Raiderjay said:

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The Iranians are giving Baghdad Bob a run for his money.....

We have only used our old missiles, wait till we use the new ones!
We have killed hundreds of Americans and zionists!
We will shut down the straight of hormuz!

Now....We have super duper underwater missiles that can travel 100m/s!

NEW:

🇮🇷🇷🇺 Iranian IRGC commander warns they that they have 100 m/s underwater missiles and they are ready to use them

He claims 'only two countries have them — Russia, the manufacturer, and us' pic.twitter.com/pkc6wLdRqd

— Megatron (@Megatron_ron) March 11, 2026

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Amazing strategy, they waited until we killed everyone in leadership, related to someone in leadership, or who had served a kebab to their leadership; they waited until we blew up all their launchers and rained hellfire on their capital......NOW they're bringing out the A team.

There is a large scale drone attack on regime forces patrolling Tehran.

The Shah knew.

That's why he called for everyone to remain indoors. https://t.co/fo6rvLFNPh pic.twitter.com/sGSQSmFvbO

— 𝐍𝐢𝐨𝐡 𝐁𝐞𝐫𝐠 🇮🇷 ✡︎ (@NiohBerg) March 11, 2026

I would like to believe this is true, as it implies the discord/distrust between Trump-Pahlavi is over-stated.

Twisted Helix said:

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Yep, an utter failure if there is not regime change. It will happen again if that is the case.

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Seems that ALL OVER TWITTER right now

are reports supposedly from all over Teheran of armed drones targeting IRGC checkpoints and individual trucks and personnel.

definitely videos that seem to show a lot of AAA fire going into the sky from the Iranian cannon.

keep in mind the LAST thing any pro-Western Iranian leader would want is backing from the USA

seeing as how that was justification for getting rid of the Shah in the first place.

I'm curious at what point we start to hear about rebels engaging in skirmishes with remaining IRGC. Do any of these groups have access to arms or already have arms? So far, they've been basically told to stay inside, not protest, etc while the heavy bombing and targeted attacks from US/Israel are happening.

nortex97 said:

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There is a large scale drone attack on regime forces patrolling Tehran.

The Shah knew.

That's why he called for everyone to remain indoors. https://t.co/fo6rvLFNPh pic.twitter.com/sGSQSmFvbO

— 𝐍𝐢𝐨𝐡 𝐁𝐞𝐫𝐠 🇮🇷 ✡︎ (@NiohBerg) March 11, 2026

I would like to believe this is true, as it implies the discord/distrust between Trump-Pahlavi is over-stated.

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I think the issue between Pahlavi and Trump is the same issue he had with the elected leader of VZ that went into exile and received the Nobel prize. Trump is looking for somebody who has control and/or respect from a significant segment of the Iranian Army (not IRGC). Whoever takes over needs to be somebody who already has people he can trust on the ground in positions with weapons. Pahlavi may be a popular transitional choice for many Iranians, but he has no position of power in the country currently and can't confidently claim to control any faction of the armed forces.

The difference though is VZ didn't have an entire religious ideology that all of the IRGC are bought in on. I don't think you can expect anyone from the IRGC to come in and not continue with the religious crusade they are on.

cef88 said:

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The difference though is VZ didn't have an entire religious ideology that all of the IRGC are bought in on. I don't think you can expect anyone from the IRGC to come in and not continue with the religious crusade they are on.

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That was why I distinguished between the IRGC and the regular Army (Artesh). They are not the same entity. The IRGC is more powerful and better equipped, but the Army is less bought in on the ideology and does have weapons for conventional fighting.

If they had these missiles they would have fired them all at our Strike Groups when we started taking out their leadership like clockwork

4stringAg said:

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I'm curious at what point we start to hear about rebels engaging in skirmishes with remaining IRGC. Do any of these groups have access to arms or already have arms? So far, they've been basically told to stay inside, not protest, etc while the heavy bombing and targeted attacks from US/Israel are happening.

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the Kurds have weapons and were mostly based in Western Iraq

the Baluchis have some weapons in the southwest

other than that- we better hope Mossad and the CIA have spent the last 3 months creating ratlines of supplies leading to Teheran

because it is going to take a LOT of assault rifles to take over from the IRGC

hopefully Rezah Pahlavi has been helping CIA bring in weapons

akaggie05 said:

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Why the hell not? Wouldn't be nuking a city and killing tens or hundreds of thousands of people. Would be using them as a large scalpel to penetrate down and destroy their uranium stockpile. Big smoking hole in the ground in the middle of nowhere, minimal civilian casualties, and stockpile gone. Anyone who screams escalation in that scenario is looking for a reason to get offended.

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A nuclear explosion isn't going to penetrate deep into the earth. Most of the force is going to take the path of least resistances which up and radiating outwards through the air. It isn't going to be directed into a single point downwards. And when it does detonate, the energy that does focus downward is going to be spread out in a larger area. Most of the really big craters of nuclear test are the result of underground testing, not surface detonations.


What we do have are bunker busters like the GBU-57 MOP. It's able to penetrate into the ground not because of it's explosive power, but because it's so damn heavy and made of reinforced steel (almost 30k lbs). We drop it from really high up and gravity does the rest. Then once it's embedded into the ground it detonates.

There are several issues with it though. It can go about 60ft down through rock and concrete that has a compressive strength of 5,000psi. Some of Iran's bunkers are under rock and/or concrete that well exceeds 5,000psi. In some cases it's as high as 30,000psi.

That also assumes the material it is going through remains consistent and is fairly homogeneous. Underground rock formations, changes in concrete layout, etc can cause the bomb to veer off course. and travel further sideways than down. Try throwing a stick, staff, or toypedo pool toy into the water. Does it always go straight down or can it shoot sideways sometimes?

So options are to:

• hit a small ventilation shaft ala Star Wars and the Death star
• Destroy the entrance or exits to a cave/facility
• Land multiple bunker busters successively in the same place

That can be tough when you are dropping them from so high up and can only carry 1-2 per bomber.

My bad, I didn't notice the distinction you made

txags92 said:

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cef88 said:

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The difference though is VZ didn't have an entire religious ideology that all of the IRGC are bought in on. I don't think you can expect anyone from the IRGC to come in and not continue with the religious crusade they are on.

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That was why I distinguished between the IRGC and the regular Army (Artesh). They are not the same entity. The IRGC is more powerful and better equipped, but the Army is less bought in on the ideology and does have weapons for conventional fighting.

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The problem is groups like the Kurds separatist and Baluchans are who the regular army have been fighting all along in small skirmishes. If those groups are the insurgency, it's going to be a fight.

My hope would be that those groups could put aside their differences and fight against the common enemy of the IRGC together. But without strong leaders within each of those groups making the cooperation stick, how long such an alliance could remain stable is a big unknown.

IMO, if we do not destroy the IRGC and secure the 60% enriched uranium, we will not have destroyed the Iranian nuclear bomb program; which was a stated objective. Iran could acquire more centrifuges to get the U to 90% in short order. Do we want to constantly monitor that and have to strike again? Finish the job NOW!

The tollahs cannot maintain power without the IRGC. Somehow draw them out and annihilate them.

MagnumLoad said:

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IMO, if we do not destroy the IRGC and secure the 60% enriched uranium, we will not have destroyed the Iranian nuclear bomb program; which was a stated objective. Iran could acquire more centrifuges to get the U to 90% in short order. Do we want to constantly monitor that and have to strike again? Finish the job NOW!

The tollahs cannot maintain power without the IRGC. Somehow draw them out and annihilate them.

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if reports about the enriched uranium being out of reach from aerial strikes are true, can this realistically be accomplished without a boots-on-ground operation?

If we know that Iran is going to build a nuclear bomb with the enriched uranium it has, is this all not just a countdown to us using nuclear weapons on Iran?

Imagine if Iran had a nuclear weapon pointed at some place we actually would care about if it landed (so not Israel or DC).

Kyle Field is about to get nuked.

Why would you not use your superior nuclear weapons to stop that threat? Especially as it becomes obvious you cannot stop the threat with conventional weapons and they will nuke you the second they can, which you've all but guaranteed will happen eventually if you do not change regimes because you started a war against them.

This was the original purpose of nuclear weapons. Avoid a ground invasion, save american lives.

If iran won't surrender, and the rest of the world wont muster a ground force and do regime change, nuclear weapons are the only thing that has forced unconditional surrender in the modern era.

dial a nuke is on deck.

I guarantee once we figure out where it is there will be a specops mission to fly in, grab it and gtfo. Instead of snatching Maduro, it will be uranium.

one MEEN Ag said:

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If we know that Iran is going to build a nuclear bomb with the enriched uranium it has, is this all not just a countdown to us using nuclear weapons on Iran?

Imagine if Iran had a nuclear weapon pointed at some place we actually would care about if it landed (so not Israel or DC).

Kyle Field is about to get nuked.

Why would you not use your superior nuclear weapons to stop that threat? Especially as it becomes obvious you cannot stop the threat with conventional weapons and they will nuke you the second they can, which you've all but guaranteed will happen eventually if you do not change regimes because you started a war against them.

This was the original purpose of nuclear weapons. Avoid a ground invasion, save american lives.

If iran won't surrender, and the rest of the world wont muster a ground force and do regime change, nuclear weapons are the only thing that has forced unconditional surrender in the modern era.

dial a nuke is on deck.

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We are not nuking Iran.

WE ARE NOT NUKING IRAN

WE ARE NOT NUKING IRAN

How much is 600k of 60% uranium worth? Might be a pretty good target for a smash n grab for that reason alone.

Science Denier said:

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one MEEN Ag said:

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If we know that Iran is going to build a nuclear bomb with the enriched uranium it has, is this all not just a countdown to us using nuclear weapons on Iran?

Imagine if Iran had a nuclear weapon pointed at some place we actually would care about if it landed (so not Israel or DC).

Kyle Field is about to get nuked.

Why would you not use your superior nuclear weapons to stop that threat? Especially as it becomes obvious you cannot stop the threat with conventional weapons and they will nuke you the second they can, which you've all but guaranteed will happen eventually if you do not change regimes because you started a war against them.

This was the original purpose of nuclear weapons. Avoid a ground invasion, save american lives.

If iran won't surrender, and the rest of the world wont muster a ground force and do regime change, nuclear weapons are the only thing that has forced unconditional surrender in the modern era.

dial a nuke is on deck.

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We are not nuking Iran.

WE ARE NOT NUKING IRAN

WE ARE NOT NUKING IRAN

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I don't know... One Meen Ag makes a pretty compelling argument. /s

ChemAg15 said:

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Science Denier said:

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one MEEN Ag said:

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If we know that Iran is going to build a nuclear bomb with the enriched uranium it has, is this all not just a countdown to us using nuclear weapons on Iran?

Imagine if Iran had a nuclear weapon pointed at some place we actually would care about if it landed (so not Israel or DC).

Kyle Field is about to get nuked.

Why would you not use your superior nuclear weapons to stop that threat? Especially as it becomes obvious you cannot stop the threat with conventional weapons and they will nuke you the second they can, which you've all but guaranteed will happen eventually if you do not change regimes because you started a war against them.

This was the original purpose of nuclear weapons. Avoid a ground invasion, save american lives.

If iran won't surrender, and the rest of the world wont muster a ground force and do regime change, nuclear weapons are the only thing that has forced unconditional surrender in the modern era.

dial a nuke is on deck.

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We are not nuking Iran.

WE ARE NOT NUKING IRAN

WE ARE NOT NUKING IRAN

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I don't know... One Meen Ag makes a pretty compelling argument. /s

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It can be the smartest, most logical, best in the history of the world idea to nuke Iran.

But it's not happening.

carl spacklers hat said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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carl spacklers hat said:

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Nobody is dropping a nuke on Iran - that would be an escalation that would send things entirely off the rails.

For the military folks on here that know things, would protracted deployment of bunker-busters be able to get the job done. What I mean is, days of consecutive bombings to reach whatever depth they have the material stored.

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The problem is finding it. At this point, I don't think even the Israelis know where it is. That's why the initial post said we need boots on the ground or the widespread destruction of a nuke.

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So if the idea is to prohibit Iran from developing a nuke, why not just destroy the means of production? 400+ kilos of enriched uranium is useless if you don't have the facilities to develop it into a viable nuke. I reckon the targeted bombings are taking out all of the Iranian means of production for such.

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Because rebuilding those facilities to the point they can fully enrich the uranium is easier than refining that much uranium. We've destroyed their means, but they can simply keep rebuilding them. It will be much harder if they're forced to start from scratch again.

nai06 said:

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There are several issues with it though. It can go about 60ft down through rock and concrete that has a compressive strength of 5,000psi. Some of Iran's bunkers are under rock and/or concrete that well exceeds 5,000psi. In some cases it's as high as 30,000psi.

That also assumes the material it is going through remains consistent and is fairly homogeneous. Underground rock formations, changes in concrete layout, etc can cause the bomb to veer off course. and travel further sideways than down. Try throwing a stick, staff, or toypedo pool toy into the water. Does it always go straight down or can it shoot sideways sometimes?

So options are to:

• hit a small ventilation shaft ala Star Wars and the Death star
• Destroy the entrance or exits to a cave/facility
• Land multiple bunker busters successively in the same place

That can be tough when you are dropping them from so high up and can only carry 1-2 per bomber.

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And none of this information is truly accurate, regarding the our true capability to be able to take out these bunkers. There's no way the general public knows the exact depth these bunker busters can reach.

American Hardwood said:

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How much is 600k of 60% uranium worth? Might be a pretty good target for a smash n grab for that reason alone.

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They probably have it deep under a granite mountain, so not sure the smash and grab works. Plus, the stuff is sort of heavy. And dangerous.

Now, do Mossad and Delta go in at some point and load it up and remove it, very likely to happen this go round.

I think Trump may have thought Midnight Hammer would render some of those stored enrichments unavailable, but it seems as the intel prior to the start of all this is that they were never giving up their pursuit.

Crying about Bank Sepah, LOL.

Just so we're clear here: the "branch" was the data center of the Bank Sepah, the bank that grew out of the army's pension fund and handles the paychecks for the IRGC and Basij.

— infanta69 (@ansjdAJKSB) March 11, 2026

neil88 said:

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I don't think Flynn's first paragraph contradicts the second. The difference in targeting the Iranian Sepah banks and the Iranians targeting commercial financial centers in the region is that the first provides direct support to the Iranian military while the second is a non-combatant.

That's just me though.

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Ah that makes sense. Very good point. I wasn't clear on the distinction so thank you.

Reports of a military operation against the Islamic Republic by an unknown group in Tehran.... Several Basij and IRGC members reportedly killed.

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) March 11, 2026

Science Denier said:

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one MEEN Ag said:

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If we know that Iran is going to build a nuclear bomb with the enriched uranium it has, is this all not just a countdown to us using nuclear weapons on Iran?

Imagine if Iran had a nuclear weapon pointed at some place we actually would care about if it landed (so not Israel or DC).

Kyle Field is about to get nuked.

Why would you not use your superior nuclear weapons to stop that threat? Especially as it becomes obvious you cannot stop the threat with conventional weapons and they will nuke you the second they can, which you've all but guaranteed will happen eventually if you do not change regimes because you started a war against them.

This was the original purpose of nuclear weapons. Avoid a ground invasion, save american lives.

If iran won't surrender, and the rest of the world wont muster a ground force and do regime change, nuclear weapons are the only thing that has forced unconditional surrender in the modern era.

dial a nuke is on deck.

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We are not nuking Iran.

WE ARE NOT NUKING IRAN

WE ARE NOT NUKING IRAN

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Devils advocate here, why not?

-Iran, if given the ability, will nuke Israel or America. We've insured that Iran's dying breath will be to do something with their nuclear material.
-It is looking like regime change isn't happening
-why be so reserved with an enemy that will nuke us and us nuking them won't set off global mutual assured destruction?

Do I want to nuke iran? No
But nuking Iran isn't the same as nuking Russia or China or even North Korea, India or Pakistan.

Science Denier said:

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one MEEN Ag said:

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If we know that Iran is going to build a nuclear bomb with the enriched uranium it has, is this all not just a countdown to us using nuclear weapons on Iran?

Imagine if Iran had a nuclear weapon pointed at some place we actually would care about if it landed (so not Israel or DC).

Kyle Field is about to get nuked.

Why would you not use your superior nuclear weapons to stop that threat? Especially as it becomes obvious you cannot stop the threat with conventional weapons and they will nuke you the second they can, which you've all but guaranteed will happen eventually if you do not change regimes because you started a war against them.

This was the original purpose of nuclear weapons. Avoid a ground invasion, save american lives.

If iran won't surrender, and the rest of the world wont muster a ground force and do regime change, nuclear weapons are the only thing that has forced unconditional surrender in the modern era.

dial a nuke is on deck.

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We are not nuking Iran.

WE ARE NOT NUKING IRAN

WE ARE NOT NUKING IRAN

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*Yet

Science Denier said:

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one MEEN Ag said:

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If we know that Iran is going to build a nuclear bomb with the enriched uranium it has, is this all not just a countdown to us using nuclear weapons on Iran?

Imagine if Iran had a nuclear weapon pointed at some place we actually would care about if it landed (so not Israel or DC).

Kyle Field is about to get nuked.

Why would you not use your superior nuclear weapons to stop that threat? Especially as it becomes obvious you cannot stop the threat with conventional weapons and they will nuke you the second they can, which you've all but guaranteed will happen eventually if you do not change regimes because you started a war against them.

This was the original purpose of nuclear weapons. Avoid a ground invasion, save american lives.

If iran won't surrender, and the rest of the world wont muster a ground force and do regime change, nuclear weapons are the only thing that has forced unconditional surrender in the modern era.

dial a nuke is on deck.

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We are not nuking Iran.

WE ARE NOT NUKING IRAN

WE ARE NOT NUKING IRAN

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Dial a Nuke right down the vent shaft.

Why not?

It'll actually take out their weapon.
It will make the whole facility untouchable.
It'll be deep enough that it'll reduce fallout.
They won't retaliate with nukes because they cant
USA actually gets to avoid a ground invasion.

That nuclear material will be in the most secured, hardened vault. They'd rather collapse their walls and keep it in a pile of rubble that they can dig out over the course of months than let it be quickly taken away by a Delta Force team that needs to be in and out in a matter of hours. Use Delta's speed against them. Taking that facility would require a continual ground presence.

The Sun said:

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I guarantee once we figure out where it is there will be a specops mission to fly in, grab it and gtfo. Instead of snatching Maduro, it will be uranium.

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I believe most of their Uranium is stored as a gas (UF6), which is the first step to enrichment. If you can find it then it's simply a matter of rupturing or blowing up the tanks because the gas would just dissipate once it is out of storage.

We should also be hitting their centrifuges, which are large and complex and should be easier to find.

Science Denier said:

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one MEEN Ag said:

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If we know that Iran is going to build a nuclear bomb with the enriched uranium it has, is this all not just a countdown to us using nuclear weapons on Iran?

Imagine if Iran had a nuclear weapon pointed at some place we actually would care about if it landed (so not Israel or DC).

Kyle Field is about to get nuked.

Why would you not use your superior nuclear weapons to stop that threat? Especially as it becomes obvious you cannot stop the threat with conventional weapons and they will nuke you the second they can, which you've all but guaranteed will happen eventually if you do not change regimes because you started a war against them.

This was the original purpose of nuclear weapons. Avoid a ground invasion, save american lives.

If iran won't surrender, and the rest of the world wont muster a ground force and do regime change, nuclear weapons are the only thing that has forced unconditional surrender in the modern era.

dial a nuke is on deck.

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We are not nuking Iran.

WE ARE NOT NUKING IRAN

WE ARE NOT NUKING IRAN

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Why have nukes if we are not going to use them

Turn Iran into a parking lot and build a HEB/Bucee's

IF Iran has a nuclear device - it is very privative and huge. It's almost certainly a gun type weapon that looks a lot like the Trinity test article. It ain't goin' on no missile.

🚨BREAKING - MASSIVE NON-NUCLEAR EXPLOSION IN QOM, IRAN JUST NOW

Qom is Iran's clerical capital

Lots of speculation that the USA has used its 30,000lb GBU-57A/B Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP)

which has RARELY been used, and can penetrate 200 feet into the earth. pic.twitter.com/9IUnoX2PPD

— Tablesalt 🇨🇦🇺🇸 (@Tablesalt13) March 11, 2026

That's a big BOOM!