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Yes, it was an act of war. Therefore, they can justifiably respond proportionally. Good luck with that.

It's 100% wrong. Unless Congress declared War Trump had no right.

I've been a loyal and proud Trump supporter but I'm completely opposed to this action.

Well intentioned or not we can't openly depose other countries leaders, or at least we shouldn't.

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That being said, I'm against his trial. He should be a smoking hole in the ground. There is now a chance that he gets acquitted. We should have made sure that would have never been a possibility.

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Someone else posted that he has charges against him in Argentina so we could dump him there if he somehow got acquitted. Or just turn him back to the Venezuelan people and let them handle it Mussolini style.

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"Or just turn him back to the Venezuelan people and let them handle it Mussolini style."
If acquitted by a bat crap crazy jury, this may just happen. Might be in his best interest to plead guilty.

We clearly can, at the drop of a hat, so that's obviously not accurate.

Should we? Most countries, no. But the citizens are literally dancing in the streets from this. Seems like everyone except drug dealers win in this particular case.

Donroe Doctrine is infinity more appealing than infinity wars in sandboxes, murder mountains, and IED highways

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What is a war? Do you know what that is? Is this the 3 Hour War?

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This isn't over yet, Why do you think this is over?

Are you old enough to remember the mission accomplished banner W put up on an aircraft carrier?

Hint: The mission was decades away from being over

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Please stop with your crap. It's really embarrassing at this point.

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Maduro's regime is still in charge. How is this over yet?

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Really? And what is their response? I'm waiting for you to relay that bit of important information to us.

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It's still pretty early to know where this goes.

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Moving goalposts now. Ok….

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And you know there will be ZERO credit if this continues to go ideally

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Of course. Liberals…..well, they liberal.

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This is so lazy, it's like calling people who disagree with you a Nazi. I have stated on here multiple times I voted for Trump all 3 times. He literally ran on not doing what he is doing. Doesn't make me a liberal

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What is he doing? Because this isn't a war.

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If anything close to this was done to the US it would obviously be an act of war…what world do you guys live in?

And guess what, if a foreign nation came in and took Trump prisoner over night there would probably be a lot of people in the street cheering about it too…does that make it okay???

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False equivalency.
President Trump

• was elected Maduro was not
• does not deal drugs running a cartel Ppresident Trump does not

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Kidnapping a head of state is an act of war. Whether or not they were elected doesn't mean anything. If France abducted the king of England. That would be an act of war. Hell, Jefferson considered merely chopping down a flag staff at the US consulate a declaration of war.

The argument should be how this act of war was JUSTIFIED. Not pretend that it wasn't an act of war.

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So what are they gonna do? Attack us? Invade Florida? Not much of a war going on here, just sayin.

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They are going to do nothing. They got their asses kicked. I'm not disputing that. Nor am I disputing that it was justified.

I'm just disputing the notion that this was somehow not an act of war. Of course it was. So the hell what?

He used the same authority Obama use as well as Bush

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It's 100% wrong. Unless Congress declared War Trump had no right.

I've been a loyal and proud Trump supporter but I'm completely opposed to this action.

Well intentioned or not we can't openly depose other countries leaders, or at least we shouldn't.

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It wasn't an "act of war". Get your facts straight before you rush to false judgement.

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It's 100% wrong. Unless Congress declared War Trump had no right.

I've been a loyal and proud Trump supporter but I'm completely opposed to this action.

Well intentioned or not we can't openly depose other countries leaders, or at least we shouldn't.

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Sure we can. And we absolutely should when they are largely responsible for the deaths of many Americans. Now leaders of narco nations will think twice about looking the other way.

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It's 100% wrong. Unless Congress declared War Trump had no right.

I've been a loyal and proud Trump supporter but I'm completely opposed to this action.

Well intentioned or not we can't openly depose other countries leaders, or at least we shouldn't.

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You don't have to have Congress declare war to carry out an action like this.

For the record, they haven't declared war since WW2.

Then ask Congress to declare War! As a conservative we can't/shouldnt choose which parts of the Constitution we care about.

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It's 100% wrong. Unless Congress declared War Trump had no right.

I've been a loyal and proud Trump supporter but I'm completely opposed to this action.

Well intentioned or not we can't openly depose other countries leaders, or at least we shouldn't.

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It wasn't an "act of war". Get your facts straight before you rush to false judgement.

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Stop embarrassing yourselves by pretending this wasn't an act of war. It was. And it was justified.

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It's 100% wrong. Unless Congress declared War Trump had no right.

I've been a loyal and proud Trump supporter but I'm completely opposed to this action.

Well intentioned or not we can't openly depose other countries leaders, or at least we shouldn't.

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This American murdering POS was in no way a legitimate ruler and was nothing but a mafioso thug. He was taking orders from his communist overlords to flood our country with poison.

I pray that all like Maduro soon receive the same treatment ... They are hopefully on borrowed time and all sympathizers should be ridiculed and worse. Today is a great day and many more are to come. A zombie no longer runs our country. This is what world wide leadership and a force for good looks like.

Good Lord folks. He was not an elected head of state. He changed election results. He was dumping drugs iino the US. He stole US owned oil assets. He was was Kermit the Frog for China and Russia.

Some of you are such Karens.

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It's 100% wrong. Unless Congress declared War Trump had no right.

I've been a loyal and proud Trump supporter but I'm completely opposed to this action.

Well intentioned or not we can't openly depose other countries leaders, or at least we shouldn't.

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1-Maduro lost an election and kept power. He is not the recognized country leader
2-The DOJ has him and his wife charged with major crimes and the DOW was acting on their behalf.

You can have your opinion all day long, but in the end, Trump was using these facts above and the precedence set by multiple past US Presidents, to do what was done. So, your opinion is moot. Thanks for playing…

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Then ask Congress to declare War! As a conservative we can't/shouldnt choose which parts of the Constitution we care about.

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That's only necessary when requiring additional funding. The notion that the president needs to beg Congress to pass a formal law stating "we declare war on..." before a single shot is preposterous.

Handful of American troops sustained bullet and shrapnel wounds during last night’s operation in the Venezuelan capital of Caracas, but none are life-threatening, a source briefed on the matter told CNN.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) January 3, 2026

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Good Lord folks. He was not an elected head of state. He changed election results. He was dumping drugs iino the US. He stole US owned oil assets. He was was Kermit the Frog for China and Russia.

Some of you are such Karens.

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His election or lack thereof doesn't really matter.

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Can't wait to be "running another country." Isn't this exactly what Trumpers voted against?

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Wow Debbie Downers here. Let's celebrate the win. Or are you pro-socialist and upset he won something?

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Being against socialism doesn't mean you are pro launching an assault on socialist countries who have not posed a threat to us

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You guys are being ridiculous about this.

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How are we being ridiculous? We voted for a man who ran on no new wars. Now he's talking about Colombia and Cuba being next…where does it end exactly? Should we just run the whole hemisphere? Everyone is acting like this is over and it's just a one night thing, but this is far from over

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Yes

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Strongly word letter from Bernie:

My statement on President Trump’s actions in Venezuela. pic.twitter.com/AiHPASu3iO

— Sen. Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) January 3, 2026

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Coming from a true communist that has nothing but contempt for the Constitution. Bernie Sanders is a true believer in communism and as such follows the teachings of Saul Alinsky

• The fourth rule is: "Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules." You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.
• The most effective means are whatever will achieve the desired results.

Dear Mr. Sanders
Take your bull**** outrage and shove it where the sun doesn't shine.

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Then ask Congress to declare War! As a conservative we can't/shouldnt choose which parts of the Constitution we care about.

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We don't want to conquer Venezuela. This was a mission/op to apprehend a criminal responsible for human trafficking, drug trafficking, the deaths of thousands of Americans, sending his criminal gangs to sew unrest and chaos across our country, and theft among others. Please look into the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) for legal authority.

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It's 100% wrong. Unless Congress declared War Trump had no right.

I've been a loyal and proud Trump supporter but I'm completely opposed to this action.

Well intentioned or not we can't openly depose other countries leaders, or at least we shouldn't.

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I'm embarrassed to have graduated the same university as you if you graduated.

I did. Class of 03. I'm sorry my differing opinion on deposing a foreign leader got your panties in a wad.

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It's 100% wrong. Unless Congress declared War Trump had no right.

I've been a loyal and proud Trump supporter but I'm completely opposed to this action.

Well intentioned or not we can't openly depose other countries leaders, or at least we shouldn't.

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We make the rules for others. We don't have to play by those rules ourselves. There is no authority in this world that can stop that. And everyone else's gnashing of teeth is laughable.

Welcome to the real world.

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What is a war? Do you know what that is? Is this the 3 Hour War?

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This isn't over yet, Why do you think this is over?

Are you old enough to remember the mission accomplished banner W put up on an aircraft carrier?

Hint: The mission was decades away from being over

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Please stop with your crap. It's really embarrassing at this point.

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Maduro's regime is still in charge. How is this over yet?

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Really? And what is their response? I'm waiting for you to relay that bit of important information to us.

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It's still pretty early to know where this goes.

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Moving goalposts now. Ok….

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And you know there will be ZERO credit if this continues to go ideally

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Of course. Liberals…..well, they liberal.

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This is so lazy, it's like calling people who disagree with you a Nazi. I have stated on here multiple times I voted for Trump all 3 times. He literally ran on not doing what he is doing. Doesn't make me a liberal

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What is he doing? Because this isn't a war.

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If anything close to this was done to the US it would obviously be an act of war…what world do you guys live in?

And guess what, if a foreign nation came in and took Trump prisoner over night there would probably be a lot of people in the street cheering about it too…does that make it okay???

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False equivalency.
President Trump

• was elected Maduro was not
• does not deal drugs running a cartel Ppresident Trump does not

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Kidnapping a head of state is an act of war. Whether or not they were elected doesn't mean anything. If France abducted the king of England. That would be an act of war. Hell, Jefferson considered merely chopping down a flag staff at the US consulate a declaration of war.

The argument should be how this act of war was JUSTIFIED. Not pretend that it wasn't an act of war.

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Maduro was not kidnapped, he was arrested.

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Good Lord folks. He was not an elected head of state. He changed election results. He was dumping drugs iino the US. He stole US owned oil assets. He was was Kermit the Frog for China and Russia.

Some of you are such Karens.

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EOT. It's been really painful to listen to the same people make the same stupid arguments that they always make.

Here are the charges against Nicolas Maduro after US capture

• WASHINGTON Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro was indicted in New York on federal charges of narco-terrorism conspiracy, cocaine importation conspiracy and two illegal weapons counts based on allegations he helped ship tons of cocaine to the United States over a period of decades.
• The indictment accuses Maduro of trafficking cocaine during his 25-year career serving in public posts. He was charged along with his wife, a son and top members of his administration. The indictment also seeks to seize any belongings that resulted from the alleged criminal conspiracy.

I almost pissed myself when I saw this. Lmfao!

Saint Igla of Caracas, protector of nothing in particular. pic.twitter.com/MmpyYXsRgk

— Air Power (@RealAirPower1) January 3, 2026

I love these JD Vance videos … especially since he enjoys making fun of himself with them too. pic.twitter.com/Qct89LHpxN

— C-Reason🇺🇸 (@CreasonJana) January 3, 2026

Meanwhile, Pedro who was scheduled to captain the next drug-boat run attempt was seen making the sign of the cross and pointing to heaven, before dancing in the streets.

You have to know some dude has been sweating bullets somewhere down there.

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What is a war? Do you know what that is? Is this the 3 Hour War?

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This isn't over yet, Why do you think this is over?

Are you old enough to remember the mission accomplished banner W put up on an aircraft carrier?

Hint: The mission was decades away from being over

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Please stop with your crap. It's really embarrassing at this point.

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Maduro's regime is still in charge. How is this over yet?

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Really? And what is their response? I'm waiting for you to relay that bit of important information to us.

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It's still pretty early to know where this goes.

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Moving goalposts now. Ok….

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And you know there will be ZERO credit if this continues to go ideally

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Of course. Liberals…..well, they liberal.

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This is so lazy, it's like calling people who disagree with you a Nazi. I have stated on here multiple times I voted for Trump all 3 times. He literally ran on not doing what he is doing. Doesn't make me a liberal

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Please….just stop.

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It's 100% wrong. Unless Congress declared War Trump had no right.

I've been a loyal and proud Trump supporter but I'm completely opposed to this action.

Well intentioned or not we can't openly depose other countries leaders, or at least we shouldn't.

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I get what you are saying, but I think you are missing a lot of the other pieces of this story that you are willfully glossing over or are just ignoring to get this point across.

1) He was indicted for crimes against the United States as a leader of a cartel. In 2020. This means that this was presented in front of a panel and they thought it rose to the letter of law to be tried.

2) He is not the elected leader of his country. His country voted him out. He said no and the. Started jailing opposition.

3) He was given opportunities to turn himself in. Instead of doing that, he metaphorically went up to a country with the firepower of the entire 1985 Bears defense as a junior high level Quarterback and pissed in their Gatorade. And then bragged about doing that to the media and dared them to do something to him.

4) Trump labeled several cartels as terrorist organizations, which then fall under (you can correct me if I am wrong here) the war on terror that was sanctioned by Congress. I would also look up topics like the war on drugs that was popular in the 90s that I don't believe has been removed from the congressional books.

We do this all the time all over the world. We locate people that have done bad things and bring them back to the US to stand trial for the acts they committed against people of our country or to our country itself. In this case, we had an indicted individual (not elected leader of his country) that dared us to come and get him.

We did. He was labeled as a terrorist and was apprehended as such.

The fact we had to use the firepower we did was due to the defenses that he had surrounded himself with. It did not matter that he thought of himself as the leader of Venezuela. The US did not recognize him as such and saw him as another terrorist that needed to be dealt with.

The big difference here was that he was controlling the country's defense network and due to that, we had to disable that and anyone who thought they would need to protect him. The head of our executive branch said it was time to bring this casserole in and he was brought in.

Sometimes you have to show that you are willing to use the rod so that you don't have to continue to do so. If you are doing business with cartels, you are on notice.

If this one causes you concern, buckle up. If he has already acted in Venezuela, my guess he is already making plans for Cuba, Mexico and Columbia.

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What is a war? Do you know what that is? Is this the 3 Hour War?

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This isn't over yet, Why do you think this is over?

Are you old enough to remember the mission accomplished banner W put up on an aircraft carrier?

Hint: The mission was decades away from being over

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Please stop with your crap. It's really embarrassing at this point.

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Maduro's regime is still in charge. How is this over yet?

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Really? And what is their response? I'm waiting for you to relay that bit of important information to us.

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It's still pretty early to know where this goes.

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Moving goalposts now. Ok….

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And you know there will be ZERO credit if this continues to go ideally

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Of course. Liberals…..well, they liberal.

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This is so lazy, it's like calling people who disagree with you a Nazi. I have stated on here multiple times I voted for Trump all 3 times. He literally ran on not doing what he is doing. Doesn't make me a liberal

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What is he doing? Because this isn't a war.

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If anything close to this was done to the US it would obviously be an act of war…what world do you guys live in?

And guess what, if a foreign nation came in and took Trump prisoner over night there would probably be a lot of people in the street cheering about it too…does that make it okay???

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False equivalency.
President Trump

• was elected Maduro was not
• does not deal drugs running a cartel Ppresident Trump does not

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Kidnapping a head of state is an act of war. Whether or not they were elected doesn't mean anything. If France abducted the king of England. That would be an act of war. Hell, Jefferson considered merely chopping down a flag staff at the US consulate a declaration of war.

The argument should be how this act of war was JUSTIFIED. Not pretend that it wasn't an act of war.

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Maduro was not kidnapped, he was arrested.

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By what jurisdiction?

the same that got El Chapo