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And it didn't take much intuition to see she likely came from an affluent family.

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Don't believe everything you see on social media.

My dad was a LEO for almost 40 years. I rode with him a lot and actually worked for him for four years.
In all those years he saw lots of kids dead or horribly injured. He made a comment to me one night when I was a young teenager and we had responded to a bad car wreck on a rural highway where two girls were killed drag racing…. he said so many kids die from doing things their parents told them not to do …and they were doing what they knew they should not be doing and did it anyway.
It stuck with me forever.

Parents said that she stopped responding to texts at 6pm, which was unusual. I cant imagine she had fallen at that point and her body was found 7 hours later, but she may have been incapacitated in some way.

There's a possibility something bad went down in the apartment at some point in time and then the "fall" happened after that.

Did she actually go to the game? Or just tailgates?

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Did she actually go to the game? Or just tailgates?

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I haven't read anything about her attending the game, so I dont think so. She was just partying with that group either at a tailgate or even just a watch party at the apartment.

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https://www.facebook.com/share/1NrGtEAdSo/

Family has retained Buzzbee

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I wonder if in the upcoming questioning of those at the scene, someone is going to remember something pertinent and it escalates from there.

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Urban Ag said:

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And it didn't take much intuition to see she likely came from an affluent family.

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Don't believe everything you see on social media.

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This. It appears as if she was raised by a single Mexican mom from Laredo. Im going to guess they dont come from money.

Buzbee has been hired by her parents. They're planning a press conference for tomorrow.

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In the TikTok video posted by the guy claiming to be a witness he says he was walking past the building and heard a girl yelling "get off me" and sounds of a fight or struggle followed by a muffled sound like someone having a pillow stuffed in their face.

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I wonder how accurate that is. Could someone on the ground hear something from 17 floors up? And then be able to tell someone's voice was muffled?

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How is it even certain that she fell 17 stories? Because the first responders that wanted to conveniently rule it a suicide said so?

Just how bad has the homeless epidemic gotten in this very area?

More questions by the day.

Hopefully Buzbee is taking this on pro bono.

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Anti-taxxer said:

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Did she actually go to the game? Or just tailgates?

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I haven't read anything about her attending the game, so I dont think so.

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Well, thank God she didn't suffer.

You rode around with a cop a lot as a young teenager? I'm so confused.

I think it was his dad.

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I think it was his dad.

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Duh. Thank you. Read it as hers… Carry on

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How is it even certain that she fell 17 stories? Because the first responders that wanted to conveniently rule it a suicide said so?

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Wouldn't there be pretty telling evidence a body fell 17 floors? Never seen a case but seems like it would be pretty obvious.

That's a great point.

One thing I don't see mentioned much is this happened in Austin after a tu win against A&M. I bet Austin PD was stretched thin as crap because of the partying, etc. going on everywhere in town. I'm not surprised they fumbled the initial call.

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Serious Lee said:

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How is it even certain that she fell 17 stories? Because the first responders that wanted to conveniently rule it a suicide said so?

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Wouldn't there be pretty telling evidence a body fell 17 floors? Never seen a case but seems like it would be pretty obvious.

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The point could be made that maybe it was 10 floors or 15. With the significance being maybe she wasnt at the apartment of her friends.

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That's a great point.

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Agreed. So obvious its something have been assuming they knew and not lying about, so have stipulated as a given assumption thinking about this as starting point.

The Buzbee PC is going to be interesting. I imagine he is going to pose a list of questions they need answers based on what they have already learned

What time is it?

Nm. Tomorrow at 1.

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We told our kids we wanted them to learn what our expectations were and that we didn't want to have to list every "do's" and "don'ts".

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You probably should list those now, though, because what is considered permissible is now rather excessive. Can't count on it to be as obvious the lines.

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Our kids know where we stand. It has been a point of contention. We have navigated some deep waters with them and their friends and now that our kids are at the college age, we get "oh... I get it now."

Several of my kids' friends would confess stuff to us because we spent the time to get to know them and care for them. Not as a friend, but as a parent.

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We were pretty much the exact same as y'all. Establish the parent/child dynamic and let them live life, hoping they make the best decisions they can. We never monitored their movements and I wouldn't want to. I would have abused the hell out of it but we were very fortunate our somewhat nerdy kids were way more restrained than we were.

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One thing I don't see mentioned much is this happened in Austin after a tu win against A&M. I bet Austin PD was stretched thin as crap because of the partying, etc. going on everywhere in town. I'm not surprised they fumbled the initial call.

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Good point considering how thin their staffing is even on a normal day.

Oooffff..

https://www.facebook.com/share/17dqGogAb7/

UPDATE FROM AUSTIN POLICE ON BRIANNA AGUILERA'S DEATH

Austin Police Department held a news conference today, sharing new details in the investigation into the death of Texas A&M student Brianna Aguilera.

Police say evidence gathered so far does not indicate this was a homicide. According to investigators, Brianna had expressed suicidal thoughts several times in the past, and a digital suicide note written a few days prior to her death was on her phone but had been deleted.

Officers also confirmed she had an argument with her boyfriend on a friend's phone that ended about two minutes before she was found deceased.

APD says Brianna, who was intoxicated, lost her own phone on Friday after being asked to leave a tailgate party, which is why it was later found near a creek.

Investigators report they've spoken with multiple people who were with her, and all have been cooperative in this investigation.

During the briefing, APD Chief Lisa Davis reaffirmed the department's position that the case is being treated strictly as a death investigation not a homicide. Police emphasized the case remains open and active while detectives continue interviewing witnesses and reviewing evidence.

The official cause of death will be determined by the Travis County Medical Examiner's Office. Police also extended condolences to Brianna's family and friends and said every effort is being made to fully understand what happened.

LINK TO WATCH NEWS CONFERENCE IN THE COMMENTS

Austin Police Department released more information this morning.

"Austin Police Department held a news conference today, sharing new details in the investigation into the death of Texas A&M student Brianna Aguilera.

Police say evidence gathered so far does not indicate this was a homicide. According to investigators, Brianna had expressed suicidal thoughts several times in the past, and a digital suicide note written a few days prior to her death was on her phone but had been deleted.

Officers also confirmed she had an argument with her boyfriend on a friend's phone that ended about two minutes before she was found deceased. Police say this was confirmed through phone records.
APD says Brianna, who was intoxicated, lost her own phone on Friday after being asked to leave a tailgate party, which is why it was later found near a creek.

Investigators report they've spoken with multiple people who were with her, and all have been cooperative in this investigation.

During the briefing, APD Chief Lisa Davis reaffirmed the department's position that the case is being treated strictly as a death investigation not a homicide. Police emphasized the case remains open and active while detectives continue interviewing witnesses and reviewing evidence.

The official cause of death will be determined by the Travis County Medical Examiner's Office. Police also extended condolences to Brianna's family and friends and said every effort is being made to fully understand what happened."

Well that explains a couple of things.

- One, its clear they never doubted it was a fall, so apparently that was obvious.
- Second, the very strange thing of the phone found separately is explained.
- Deleted suicide messages and arguing with boyfriend unfortunately are big tells --- this bit about suicide over fights with S/O is far from uncommon unfortunately.

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Oooffff..

https://www.facebook.com/share/17dqGogAb7/

UPDATE FROM AUSTIN POLICE ON BRIANNA AGUILERA'S DEATH

Austin Police Department held a news conference today, sharing new details in the investigation into the death of Texas A&M student Brianna Aguilera.

Police say evidence gathered so far does not indicate this was a homicide. According to investigators, Brianna had expressed suicidal thoughts several times in the past, and a digital suicide note written a few days prior to her death was on her phone but had been deleted.

Officers also confirmed she had an argument with her boyfriend on a friend's phone that ended about two minutes before she was found deceased.

APD says Brianna, who was intoxicated, lost her own phone on Friday after being asked to leave a tailgate party, which is why it was later found near a creek.

Investigators report they've spoken with multiple people who were with her, and all have been cooperative in this investigation.

During the briefing, APD Chief Lisa Davis reaffirmed the department's position that the case is being treated strictly as a death investigation not a homicide. Police emphasized the case remains open and active while detectives continue interviewing witnesses and reviewing evidence.

The official cause of death will be determined by the Travis County Medical Examiner's Office. Police also extended condolences to Brianna's family and friends and said every effort is being made to fully understand what happened.

LINK TO WATCH NEWS CONFERENCE IN THE COMMENTS

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I say this from experience as I had two friends who dated girls like this back in the 2000's...but for some women, it is almost as if even moderate amounts of alcohol can flip a switch and send them into a manic, bipolar, or histrionic state. They may have no apparent mental illness when sober, but when drunk, anything can happen.

Went out with my roomate in Houston back in 2006 and he missed a few texts from his gf. We literally just went to a sports bar right down the street from our place in the heights to watch football over a few beers on a saturday evening, but she had gotten drunk and became 1000% convinced he was out cheating. We got a call from our other roommate...she had broken into our house and was basically ransacking the entire place and breaking laptops and TV's. Our buddy had locked himself in his room but said it was terrifying seeinig her like that...like she was posessed. (Cops took her back home and nothing else...imagine if that had been a man lol)

All that to say, a girl can look cute/pretty and happy as can be...and she may even be a relatively stable person in general...but for some of them, alcohol can turn them feral. Obviously have no clue what happened here and can only speculate...but reading that triggered some memories.

…and you can imagine why behavior like that might get someone thrown out of a tailgate. As said again, if she was tailgating near the stadium, Waller Creek runs just west of the stadium and is lined with trees. It would be easy to lose a purse while walking along or through those trees, particularly when crowded.

That area is also where the UT dance student was killed by a homeless guy several years back, thought that was in the early morning hours with no one around. They police the homeless much better on campus now. We were discussing that incident as my group walked through there Friday evening.

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APD says Brianna, who was intoxicated, lost her own phone on Friday after being asked to leave a tailgate party

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This part stands out to me as well. A highly attractive girl most likely has to be pretty freaking wasted or unruly and out of control to be asked to leave pretty much anything...especially a college football tailgate party. I bet she was wasted out of her mind.

Regardless, my heart breaks for her mother. She is probably praying it was homicide and that her baby girl did not choose to leave her and everything she knew behind. I cannot imagine and pray that none of us ever have to endure anything like this.

I know in men schizophrenia tends to onset in the early 20's. I'm not sure when bipolar onset's in women, but even in my very limited exposure it can be an absolutely brutal display when an episode kicks off.

I recall a situation once (I'm going to be exceedingly vague here) where it was just exceedingly uncomfortable for all involved as one woman in the group was belligerently insistent that someone take her out in his boat. Small boat on a bay, it was trailered (water front home, but the marina was a bit away), low/out of fuel, windy as hell, and the boat owner was in the middle cooking dinner for everyone. ZERO logic or reasoning with that situation with a few glasses of wine involved. I don't recall the resolution that evening, this was over a decade ago.

Most of us have seen it.

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That is so true. Its playing out at some remove being observed now. Which harrowing story incidentally, goes to point that however impractical or impossible it may be, it would not be a bad thing at all if alcohol too could go the way of the cigarettes and such disincentives finally work. What you describe is too true for many drunks, and the old excuse against drugs of "what about alcohol" unfortunately is a classic case, of Yes, society would be well rid of resorting to both. The existence of the latter never really has legitimized the former, but is just its own indictment. But it is what it is.

That APD statement makes me extremely sad.

Americans will never learn that Instagram life is NOT real life!!



also, how unbelievably insane it is to me when gorgeous women unalive themselves. I can understand when victims of horrific attacks but have seen many adult actresses and even regular actresses end themselves.

August Ames ended it at 23