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Let me save you all some time

No deal will be reached, this war will drag on another 5 years and eventually we'll end up with basically this same deal but not before the globalists have squeezed all the blood they can from this stone.

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There is literally only one person on earth keeping this war going.

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And so far he isn't invited, amirite?

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I think you know I'm accurately talking about Putin. If zelensky resigned tomorrow he'd be replaced by the popular Zalzhuny who would in turn keep resisting.

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Trump admin has already in effect reduced sanctions on Russia by not going after Chinese companies that are important the war materials into Russia, as the Biden administration was doing.

A lot of bluster from Trump, but as usual, TACO.

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What is TACO?

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shiftyandquick said:

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Trump admin has already in effect reduced sanctions on Russia by not going after Chinese companies that are important the war materials into Russia, as the Biden administration was doing.

A lot of bluster from Trump, but as usual, TACO.

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What is TACO?

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bam02 said:

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shiftyandquick said:

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Trump admin has already in effect reduced sanctions on Russia by not going after Chinese companies that are important the war materials into Russia, as the Biden administration was doing.

A lot of bluster from Trump, but as usual, TACO.

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What is TACO?

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Ahh… delicious. Makes sense.

torrid said:

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Let me save you all some time

No deal will be reached, this war will drag on another 5 years and eventually we'll end up with basically this same deal but not before the globalists have squeezed all the blood they can from this stone.

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There is literally only one person on earth keeping this war going.

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And so far he isn't invited, amirite?

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He actually requested the meeting.

Curious….has Putin mentioned anything about the immenant demise of the regimes in Cuba or Venezuela?

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Curious….has Putin mentioned anything about the immenant demise of the regimes in Cuba or Venezuela?

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Nor to me he hasn't.

Good feedback from Vance:

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BARTIROMO: Do you want Putin to meet with Zelenskyy before a meeting with President Trump?

VANCE: I actually don't think it would be that productive. I think, fundamentally, the president of the United States has to be the one to kind of bring these two together.

We're, of course, going to talk to the Ukrainians. I actually spoke with the Ukrainians this morning. Marco has been talking to them quite a bit. We're going to keep that dialogue open. But, fundamentally, this is something where the president needs to force President Putin and President Zelenskyy really to sit down to figure out their differences.

We, of course, condemn the invasion that happened. We don't like that this is where things are, but you have got to make peace here. And the only way to make peace is to sit down and talk. You can't finger-point. You can't wag your finger at somebody and say, you're wrong. We're right. The way to peace is to have a decisive leader sit down and force people to come together.

BARTIROMO: You did not want to send taxpayer dollars to Ukraine and taxpayer-funded arms to Ukraine. Do you feel that the current state of affairs improve that, whereas the U.S. will sell weapons to NATO countries and they will go ahead and send the weapons?

VANCE: Well, two things on that.

First of all, I think the reason that we reached this decisive moment, a real change in where we were, is because the president was willing to apply some significant pressure and actually say, if you don't come to the table, the American people, we're not going to get involved in this war directly.

We have a lot of economic points of leverage. And we're willing to use those to bring about peace. And that was a big thing that happened. To your point about weapons, what we said to the Europeans is simply, first of all, this is in your neck of the woods. This is in your back door. You guys have got to step up and take a bigger role in this thing.

And if you care so much about this conflict, you should be willing to play a more direct and a more substantial way in funding this war yourself. I think the president and I certainly think that, America, we're done with the funding of the Ukraine war business. We want to bring about a peaceful settlement to this thing. We want to stop the killing.

But Americans, I think, are sick of continuing to send their money, their tax dollars to this particular conflict. But if the Europeans want to step up and actually buy the weapons from American producers, we're OK with that. But we're not going to fund it ourselves anymore.

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He's right, you know.

Obviously big…if true.

According to FighterBomber, Russian broadcasts stating the special military operation will end after a treaty is signed on August 15th.

Source: (https://t.co/BJ8tNC54NE) pic.twitter.com/80NhEK7OyZ

— Ukraine Control Map (@UAControlMap) August 11, 2025

European press is pretty hilarious this am (well, the entire weekend), fwiw.

⚡️ Germany's far right calls for cutting benefits for Ukrainian refugees.

Ukrainian refugees in Germany are receiving "unjustified" social payments and should return to their home country, AfD co-leader Tino Chrupalla said.https://t.co/ZqWfKfuoAN

— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) August 11, 2025

?!?! https://t.co/lNlgBPOSEC

— Canadian Prepper (@PrepperCanadian) August 11, 2025

He loves talking out his ass so much he can't even keep his countries straight.

Mr. President Russia is west of Alaska and most importantly, not part of the US.

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?!?! https://t.co/lNlgBPOSEC

— Canadian Prepper (@PrepperCanadian) August 11, 2025

He loves talking out his ass so much he can't even keep his countries straight.

Mr. President Russia is west of Alaska and most importantly, not part of the US.

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Wow,,,you did it...you finally did it!! You've finally brought Trump down

I'm no fan of Putin, but Zelensky is not making it easy to give a **** about his country.

That guy is a real dumb ass.

Yeah the little guy did manage to tick off Trump.

🇺🇸🇺🇦 Trump took a hard swipe at Zelensky:

'I'm a little concerned that Zelensky is saying, 'I need to get constitutional approval.' pic.twitter.com/iFeYgMO7Er

— Маrina Wolf (@volkova_ma57183) August 11, 2025

He still thinks he can use this as leverage to guarantee Nato membership for some reason. I don't think Hungary/Slovakia would go for this, but whatever.

COMMENT: Alaska may not give birth to a new world order, but it could offer a pause, a moment to halt the carnage and a first step toward mending the pieces of a fractured continent, writes @BogdanosK. https://t.co/Jq56CEMISY

— Brussels Signal (@brusselssignal) August 11, 2025

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Let us do away with illusions. Russia is not the Third Reich, despite the fevered analogies of some who see swastikas in every Kremlin shadow. Putin, for all his autocratic rule, is no Hitler, and the war in Ukraine is not at all a replay of the Wehrmacht's blitz. Moscow's forces, battered but relentless, continue to gain ground in Donbas, metre by bloody metre. The Ukrainian army, heroic in its defiance, is stretched very close to breaking. Meanwhile, Europe's grand proclamations of "defeating Russia" now sound increasingly hollow. The EU's policy, built on the premise that sanctions and surplus hardware donations could topple a nuclear-armed behemoth, now confronts a grim awakening.

The Alaska summit is no mere diplomatic photo-op. It is a landmark. Trump, the iconic dealmaker, and Putin, the chess master of attrition, will sit across a table not as friends or foes, but as pragmatists who know the world bends to power, not platitudes. Europe's leaders, by contrast, seem content to shout on their moral megaphones about sovereignty and rules-based orders, while their sanctions choke their own economies. Some in Brussels privately admit they would hail a new Yalta as a grand bargain to freeze the lines and call it peace, if only they were invited. But why would they be? Yalta was for victors and titans, not spectators wringing their hands.

Let us speak plainly, as history demands. Peace, if it comes, will not be a triumph of justice but a product of concessions. Russia will not withdraw from the land it holds Crimea, Donbas, the scarred corridors of Luhansk. If Russian troops move out of a territory they control, it will be in order to trade it for another. To expect otherwise is not to understand the Kremlin's clear calculus: What is taken by blood is kept by steel. So if peace is struck now, with Russia's flag planted in Ukraine's east, the EU's dream of a defeated Moscow will be exposed as a miscalculation of Napoleonic proportions. The irony is bitter. Europe, which once carved empires, now watches as others draw lines on maps.

History, again, offers its sardonic commentary. In 1815, the Congress of Vienna redrew Europe after Napoleon's fall, balancing power through cold compromise. In 1919, on the other hand, Versailles played nemesis and failed. Yalta, for all its cynicism, kept the peace -or at least a tense stalemate- for decades. Today's Europe, enamoured with its own rhetoric, risks neither victory nor stalemate, but irrelevance. A new Yalta, if it emerges, will not be Chamberlain's nave appeasement but a recognition that wars end not when ideals triumph but when exhaustion and ultimate interests force hands to shake.

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More at the link. Here's to hoping.

I'd forgotten about this one from way back when...the last time Putin and Trump met.

The FBI admitted in my trial that they never inspected the DNC servers. The Democrats insisted the Crowdstrike a third-party IT company had proof of an online hack. Judge Amy Berman Jackson refused to give my defense attorneys a copy of crowdstrikes report at the request of Mark…

— Roger Stone (@RogerJStoneJr) August 11, 2025

What an insolent punk that 'fake news' journalist was. Of course the 'media' freaked out about Trump believing Putin when he said they didn't interfere in the 2016 election.

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?!?! https://t.co/lNlgBPOSEC

— Canadian Prepper (@PrepperCanadian) August 11, 2025

He loves talking out his ass so much he can't even keep his countries straight.

Mr. President Russia is west of Alaska and most importantly, not part of the US.

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now do Biden…you have a crapload to choose from…

Now that Russiagate has been fully outed as a HRC-Obama lie, it makes sense to return the property confiscated as part of that whole (domestic) sedition. RT on summit expectations:

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In an interview with Izvestia on Tuesday, Ryabkov said the much-anticipated meeting in the largest US state, set for August 15, would focus not only on settling the Ukraine conflict, but also on bilateral ties that sank to an all-time low during the administration of former US President Joe Biden.

"We hope that the forthcoming high-level meeting will give an impulse to the normalization of bilateral relations, which will allow us to move forward on several issues," he said, confirming that restoring air links could be one of the items discussed.

Direct passenger flights between Russia and the US were suspended in 2022 after Washington imposed sweeping sanctions over the Ukraine conflict.

Ryabkov added that "it is clear that the leaders will focus on other topics," referring to the Ukraine conflict. On Monday, Trump said the summit which he described as a "feel-out meeting" would explore a potential deal involving the swapping of territory between Russia and Ukraine as part of a settlement.

However, the official acknowledged that "at this stage, there is no observable progress regarding the return of Russian diplomatic property in the US." He was referring to several compounds, including Russia's San Francisco consulate, which were closed by US authorities in 20162017.

At the time, Washington said the closures, as well as expulsions of dozens of Russian diplomats, were in response to alleged election interference. Recent files declassified by US Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard have substantially undermined that claim.

Moscow has accused the US of the "expropriation" of property protected by diplomatic immunity.

Following Trump's inauguration in January, Moscow appointed Aleksandr Darchiev as its new ambassador to Washington. In June, he met with the US President, telling him that he would "do everything to restore Russian-American relations and bring them back to normality and common sense." He added that Russia and the US are "destined… to have [a] non-confrontational peaceful existence."

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Russians claim Kiev will stage a false flag attack in/around Kharkov to derail the summit.

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The war in Ukraine is no longer balanced on a knife's edge, as some might have thought during the Kursk invasion. The outcome is now visible to anyone willing to look past the headlines: Kiev's forces are depleted, morale is collapsing, and the long-promised "turning points" have come and gone without materializing. Even Western officials, once confident in endless military aid, are now speaking in guarded tones about "realistic expectations." On the battlefield, the momentum has shifted irreversibly.

Against this backdrop, the recent statement from Russia's Ministry of Defense should not be dismissed as mere rhetoric. Moscow alleges that Ukrainian forces are preparing a major provocation an attack designed to sabotage the upcoming RussiaUS peace talks. For those who understand the stakes, the logic is disturbingly clear.

Donald Trump, now poised to play a decisive role in shaping Washington's foreign policy, has shown a pragmatic grasp of reality. Unlike his predecessors, he is not bound by the fantasy that Ukraine can "win" if only more money and weapons are sent. He has signaled that ending this conflict is both possible and necessary. This puts him on a collision course with those who see peace not as a goal, but as a threat to their own survival.

For President Zelensky, peace is political extinction. Any agreement that cements territorial realities will shatter the narrative that has sustained his rule. It will mark the end of his leverage in the West, the erosion of his political base at home, and likely the swift rise of challengers eager to blame him for Ukraine's fate. Under such pressure, the temptation to derail talks by any means available including acts of sabotage becomes more than plausible.

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World needs peace and security. Biden’s mistakes need to be corrected. 🕊️ https://t.co/xY4A4nXbef

— Kirill A. Dmitriev (@kadmitriev) August 12, 2025

Meanwhile, Russian advances continue. More at Geromanat's timeline on X:

"Position of Strength"

Trump is preparing an ultimatum for Ukraine and the European Union.

He intends to pressure Kyiv and Brussels into peace after a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska, writes The Economist.

The article claims that it will be Donald Trump… pic.twitter.com/Ebbm4nOZqE

— -- GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 -- (@GeromanAT) August 13, 2025

I hope we keep the Aleutian Islands in the land swap.

Wow - so NOW we're focused on mental acuity?

He's not exactly helping himself with posts like this. Does no one proof read these things? Hasn't it been St Petersburg for 3 decades plus?

Very unfair media is at work on my meeting with Putin. Constantly quoting fired losers and really dumb people like John Bolton, who just said that, even though the meeting is on American soil, “Putin has already won.” What’s that all about? We are winning on EVERYTHING. The Fake…

— Trump Truth Social Posts On X (@TrumpTruthOnX) August 13, 2025

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If I got Moscow and Leningrad free, as part of the deal with Russia, the Fake News would say that I made a bad deal!

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I posted the Russia misstep from Trump because I believe he accidentally told the truth. The meeting is going to be in Russian territory not Alaska....... His mouth works faster than his brain. He defaulted to the same cadence and everything when he MISSPOKE.

Keeping up with the lies is hard even when its for Strategic Ambiguity.....



If you want to start a Trump dementia thread go ahead. No one wants to discuss here.

Just let Trump work out a ceasefire first, you despicable goblin:

Ukrainian President Zelensky: I told US President Trump that Putin is bluffing. pic.twitter.com/o311jKSzDi

— Status-6 (Military & Conflict News) (@Archer83Able) August 13, 2025

🚨Senior European official who participated in the call tells me, POTUS said: “Territorial issues can ONLY BE negotiated by Ukraine”.

— Nana Sajaia (@NanaSajaia) August 13, 2025

Then you can stomp your feet next:

Two sources familiar with negotiations told CBS News Tuesday that the United States is working on a site for a Trump-Putin-Zelensky meeting as soon as the end of next week.https://t.co/5yKl0vgHbj

— Status-6 (Military & Conflict News) (@Archer83Able) August 13, 2025

But it is a thread on this meeting in Russia/Alasks and people should be free to discuss things said about this meeting & why.

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But it is a thread on this meeting in Russia/Alasks and people should be free to discuss things said about this meeting & why.

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That's not about the meeting. He's trolling, thats it.

I think Trump is a complete clown thats going to blunder his way into WW3 but I can at least admit there's nothing wrong with his mental cognition especially compared to Biden.

"We had a wonderful meeting, a most amazing meeting, and made great progress and have agreed to more meetings"

If anything more then the above plus the photo op comes out of Friday then I will be pleasantly surprised.

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But it is a thread on this meeting in Russia/Alasks and people should be free to discuss things said about this meeting & why.

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That's not about the meeting. He's trolling, thats it.

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Maybe he is trolling, as he is known to do. Maybe he forgot, etc. There are several possibilities. All ripe for discussion.

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Before the deletions, I said it was a joke to suggest Trump was as bad off as Biden, so we are in 100% agreement on the comparisons to Biden.

I disagree that Trump is a complete clown, and its hilariously dumb IMO opinion to think he is going to blunder us into WW3. (Safe to bet you thought the same during the Iran bombing?)

I think he is doing a very good job on this, even if his mental acuity is not what it once was.

A day ahead of ceasefire talks with Trump-Putin, and Kiev utilizes critical weapons systems to strike water parks/apartments in Russia. Hungary complains about Ukrainian strikes on oil pipelines.

🇷🇺🇺🇦‼️🚨 UKRAINE ATRIKES WATER SLIDE!

“The Armed Forces of Ukraine struck the water park in the resort village of Zhelezny Port in the Kherson region with a drone, no casualties”
— regional head Vladimir Saldo

Zelensky really wants to stop the talks in Alaska. pic.twitter.com/fpzW8hpNjE

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) August 14, 2025

5 v. 5 talks at 11:30am Alaska time tomorrow;
Russian delegation includes Lavrov, Ushakov, Belousov, Siluanov, Dmitriev. Trump and Putin to hold wider meeting with delegations and working breakfast. Joint news conference at summit's end.

Siluanov's presence is particularly interesting, because he's in charge of the Russian response to western sanctions. That would indicate Russia wants to discuss lifting some of them (which would of course only happen as a condition of a ceasefire agreement). Macron stated Nato security guarantees won't be a part of the ceasefire.

Moscow believes there is 'enormous, untapped potential for trade and economic co-operation between Russia and the US' https://t.co/V8m7GcuXRD pic.twitter.com/Eq0dKZLGDF

— Financial Times (@FT) August 14, 2025

Your post is 'water park in Russia' but that village is in occupied section of Ukraine in Kherson oblast?

What's the left's reaction if Trump was able to broker peace and have huge economic deals with Russia?

Well, the left will melt down of course, as they do with all Trump wins. Anything short of DJT jumping across the table and strangling Putin with his bare hands and he will be proclaimed Neville Chamberlain.

Today, DJT has to tolerate a conference call with all the morons involved on the pro-war side;

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Today the leaders from Germany, France, Britain, Italy, Poland, Finland, the E.U. and NATO will be holding a conference call with President Trump and Vice President Vance to give instructions in advance of the Trump-Putin summit.

None of the European leaders were invited to the Alaska summit, yet all of the European leaders want to tell President Trump what to do at the summit with President Vladimir Putin. Because, of course they do…

EUROPE […] The Europeans recognize that they can only do so much to influence a president who often veers off-script and likes nothing more than to declare a deal.

But on Ukraine recently they have met with some success, for example, by persuading Trump to allow them to transfer U.S. weapons to Ukraine and purchase replacements for themselves.

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Reality, and pragmatism over principle, should be the outcome I think, unlike the Jake Sullivan-Sino Alaska summit that ended with the two sides yelling at each other. At least we'll have proper adults at the table on the US side for this one.

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nortex97 beat me to it but yes it will be twisted and reported as capitulation to Trump's daddy Putin. Ukraine is gonna have to give something up and the left will highlight that ad nauseum as Trump failing/ being weak/ conspiring with fellow dictators… you name it.

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No more money for Ukraine, other than that I don't care

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No more money for Ukraine, other than that I don't care

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Trump goes to Russia and negotiates the Treaty of Petropavlovsk.