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fullback44 said:

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This is such a sad situation that this kid was having fun at a school athletics evident and this thug kid goes looking for trouble and stabs him. What a POS

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Agreed. And even with a conviction and full sentence justice won't be served.

KA deserves to get the same treatment he dealt.

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I was driving by Memorial Stadium that morning, saw all the cop cars and ambulance and thought some kid had a bad injury at an event.

Then got a text from my son telling me a kid got stabbed and killed. It's damn near impossible to find anyone in this town who doesn't already have an opinion on this.

AustinAg2K said:

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Im Gipper said:

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AgBQ-00 said:

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did get KAs coach to admit that if asked to leave another teams tent you are supposed to leave.

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Why would they need outside coaches for that?

The coach testified to that;

Prosecutor: "It shouldn't happen that one of your athletes ends up in another team's tent?"
Witness: "Yes, sir."
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Prosecutor: "You would expect someone asked to leave a tent to comply?"
Witness: "Yes."

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I talked to a friend of mine who is a track coach in the Houston area. He said the first part is wrong (at least in his experience ). Kids go into other schools tents all the time, especially the boys who are chasing girls. He did say, though, that he has to ask kids to leave all the time because they become a distraction and the kids always leave when asked. He also said he has to leave kids behind in the tent because otherwise kids will steal stuff.

I'm not at all trying to defend the kid. It just struck me as strange they would be saying kids never go into other tents, because that wasn't my experience in high school (we didn't have tents, but we had areas). Kids were always mingling with other kids and going to other schools areas. It was always a friendly environment, though, and it makes no sense that someone would need to bring a knife along with them. It also doesn't make sense the kid would stay as it sounds like he had no girls he was chasing or friends he was hanging out with in the tent.

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I hope the jury does not get off track like this discussion on TexAgs has. Whether or not he was supposed to be in the tent and whether or not it was raining has absolutely nothing to do with him pulling a knife and killing an innocent young man. If the jury gets bogged down like many here have then the State may have a problem.

That is what good attorneys do. They don't want the jury to focus on their client. They want the jury to focus on something that is not relevant to the actions of their client. My money is on the jury being smart enough to remain focused. And on Bill Wirskye to direct their focus during closing arguments.

If the kid did not intend to use the knife , he should have left it at home. He came to trackmeet looking to do harm.

AustinAg2K said:

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Im Gipper said:

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AgBQ-00 said:

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did get KAs coach to admit that if asked to leave another teams tent you are supposed to leave.

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Why would they need outside coaches for that?

The coach testified to that;

Prosecutor: "It shouldn't happen that one of your athletes ends up in another team's tent?"
Witness: "Yes, sir."
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Prosecutor: "You would expect someone asked to leave a tent to comply?"
Witness: "Yes."

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I talked to a friend of mine who is a track coach in the Houston area. He said the first part is wrong (at least in his experience ). Kids go into other schools tents all the time, especially the boys who are chasing girls. He did say, though, that he has to ask kids to leave all the time because they become a distraction and the kids always leave when asked. He also said he has to leave kids behind in the tent because otherwise kids will steal stuff.

I'm not at all trying to defend the kid. It just struck me as strange they would be saying kids never go into other tents, because that wasn't my experience in high school (we didn't have tents, but we had areas). Kids were always mingling with other kids and going to other schools areas. It was always a friendly environment, though, and it makes no sense that someone would need to bring a knife along with them. It also doesn't make sense the kid would stay as it sounds like he had no girls he was chasing or friends he was hanging out with in the tent.

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With kids they've never met?

Got a Natty! said:

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AustinAg2K said:

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Im Gipper said:

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AgBQ-00 said:

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did get KAs coach to admit that if asked to leave another teams tent you are supposed to leave.

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Why would they need outside coaches for that?

The coach testified to that;

Prosecutor: "It shouldn't happen that one of your athletes ends up in another team's tent?"
Witness: "Yes, sir."
...
Prosecutor: "You would expect someone asked to leave a tent to comply?"
Witness: "Yes."

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I talked to a friend of mine who is a track coach in the Houston area. He said the first part is wrong (at least in his experience ). Kids go into other schools tents all the time, especially the boys who are chasing girls. He did say, though, that he has to ask kids to leave all the time because they become a distraction and the kids always leave when asked. He also said he has to leave kids behind in the tent because otherwise kids will steal stuff.

I'm not at all trying to defend the kid. It just struck me as strange they would be saying kids never go into other tents, because that wasn't my experience in high school (we didn't have tents, but we had areas). Kids were always mingling with other kids and going to other schools areas. It was always a friendly environment, though, and it makes no sense that someone would need to bring a knife along with them. It also doesn't make sense the kid would stay as it sounds like he had no girls he was chasing or friends he was hanging out with in the tent.

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I hope the jury does not get off track like this discussion on TexAgs has. Whether or not he was supposed to be in the tent and whether or not it was raining has absolutely nothing to do with him pulling a knife and killing an innocent young man. If the jury gets bogged down like many here have then the State may have a problem.

That is what good attorneys do. They don't want the jury to focus on their client. They want the jury to focus on something that is not relevant to the actions of their client. My money is on the jury being smart enough to remain focused. And on Bill Wirskye to direct their focus during closing arguments.

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Kids are not allowed and don't bring weapons into track meets, unless you use the shot put or discus as a weapons, don't think that's been done. That's like bringing a gun to a party and shoot someone, your gonna get in big trouble

MsDoubleD81 said:

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Had to stop reading Sara Fields. Too much drama on her end.

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she is more into making it about her than just reporting.

@maryannreports is so much better. No drama

And how she's always exhausted. Everyone is there same amount of time. Just report about the trial.

Reginald Cousins said:

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AustinAg2K said:

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Im Gipper said:

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AgBQ-00 said:

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did get KAs coach to admit that if asked to leave another teams tent you are supposed to leave.

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Why would they need outside coaches for that?

The coach testified to that;

Prosecutor: "It shouldn't happen that one of your athletes ends up in another team's tent?"
Witness: "Yes, sir."
...
Prosecutor: "You would expect someone asked to leave a tent to comply?"
Witness: "Yes."

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I talked to a friend of mine who is a track coach in the Houston area. He said the first part is wrong (at least in his experience ). Kids go into other schools tents all the time, especially the boys who are chasing girls. He did say, though, that he has to ask kids to leave all the time because they become a distraction and the kids always leave when asked. He also said he has to leave kids behind in the tent because otherwise kids will steal stuff.

I'm not at all trying to defend the kid. It just struck me as strange they would be saying kids never go into other tents, because that wasn't my experience in high school (we didn't have tents, but we had areas). Kids were always mingling with other kids and going to other schools areas. It was always a friendly environment, though, and it makes no sense that someone would need to bring a knife along with them. It also doesn't make sense the kid would stay as it sounds like he had no girls he was chasing or friends he was hanging out with in the tent.

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With kids they've never met?

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I think it's important to keep all of the context in mind, and exactly how the question is asked if important.
Kids know each other. League sports, scouting, athletic camps, Church youth groups, etc.

Do all of those apply here? Certainly no.
Could some of them? Maybe
Does it mean that if you ask a very generalized andnon-specific question about athletes from other schools in the ten t the answer would be yes? Absolutely.

The cross was important. There WAS a kid there that did know KA. He testified that he "dabbed" him (pretty sure that's the driving your closed first down onto their, then their reciprocate their first down onto yours, followed by a first bump). Then he WAS asked to leave.

The coach DID say they have to ask kids to leave from time to time.

Heck when I swam I tried my shy hand at flirting with girls on the other team. No tents, but certainly in their "area" of the bleachers.

Cool. He knew one kid.

fullback44 said:

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Got a Natty! said:

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AustinAg2K said:

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Im Gipper said:

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AgBQ-00 said:

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did get KAs coach to admit that if asked to leave another teams tent you are supposed to leave.

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Why would they need outside coaches for that?

The coach testified to that;

Prosecutor: "It shouldn't happen that one of your athletes ends up in another team's tent?"
Witness: "Yes, sir."
...
Prosecutor: "You would expect someone asked to leave a tent to comply?"
Witness: "Yes."

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I talked to a friend of mine who is a track coach in the Houston area. He said the first part is wrong (at least in his experience ). Kids go into other schools tents all the time, especially the boys who are chasing girls. He did say, though, that he has to ask kids to leave all the time because they become a distraction and the kids always leave when asked. He also said he has to leave kids behind in the tent because otherwise kids will steal stuff.

I'm not at all trying to defend the kid. It just struck me as strange they would be saying kids never go into other tents, because that wasn't my experience in high school (we didn't have tents, but we had areas). Kids were always mingling with other kids and going to other schools areas. It was always a friendly environment, though, and it makes no sense that someone would need to bring a knife along with them. It also doesn't make sense the kid would stay as it sounds like he had no girls he was chasing or friends he was hanging out with in the tent.

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I hope the jury does not get off track like this discussion on TexAgs has. Whether or not he was supposed to be in the tent and whether or not it was raining has absolutely nothing to do with him pulling a knife and killing an innocent young man. If the jury gets bogged down like many here have then the State may have a problem.

That is what good attorneys do. They don't want the jury to focus on their client. They want the jury to focus on something that is not relevant to the actions of their client. My money is on the jury being smart enough to remain focused. And on Bill Wirskye to direct their focus during closing arguments.

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Kids are not allowed and don't bring weapons into track meets, unless you use the shot put or discus as a weapons, don't think that's been done. That's like bringing a gun to a party and shoot someone, your gonna get in big trouble

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You are making my point. If the jury sticks to what you said then justice will be served. But if there is an idiot or 2 on the jury, and all the idiot(s) want to talk about is the poor kid needing to stay in the tent because it was raining, then there could be a problem.

And sometimes jurors can get hung up on the most idiotic BS that had nothing to do with the real facts of the case. It can be maddening.

Got a Natty! said:

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I hope the jury does not get off track like this discussion on TexAgs has. Whether or not he was supposed to be in the tent and whether or not it was raining has absolutely nothing to do with him pulling a knife and killing an innocent young man.

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Yeah the tent deal is silly. No matter whether you should be under the tent or not, no matter what the rules are regarding team tents, no matter if it was raining or snowing, murdering someone because you were pushed or told to leave or called a name is not the appropriate response. He needlessly took a life and I wish the law was such that his could be taken. But I hope he gets a long, long time in prison and that it is a living hell for him.

Late to this thread so apologies if it has been discussed….

I've heard conflicting reports on if KA was competing that day or was just there. Anyone know which it is?

His coach testified yesterday that he was scheduled to compete in events later in the day

ProwessBold said:

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His coach testified yesterday that he was scheduled to compete in events later in the day

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But where were HIS teammates? Was he the only one from his school competing? Why wouldn't he be hanging out with them?

Defense rest tomorrow?

Branca is a lawyer and self-defense expert certified to testify in trials on legal justifications for self-defense. He thinks the trial is a complete disaster for the defense.

5Amp said:

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Defense rest tomorrow?

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If they do, defense counsel didn't have much of a defense. (Not that I think they had much anyway.)

But the judge had blocked off this entire week for this trial. It ends five days early?

Not sure what defense there is other than some expert to get up there and try to make it being accidental plausible. Maybe find some kids that saw less of it and only Austin appearing aggressive from their perspective

ShaggySLC said:

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DannyDuberstein said:

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If I'm the prosecutor, that is basically my opening argument, closing argument, and argument for the max punishment. Then sit my ass down and hope to see Collin jurors do right. 20 years ago I had the pleasure to sit on a Collin jury and send a Katrina refugee away for the max of 20 years for diddling a kid in the house that had taken him and his girlfriend in. Hope this jury delivers

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Katrina was one of the worst things to ever happen to Texas

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RIP Houston.

Branca really does know his s*** on self defense laws across the entire country.

think of the street cred you gain if you're a positive witness for KA

pressitup said:

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think of the street cred you gain if you're a positive witness for KA

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That can work both ways, though.

aggiehawg said:

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Branca really does know his s*** on self defense laws across the entire country.

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He certainly does, just watch that video around the 19 or 20 minute mark and it's absolutely cut and dried that Karmelo Anthony is guilty. I really don't see how the jury comes away with anything other than that finding.

I'm really curious if we see Anthony testify tomorrow. I think it's almost a necessity to have any shot. The only person who could tell the jury that he was afraid for his life will be him. In this case nobody else can.

It would be a Hail Mary. He would have to hold up on cross and the defense would have to hope the prosecutor goes too hard on him to make him look sympathetic.

Branca does bring up a point though that I think would hurt the state on it appeal (as long as it's preserved).

A lot of these witnesses for the prosecution were flat out asked if it was murder or self-defense. That's not really their conclusion to make. Seems like that's asking for a legal conclusion and improper testimony but I'm not any sort of legal expert. The reporters tweeting out the live testimony didn't mention objections but I have to assume they were made.

Crazy these accounts deflecting or defending murder because a whitey shouldn't be allowed to tell the kid to leave a space he wasn't supposed to be and wasn't welcome

So to be clear: you’re making the argument that if a white boy asks you to leave their space, you have the right to murder them?

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) June 7, 2026

Oh look...
It's the mental monkey Tariq again with another incredibly wrong take.

oh no said:

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Crazy these accounts deflecting or defending murder because a whitey shouldn't be allowed to tell the kid to leave a space he wasn't supposed to be and wasn't welcome

So to be clear: you’re making the argument that if a white boy asks you to leave their space, you have the right to murder them?

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) June 7, 2026

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For those of us who don't have the twitter and can't see the replies, does Tariq reply directly to Nick Sortor's comment?

If you just sign up for a free anonymous throw away X account and look at Tariq's recents posts, you'd want to throw up.

And yet he has nearly 400k followers and his Karamello Anthony sympathizing posts about KA's innocence or Austin Metcalf's fault get thousands of likes and reposts.

DannyDuberstein said:

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Not sure what defense there is other than some expert to get up there and try to make it being accidental plausible.

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Implying that Karmelo was just holding a knife in a mostly peaceful fashion when the victim ran up and impaled himself on it is such a patently ridiculous assertion that I would think it would just make the jury mad. But what do I know?

Speculation before the trial that this case was going to contain a lot of really bad facts for the defense appears to have been entirely accurate. I think the only plausible hope they had was to impanel one or two jurors who were so favorably disposed to the defendant that they would ignore the testimony and hang the jury, and then that maybe they could get a better plea instead of another trial. Guess we will see how that works out for them.

ErnestEndeavor said:

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Branca does bring up a point though that I think would hurt the state on it appeal (as long as it's preserved).

A lot of these witnesses for the prosecution were flat out asked if it was murder or self-defense. That's not really their conclusion to make. Seems like that's asking for a legal conclusion and improper testimony but I'm not any sort of legal expert. The reporters tweeting out the live testimony didn't mention objections but I have to assume they were made.

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I thought the same thing in reading the transcripts. He would say things like "you would say that's murder, correct?", which seems like an objectionable question on several levels. Not that I have any idea what I'm talking about.

is there any way the prosecution is asking that question to establish a "reasonable person" point of view?

They already went there on that theory with the ME based on the depth of the knife wound being less than the length of the knife, so I anticipate they may have somebody on their dime to help back that up. The ME said 1 in 1000 chance. Maybe they've found some credentialed yahoo to call it a better chance than that. But as far as potentially pissing off the jury, that ship has sailed - they are already working that theory. If they find some yahoo expert willing to say there is at least some chance + KA's statement "he's not going to die" (ie claim he didn't actively stab so he didn't think it was serious), that is one angle to play. Not saying it's a good one but there isn't a good one.

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Late to this thread so apologies if it has been discussed….

I've heard conflicting reports on if KA was competing that day or was just there. Anyone know which it is?

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Yes, he was competing in the murder competition. He got first place.

AustinAg2K said:

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nbbob said:

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Late to this thread so apologies if it has been discussed….

I've heard conflicting reports on if KA was competing that day or was just there. Anyone know which it is?

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Yes, he was competing in the murder competition. He got first place.

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I still find it surprising that a 0:57 was good enough in the 400M to qualify for the district meet in varsity. I'd be surprised if that was fast enough even for JV. I was looking up his times on athletic net and tx mile split to see what he even qualified for and there isn't much there.

I guess he really did have a top 8 district time in one of the events, but I couldn't find what event it might have been in.