in the late 80s, should have known that. We didn't sink it...yet.
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Blackbeard94 said:

I wonder if they could have just boarded it?

Now it dead in the water….

I am sure they know what they are doing. Military decision

Probably because that Marine Expeditionary force that boarded it were not on the destroyer. They were probably a few hours away, so were in route when the destroyer disabled the ship.
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Couldn't they have just shot it in the propellor?
Bulldog73
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Apparently a 5" gun took out the engine room. Not so small arm.
GAC06
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Quote:

The video shows the USS Spruance firing warning shots from its 5-inch gun at the engine room of the ship


I don't think actually shooting a ship is considered a warning shot
Gaeilge
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If this is true, Iran just said goodbye to every bridge they have.

knj2417
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Any damage being reported? How effective would a drone swarm be against a US Military vessel?
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Sumlins Pool Guy said:

Iran now firmly in the "breakdown of elite consensus" phase of a social revolution it seems.

Govt and IRGC at complete odds. This could be a watershed moment
Somebody is going to drop a dime on their rivals.
ErnestEndeavor
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Nothing reported. Not the first time they have claimed this.
Texas12&0
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Bulldog73 said:



Apparently a 5" gun took out the engine room. Not so small arm.

Ceasefire? Ceasefire!??? We don't need no stinkin' ceasefire! Let's roll.
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