infinity ag said:
GeorgiAg said:
infinity ag said:
Why are so many poors and lolpoors so passionately fighting for "tax cuts for the rich"?
A rich guy with 100M doesn't really need a damn tax cut. It won't make his life better or worse.
A poor guy struggling every day, if he gets a tax cut, will be able to survive and fight another day.
Example: I am "well off". I don't need social security though I paid into it for 25+ years. If it goes away, I would not notice. A poor person? Yes, it will affect him a lot and he is counting on it.
I would support SS to be canceled for everyone beyond a certain wealth level. Maybe $500k or something. Or maybe a certain last salary level of $100k. I am also part of it and I volunteer to lose my SS benefits too. This is a minimum we can do for our country to reduce the burden. Send the money saved towards the external debt.
I demand tax cuts for the poor. Make unemployment as tax free.
Empathy of any kind is weakness. Unless you are for kicking the old, infirm and young out on the street, you are a "marxist!"
heh.. lots of people here boasting on TA thinking that AI won't get them or they are going to become CEOs one day... but wait till they are old and weak, the same people are going to beg for socialism.
This conversation is always people talking past each other with false choice it seems.
The last thing in line that should be cut is help for people that genuinely need it. To the extent we have to at all.
Here's the problem, though. A lot of the people who scream all day about cutting benefits for the vulnerable (rightfully so), will not admit or accept that there is MASSIVE waste and fraud elsewhere in the government. Which is ironic, considering getting rid of that is what will make these benefits programs more solvent moving forward.
Don't want to raise the age of SS or do means testing? Want to make sure Medicaid isn't in danger? Great. Then you need to be willing to cut the completely duplicative federal agency. The federal worker who does little to nothing, hidden alway deep in the bowels of our massive administrative state, with his/her six figure income and fat pension after 20 years that you can't get anywhere in the private sector. The huge amount of prime office space the Feds pay for that is hardly utilized. The funding to the NGO that acts solely as a work around for the government to spend money on things it otherwise is it legally allowed to. The massive amount of waste at the Pentagon. Give aways to "green" companies and other subsidies or over priced fat contracts that are nothing more than gratuitous kickbacks. Wasteful education spending while our children get dumber and dumber. Legitimate benefits fraud.
If you aren't willing to cut funds to the things and people that don't deserve it, don't come at me talking about maintaining it for the people that do. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Not anymore. Our fiscal situation doesn't allow for it. So if you ACTUALLY care about keeping these programs sustainable, admit we have massive waste elsewhere and lobby that we cut it. Otherwise your position is nonsensical.
I would prefer continuing to provide resources to those in genuine need over any of the above wasteful nonsense any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Which is why I advocate that we start cutting it, and cutting it now. And if it turns out both have to be cut, we should cut every bit of waste possible first and then see where we are at that point.