Do they even teach government and history in school anymore?

the most cool guy said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Bad example. Congress authorized those military actions.

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They didn't authorize the initial strikes.

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Incorrect!

9-18-01. Congress authorizes military use

10-7-01. First strike against Afghanistan

the most cool guy said:

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Houston Lee said:

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ABattJudd said:

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Krombopulos Michael said:

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Massie doesn't like it....

This is not Constitutional. https://t.co/EU3fS5jcwb

— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) June 21, 2025

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Massie can not like it as much as he wants, but he's dead wrong on the constitutional question.

If he doesn't like a president having that kind of power, he's an effing senator. He should have been working to reform the War Powers Act to curtail this ability.

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Trying to find the war powers act in the constitution…

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Let me help you.

The Constitution authorizes Congress to pass laws. They passed the War Powers Act. The Constitution authorizes the courts to review and interpret the War Powers Act. They never declared it unconstitutional... yet.

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FIFY


I'm sure once somebody surfs a newspaper into Oahu, some Hawaii Judge will put out an edict that he has to cease and desist, even though he's already ceased bombing them further into the stone age than they already are.

the most cool guy said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Is this legal and constitutional?

I don't think it is.

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You think wrong.


The President is Commander in Chief.

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Ok, so we don't ever have to declare war again. We could literally drop a nuclear bomb and wipe out Mexican cuz "prez is CnC".

I learn something new on this board everyday.

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That's actually 100% correct. We never declared war on Iraq or Afghanistan either, despite being there for years.

Your lack of even the basic understanding of how the U.S. government works is actually appalling.

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An Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) was passed almost immediately post-911 against "terrorists" (vague, right?) that served as the authorization by Congress to attack....terrorists -- that justified, I guess the Afghan war (we thought Osama was there, which he was, but he fled to Pakistan after Tora Bora). Another one was issued in 2002 in Iraq leading to our operations in Iraq in March 2003.

There were no AUMF declarations passed in Congress for:
Kosovo (late 90s) - Clinton
Libya (2011) - Obama
Yemen - Several.

And more.

With past attacks from Iran and Hezzbolah in the region for the last several years, you could argue that the 2001 approval against "terrorists" would apply here.

Either way, it doesn't matter at all. Just idiot replicants, repeating their idiot leaders talking points.

Im Gipper said:

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the most cool guy said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Bad example. Congress authorized those military actions.

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They didn't authorize the initial strikes.

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Incorrect!

9-18-01. Congress authorizes military use

10-7-01. First strike against Afghanistan

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We were striking Afghanistan on 9/12, bro. I'm sure Google and Chat GPT won't tell you that though.

Lindsey Graham right now @LindseyGrahamSC pic.twitter.com/ByZ0KNNeox

— Rudy Havenstein, Senior Markets Commentator. (@RudyHavenstein) June 13, 2025

I really don't know if this was the right move or not. We will have to see, but it's happened. So I will get behind it.

If the Democrats try to impeach him over the bombing of Fordow they will be lining up on the 20 side of another 80/20 issue. It's like a moth and flame. They can't help themselves.

the most cool guy said:

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Im Gipper said:

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the most cool guy said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Bad example. Congress authorized those military actions.

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They didn't authorize the initial strikes.

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Incorrect!

9-18-01. Congress authorizes military use

10-7-01. First strike against Afghanistan

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We were striking Afghanistan on 9/12, bro.

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Link?

Fetterman likes it.....

As I’ve long maintained, this was the correct move by @POTUS.

Iran is the world’s leading sponsor of terrorism and cannot have nuclear capabilities.

I’m grateful for and salute the finest military in the world. 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/YZ0pIaunff

— U.S. Senator John Fetterman (@SenFettermanPA) June 22, 2025

Logos Stick said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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ArcticPenguin said:

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Im Gipper said:

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The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.

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He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.

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The President may authorize the launch of missiles as part of military operations introduced into hostilities without further Congressional approval so long as those operations remain within the 60-day (plus 30-day withdrawal) window set by the War Powers Resolution. The President must notify Congress within 48 hours of introducing forces and must terminate or withdraw forces within 60 days (or 90 days if safe withdrawal requires)

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So, no, not illegal

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There is no imminent threat to us though.

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Guess you forgot about all the splinter cells already over here from your boys Biden and Obama.

Tramp96 said:

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Do they even teach government and history in school anymore?

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I do! And the AP US Gov curriculum specifically requires I teach the War Powers Act.

the most cool guy said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Is this legal and constitutional?

I don't think it is.

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You think wrong.


The President is Commander in Chief.

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Ok, so we don't ever have to declare war again. We could literally drop a nuclear bomb and wipe out Mexican cuz "prez is CnC".

I learn something new on this board everyday.

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That's actually 100% correct. We never declared war on Iraq or Afghanistan either, despite being there for years.

Your lack of even the basic understanding of how the U.S. government works is actually appalling.

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Astan was harboring AQ, which attacked us, Einstein! HTH.

Iraq was total bull***** We should never have attacked them. W was a dumbass for doing that.

Ulysses90 said:

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If the Democrats try to impeach him over the bombing of Fordow they will be lining up on the 20 side of another 80/20 issue. It's like a moth and flame. They can't help themselves.

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Really the Democrat party has become nothing but a useless pustule on Americas ass. They are on the wrong side of damn near every issue right now. Them flocking to Twitter threatening impeachment is just par for the course of their complete disconnect with the American people.

I mean an ogre that wears hoodies is the voice of reason in their party

Cromagnum said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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ArcticPenguin said:

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Im Gipper said:

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The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.

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He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.

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Quote:

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The President may authorize the launch of missiles as part of military operations introduced into hostilities without further Congressional approval so long as those operations remain within the 60-day (plus 30-day withdrawal) window set by the War Powers Resolution. The President must notify Congress within 48 hours of introducing forces and must terminate or withdraw forces within 60 days (or 90 days if safe withdrawal requires)

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So, no, not illegal

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There is no imminent threat to us though.

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Guess you forgot about all the splinter cells already over here from your boys Biden and Obama.

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Yea I have been hearing about terrorist splinter and sleeper cells since 9/12/2001. About as often as the 'Iran is just two weeks away' claims.

Logos Stick said:

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the most cool guy said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Is this legal and constitutional?

I don't think it is.

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You think wrong.


The President is Commander in Chief.

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Ok, so we don't ever have to declare war again. We could literally drop a nuclear bomb and wipe out Mexican cuz "prez is CnC".

I learn something new on this board everyday.

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That's actually 100% correct. We never declared war on Iraq or Afghanistan either, despite being there for years.

Your lack of even the basic understanding of how the U.S. government works is actually appalling.

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Astan was harboring AQ, which attacked us, Einstein! HTH.

Iraq was total bull***** We should never have attacked them. W was a dumbass for doing that.

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You're not arguing legality there; you're arguing justification. That's a separate issue.

As far as legality goes, Congress has given the Presidency the power to commit troops to combat for up to 60 days (plus 30-day withdrawal period) without Congressional approval. He simply must NOTIFY Congress within 48 hours of the action.

There are arguments that the WPA is unconstitutional, but several of those arguments actually say that the WPA unconstitutionally limits the President's powers as the CINC.

It's reasonable to disagree with the decision and argue the merits or drawbacks of this action. It seems to me, however, that there is no question as to the legality of this action.

As soon as news breaks, ayatollah lovers come to post "he just committed a war crime".

Of course the main news media saying "we are now a nation at war". And while that's a possibility, right now we just did a quick strike and retreat. The language is purposeful to feed the idiots who think Trump committed an impeachable offense ordering this strike.

blacksox said:

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If you all haven't figured it out yet, when Trump says "two weeks" is means he ain't doing *****

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Leading candidate for "Post that did not age well."

ArcticPenguin said:

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Im Gipper said:

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The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.

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He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.

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Two things:

1) How are things going since the Republicans took your kids away 10 years ago?

2) How are you posting from inside a concentration camp?

ArcticPenguin said:

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Im Gipper said:

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The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.

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He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.

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Wrong. He was well within his authority to do this.

Logos Stick said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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ArcticPenguin said:

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Im Gipper said:

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The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.

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He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.

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Quote:

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The President may authorize the launch of missiles as part of military operations introduced into hostilities without further Congressional approval so long as those operations remain within the 60-day (plus 30-day withdrawal) window set by the War Powers Resolution. The President must notify Congress within 48 hours of introducing forces and must terminate or withdraw forces within 60 days (or 90 days if safe withdrawal requires)

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So, no, not illegal

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There is no imminent threat to us though.

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Our consulate in Tel Aviv got hit. Seems pretty imminent to me.

ArcticPenguin said:

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Im Gipper said:

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The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.

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He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.

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All politics aside, this is just objectively false. The President absolutely has the authority to launch an attack on foreign soil without military provocation and without congressional approval. Moreover, literally every President since Herbert Hoover has done so.

Lots of crow being served in the this thread from the resident "Taco" crowd. Trump just did what the lib leadership failed to do in 16 years.

Infection_Ag11 said:

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ArcticPenguin said:

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Im Gipper said:

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The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.

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He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.

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All politics aside, this is just objectively false. The President absolutely has the authority to launch an attack on foreign soil without military provocation and without congressional approval. Moreover, literally every President since Herbert Hoover has done so.

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Were those "Presidents" orange, and bad, huh?

It's differen(T)!

Infection_Ag11 said:

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ArcticPenguin said:

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Im Gipper said:

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The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.

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He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.

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All politics aside, this is just objectively false. The President absolutely has the authority to launch an attack on foreign soil without military provocation and without congressional approval. Moreover, literally every President since Herbert Hoover has done so.

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I'm beginning to believe people are just this ignorant.

IslanderAg04 said:

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Infection_Ag11 said:

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ArcticPenguin said:

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Im Gipper said:

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The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.

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He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.

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All politics aside, this is just objectively false. The President absolutely has the authority to launch an attack on foreign soil without military provocation and without congressional approval. Moreover, literally every President since Herbert Hoover has done so.

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I'm beginning to believe people are just this ignorant.

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or penguins just don't care

Kenneth_2003 said:

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blacksox said:

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If you all haven't figured it out yet, when Trump says "two weeks" is means he ain't doing *****

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Milk ages better than this...

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Harvey Milk aged better than this...

Huh? He has no right to do this. None. This should not be controversial in the slightest.

You do realize the ignorance being referenced is the idea that POTUS can make such a decision, right?

ArcticPenguin said:

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You do realize the ignorance being referenced is the idea that POTUS can make such a decision, right?

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Every president since Hoover has launched attacks like this. Even democrats.

Penguin doubling down, let's see how this goes.

ArcticPenguin said:

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Huh? He has no right to do this. None. This should not be controversial in the slightest.

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What color is the sky in your world?

He didn't declare war. He authorized a tactical military strike. As Commander in Chief, he can do that.

Hell, Obama killed an American citizen with an authorized strike.

ArcticPenguin said:

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You do realize the ignorance being referenced is the idea that POTUS can make such a decision, right?

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Lol. He explicitly has, as any other president has, that ability.

IslanderAg04 said:

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Lots of crow being served in the this thread from the resident "Taco" crowd. Trump just did what the lib leadership failed to do in 16 years.

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Hell, 46 years.