ArcticPenguin said:

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You do realize the ignorance being referenced is the idea that POTUS can make such a decision, right?

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I recognize the ignorance of this statement....

Crazy the dems didn't impeach trump fornkilling soleimani during his last term. Wars have been started for far less.

Don't think he had congressional approval for that

ArcticPenguin said:

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Im Gipper said:

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The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.

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He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.

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The Houthis have attacked US personnel and assets in the middle east.

The Houthis are an Iranian funded proxy militia.

The Houthis would not attack US personnel and assets in the middle east without permission from Iran.

Iran has directly funded and directed Houthi attacks against US personnel and assets in the middle east.

Therefore, this was NOT an UNPROVOKED attack. (Note that I left out all the OTHER Iranian supported attacks on US personnel and assets). They have also declared Death to America for the past 46 years...and with nuclear weapons might be able to effectuate that.

This was a RESPONSE to all that aggression.

But, I'm hoping you (and the rest of the left) continue on your path of condemning the Trump for everything.

It's been working out well for you.

ArcticPenguin said:

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Huh? He has no right to do this. None. This should not be controversial in the slightest.

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You need to stop listening to lying Democrat politicians like AOC and Elizabeth Warren. They are pumping your head full of *****

Who?mikejones! said:

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Crazy the dems didn't impeach trump fornkilling soleimani during his last term. Wars have been started for far less.

Don't think he had congressional approval for that

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I'm surprised the Dems didn't impeach Obama for killing Abdulrahman al-Awlaki in a drone strike.





BWAHAHAHAHAHA...

No...I'm not surprised...

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* **Gerald Ford Mayaguez Incident (May 1975)**: Ordered the rescue operation for SS Mayaguez crew seized by Khmer Rouge and notified Congress under the War Powers Resolution soon after deploying forces ([en.wikipedia.org][1], [usni.org][2]).
* **Jimmy Carter Operation Eagle Claw (April 1980)**: Launched the Iran hostage rescue raid and submitted the required War Powers notification to Congress reporting the operation's scope and legal basis ([en.wikipedia.org][3], [dodig.mil][4]).
* **Ronald Reagan Invasion of Grenada (October 25, 1983)**: Ordered Operation Urgent Fury without prior express Congressional authorization, then notified Congress within 48 hours under the War Powers Resolution ([upi.com][5], [ccrjustice.org][6]).
* **Ronald Reagan Bombing of Libya (April 1986)**: Authorized air strikes against Libyan targets (Operation El Dorado Canyon) in response to terrorism, notifying Congress under the War Powers Resolution within the required timeframe ([library.cqpress.com][7], [reaganlibrary.gov][8]).
* **Bill Clinton Operation Infinite Reach (August 20, 1998)**: Ordered cruise missile strikes on al-Qaedaassociated targets in Sudan and Afghanistan and reported the action to Congress consistent with War Powers Resolution obligations ([asil.org][9], [en.wikipedia.org][10]).
* **Bill Clinton Kosovo Air Campaign (1999)**: Directed U.S. participation in NATO air operations over Yugoslavia, notified Congress under the War Powers Resolution despite debate over the 60-day limit and constitutional authority ([aclu.org][11], [scholarship.law.upenn.edu][12]).
* **Barack Obama Libya Intervention (March 19, 2011)**: Authorized limited air operations in Libya to enforce a no-fly zone and protect civilians, notifying Congress under the War Powers Resolution while arguing the operation did not constitute full "hostilities" ([propublica.org][13], [cato.org][14]).
* **Donald Trump Shayrat Airbase Strike in Syria (April 6, 2017)**: Launched a cruise missile strike in response to chemical weapons use, notifying Congress within 48 hours per War Powers Resolution requirements ([defense.gov][15], [en.wikipedia.org][16]).
* **Joe Biden Strikes on Iran-backed Groups (March 2023)**: Ordered precision strikes against IRGC-affiliated militia targets in Iraq and Syria, sending a formal notification to Congress under the War Powers Resolution citing defense of U.S. personnel and interests ([lawfaremedia.org][17]).

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Heres a list. Reagan even invaded a country under the war powers act.

ArcticPenguin said:

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Huh? He has no right to do this. None. This should not be controversial in the slightest.

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You sure are upset that we just destroyed Iran's nuke capabilities for the foreseeable future.

Do you ever wonder to yourself why you are on the wrong side of EVERY topic?

You claimed Trump was going to take away your kids and put you in a concentration camp. Why won't you address this? Multiple posters have called you out on it and you ignore them. Is it because you realize how ridiculously stupid that claim was?

Two weeks…….BLAMO

Deal with it

CanyonAg77 said:

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ArcticPenguin said:

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Im Gipper said:

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The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.

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He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.

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Two things:

1) How are things going since the Republicans took your kids away 10 years ago?

2) How are you posting from inside a concentration camp?

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lol. The roaches are out.

So Arctic, in your mind what right does Trump have?

The last Congressional declarations of war happened on 8-December-1941 when we declared war on Japan, and then a couple of days later when we declared war against Nazi Germany and fascist Italy. So what you are saying is that Truman (Korea), Johnson (Vietnam), Carter (hostage rescue attempt in Iran), Reagan (Grenada, Libya), Bush (Iraq), Clinton (lobbing missiles into various countries), Bush (Iraq and Afghanistan), and Obama (lobbing some missiles) had no right in their circumstances either.

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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So Arctic, in your mind what right does Trump have?

The last Congressional declarations of war happened on 8-December-1941 when we declared war on Japan, and then a couple of days later when we declared war against Nazi Germany and fascist Italy. So what you are saying is that Truman (Korea), Johnson (Vietnam), Carter (hostage rescue attempt in Iran), Reagan (Grenada, Libya), Bush (Iraq), Clinton (lobbing missiles into various countries), Bush (Iraq and Afghanistan), and Obama (lobbing some missiles) had no right in their circumstances either.

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Biden bombing Syria as well.

Yeah, I figured I overlooked something.

Arctic Penguin, do you watch MSNBC?

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GeorgiAg said:

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Good Trump. Apply pressure but hold your fire.

I bet Iran capitulates or Israel finishes the job for us by then.

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actually neither will happen, and now Trump has boxed himself in to a deadline, where he will appear very weak if he doesn't act. But as we know.......TACO. "Two weeks" means nothing.

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Well that didn't go the way some people thought it would.

Just like:
the dei riots
Covid
Trump/russia collusion
Hunters laptop
The last presidential election
Inflation

I can keep going...for a long time.

Just a reminder Obama carried out hundreds of drone and bombing campaigns across multiple countries throughout his entire presidency…and not a peep.

TX04Aggie said:

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Just a reminder Obama carried out hundreds of drone and bombing campaigns across multiple countries throughout his entire presidency…and not a peep.

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Hundreds?!?!?!?!?!

Try thousands.

In 2016 alone (before and after the election of Trump but before he took office in 2017) Obama dropped over 25,000 bombs mostly by drone attack. More than 12,000 each in Syria and Iraq.





Total Munitions (2012-2016): Some sources estimate Obama's total munitions released between 2012-2016 to be around 69,000-75,000.

ArcticPenguin said:

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Huh? He has no right to do this. None. This should not be controversial in the slightest.

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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

The President did what he was elected to do. Cope.

Lib leadership didn't fail to do it. They worked hard to give Iran a nuke. They gave huge sums of money, lifted sanctions, and gave Iran space to do their thing. They made secret agreements and negotiated with Iran without any legal authority to do so when Trump was president before. They're pissed.

That's what presidents didn't have the authority to do.

v1rotate92 said:

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Arctic Penguin, do you watch MSNBC?

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It's been a while since I've posted here regularly, but I'm pretty sure Arctic Penguin posted here years ago about how Trump was going to put her in "a camp" because she's gay.

So yes, if it's that AP, then MSNBC is on 24/7 at her house.

Gotta say, the memes have been pretty good though

ArcticPenguin said:

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Im Gipper said:

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The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.

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He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.

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OK, first off you need to acknowledge that you were wrong here. That you completely understand what you said was completely wrong and he absolutely can.

Secondly, do you ever get sick of self-owning yourself? I'm serious. I know fifth graders that have a better understanding of history than you do.

I don't know what scarier. That you believe that or that three people on here also believed it and starred your post.

But again, you really need to own up to the fact that you were wrong and apologize to people on here.

Better tell him to take it back.

TX04Aggie said:

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Just a reminder Obama carried out hundreds of drone and bombing campaigns across multiple countries throughout his entire presidency…and not a peep.

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Just a reminder that Iran has money and a nuclear program because of Obama and Biden

El Gallo Blanco said:

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Faustus said:

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I'll be shocked if we don't mop up the nuclear sites Israel can't finish off with its current ordinance and delivery systems.

The hemming and hawing is just theater and making it look like we were forced by Iranian intransigence on the diplomatic front.

This was the playbook all along assuming Israel wiped the floor with Iran, which it has.

Regime change would have to come from within given there will be no boots on the ground. So hopefully our engagement will be limited to those strikes on the nuclear facilities.

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This. Anything beyond this and I will be very disappointed. Im used to occasional stupid actions/decisions from Trump...there's always been Good Trump/Bad Trump...but this would be a monumental blunder for me. No wars, no "regime change"...finish off destroying their nuclear capabilities, if we must do anything at all, then GTFO.

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I think we're looking in the clear.

t_J_e_C_x said:

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Gotta say, the memes have been pretty good though

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weren't you the smooth brain echoing Reddit/AOC/Bernietard trash that the President was acting "unconstitutionally" not 24 hours ago?

Enjoy the memes, I guess. (the left can't meme, as you have provided evidence)

I encourage you to instead pick up a history book and ...i dunno...read it.

ArcticPenguin said:

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You do realize the ignorance being referenced is the idea that POTUS can make such a decision, right?

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hahaa you also assured us Harris was going to win.

Slicer97 said:

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ArcticPenguin said:

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Huh? He has no right to do this. None. This should not be controversial in the slightest.

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What color is the sky in your world?

He didn't declare war. He authorized a tactical military strike. As Commander in Chief, he can do that.

Hell, Obama killed an American citizen with an authorized strike.

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simply amazing the lack of education most Americans have in how our government works.

Cougar11 said:

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simply amazing the lack of education most Americans have in how our government works.

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Happens when you replace what you learned in high school government class with the lies routinely spewed by the MSM.

Slicer97 said:

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Cougar11 said:

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simply amazing the lack of education most Americans have in how our government works.

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Happens when you replace what you learned in high school government class with the lies routinely spewed by the MSM.

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Its even more crazy since Iran attacked us within the last 6 months, and have done so continuously for at least the last 5 years.

There's no scenario where trump isn't justified with this attack.

1. He gets to define the threat
2. He gets to act
3. He must inform congress
4. Congress has 60 days to restrict or to back.


If congress wants to restrict trump, they can very well do so right now.

BadMoonRisin said:

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t_J_e_C_x said:

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Gotta say, the memes have been pretty good though

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weren't you the smooth brain echoing Reddit/AOC/Bernietard trash that the President was acting "unconstitutionally" not 24 hours ago?

Enjoy the memes, I guess. (the left can't meme, as you have provided evidence)

I encourage you to instead pick up a history book and ...i dunno...read it.

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Go back and check my posts again cause I was merely asking under what pretext he was acting to justify the act and the questions were answered, but thanks for the attack.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

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TX04Aggie said:

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Just a reminder Obama carried out hundreds of drone and bombing campaigns across multiple countries throughout his entire presidency…and not a peep.

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Hundreds?!?!?!?!?!

Try thousands.

In 2016 alone (before and after the election of Trump but before he took office in 2017) Obama dropped over 25,000 bombs mostly by drone attack. More than 12,000 each in Syria and Iraq.





Total Munitions (2012-2016): Some sources estimate Obama's total munitions released between 2012-2016 to be around 69,000-75,000.

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He also droned US citizens overseas. Not a war crime but certainly violation of US Citizens constitutional rights which is IMO a bigger crime.

Bombing Iran's nuclear facilities was the right move by President Trump because Iran is the world's leading sponsor of terrorism.

agracer said:

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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TX04Aggie said:

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Just a reminder Obama carried out hundreds of drone and bombing campaigns across multiple countries throughout his entire presidency…and not a peep.

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Hundreds?!?!?!?!?!

Try thousands.

In 2016 alone (before and after the election of Trump but before he took office in 2017) Obama dropped over 25,000 bombs mostly by drone attack. More than 12,000 each in Syria and Iraq.





Total Munitions (2012-2016): Some sources estimate Obama's total munitions released between 2012-2016 to be around 69,000-75,000.

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He also droned US citizens overseas. Not a war crime but certainly violation of US Citizens constitutional rights which is IMO a bigger crime.

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I assume the big boom when the missile hit was what they called Due Process, right? Because the left seems to REALLY be in love with that term right now...