Looks like we may have gotten involved in Venezuela

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They already did lol
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Anti-taxxer said:

GAC06 said:

If someone seized Trump and took him outside the country would you think it's a war? You don't have to answer that.

I know who would be fighting for Trump. Who's fighting for Maduro?
Yeah, it takes two to tango. It seems to me to have a war, both sides have to be fighting. This was nothing more than a one-sided a** kicking.
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I'm not even saying Grok is right, but 72k and 110k are reasonably "close" imo. I know that's a big percentage difference, but it's safe to say on the order of 100k and not 1M, for example.
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Yes?
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Casual Cynic said:

I just think it's hilarious that after all of Maduro's bluster about raising 3 million men to fight for him, just about no one stood up for him when it came down to it.


But I'm sure they'll change their twitter/facebook profile to "stand with him"
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KentK93 said:

Strongly word letter from Bernie:




Bernie making noise? Must needs another house.
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deddog said:

KentK93 said:

Strongly word letter from Bernie:




Bernie making noise? Must needs another house.

Communist need to support other communist…
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Horn_in_Aggieland said:

Amazing that some media outlets kept their mouth shut.




Leak the leakers. This is treason.
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Ag87H2O said:

GAC06 said:

If someone seized Trump and took him outside the country would you think it's a war? You don't have to answer that.

Trump is the dually elected leader of his country. Maduro was not. He is a narco terrorist that ignored an election and took over a country by force, against the will of its citizens.

Your hypothetical a false equivalancy and you know it.

Try duly next time.
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aTmAg said:

techno-ag said:

aTmAg said:

This was absolutely an act of war. And it was a GOOD thing. The only reason people are fighting this obvious claim is Trump idiotically ran on the "no new wars" promise. That was a dumb promise for him to make. It's like promising "no new natural disasters".

And even if Maduro was duly elected, it wouldn't matter. He could have 100% of the vote, but by actively working to kill millions of Americans, he deserved to die. If he had more support among his people, then it's likely that more Venezuelan's would have had to die for us to achieve the goal of protecting America. The fact that almost nobody supported him made our job easier and saved many Venzuelan lives.

That being said, I'm against his trial. He should be a smoking hole in the ground. There is now a chance that he gets acquitted. We should have made sure that would have never been a possibility.

Where did he say no new wars?

And this is hardly a war. There was a $50 million bounty on Maduro's head.





(And again.. I'm SUPPORT HIM HERE. Just stop with the "it's not an act of war" nonsense.)
Where are the occupying troops? I'm not seeing much in the way of warfare here. I saw an extraction. That's it.
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Love the community notes:
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GAC06 said:

aginlakeway said:

GAC06 said:

aginlakeway said:

GAC06 said:

I'm not even against it. I'm just not so indoctrinated into the Trump cult that I'll pretend he didn't just go to war.


So you support these actions? Great!


I think it could be a very good thing depending on how the aftermath works out. But it's still war.


So it is a war or an act of war?


And here we are. Attacking a country, bombing them and seizing their head of state is not a new war, it's merely an "act of war". But totally not war.

Shortest."War".Ev-er.
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Rossticus said:





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KentK93 said:

Love the community notes:



The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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Feeder Road said:

Unsurprisingly, the left is in full support of a dude that stole an election.

Someone famous once said,"Birds of a feather flock together."
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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Casual Cynic said:

I just think it's hilarious that after all of Maduro's bluster about raising 3 million men to fight for him, just about no one stood up for him when it came down to it.

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Any word on the US casualties?

Sorry if it's already been covered.

Googling is saying two, but no details.
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Dr. Mephisto said:

Rossticus said:




Tucker had done some great reports and raised some great questions in the public arena in the last 5 years.

He's also been massively wrong many times.

Sadly, he seems to have drifted a lot lately.

drifted or grifted? Maybe both?
ETA Never mind AtticusMatlock beat me by several pages.
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agent-maroon said:

Never said I disagreed with you because I don't. Just offering some hope for eventual justice if/when something stupid happens in SNYD.

Yeah.. I agree with that.




But I hate the "trialization" of foreign policy. It started with Nuernberg trials. We should have simply said, "we won.. you guys were especially a-holes" line them up against a wall and shot their asses. No dog and pony show attempting to justify it. They were genocidal a-holes. That justified it. That dog and pony show now means we have to have the same dog and pony show every time.

Meanwhile, our enemies don't give a RATS ASS about the Geneva conventions. They target civilians, set people on fire, engage in as much torture as they want and then WE get called war criminals because one of our soldiers takes a thumbs up picture next to a prisoner or dead body. Hell, the nukes that ENDED WW2 WOULD BE WAR CRIMES TODAY. Which is completely PREPOSTEROUS, since they undoubtedly SAVED LIVES.

There is a reason we haven't won a real war since WW2. We need to get out of those treaties ASAP.
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It's only "war" when the otherside fights back.
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I know everyone has been wondering what Dora the Explorer"s (Lina Hidalgo for those fortunate enough not to know her) take is.

She has spoken:

Quote:

On Behalf of Houston-Area Interests, Calling For A Prompt Transition to Democracy in Venezuela

Harris County has the fourth largest Venezuelan population in the U.S., and a majority Latin American population. Our energy industry, with obvious ties to Venezuela, is a major part of our economy, jobs, and the stability of energy prices nationally. I know that folks in Harris County are watching President Trump's actions regarding Venezuela this morning.

Actions to help a people topple an illegitimate and ruinous dictator can be a good thing, and many are rightly celebrating the removal of the top leader of a truly terrible autocratic regime. Not only could this morning's actions help improve the lives of Venezuelans, but on a numbers-and-cents basis, they could lead to better outcomes for our residents, our energy industry, and the nation. That said, Harris County residents and our industry only stand to gain from this morning's actions if they lead to stability in Venezuela. That is not only obvious, but it is what I am hearing from community and industry leaders.

A transition to democracy in Venezuela is our only hope for stability and for a true benefit to Americans and the American economy. A reconstitution of the Venezuelan oil industry is impossible without a reconstitution of the political system. And it is impossible for American forces to be that political system. As we have learned from intervening in other regions, only the legitimately elected Venezuelan leadership can engender a stable government and oil industry.

The president and Congress have the opportunity and responsibility to leverage this moment to negotiate the exit of the entire Maduro regime and usher in a prompt transition to democracy. The logical answer is the installation of the internationally-recognized President-elect, Edmundo Gonzlez Urrutia, along with the coalition around him, which is essentially led by Nobel Peace Prize recipient Maria Corina Machado.

What is to come can look like democratic, prosperous, and valuable U.S. ally Panama, or it can look like tumultuous Libya or Iraq. The prosperity that comes from the arrest of Maduro can be a temporary sugar high, or it can be a long-term cause for celebration for Venezuelans, Harris County, and our nation. The outcome depends on whether or not there is a prompt and just transition to democracy.

President Trump's words so far on his plans to "take over" and "run Venezuela" indefinitely with "boots on the ground" do not bode well for U.S. interests or for Venezuela's necessary future success. Neither do his threats to depose the duly elected presidents of Mexico and Colombia.

As President Trump's "takeover" proceeds, on behalf of community and economic interests in Harris County the third largest county in the nation and home to a massive energy industry with national ramifications I call for the President to usher in stability and success by ensuring a prompt democratic transition in Venezuela. And I call for Congress to reclaim its power and hold the President's actions accountable, ensuring they bring about a prompt transition to the elected Venezuelan leadership and their winning coalition. This necessitates transparency and respect for the rule of law on the part of our federal leadership.

I and my office remain in touch with industry leaders, diplomatic representatives, and federal partners as the situation unfolds.
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Reports this morning indicated a few injured but no risk to life. Haven't seen an update.
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Agit8r said:

It's only "war" when the otherside fights back.
Well said, sir or madam. Well said.
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I guess the deal didn't go through…

https://instagr.am/p/DRnXTc7geFV
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Anti-taxxer said:

I know everyone has been wondering what Dora the Explorer"s (Lina Hidalgo for those fortunate enough not to know her) take is.

She has spoken:

Quote:

On Behalf of Houston-Area Interests, Calling For A Prompt Transition to Democracy in Venezuela

Harris County has the fourth largest Venezuelan population in the U.S., and a majority Latin American population. Our energy industry, with obvious ties to Venezuela, is a major part of our economy, jobs, and the stability of energy prices nationally. I know that folks in Harris County are watching President Trump's actions regarding Venezuela this morning.

Actions to help a people topple an illegitimate and ruinous dictator can be a good thing, and many are rightly celebrating the removal of the top leader of a truly terrible autocratic regime. Not only could this morning's actions help improve the lives of Venezuelans, but on a numbers-and-cents basis, they could lead to better outcomes for our residents, our energy industry, and the nation. That said, Harris County residents and our industry only stand to gain from this morning's actions if they lead to stability in Venezuela. That is not only obvious, but it is what I am hearing from community and industry leaders.

A transition to democracy in Venezuela is our only hope for stability and for a true benefit to Americans and the American economy. A reconstitution of the Venezuelan oil industry is impossible without a reconstitution of the political system. And it is impossible for American forces to be that political system. As we have learned from intervening in other regions, only the legitimately elected Venezuelan leadership can engender a stable government and oil industry.

The president and Congress have the opportunity and responsibility to leverage this moment to negotiate the exit of the entire Maduro regime and usher in a prompt transition to democracy. The logical answer is the installation of the internationally-recognized President-elect, Edmundo Gonzlez Urrutia, along with the coalition around him, which is essentially led by Nobel Peace Prize recipient Maria Corina Machado.

What is to come can look like democratic, prosperous, and valuable U.S. ally Panama, or it can look like tumultuous Libya or Iraq. The prosperity that comes from the arrest of Maduro can be a temporary sugar high, or it can be a long-term cause for celebration for Venezuelans, Harris County, and our nation. The outcome depends on whether or not there is a prompt and just transition to democracy.

President Trump's words so far on his plans to "take over" and "run Venezuela" indefinitely with "boots on the ground" do not bode well for U.S. interests or for Venezuela's necessary future success. Neither do his threats to depose the duly elected presidents of Mexico and Colombia.

As President Trump's "takeover" proceeds, on behalf of community and economic interests in Harris County the third largest county in the nation and home to a massive energy industry with national ramifications I call for the President to usher in stability and success by ensuring a prompt democratic transition in Venezuela. And I call for Congress to reclaim its power and hold the President's actions accountable, ensuring they bring about a prompt transition to the elected Venezuelan leadership and their winning coalition. This necessitates transparency and respect for the rule of law on the part of our federal leadership.

I and my office remain in touch with industry leaders, diplomatic representatives, and federal partners as the situation unfolds.



Hahaha Dora figured out how to use AI.
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Dr. Nefario said:

I guess the deal didn't go through…

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRnXTc7geFV/?l=1


The way the Trump puppet says Madeuuurrrooo is hilarious.
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HoustonAg2106 said:

aginlakeway said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

nu awlins ag said:

TAMUallen said:

nu awlins ag said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

nu awlins ag said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

nu awlins ag said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

The Unforgiven said:

What is a war? Do you know what that is? Is this the 3 Hour War?


This isn't over yet, Why do you think this is over?

Are you old enough to remember the mission accomplished banner W put up on an aircraft carrier?

Hint: The mission was decades away from being over


Please stop with your crap. It's really embarrassing at this point.


Maduro's regime is still in charge. How is this over yet?


Really? And what is their response? I'm waiting for you to relay that bit of important information to us.



It's still pretty early to know where this goes.


Moving goalposts now. Ok….


And you know there will be ZERO credit if this continues to go ideally


Of course. Liberals…..well, they liberal.



This is so lazy, it's like calling people who disagree with you a Nazi. I have stated on here multiple times I voted for Trump all 3 times. He literally ran on not doing what he is doing. Doesn't make me a liberal


What is he doing? Because this isn't a war.


If anything close to this was done to the US it would obviously be an act of war…what world do you guys live in?

And guess what, if a foreign nation came in and took Trump prisoner over night there would probably be a lot of people in the street cheering about it too…does that make it okay???

False equivalency.
President Trump
  • was elected, Maduro was not
  • does not deal drugs running a cartel, Maduro runs a cartel dealing in death
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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100%. She's nowhere near lucid enough to compose that.
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BlackLab said:




This is one dude I could have a beer with.

Basically saying "No S Sherlock.
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richardag said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

aginlakeway said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

nu awlins ag said:

TAMUallen said:

nu awlins ag said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

nu awlins ag said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

nu awlins ag said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

The Unforgiven said:

What is a war? Do you know what that is? Is this the 3 Hour War?


This isn't over yet, Why do you think this is over?

Are you old enough to remember the mission accomplished banner W put up on an aircraft carrier?

Hint: The mission was decades away from being over


Please stop with your crap. It's really embarrassing at this point.


Maduro's regime is still in charge. How is this over yet?


Really? And what is their response? I'm waiting for you to relay that bit of important information to us.



It's still pretty early to know where this goes.


Moving goalposts now. Ok….


And you know there will be ZERO credit if this continues to go ideally


Of course. Liberals…..well, they liberal.



This is so lazy, it's like calling people who disagree with you a Nazi. I have stated on here multiple times I voted for Trump all 3 times. He literally ran on not doing what he is doing. Doesn't make me a liberal


What is he doing? Because this isn't a war.


If anything close to this was done to the US it would obviously be an act of war…what world do you guys live in?

And guess what, if a foreign nation came in and took Trump prisoner over night there would probably be a lot of people in the street cheering about it too…does that make it okay???

False equivalency.
President Trump
  • was elected Maduro was not
  • does not deal drugs running a cartel Ppresident Trump does not


Kidnapping a head of state is an act of war. Whether or not they were elected doesn't mean anything. If France abducted the king of England. That would be an act of war. Hell, Jefferson considered merely chopping down a flag staff at the US consulate a declaration of war.

The argument should be how this act of war was JUSTIFIED. Not pretend that it wasn't an act of war.
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aTmAg said:

richardag said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

aginlakeway said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

nu awlins ag said:

TAMUallen said:

nu awlins ag said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

nu awlins ag said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

nu awlins ag said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

The Unforgiven said:

What is a war? Do you know what that is? Is this the 3 Hour War?


This isn't over yet, Why do you think this is over?

Are you old enough to remember the mission accomplished banner W put up on an aircraft carrier?

Hint: The mission was decades away from being over


Please stop with your crap. It's really embarrassing at this point.


Maduro's regime is still in charge. How is this over yet?


Really? And what is their response? I'm waiting for you to relay that bit of important information to us.



It's still pretty early to know where this goes.


Moving goalposts now. Ok….


And you know there will be ZERO credit if this continues to go ideally


Of course. Liberals…..well, they liberal.



This is so lazy, it's like calling people who disagree with you a Nazi. I have stated on here multiple times I voted for Trump all 3 times. He literally ran on not doing what he is doing. Doesn't make me a liberal


What is he doing? Because this isn't a war.


If anything close to this was done to the US it would obviously be an act of war…what world do you guys live in?

And guess what, if a foreign nation came in and took Trump prisoner over night there would probably be a lot of people in the street cheering about it too…does that make it okay???

False equivalency.
President Trump
  • was elected Maduro was not
  • does not deal drugs running a cartel Ppresident Trump does not


Kidnapping a head of state is an act of war. Whether or not they were elected doesn't mean anything. If France abducted the king of England. That would be an act of war. Hell, Jefferson considered merely chopping down a flag staff at the US consulate a declaration of war.

The argument should be how this act of war was JUSTIFIED. Not pretend that it wasn't an act of war.
So what are they gonna do? Attack us? Invade Florida? Not much of a war going on here, just sayin.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
 
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