Zachary Klement said:

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A true conservative patriot like Lindsey Graham would never involve himself with such nonsense!

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No Lindsey is too busy going to Disney celebrating the war he helped start.

AGHouston11 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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A true conservative patriot like Lindsey Graham would never involve himself with such nonsense!

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No Lindsey is too busy going to Disney celebrating the war he helped start.

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As he should be! Great work! A grown man going to Disneyworld alone is perfectly normal and not weird. Someone should tell Thomas Massie to give it a try.

Dorm 15 said:

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I only became deeply interested in the Epstein case because of the New Mexico connection. From reading the posts on this thread it appears that the individuals who down play the significance of failure to reveal all the files are those that are President Trump's strongest supporters. For the record, I do not believe there is any evidence that would incriminate President Trump. My reading of this topic,I cannot recall anyone who has suggested such. The Nassar, Swalwell, and Sandusky disgusting episodes have nothing to do with releasing the Epstein Files. I am just amazed that anyone would be OK or trying to justify the files not being released.

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There's clearly a motive for slow rolling files release. I believe Trump isn't protecting himself, he's protecting friends and friends of friends. He made strongly worded comments regarding releasing the files such as ""Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don't even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don't want their support anymore!"."

Earlier he explained his hesitancy to release documents as concern that good people could be hurt by phony information.

Trump couldn't care less about people getting hurt, UNLESS, it results in the loss of big donations for the ballroom or his library.

The majority of the billionaire class takes care of each other. They are neither liberal nor conservative. They are only interested in their personal financial interests.

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flown-the-coop said:

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Why is the Democrats legislature using funds setup for victims of esptein to create this "Truth Commission"?

That doesn't feel like justice for the victims. Feels like a bad use of funds for libs in New Mexico to grandstand on Epstein a few months before the midterms.

Prediction, July 31st "report" will be rehashed innuendo for political purposes.

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Well after the midterms when the leftists take control back if you don't like this you are definitely not going to like what's coming next. Trump and the DOJ had complete control over this from the first day of the second term. They could have been the lead on this in a good way. Instead the complete opposite.

The incoming circus that is coming is sadly well deserved.
It's too bad though for those that expected better.

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Unless they get a majority in the senate and end the filibuster then no worries at all. Even then it takes 67 to remove POTUS.

If libs want to start the national divorce in November, let's get it started. But Trump and those who love America should not be threatened by the POTENTIAL for libs to gain a majority in Nov and capitulate to them before elections. Thats the way flaccid Rs have acted. No more.

Just because the Dems stage a circus does not mean people have to show up for it.

Rocky Rider said:

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Dorm 15 said:

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I only became deeply interested in the Epstein case because of the New Mexico connection. From reading the posts on this thread it appears that the individuals who down play the significance of failure to reveal all the files are those that are President Trump's strongest supporters. For the record, I do not believe there is any evidence that would incriminate President Trump. My reading of this topic,I cannot recall anyone who has suggested such. The Nassar, Swalwell, and Sandusky disgusting episodes have nothing to do with releasing the Epstein Files. I am just amazed that anyone would be OK or trying to justify the files not being released.

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There's clearly a motive for slow rolling files release. I believe Trump isn't protecting himself, he's protecting friends and friends of friends. He made strongly worded comments regarding releasing the files such as ""Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don't even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don't want their support anymore!"."

Earlier he explained his hesitancy to release documents as concern that good people could be hurt by phony information.

Trump couldn't care less about people getting hurt, UNLESS, it results in the loss of big donations for the ballroom or his library.

The majority of the billionaire class takes care of each other. They are neither liberal nor conservative. They are only interested in their personal financial interests.

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While I certainly do not know if this is the case that has been my suspicion. That is why I find it strange that so many seem to fear President Trump being implicated. I do know that one of the purposes of the New Mexico investigation is trying to discover who knew what locally.

https://www.kob.com/new-mexico/epstein-survivors-testify-during-congressional-hearing/

Seems to be an obvious partisan hearing but the Epstein Episode is not going away.

Well as long as Stansbury is leading the charge we can be assured of no partisan politics and a focus on justice for the victims… or not.

It's not going away, it's GONE away.

What breaking news did Mensa Melanie uncover yesterday?

flown-the-coop said:

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Well as long as Stansbury is leading the charge we can be assured of no partisan politics and a focus on justice for the victims… or not.

It's not going away, it's GONE away.

What breaking news did Mensa Melanie uncover yesterday?

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There is a finite number of stable geniuses.

So nothing. Got it. Meanwhile, libs skipping out on hearing today to get to the bottom of the IC and CIA covering up COVID origins.

But by golly the world wants Geraldo to dig up a ranch in New Mexico where Epstein buried "children".

flown-the-coop said:

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So nothing. Got it. Meanwhile, libs skipping out on hearing today to get to the bottom of the IC and CIA covering up COVID origins.

But by golly the world wants Geraldo to dig up a ranch in New Mexico where Epstein buried "children".

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Thanks for the heads up.

Good to see Ro Khanna still using the victims for political gain…

Rocky Rider said:

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Dorm 15 said:

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I only became deeply interested in the Epstein case because of the New Mexico connection. From reading the posts on this thread it appears that the individuals who down play the significance of failure to reveal all the files are those that are President Trump's strongest supporters. For the record, I do not believe there is any evidence that would incriminate President Trump. My reading of this topic,I cannot recall anyone who has suggested such. The Nassar, Swalwell, and Sandusky disgusting episodes have nothing to do with releasing the Epstein Files. I am just amazed that anyone would be OK or trying to justify the files not being released.

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There's clearly a motive for slow rolling files release. I believe Trump isn't protecting himself, he's protecting friends and friends of friends. He made strongly worded comments regarding releasing the files such as ""Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don't even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don't want their support anymore!"."

Earlier he explained his hesitancy to release documents as concern that good people could be hurt by phony information.

Trump couldn't care less about people getting hurt, UNLESS, it results in the loss of big donations for the ballroom or his library.

The majority of the billionaire class takes care of each other. They are neither liberal nor conservative. They are only interested in their personal financial interests.

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The only trolls are those defending a billionaire pedophile class as fervently as you.

You're disgusting.

ETFan said:

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The only trolls are those defending a billionaire pedophile class as fervently as you.

You're disgusting.

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Expand please. What makes me disgusting? That I don't lap up your lies?

Who belongs to this "billionaire pedo class"? And have you gone through all the millions of files to support this position?

Rocky Rider said:

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Dorm 15 said:

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I only became deeply interested in the Epstein case because of the New Mexico connection. From reading the posts on this thread it appears that the individuals who down play the significance of failure to reveal all the files are those that are President Trump's strongest supporters. For the record, I do not believe there is any evidence that would incriminate President Trump. My reading of this topic,I cannot recall anyone who has suggested such. The Nassar, Swalwell, and Sandusky disgusting episodes have nothing to do with releasing the Epstein Files. I am just amazed that anyone would be OK or trying to justify the files not being released.

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There's clearly a motive for slow rolling files release. I believe Trump isn't protecting himself, he's protecting friends and friends of friends. He made strongly worded comments regarding releasing the files such as ""Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don't even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don't want their support anymore!"."

Earlier he explained his hesitancy to release documents as concern that good people could be hurt by phony information.

Trump couldn't care less about people getting hurt, UNLESS, it results in the loss of big donations for the ballroom or his library.

The majority of the billionaire class takes care of each other. They are neither liberal nor conservative. They are only interested in their personal financial interests.

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The slow rolling and its reasons are beyond obvious. Even a blind, dead person could see that.

Thing is, even if there are some things kept back during Trump's administration, all it will take is the next Dem POTUS to say, "Okay, release it all, without unnecessary redactions, making sure those needing protections get it and those needing justice served with extreme prejudice get it immediately.

And anyone who might have been protected no longer will have Trump, or anyone tied to him, to protect them.

People worried that justice isn't being served fast enough need not worry, for it will all come out in due time, and when it does, that's when the fun really begins.

Now that I think about it: Hell, if maga goes away when Trump does, it might even happen with the next Republican POTUS.

Patience.

There are NO MORE FILES to be released. Jeebus.

At some point folks are going to have to accept some harsh realities that the time for Justice was 20 years ago. You can be mad, disappointed and demand changes that ensure it does not happen again.

But any idea there is a secret dossier still hiding out is asinine at this point to anyone paying attention.

flown-the-coop said:

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There are NO MORE FILES to be released. Jeebus.

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Psyop.

flown-the-coop said:

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There are NO MORE FILES to be released. Jeebus.

At some point folks are going to have to accept some harsh realities that the time for Justice was 20 years ago. You can be mad, disappointed and demand changes that ensure it does not happen again.

But any idea there is a secret dossier still hiding out is asinine at this point to anyone paying attention.

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Pls guys, just trust our honest government! They are here to serve us!

flown-the-coop said:

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There are NO MORE FILES to be released. Jeebus.

At some point folks are going to have to accept some harsh realities that the time for Justice was 20 years ago. You can be mad, disappointed and demand changes that ensure it does not happen again.

But any idea there is a secret dossier still hiding out is asinine at this point to anyone paying attention.

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Oh, sorry, I honestly haven't been paying attention lately thanks to the war and data centers.

But if there are no more files, and nothing else to redact, then we're done. And if there is, I'm sure the next Dem POTUS will put it out there.

Until then, time to move on to more pressing matters, like vacation planning.

Zachary Klement said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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There are NO MORE FILES to be released. Jeebus.

At some point folks are going to have to accept some harsh realities that the time for Justice was 20 years ago. You can be mad, disappointed and demand changes that ensure it does not happen again.

But any idea there is a secret dossier still hiding out is asinine at this point to anyone paying attention.

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Pls guys, just trust our honest government! They are here to serve us!

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You act like no one has looked into this.

ETFan said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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There are NO MORE FILES to be released. Jeebus.

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Psyop.

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The psyop is that there billionaire pedo ring managed by Mossad through Epstein.

Find your proof and publish it.

No Spin Ag said:

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Rocky Rider said:

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Dorm 15 said:

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I only became deeply interested in the Epstein case because of the New Mexico connection. From reading the posts on this thread it appears that the individuals who down play the significance of failure to reveal all the files are those that are President Trump's strongest supporters. For the record, I do not believe there is any evidence that would incriminate President Trump. My reading of this topic,I cannot recall anyone who has suggested such. The Nassar, Swalwell, and Sandusky disgusting episodes have nothing to do with releasing the Epstein Files. I am just amazed that anyone would be OK or trying to justify the files not being released.

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There's clearly a motive for slow rolling files release. I believe Trump isn't protecting himself, he's protecting friends and friends of friends. He made strongly worded comments regarding releasing the files such as ""Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don't even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don't want their support anymore!"."

Earlier he explained his hesitancy to release documents as concern that good people could be hurt by phony information.

Trump couldn't care less about people getting hurt, UNLESS, it results in the loss of big donations for the ballroom or his library.

The majority of the billionaire class takes care of each other. They are neither liberal nor conservative. They are only interested in their personal financial interests.

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The slow rolling and its reasons are beyond obvious. Even a blind, dead person could see that.

Thing is, even if there are some things kept back during Trump's administration, all it will take is the next Dem POTUS to say, "Okay, release it all, without unnecessary redactions, making sure those needing protections get it and those needing justice served with extreme prejudice get it immediately.

And anyone who might have been protected no longer will have Trump, or anyone tied to him, to protect them.

People worried that justice isn't being served fast enough need not worry, for it will all come out in due time, and when it does, that's when the fun really begins.

Now that I think about it: Hell, if maga goes away when Trump does, it might even happen with the next Republican POTUS.

Patience.

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Just like the last two Democrat presidents did. They released everything, right?






Right?

techno-ag said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Rocky Rider said:

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Dorm 15 said:

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I only became deeply interested in the Epstein case because of the New Mexico connection. From reading the posts on this thread it appears that the individuals who down play the significance of failure to reveal all the files are those that are President Trump's strongest supporters. For the record, I do not believe there is any evidence that would incriminate President Trump. My reading of this topic,I cannot recall anyone who has suggested such. The Nassar, Swalwell, and Sandusky disgusting episodes have nothing to do with releasing the Epstein Files. I am just amazed that anyone would be OK or trying to justify the files not being released.

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There's clearly a motive for slow rolling files release. I believe Trump isn't protecting himself, he's protecting friends and friends of friends. He made strongly worded comments regarding releasing the files such as ""Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don't even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don't want their support anymore!"."

Earlier he explained his hesitancy to release documents as concern that good people could be hurt by phony information.

Trump couldn't care less about people getting hurt, UNLESS, it results in the loss of big donations for the ballroom or his library.

The majority of the billionaire class takes care of each other. They are neither liberal nor conservative. They are only interested in their personal financial interests.

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The slow rolling and its reasons are beyond obvious. Even a blind, dead person could see that.

Thing is, even if there are some things kept back during Trump's administration, all it will take is the next Dem POTUS to say, "Okay, release it all, without unnecessary redactions, making sure those needing protections get it and those needing justice served with extreme prejudice get it immediately.

And anyone who might have been protected no longer will have Trump, or anyone tied to him, to protect them.

People worried that justice isn't being served fast enough need not worry, for it will all come out in due time, and when it does, that's when the fun really begins.

Now that I think about it: Hell, if maga goes away when Trump does, it might even happen with the next Republican POTUS.

Patience.

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Just like the last two Democrat presidents did. They released everything, right?






Right?

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Interestingly, Obama isn't in the Epstein timeline. Trump, in his first term, is, and W, as well. Biden, of course, too.

A la Google:

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The timeline of the federal files includes:

• 2006: The FBI officially joined the local Palm Beach Police Department investigation to look into Epstein's sex-trafficking activities.
• 2007: Federal prosecutors drafted an extensive indictment, though it was ultimately dropped when Epstein negotiated a controversial non-prosecution agreement.
• 2019: Following Epstein's new arrest by Manhattan federal prosecutors, a massive new wave of case files, evidence, and prosecution memos was generated.
• 20252026: The Department of Justice released large batches of previously unreleased records and investigative files from these prior operations to the public

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ETA: Wrong emoticon. Wasn't supposed to be one.

flown-the-coop said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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There are NO MORE FILES to be released. Jeebus.

At some point folks are going to have to accept some harsh realities that the time for Justice was 20 years ago. You can be mad, disappointed and demand changes that ensure it does not happen again.

But any idea there is a secret dossier still hiding out is asinine at this point to anyone paying attention.

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Pls guys, just trust our honest government! They are here to serve us!

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You act like no one has looked into this.

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I don't trust the lies and flip-flopping from those involved in looking into it, you do, and that is okay.

The past ten years, as Trump Republicanism gradually supplanted Reagan-Bush Republicanism, the transformation has been fascinating (and disturbing) to watch.

Early on, in 2015 /2016, some Reagan-Bush Rs immediately saw the writing on the wall and said "nope." They began calling themselves Never-Trumpers.

Other Rs gave Trump a chance. But one by one, they faced the reality of what Trump is, and they stepped off the Trump bus.

For Liz Cheney, treason was a line she couldn't cross.

For MTG, the line she couldn't cross was protecting pedos.

For some Trump Rs, there is no line they won't cross, including turning a blind eye to the Epstein files and to Trump's protection of billionaire pedos and also to his coverup of files which clearly will raise many questions about his own long involvement with Epstein.

There was, is and likely will be.

In fact, you can look through the files yourself. Maybe get on the visitor list for Ghislaine.

What is stopping you?

BTW - Vance also explains the "hoax" nonsense that was a big discussion on this thread. It also references the notification Trump made 20 years ago to the Palm Beach police chief.

I encourage all to watch the video. Thanks for sharing.

Zachary Klement said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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There are NO MORE FILES to be released. Jeebus.

At some point folks are going to have to accept some harsh realities that the time for Justice was 20 years ago. You can be mad, disappointed and demand changes that ensure it does not happen again.

But any idea there is a secret dossier still hiding out is asinine at this point to anyone paying attention.

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Pls guys, just trust our honest government! They are here to serve us!

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You act like no one has looked into this.

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I don't trust the lies and flip-flopping from those involved in looking into it, you do, and that is okay.

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Yes you do believe the lies. The lie is you think the Trump admin is lying to you.

Do your own investigation and report back.

DeschutesAg said:

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The past ten years, as Trump Republicanism gradually supplanted Reagan-Bush Republicanism, the transformation has been fascinating (and disturbing) to watch.

Early on, in 2015 /2016, some Reagan-Bush Rs immediately saw the writing on the wall and said "nope." They began calling themselves Never-Trumpers.

Other Rs gave Trump a chance. But one by one, they faced the reality of what Trump is, and they stepped off the Trump bus.

For Liz Cheney, treason was a line she couldn't cross.

For MTG, the line she couldn't cross was protecting pedos.

For some Trump Rs, there is no line they won't cross, including turning a blind eye to the Epstein files and to Trump's protection of billionaire pedos and also to his coverup of files which clearly will raise many questions about his own long involvement with Epstein.

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Thank God. The Bushes have covered up more wrongdoings than most Dem POTUS's can manage.

The folks who love MTG, Lix Cheney, the crying dude and Thomas Massie are not and have never been about representing the people. They were all about their own political ambitions and when time came for them to grab some additional spotlight, they sacrificed their constituents, their party and their country for clicks.

Period.

Gaslighting about Trump protecting billionaire pedos is just more low IQ rhetoric for those who very clearly admit they were Never Trumpers from the day they

They say they were enlightened by the writing on the wall. No, they feared disruption of the uniparty and globalist desires and have been blinded with rage by the Orange Man glow ever since.

flown-the-coop said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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There are NO MORE FILES to be released. Jeebus.

At some point folks are going to have to accept some harsh realities that the time for Justice was 20 years ago. You can be mad, disappointed and demand changes that ensure it does not happen again.

But any idea there is a secret dossier still hiding out is asinine at this point to anyone paying attention.

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Pls guys, just trust our honest government! They are here to serve us!

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You act like no one has looked into this.

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I don't trust the lies and flip-flopping from those involved in looking into it, you do, and that is okay.

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Yes you do believe the lies. The lie is you think the Trump admin is lying to you.

Do your own investigation and report back.

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They were clearly dishonest about it.

On the campaign trail and prior to the election, Trump, his son, JD Vance, Bongino, and Patel all talked about releasing the files and many mentioned how there were assuredly more people tied up in them.

Bondi mentioned a client list being on her desk.

Then, they made a show about giving the files to a bunch of influencers...everything in that batch had been already released, but they made a show of it to try and distract people.

They released things that were overly redacted.

Then it became a "hoax," "fake," and Trump supporters that wanted more information were castigated by Trump. Nothing about the way this has been handle comes across as forthcoming and I have no reason to take them at their word for anything. It is possible they overpromised and overhyped everything prior to the election and shortly after taking office, it is also possible they lied and continue to lie to cover for things.

Start your reading here and you will see your lies have been debunked over and over and over again.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3548558/

And here is a video on your fake news about "hoax":


Thanks for AgDev01 for sharing it.

Why is coop allowed to litter this thread with out right lying?

Care to point out the lies?

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On the campaign trail and prior to the election, Trump

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Once again, Trump did exactly what he promised on the campaign trial regarding the Epstein files. His surrogates may have said differently, but Trump has been consistent on this.

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Why is coop allowed to litter this thread with out right lying?

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Delineate the lies.