President Trump will make decision to join the war against Iran within two weeks

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samurai_science
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There will be much crying on Reddit and Bluesky
dmz233
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ArcticPenguin said:

Im Gipper said:

The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.
He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.


Don't let your distain for Trump become ignorant in history.
Jbob04
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samurai_science said:

There will be much crying on Reddit and Bluesky

And Texags. TDS is rampant
Scotty Appleton
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Logos Stick said:

Is this legal and constitutional?

I don't think it is.


You should ask AI
Zombie Jon Snow
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ArcticPenguin said:

Im Gipper said:

The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.
He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.


lol

You're unhinged.

Im sure you said the same on all of these.

John Adams: Authorized the Quasi-War with France, an undeclared naval conflict.

Thomas Jefferson: Engaged in the First Barbary War against Barbary pirates who were attacking American ships.

James Madison: Led the United States into the Second Barbary War against Algiers.

James K. Polk: Led the United States into the Mexican-American War.

Franklin D. Roosevelt: Declared war on Japan after the attack on Pearl Harbor, and subsequently on Germany and Italy.

Harry S. Truman: Authorized military intervention in the Korean War.

Lyndon B. Johnson: Escalated U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War, including the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

George H.W. Bush: Ordered the invasion of Panama to overthrow Manuel Noriega and sent troops to Somalia.

George W. Bush: Launched the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Bill Clinton: Authorized military interventions in Haiti, the Balkans (including Kosovo), and launched cruise missile attacks on Iraq.

Barack Obama: Authorized air strikes in Libya and military operations against ISIS in Iraq and Syria.
Who?mikejones!
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Logos Stick said:

Who?mikejones! said:

ArcticPenguin said:

Im Gipper said:

The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.
He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.


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The President may authorize the launch of missiles as part of military operations introduced into hostilities without further Congressional approval so long as those operations remain within the 60-day (plus 30-day withdrawal) window set by the War Powers Resolution. The President must notify Congress within 48 hours of introducing forces and must terminate or withdraw forces within 60 days (or 90 days if safe withdrawal requires)



So, no, not illegal


There is no imminent threat to us though.


That doesn't matter. Even if it did, it'd be the executive branch who defines that threat.

Trump has 48 hrs to notify Congress. Congress has 60 days to give him full power or curtail him
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Tramp96 said:

I love people saying this was an unprovoked attack. Fox News just reviewed a long long list of attacks Iran has committed against the US.

And their own parliament vowed to destroy us with a nuclear weapon.

But yeah, this was totally an unprovoked attack on a sweet little innocent country that didn't do nuffin.
Putting a hit on Trump is pretty provocative

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/08/donald-trump-iran-assassination-plot-00188498


Honestly if he just bombs their nuclear sites they are getting off light

The world needs mean tweets

My Pronouns Ultra and MAGA

Trump 2024
the most cool guy
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Logos Stick said:

Who?mikejones! said:

ArcticPenguin said:

Im Gipper said:

The President is the commander in chief of the Armed Forces.
He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.


Quote:

The President may authorize the launch of missiles as part of military operations introduced into hostilities without further Congressional approval so long as those operations remain within the 60-day (plus 30-day withdrawal) window set by the War Powers Resolution. The President must notify Congress within 48 hours of introducing forces and must terminate or withdraw forces within 60 days (or 90 days if safe withdrawal requires)



So, no, not illegal


There is no imminent threat to us though.

What world are you living in? You're literally just making **** up.
samurai_science
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-on-qaddafi-we-came-we-saw-he-died/


In 2011, American warplanes participated in a military intervention in Libya, specifically targeting Libyan air defenses and military forces
Krombopulos Michael
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Massie doesn't like it....

Hank the Grifter
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It's been absolutely incredible watching the American left side with illegal aliens and Iran over the past two weeks.
Leaving zero doubt about how much they despise this country.
the most cool guy
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Krombopulos Michael said:

Massie doesn't like it....



Massie apparently didn't finish high school if he thinks this is unconstitutional.
Who?mikejones!
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Well, he's wrong in this case.

Congress now has 60 days to curtail any further actions. Id suggest he convince a majority of his peers to pass his bill
samurai_science
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Krombopulos Michael said:

Massie doesn't like it....


Oh no, anyway
Logos Stick
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Im Gipper said:

Logos Stick said:

Is this legal and constitutional?

I don't think it is.


You think wrong.


The President is Commander in Chief.


Ok, so we don't ever have to declare war again. We could literally drop a nuclear bomb and wipe out Mexican cuz "prez is CnC".

I learn something new on this board everyday.
harleyds2
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Did you say that when reagan bombed libya?
ABattJudd
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Krombopulos Michael said:

Massie doesn't like it....




Massie can not like it as much as he wants, but he's dead wrong on the constitutional question.

If he doesn't like a president having that kind of power, he's an effing senator. He should have been working to reform the War Powers Act to curtail this ability.
"Well, if you can’t have a great season, at least ruin somebody else’s." - Olin Buchanan
Tramp96
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Well he is from Kentucky.
Im Gipper
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You learned to how build a strawman. Thats for sure!


I'm Gipper
samurai_science
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Logos Stick said:

Im Gipper said:

Logos Stick said:

Is this legal and constitutional?

I don't think it is.


You think wrong.


The President is Commander in Chief.


Ok, so we don't ever have to declare war again. We could literally drop a nuclear bomb and wipe out Mexican cuz "prez is CnC".

I learn something new on this board everyday.
Apparently not
samurai_science
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harleyds2 said:

Did you say that when reagan bombed libya?
Or when Obama bombed Libya?
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Jbob04 said:

Man there is some TDS on here and a lot of people that need to get educated. Wow


The truth of the matter is these people just don't ever want Trump to be successful in anything so they will just make up and say it's unconstitutional they never want him to be victorious and they do not want him having a very, very successful second term because they can see it happening right before their face
Tramp96
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Logos Stick said:

Im Gipper said:

Logos Stick said:

Is this legal and constitutional?

I don't think it is.


You think wrong.


The President is Commander in Chief.


Ok, so we don't ever have to declare war again. We could literally drop a nuclear bomb and wipe out Mexican cuz "prez is CnC".

I learn something new on this board everyday.


I love how you conveniently ignore every action by our military since the Korean War.

You're being absurdly ridiculous.
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ABattJudd said:

Krombopulos Michael said:

Massie doesn't like it....




Massie can not like it as much as he wants, but he's dead wrong on the constitutional question.

If he doesn't like a president having that kind of power, he's an effing senator. He should have been working to reform the War Powers Act to curtail this ability.


Trying to find the war powers act in the constitution…
BigRobSA
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Logos Stick said:



Ok, so we don't ever have to declare war again.
IHIOGA that he, very clearly, said "1,2,3,4...I declare a THUMB war..." and one of his aides misheard him.
Im Gipper
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He's not a senator.

I'm Gipper
BadMoonRisin
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harleyds2 said:

Did you say that when reagan bombed libya?
I can guarantee you that I did not, since I was 9 months old at the time.

I was still working on "Dada and Mama", which unfortunately took my focus off of my US foreign policy studies at the time.

I read a lot of books about history after I was all grown up, though...
BigRobSA
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LegalDrugPusher said:

Jbob04 said:

Man there is some TDS on here and a lot of people that need to get educated. Wow


The truth of the matter is these people just don't ever want Trump to be successful in anything so they will just make up and say it's unconstitutional they never want him to be victorious and they do not want him having a very, very successful second term because they can see it happening right before their face
the most cool guy
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Logos Stick said:

Im Gipper said:

Logos Stick said:

Is this legal and constitutional?

I don't think it is.


You think wrong.


The President is Commander in Chief.


Ok, so we don't ever have to declare war again. We could literally drop a nuclear bomb and wipe out Mexican cuz "prez is CnC".

I learn something new on this board everyday.

That's actually 100% correct. We never declared war on Iraq or Afghanistan either, despite being there for years.

Your lack of even the basic understanding of how the U.S. government works is actually appalling.
Im Gipper
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Bad example. Congress authorized those military actions.



I'm Gipper
Clavell
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Congress hasn't declared war since WWII, how do people not know this?
Cinco Ranch Aggie
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Clavell said:

Congress hasn't declared war since WWII, how do people not know this?
People are either stupid or drinking the commie dem KoolAid
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ArcticPenguin said:

He cannot launch an unprovoked attack on a foreign government. Good grief. He just committed a war crime.


I'm shocked you have internet priveleges in that camp Trump threw you in.

Oh wait.....yet another thing that didn't happen.
the most cool guy
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Im Gipper said:

Bad example. Congress authorized those military actions.




They didn't authorize the initial strikes.
the most cool guy
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Houston Lee said:

ABattJudd said:

Krombopulos Michael said:

Massie doesn't like it....




Massie can not like it as much as he wants, but he's dead wrong on the constitutional question.

If he doesn't like a president having that kind of power, he's an effing senator. He should have been working to reform the War Powers Act to curtail this ability.


Trying to find the war powers act in the constitution…

Let me help you.

The Constitution authorizes Congress to pass laws. They passed the War Powers Act. The Constitution authorizes the courts to review and interpret the War Powers Act. They never declared it unconstitutional.
 
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