nortex97 said:
I just don't think the conservative angst can stay this pegged
nortex97 said:
I just don't think the conservative angst can stay this pegged
Are you ******ed? It does not make two honky shlts what you or I do. There are more takers than makers now. It is done. Over. Finished. It is just math at this point. There will not be a change prior to the collapse.aTmAg said:You are acting like I THINK SS will cease to exist. I said it won't. Because of people like you.Tom Fox said:aTmAg said:And yet when that guy supports aggravating the damage, you blindly support it and bash the one guy pushing to actually mitigate it.Tom Fox said:My solution is to support the guy the US elected to mitigate the damage and expect those in his party to do the same.aTmAg said:So your solution is to bash the one guy who is actually fighting to do the right thing?Tom Fox said:aTmAg said:No I don't, because too many people like you are weak willed and refuse to support people who would actually have it happen. As this thread proves.Tom Fox said:
And yet you still didn't answer my question. Do you believe SS will be eliminated in the next 4 years? 8?
If not, what you want is a fantasy?
The only thing that will fix it is collapse.
You seem to not understand that there are more takers than makers now. Universal suffrage has boned us.
Now it's just math.
So smart.
Makes total sense.
Let's revisit this every 12/20 and see who was right on whether SS will continue to exist.
It will until one of three things changes. You're dead. I'm dead. The nation collapsed.
I'lll keep voting to keep more of my money until one of those occurs.
So we will come back every 12/20 and say "yep.. aTmAg was right. SS still exists because people like Tom Fox continue to attack the people like Chip Roy who want to scale it all back."
The only way for it to actually be scaled back is for people like you to stop being like you. Actually fight for a change. Maybe some day you will give that a shot.
Nobody cares about this any more. It was four years ago and everyone was still in the fog of the battle and it is irrelevant to the debate at hand.PA24 said:January 13, 2021aTmAg said:The fact that you call a guy who is more conservative than Cruz a "Lizzy republican" tells me all I need to know: You have no clue what is goingPA24 said:The sides are clearly defined. Democrats always, always stick together, right or wrong.aTmAg said:Dude won his district by 26 freaking points. He has no need to grandstand and will never lose his district as long as he feels like running.PA24 said:
Chip is grand standing.
No sense of awareness and will cost his district
He is one of the few guys in congress taking a principled stand. The fact that you fools oppose him shows why the GOP never win their policy desires.
Trust Trump or continue to bicker for the next 4 years.
Shutting down is a good thing but eventually an agreement must be passed and ol Roy probably screwed his district by becoming the spokes person for the Lizzy Republicans.
Let's watch and see how this plays out.
Press Release
WASHINGTON Rep. Chip Roy issued the following statement Wednesday evening:
It has come to my attention that a number of my colleagues are circulating calls for Liz Cheney to step down from, or to be removed as, Chair of the Republican Conference for her position in support of impeachment of the President. I reject this call, and offer my support.
While we reached a different conclusion on the vote regarding impeachment, as we have on other matters, Liz came to her conclusion based on the totality of the circumstances surrounding the President's actions leading to the events that occurred on January 6th, 2021. Liz viewed the articles as the sole vote in front of us, and that we did not get the chance to edit them. I viewed them as flawed in their structure because the focus on incitement is dangerous as constructed. But, one thing is clear: there can be little debate that, among other things, the President's pressure exerted on Vice President Pence to violate his oath, and the false hope it sent to emotionally charged supporters, was wrong, troubling, and impeachable.
Liz should be commended, not condemned, for standing up in defense of the Constitution and standing true to her
https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-roy-rejects-calls-remove-chairwoman-cheney-house-gop-leadership
Dude is a Lizzy Republican and like it or not.
Dude is been in Washington and crowing but doing nothing.
The ******ed one here is clearly you. We just saw the GOP yank a bill BECAUSE a bunch of voters demanded them do so. To pretend that people pressuring their congressmen doesn't matter is idiotic.Tom Fox said:Are you ******ed? It does not make two honky shlts what you or I do. There are more takers than makers now. It is done. Over. Finished. It is just math at this point. There will not be a change prior to the collapse.aTmAg said:You are acting like I THINK SS will cease to exist. I said it won't. Because of people like you.Tom Fox said:aTmAg said:And yet when that guy supports aggravating the damage, you blindly support it and bash the one guy pushing to actually mitigate it.Tom Fox said:My solution is to support the guy the US elected to mitigate the damage and expect those in his party to do the same.aTmAg said:So your solution is to bash the one guy who is actually fighting to do the right thing?Tom Fox said:aTmAg said:No I don't, because too many people like you are weak willed and refuse to support people who would actually have it happen. As this thread proves.Tom Fox said:
And yet you still didn't answer my question. Do you believe SS will be eliminated in the next 4 years? 8?
If not, what you want is a fantasy?
The only thing that will fix it is collapse.
You seem to not understand that there are more takers than makers now. Universal suffrage has boned us.
Now it's just math.
So smart.
Makes total sense.
Let's revisit this every 12/20 and see who was right on whether SS will continue to exist.
It will until one of three things changes. You're dead. I'm dead. The nation collapsed.
I'lll keep voting to keep more of my money until one of those occurs.
So we will come back every 12/20 and say "yep.. aTmAg was right. SS still exists because people like Tom Fox continue to attack the people like Chip Roy who want to scale it all back."
The only way for it to actually be scaled back is for people like you to stop being like you. Actually fight for a change. Maybe some day you will give that a shot.
I doubt you could even get 60% of F16 to agree to remove SS.
So continue to live in your fantasy world.
I just want to keep more of my money in the interim to make plans to take care of me and mine. I suggest you do the same.
Hopefully, the people that come out the other side will remember the mistakes made like universal suffrage and giving significant power to the central government.
Flagged cause you don't like the truth.Ag87H2O said:Nobody cares about this any more. It was four years ago and everyone was still in the fog of the battle and it is irrelevant to the debate at hand.PA24 said:January 13, 2021aTmAg said:The fact that you call a guy who is more conservative than Cruz a "Lizzy republican" tells me all I need to know: You have no clue what is goingPA24 said:The sides are clearly defined. Democrats always, always stick together, right or wrong.aTmAg said:Dude won his district by 26 freaking points. He has no need to grandstand and will never lose his district as long as he feels like running.PA24 said:
Chip is grand standing.
No sense of awareness and will cost his district
He is one of the few guys in congress taking a principled stand. The fact that you fools oppose him shows why the GOP never win their policy desires.
Trust Trump or continue to bicker for the next 4 years.
Shutting down is a good thing but eventually an agreement must be passed and ol Roy probably screwed his district by becoming the spokes person for the Lizzy Republicans.
Let's watch and see how this plays out.
Press Release
WASHINGTON Rep. Chip Roy issued the following statement Wednesday evening:
It has come to my attention that a number of my colleagues are circulating calls for Liz Cheney to step down from, or to be removed as, Chair of the Republican Conference for her position in support of impeachment of the President. I reject this call, and offer my support.
While we reached a different conclusion on the vote regarding impeachment, as we have on other matters, Liz came to her conclusion based on the totality of the circumstances surrounding the President's actions leading to the events that occurred on January 6th, 2021. Liz viewed the articles as the sole vote in front of us, and that we did not get the chance to edit them. I viewed them as flawed in their structure because the focus on incitement is dangerous as constructed. But, one thing is clear: there can be little debate that, among other things, the President's pressure exerted on Vice President Pence to violate his oath, and the false hope it sent to emotionally charged supporters, was wrong, troubling, and impeachable.
Liz should be commended, not condemned, for standing up in defense of the Constitution and standing true to her
https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-roy-rejects-calls-remove-chairwoman-cheney-house-gop-leadership
Dude is a Lizzy Republican and like it or not.
Dude is been in Washington and crowing but doing nothing.
Flagged for derailing.
Spend. Don't spend.aTmAg said:The ******ed one here is clearly you. We just saw the GOP yank a bill BECAUSE a bunch of voters demanded them do so. To pretend that people pressuring their congressmen doesn't matter is idiotic.Tom Fox said:Are you ******ed? It does not make two honky shlts what you or I do. There are more takers than makers now. It is done. Over. Finished. It is just math at this point. There will not be a change prior to the collapse.aTmAg said:You are acting like I THINK SS will cease to exist. I said it won't. Because of people like you.Tom Fox said:aTmAg said:And yet when that guy supports aggravating the damage, you blindly support it and bash the one guy pushing to actually mitigate it.Tom Fox said:My solution is to support the guy the US elected to mitigate the damage and expect those in his party to do the same.aTmAg said:So your solution is to bash the one guy who is actually fighting to do the right thing?Tom Fox said:aTmAg said:No I don't, because too many people like you are weak willed and refuse to support people who would actually have it happen. As this thread proves.Tom Fox said:
And yet you still didn't answer my question. Do you believe SS will be eliminated in the next 4 years? 8?
If not, what you want is a fantasy?
The only thing that will fix it is collapse.
You seem to not understand that there are more takers than makers now. Universal suffrage has boned us.
Now it's just math.
So smart.
Makes total sense.
Let's revisit this every 12/20 and see who was right on whether SS will continue to exist.
It will until one of three things changes. You're dead. I'm dead. The nation collapsed.
I'lll keep voting to keep more of my money until one of those occurs.
So we will come back every 12/20 and say "yep.. aTmAg was right. SS still exists because people like Tom Fox continue to attack the people like Chip Roy who want to scale it all back."
The only way for it to actually be scaled back is for people like you to stop being like you. Actually fight for a change. Maybe some day you will give that a shot.
I doubt you could even get 60% of F16 to agree to remove SS.
So continue to live in your fantasy world.
I just want to keep more of my money in the interim to make plans to take care of me and mine. I suggest you do the same.
Hopefully, the people that come out the other side will remember the mistakes made like universal suffrage and giving significant power to the central government.
Yet here you are pressuring the OTHER WAY. You are supporting the SPENDERS and then pretending to be conservative.
Wrong!!!! And stop with the name calling, shows how weak your position is.aTmAg said:The ******ed one here is clearly you. We just saw the GOP yank a bill BECAUSE a bunch of voters demanded them do so. To pretend that people pressuring their congressmen doesn't matter is idiotic.Tom Fox said:Are you ******ed? It does not make two honky shlts what you or I do. There are more takers than makers now. It is done. Over. Finished. It is just math at this point. There will not be a change prior to the collapse.aTmAg said:You are acting like I THINK SS will cease to exist. I said it won't. Because of people like you.Tom Fox said:aTmAg said:And yet when that guy supports aggravating the damage, you blindly support it and bash the one guy pushing to actually mitigate it.Tom Fox said:My solution is to support the guy the US elected to mitigate the damage and expect those in his party to do the same.aTmAg said:So your solution is to bash the one guy who is actually fighting to do the right thing?Tom Fox said:aTmAg said:No I don't, because too many people like you are weak willed and refuse to support people who would actually have it happen. As this thread proves.Tom Fox said:
And yet you still didn't answer my question. Do you believe SS will be eliminated in the next 4 years? 8?
If not, what you want is a fantasy?
The only thing that will fix it is collapse.
You seem to not understand that there are more takers than makers now. Universal suffrage has boned us.
Now it's just math.
So smart.
Makes total sense.
Let's revisit this every 12/20 and see who was right on whether SS will continue to exist.
It will until one of three things changes. You're dead. I'm dead. The nation collapsed.
I'lll keep voting to keep more of my money until one of those occurs.
So we will come back every 12/20 and say "yep.. aTmAg was right. SS still exists because people like Tom Fox continue to attack the people like Chip Roy who want to scale it all back."
The only way for it to actually be scaled back is for people like you to stop being like you. Actually fight for a change. Maybe some day you will give that a shot.
I doubt you could even get 60% of F16 to agree to remove SS.
So continue to live in your fantasy world.
I just want to keep more of my money in the interim to make plans to take care of me and mine. I suggest you do the same.
Hopefully, the people that come out the other side will remember the mistakes made like universal suffrage and giving significant power to the central government.
Yet here you are pressuring the OTHER WAY. You are supporting the SPENDERS and then pretending to be conservative.
PA24 said:
Flagged cause you don't like the truth.
He flagged me cause he doesn't like the truth, I didn't flag him.Logos Stick said:PA24 said:
Flagged cause you don't like the truth.
What in the cornbread hell?!
What matters is what happens after the collapse. We can either go left towards socialism or right towards free markets. If we do the former, then you and me are SCREWED. We need guys like Chip Roy who stand out from the crowd like Churchill who people can say "that guy was right the whole time." Not a uniparty where people can blame Trump for the catastrophe and take us hard left.Tom Fox said:Spend. Don't spend.aTmAg said:The ******ed one here is clearly you. We just saw the GOP yank a bill BECAUSE a bunch of voters demanded them do so. To pretend that people pressuring their congressmen doesn't matter is idiotic.Tom Fox said:Are you ******ed? It does not make two honky shlts what you or I do. There are more takers than makers now. It is done. Over. Finished. It is just math at this point. There will not be a change prior to the collapse.aTmAg said:You are acting like I THINK SS will cease to exist. I said it won't. Because of people like you.Tom Fox said:aTmAg said:And yet when that guy supports aggravating the damage, you blindly support it and bash the one guy pushing to actually mitigate it.Tom Fox said:My solution is to support the guy the US elected to mitigate the damage and expect those in his party to do the same.aTmAg said:So your solution is to bash the one guy who is actually fighting to do the right thing?Tom Fox said:aTmAg said:No I don't, because too many people like you are weak willed and refuse to support people who would actually have it happen. As this thread proves.Tom Fox said:
And yet you still didn't answer my question. Do you believe SS will be eliminated in the next 4 years? 8?
If not, what you want is a fantasy?
The only thing that will fix it is collapse.
You seem to not understand that there are more takers than makers now. Universal suffrage has boned us.
Now it's just math.
So smart.
Makes total sense.
Let's revisit this every 12/20 and see who was right on whether SS will continue to exist.
It will until one of three things changes. You're dead. I'm dead. The nation collapsed.
I'lll keep voting to keep more of my money until one of those occurs.
So we will come back every 12/20 and say "yep.. aTmAg was right. SS still exists because people like Tom Fox continue to attack the people like Chip Roy who want to scale it all back."
The only way for it to actually be scaled back is for people like you to stop being like you. Actually fight for a change. Maybe some day you will give that a shot.
I doubt you could even get 60% of F16 to agree to remove SS.
So continue to live in your fantasy world.
I just want to keep more of my money in the interim to make plans to take care of me and mine. I suggest you do the same.
Hopefully, the people that come out the other side will remember the mistakes made like universal suffrage and giving significant power to the central government.
Yet here you are pressuring the OTHER WAY. You are supporting the SPENDERS and then pretending to be conservative.
I just want to keep most of my money. You guys can fight over what gets cut and when. I do not believe the current system is salvageable.
Protect the bill of rights and let me keep what I earn. That's it.
And yanking a bill is not getting the votes to gut entitlements. Those same people will not agree over SS.
aTmAg said:What matters is what happens after the collapse. We can either go left towards socialism or right towards free markets. If we do the former, then you and me are SCREWED. We need guys like Chip Roy who stand out from the crowd like Churchill who people can say "that guy was right the whole time." Not a uniparty where people can blame Trump for the catastrophe and take us hard left.Tom Fox said:Spend. Don't spend.aTmAg said:The ******ed one here is clearly you. We just saw the GOP yank a bill BECAUSE a bunch of voters demanded them do so. To pretend that people pressuring their congressmen doesn't matter is idiotic.Tom Fox said:Are you ******ed? It does not make two honky shlts what you or I do. There are more takers than makers now. It is done. Over. Finished. It is just math at this point. There will not be a change prior to the collapse.aTmAg said:You are acting like I THINK SS will cease to exist. I said it won't. Because of people like you.Tom Fox said:aTmAg said:And yet when that guy supports aggravating the damage, you blindly support it and bash the one guy pushing to actually mitigate it.Tom Fox said:My solution is to support the guy the US elected to mitigate the damage and expect those in his party to do the same.aTmAg said:So your solution is to bash the one guy who is actually fighting to do the right thing?Tom Fox said:aTmAg said:No I don't, because too many people like you are weak willed and refuse to support people who would actually have it happen. As this thread proves.Tom Fox said:
And yet you still didn't answer my question. Do you believe SS will be eliminated in the next 4 years? 8?
If not, what you want is a fantasy?
The only thing that will fix it is collapse.
You seem to not understand that there are more takers than makers now. Universal suffrage has boned us.
Now it's just math.
So smart.
Makes total sense.
Let's revisit this every 12/20 and see who was right on whether SS will continue to exist.
It will until one of three things changes. You're dead. I'm dead. The nation collapsed.
I'lll keep voting to keep more of my money until one of those occurs.
So we will come back every 12/20 and say "yep.. aTmAg was right. SS still exists because people like Tom Fox continue to attack the people like Chip Roy who want to scale it all back."
The only way for it to actually be scaled back is for people like you to stop being like you. Actually fight for a change. Maybe some day you will give that a shot.
I doubt you could even get 60% of F16 to agree to remove SS.
So continue to live in your fantasy world.
I just want to keep more of my money in the interim to make plans to take care of me and mine. I suggest you do the same.
Hopefully, the people that come out the other side will remember the mistakes made like universal suffrage and giving significant power to the central government.
Yet here you are pressuring the OTHER WAY. You are supporting the SPENDERS and then pretending to be conservative.
I just want to keep most of my money. You guys can fight over what gets cut and when. I do not believe the current system is salvageable.
Protect the bill of rights and let me keep what I earn. That's it.
And yanking a bill is not getting the votes to gut entitlements. Those same people will not agree over SS.
LOL.. I literally responded to his insult in kind.PA24 said:Wrong!!!! And stop with the name calling, shows how weak your position is.aTmAg said:The ******ed one here is clearly you. We just saw the GOP yank a bill BECAUSE a bunch of voters demanded them do so. To pretend that people pressuring their congressmen doesn't matter is idiotic.Tom Fox said:Are you ******ed? It does not make two honky shlts what you or I do. There are more takers than makers now. It is done. Over. Finished. It is just math at this point. There will not be a change prior to the collapse.aTmAg said:You are acting like I THINK SS will cease to exist. I said it won't. Because of people like you.Tom Fox said:aTmAg said:And yet when that guy supports aggravating the damage, you blindly support it and bash the one guy pushing to actually mitigate it.Tom Fox said:My solution is to support the guy the US elected to mitigate the damage and expect those in his party to do the same.aTmAg said:So your solution is to bash the one guy who is actually fighting to do the right thing?Tom Fox said:aTmAg said:No I don't, because too many people like you are weak willed and refuse to support people who would actually have it happen. As this thread proves.Tom Fox said:
And yet you still didn't answer my question. Do you believe SS will be eliminated in the next 4 years? 8?
If not, what you want is a fantasy?
The only thing that will fix it is collapse.
You seem to not understand that there are more takers than makers now. Universal suffrage has boned us.
Now it's just math.
So smart.
Makes total sense.
Let's revisit this every 12/20 and see who was right on whether SS will continue to exist.
It will until one of three things changes. You're dead. I'm dead. The nation collapsed.
I'lll keep voting to keep more of my money until one of those occurs.
So we will come back every 12/20 and say "yep.. aTmAg was right. SS still exists because people like Tom Fox continue to attack the people like Chip Roy who want to scale it all back."
The only way for it to actually be scaled back is for people like you to stop being like you. Actually fight for a change. Maybe some day you will give that a shot.
I doubt you could even get 60% of F16 to agree to remove SS.
So continue to live in your fantasy world.
I just want to keep more of my money in the interim to make plans to take care of me and mine. I suggest you do the same.
Hopefully, the people that come out the other side will remember the mistakes made like universal suffrage and giving significant power to the central government.
Yet here you are pressuring the OTHER WAY. You are supporting the SPENDERS and then pretending to be conservative.
Elon put the spot light on that original bill. It would have passed if not for the DOGE leader. He backed the second plan and Roy decided to be the face of opposition, which is grandstanding and I said his district will pay for his selfish but stupid exposure. Why go on the tv circuit telling people how smart you are.
PA24 said:January 13, 2021aTmAg said:The fact that you call a guy who is more conservative than Cruz a "Lizzy republican" tells me all I need to know: You have no clue what is goingPA24 said:The sides are clearly defined. Democrats always, always stick together, right or wrong.aTmAg said:Dude won his district by 26 freaking points. He has no need to grandstand and will never lose his district as long as he feels like running.PA24 said:
Chip is grand standing.
No sense of awareness and will cost his district
He is one of the few guys in congress taking a principled stand. The fact that you fools oppose him shows why the GOP never win their policy desires.
Trust Trump or continue to bicker for the next 4 years.
Shutting down is a good thing but eventually an agreement must be passed and ol Roy probably screwed his district by becoming the spokes person for the Lizzy Republicans.
Let's watch and see how this plays out.
Press Release
WASHINGTON Rep. Chip Roy issued the following statement Wednesday evening:
It has come to my attention that a number of my colleagues are circulating calls for Liz Cheney to step down from, or to be removed as, Chair of the Republican Conference for her position in support of impeachment of the President. I reject this call, and offer my support.
While we reached a different conclusion on the vote regarding impeachment, as we have on other matters, Liz came to her conclusion based on the totality of the circumstances surrounding the President's actions leading to the events that occurred on January 6th, 2021. Liz viewed the articles as the sole vote in front of us, and that we did not get the chance to edit them. I viewed them as flawed in their structure because the focus on incitement is dangerous as constructed. But, one thing is clear: there can be little debate that, among other things, the President's pressure exerted on Vice President Pence to violate his oath, and the false hope it sent to emotionally charged supporters, was wrong, troubling, and impeachable.
Liz should be commended, not condemned, for standing up in defense of the Constitution and standing true to her
https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-roy-rejects-calls-remove-chairwoman-cheney-house-gop-leadership
Dude is a Lizzy Republican and like it or not.
Dude is been in Washington and crowing but doing nothing.
Because the RINOs you support do not support cutting spending. Is that supposed to be a dig at Roy? Or at yourself?MarkTwain said:PA24 said:January 13, 2021aTmAg said:The fact that you call a guy who is more conservative than Cruz a "Lizzy republican" tells me all I need to know: You have no clue what is goingPA24 said:The sides are clearly defined. Democrats always, always stick together, right or wrong.aTmAg said:Dude won his district by 26 freaking points. He has no need to grandstand and will never lose his district as long as he feels like running.PA24 said:
Chip is grand standing.
No sense of awareness and will cost his district
He is one of the few guys in congress taking a principled stand. The fact that you fools oppose him shows why the GOP never win their policy desires.
Trust Trump or continue to bicker for the next 4 years.
Shutting down is a good thing but eventually an agreement must be passed and ol Roy probably screwed his district by becoming the spokes person for the Lizzy Republicans.
Let's watch and see how this plays out.
Press Release
WASHINGTON Rep. Chip Roy issued the following statement Wednesday evening:
It has come to my attention that a number of my colleagues are circulating calls for Liz Cheney to step down from, or to be removed as, Chair of the Republican Conference for her position in support of impeachment of the President. I reject this call, and offer my support.
While we reached a different conclusion on the vote regarding impeachment, as we have on other matters, Liz came to her conclusion based on the totality of the circumstances surrounding the President's actions leading to the events that occurred on January 6th, 2021. Liz viewed the articles as the sole vote in front of us, and that we did not get the chance to edit them. I viewed them as flawed in their structure because the focus on incitement is dangerous as constructed. But, one thing is clear: there can be little debate that, among other things, the President's pressure exerted on Vice President Pence to violate his oath, and the false hope it sent to emotionally charged supporters, was wrong, troubling, and impeachable.
Liz should be commended, not condemned, for standing up in defense of the Constitution and standing true to her
https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-roy-rejects-calls-remove-chairwoman-cheney-house-gop-leadership
Dude is a Lizzy Republican and like it or not.
Dude is been in Washington and crowing but doing nothing.
I see you're finding out the Chip Royettes a dedicated bunch. If you really want to put them in a tailspin ask them to name a piece of legislation that Chip Roy wrote that ever amounted to something.
Reps like Roy are the reason establishment Rs like McCarthy are gone and Johnson is on thin ice.MarkTwain said:PA24 said:January 13, 2021aTmAg said:The fact that you call a guy who is more conservative than Cruz a "Lizzy republican" tells me all I need to know: You have no clue what is goingPA24 said:The sides are clearly defined. Democrats always, always stick together, right or wrong.aTmAg said:Dude won his district by 26 freaking points. He has no need to grandstand and will never lose his district as long as he feels like running.PA24 said:
Chip is grand standing.
No sense of awareness and will cost his district
He is one of the few guys in congress taking a principled stand. The fact that you fools oppose him shows why the GOP never win their policy desires.
Trust Trump or continue to bicker for the next 4 years.
Shutting down is a good thing but eventually an agreement must be passed and ol Roy probably screwed his district by becoming the spokes person for the Lizzy Republicans.
Let's watch and see how this plays out.
Press Release
WASHINGTON Rep. Chip Roy issued the following statement Wednesday evening:
It has come to my attention that a number of my colleagues are circulating calls for Liz Cheney to step down from, or to be removed as, Chair of the Republican Conference for her position in support of impeachment of the President. I reject this call, and offer my support.
While we reached a different conclusion on the vote regarding impeachment, as we have on other matters, Liz came to her conclusion based on the totality of the circumstances surrounding the President's actions leading to the events that occurred on January 6th, 2021. Liz viewed the articles as the sole vote in front of us, and that we did not get the chance to edit them. I viewed them as flawed in their structure because the focus on incitement is dangerous as constructed. But, one thing is clear: there can be little debate that, among other things, the President's pressure exerted on Vice President Pence to violate his oath, and the false hope it sent to emotionally charged supporters, was wrong, troubling, and impeachable.
Liz should be commended, not condemned, for standing up in defense of the Constitution and standing true to her
https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-roy-rejects-calls-remove-chairwoman-cheney-house-gop-leadership
Dude is a Lizzy Republican and like it or not.
Dude is been in Washington and crowing but doing nothing.
I see you're finding out the Chip Royettes a dedicated bunch. If you really want to put them in a tailspin ask them to name a piece of legislation that Chip Roy wrote that ever amounted to something.
aTmAg said:Because the RINOs you support do not support cutting spending. Is that supposed to be a dig at Roy? Or at yourself?MarkTwain said:PA24 said:January 13, 2021aTmAg said:The fact that you call a guy who is more conservative than Cruz a "Lizzy republican" tells me all I need to know: You have no clue what is goingPA24 said:The sides are clearly defined. Democrats always, always stick together, right or wrong.aTmAg said:Dude won his district by 26 freaking points. He has no need to grandstand and will never lose his district as long as he feels like running.PA24 said:
Chip is grand standing.
No sense of awareness and will cost his district
He is one of the few guys in congress taking a principled stand. The fact that you fools oppose him shows why the GOP never win their policy desires.
Trust Trump or continue to bicker for the next 4 years.
Shutting down is a good thing but eventually an agreement must be passed and ol Roy probably screwed his district by becoming the spokes person for the Lizzy Republicans.
Let's watch and see how this plays out.
Press Release
WASHINGTON Rep. Chip Roy issued the following statement Wednesday evening:
It has come to my attention that a number of my colleagues are circulating calls for Liz Cheney to step down from, or to be removed as, Chair of the Republican Conference for her position in support of impeachment of the President. I reject this call, and offer my support.
While we reached a different conclusion on the vote regarding impeachment, as we have on other matters, Liz came to her conclusion based on the totality of the circumstances surrounding the President's actions leading to the events that occurred on January 6th, 2021. Liz viewed the articles as the sole vote in front of us, and that we did not get the chance to edit them. I viewed them as flawed in their structure because the focus on incitement is dangerous as constructed. But, one thing is clear: there can be little debate that, among other things, the President's pressure exerted on Vice President Pence to violate his oath, and the false hope it sent to emotionally charged supporters, was wrong, troubling, and impeachable.
Liz should be commended, not condemned, for standing up in defense of the Constitution and standing true to her
https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-roy-rejects-calls-remove-chairwoman-cheney-house-gop-leadership
Dude is a Lizzy Republican and like it or not.
Dude is been in Washington and crowing but doing nothing.
I see you're finding out the Chip Royettes a dedicated bunch. If you really want to put them in a tailspin ask them to name a piece of legislation that Chip Roy wrote that ever amounted to something.
You are bashing one of the few actual conservatives in congress. What more do I need?MarkTwain said:aTmAg said:Because the RINOs you support do not support cutting spending. Is that supposed to be a dig at Roy? Or at yourself?MarkTwain said:PA24 said:January 13, 2021aTmAg said:The fact that you call a guy who is more conservative than Cruz a "Lizzy republican" tells me all I need to know: You have no clue what is goingPA24 said:The sides are clearly defined. Democrats always, always stick together, right or wrong.aTmAg said:Dude won his district by 26 freaking points. He has no need to grandstand and will never lose his district as long as he feels like running.PA24 said:
Chip is grand standing.
No sense of awareness and will cost his district
He is one of the few guys in congress taking a principled stand. The fact that you fools oppose him shows why the GOP never win their policy desires.
Trust Trump or continue to bicker for the next 4 years.
Shutting down is a good thing but eventually an agreement must be passed and ol Roy probably screwed his district by becoming the spokes person for the Lizzy Republicans.
Let's watch and see how this plays out.
Press Release
WASHINGTON Rep. Chip Roy issued the following statement Wednesday evening:
It has come to my attention that a number of my colleagues are circulating calls for Liz Cheney to step down from, or to be removed as, Chair of the Republican Conference for her position in support of impeachment of the President. I reject this call, and offer my support.
While we reached a different conclusion on the vote regarding impeachment, as we have on other matters, Liz came to her conclusion based on the totality of the circumstances surrounding the President's actions leading to the events that occurred on January 6th, 2021. Liz viewed the articles as the sole vote in front of us, and that we did not get the chance to edit them. I viewed them as flawed in their structure because the focus on incitement is dangerous as constructed. But, one thing is clear: there can be little debate that, among other things, the President's pressure exerted on Vice President Pence to violate his oath, and the false hope it sent to emotionally charged supporters, was wrong, troubling, and impeachable.
Liz should be commended, not condemned, for standing up in defense of the Constitution and standing true to her
https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-roy-rejects-calls-remove-chairwoman-cheney-house-gop-leadership
Dude is a Lizzy Republican and like it or not.
Dude is been in Washington and crowing but doing nothing.
I see you're finding out the Chip Royettes a dedicated bunch. If you really want to put them in a tailspin ask them to name a piece of legislation that Chip Roy wrote that ever amounted to something.
You have no idea who I support but feel free to think you do.
It takes a lot more than noisy speeches on the floor to impress me. You actually have to do something, walk the walk so to speak. Please have a Merry Christmas because come January 21 all debts will be paid
MarkTwain said:aTmAg said:Because the RINOs you support do not support cutting spending. Is that supposed to be a dig at Roy? Or at yourself?MarkTwain said:PA24 said:January 13, 2021aTmAg said:The fact that you call a guy who is more conservative than Cruz a "Lizzy republican" tells me all I need to know: You have no clue what is goingPA24 said:The sides are clearly defined. Democrats always, always stick together, right or wrong.aTmAg said:Dude won his district by 26 freaking points. He has no need to grandstand and will never lose his district as long as he feels like running.PA24 said:
Chip is grand standing.
No sense of awareness and will cost his district
He is one of the few guys in congress taking a principled stand. The fact that you fools oppose him shows why the GOP never win their policy desires.
Trust Trump or continue to bicker for the next 4 years.
Shutting down is a good thing but eventually an agreement must be passed and ol Roy probably screwed his district by becoming the spokes person for the Lizzy Republicans.
Let's watch and see how this plays out.
Press Release
WASHINGTON Rep. Chip Roy issued the following statement Wednesday evening:
It has come to my attention that a number of my colleagues are circulating calls for Liz Cheney to step down from, or to be removed as, Chair of the Republican Conference for her position in support of impeachment of the President. I reject this call, and offer my support.
While we reached a different conclusion on the vote regarding impeachment, as we have on other matters, Liz came to her conclusion based on the totality of the circumstances surrounding the President's actions leading to the events that occurred on January 6th, 2021. Liz viewed the articles as the sole vote in front of us, and that we did not get the chance to edit them. I viewed them as flawed in their structure because the focus on incitement is dangerous as constructed. But, one thing is clear: there can be little debate that, among other things, the President's pressure exerted on Vice President Pence to violate his oath, and the false hope it sent to emotionally charged supporters, was wrong, troubling, and impeachable.
Liz should be commended, not condemned, for standing up in defense of the Constitution and standing true to her
https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-roy-rejects-calls-remove-chairwoman-cheney-house-gop-leadership
Dude is a Lizzy Republican and like it or not.
Dude is been in Washington and crowing but doing nothing.
I see you're finding out the Chip Royettes a dedicated bunch. If you really want to put them in a tailspin ask them to name a piece of legislation that Chip Roy wrote that ever amounted to something.
You have no idea who I support but feel free to think you do.
It takes a lot more than noisy speeches on the floor to impress me. You actually have to do something, walk the walk so to speak. Please have a Merry Christmas because come January 21 all debts will be paid
On this third “funding” CR - progress having been made on future cuts/debt ceiling notwithstanding - I must vote no. $110bb unpaid-for, extension of food stamps with no reform, gimmicks to pay for health extenders, breaks 72 hour rule… More of the same.
— Chip Roy (@chiproytx) December 20, 2024
aTmAg said:You are bashing one of the few actual conservatives in congress. What more do I need?MarkTwain said:aTmAg said:Because the RINOs you support do not support cutting spending. Is that supposed to be a dig at Roy? Or at yourself?MarkTwain said:PA24 said:January 13, 2021aTmAg said:The fact that you call a guy who is more conservative than Cruz a "Lizzy republican" tells me all I need to know: You have no clue what is goingPA24 said:The sides are clearly defined. Democrats always, always stick together, right or wrong.aTmAg said:Dude won his district by 26 freaking points. He has no need to grandstand and will never lose his district as long as he feels like running.PA24 said:
Chip is grand standing.
No sense of awareness and will cost his district
He is one of the few guys in congress taking a principled stand. The fact that you fools oppose him shows why the GOP never win their policy desires.
Trust Trump or continue to bicker for the next 4 years.
Shutting down is a good thing but eventually an agreement must be passed and ol Roy probably screwed his district by becoming the spokes person for the Lizzy Republicans.
Let's watch and see how this plays out.
Press Release
WASHINGTON Rep. Chip Roy issued the following statement Wednesday evening:
It has come to my attention that a number of my colleagues are circulating calls for Liz Cheney to step down from, or to be removed as, Chair of the Republican Conference for her position in support of impeachment of the President. I reject this call, and offer my support.
While we reached a different conclusion on the vote regarding impeachment, as we have on other matters, Liz came to her conclusion based on the totality of the circumstances surrounding the President's actions leading to the events that occurred on January 6th, 2021. Liz viewed the articles as the sole vote in front of us, and that we did not get the chance to edit them. I viewed them as flawed in their structure because the focus on incitement is dangerous as constructed. But, one thing is clear: there can be little debate that, among other things, the President's pressure exerted on Vice President Pence to violate his oath, and the false hope it sent to emotionally charged supporters, was wrong, troubling, and impeachable.
Liz should be commended, not condemned, for standing up in defense of the Constitution and standing true to her
https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-roy-rejects-calls-remove-chairwoman-cheney-house-gop-leadership
Dude is a Lizzy Republican and like it or not.
Dude is been in Washington and crowing but doing nothing.
I see you're finding out the Chip Royettes a dedicated bunch. If you really want to put them in a tailspin ask them to name a piece of legislation that Chip Roy wrote that ever amounted to something.
You have no idea who I support but feel free to think you do.
It takes a lot more than noisy speeches on the floor to impress me. You actually have to do something, walk the walk so to speak. Please have a Merry Christmas because come January 21 all debts will be paid
f1ghtintexasaggie said:MarkTwain said:aTmAg said:Because the RINOs you support do not support cutting spending. Is that supposed to be a dig at Roy? Or at yourself?MarkTwain said:PA24 said:January 13, 2021aTmAg said:The fact that you call a guy who is more conservative than Cruz a "Lizzy republican" tells me all I need to know: You have no clue what is goingPA24 said:The sides are clearly defined. Democrats always, always stick together, right or wrong.aTmAg said:Dude won his district by 26 freaking points. He has no need to grandstand and will never lose his district as long as he feels like running.PA24 said:
Chip is grand standing.
No sense of awareness and will cost his district
He is one of the few guys in congress taking a principled stand. The fact that you fools oppose him shows why the GOP never win their policy desires.
Trust Trump or continue to bicker for the next 4 years.
Shutting down is a good thing but eventually an agreement must be passed and ol Roy probably screwed his district by becoming the spokes person for the Lizzy Republicans.
Let's watch and see how this plays out.
Press Release
WASHINGTON Rep. Chip Roy issued the following statement Wednesday evening:
It has come to my attention that a number of my colleagues are circulating calls for Liz Cheney to step down from, or to be removed as, Chair of the Republican Conference for her position in support of impeachment of the President. I reject this call, and offer my support.
While we reached a different conclusion on the vote regarding impeachment, as we have on other matters, Liz came to her conclusion based on the totality of the circumstances surrounding the President's actions leading to the events that occurred on January 6th, 2021. Liz viewed the articles as the sole vote in front of us, and that we did not get the chance to edit them. I viewed them as flawed in their structure because the focus on incitement is dangerous as constructed. But, one thing is clear: there can be little debate that, among other things, the President's pressure exerted on Vice President Pence to violate his oath, and the false hope it sent to emotionally charged supporters, was wrong, troubling, and impeachable.
Liz should be commended, not condemned, for standing up in defense of the Constitution and standing true to her
https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-roy-rejects-calls-remove-chairwoman-cheney-house-gop-leadership
Dude is a Lizzy Republican and like it or not.
Dude is been in Washington and crowing but doing nothing.
I see you're finding out the Chip Royettes a dedicated bunch. If you really want to put them in a tailspin ask them to name a piece of legislation that Chip Roy wrote that ever amounted to something.
You have no idea who I support but feel free to think you do.
It takes a lot more than noisy speeches on the floor to impress me. You actually have to do something, walk the walk so to speak. Please have a Merry Christmas because come January 21 all debts will be paid
The Feds found $36T to pay down the national debt??? Hey, that's good news! Somebody must have looked in the couch cushions.
He was a big reason this ridiculous spending bill was shot down. That is a larger contribution for conservationism than your beloved RINOs have done in their entire careers.MarkTwain said:aTmAg said:You are bashing one of the few actual conservatives in congress. What more do I need?MarkTwain said:aTmAg said:Because the RINOs you support do not support cutting spending. Is that supposed to be a dig at Roy? Or at yourself?MarkTwain said:PA24 said:January 13, 2021aTmAg said:The fact that you call a guy who is more conservative than Cruz a "Lizzy republican" tells me all I need to know: You have no clue what is goingPA24 said:The sides are clearly defined. Democrats always, always stick together, right or wrong.aTmAg said:Dude won his district by 26 freaking points. He has no need to grandstand and will never lose his district as long as he feels like running.PA24 said:
Chip is grand standing.
No sense of awareness and will cost his district
He is one of the few guys in congress taking a principled stand. The fact that you fools oppose him shows why the GOP never win their policy desires.
Trust Trump or continue to bicker for the next 4 years.
Shutting down is a good thing but eventually an agreement must be passed and ol Roy probably screwed his district by becoming the spokes person for the Lizzy Republicans.
Let's watch and see how this plays out.
Press Release
WASHINGTON Rep. Chip Roy issued the following statement Wednesday evening:
It has come to my attention that a number of my colleagues are circulating calls for Liz Cheney to step down from, or to be removed as, Chair of the Republican Conference for her position in support of impeachment of the President. I reject this call, and offer my support.
While we reached a different conclusion on the vote regarding impeachment, as we have on other matters, Liz came to her conclusion based on the totality of the circumstances surrounding the President's actions leading to the events that occurred on January 6th, 2021. Liz viewed the articles as the sole vote in front of us, and that we did not get the chance to edit them. I viewed them as flawed in their structure because the focus on incitement is dangerous as constructed. But, one thing is clear: there can be little debate that, among other things, the President's pressure exerted on Vice President Pence to violate his oath, and the false hope it sent to emotionally charged supporters, was wrong, troubling, and impeachable.
Liz should be commended, not condemned, for standing up in defense of the Constitution and standing true to her
https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-roy-rejects-calls-remove-chairwoman-cheney-house-gop-leadership
Dude is a Lizzy Republican and like it or not.
Dude is been in Washington and crowing but doing nothing.
I see you're finding out the Chip Royettes a dedicated bunch. If you really want to put them in a tailspin ask them to name a piece of legislation that Chip Roy wrote that ever amounted to something.
You have no idea who I support but feel free to think you do.
It takes a lot more than noisy speeches on the floor to impress me. You actually have to do something, walk the walk so to speak. Please have a Merry Christmas because come January 21 all debts will be paid
What more do you need? A better definition of conservative and a real lesson in civics. Chip Roy hasn't accomplished a damn thing in his tenure in DC. He makes big floor speeches and gets on TV but has zero to show for it other than money in his pocket.
And when you defend Liz Cheney you're not a true conservative end of story
aTmAg said:He was a big reason this ridiculous spending bill was shot down. That is a larger contribution for conservationism than your beloved RINOs have done in their entire careers.MarkTwain said:aTmAg said:You are bashing one of the few actual conservatives in congress. What more do I need?MarkTwain said:aTmAg said:Because the RINOs you support do not support cutting spending. Is that supposed to be a dig at Roy? Or at yourself?MarkTwain said:PA24 said:January 13, 2021aTmAg said:The fact that you call a guy who is more conservative than Cruz a "Lizzy republican" tells me all I need to know: You have no clue what is goingPA24 said:The sides are clearly defined. Democrats always, always stick together, right or wrong.aTmAg said:Dude won his district by 26 freaking points. He has no need to grandstand and will never lose his district as long as he feels like running.PA24 said:
Chip is grand standing.
No sense of awareness and will cost his district
He is one of the few guys in congress taking a principled stand. The fact that you fools oppose him shows why the GOP never win their policy desires.
Trust Trump or continue to bicker for the next 4 years.
Shutting down is a good thing but eventually an agreement must be passed and ol Roy probably screwed his district by becoming the spokes person for the Lizzy Republicans.
Let's watch and see how this plays out.
Press Release
WASHINGTON Rep. Chip Roy issued the following statement Wednesday evening:
It has come to my attention that a number of my colleagues are circulating calls for Liz Cheney to step down from, or to be removed as, Chair of the Republican Conference for her position in support of impeachment of the President. I reject this call, and offer my support.
While we reached a different conclusion on the vote regarding impeachment, as we have on other matters, Liz came to her conclusion based on the totality of the circumstances surrounding the President's actions leading to the events that occurred on January 6th, 2021. Liz viewed the articles as the sole vote in front of us, and that we did not get the chance to edit them. I viewed them as flawed in their structure because the focus on incitement is dangerous as constructed. But, one thing is clear: there can be little debate that, among other things, the President's pressure exerted on Vice President Pence to violate his oath, and the false hope it sent to emotionally charged supporters, was wrong, troubling, and impeachable.
Liz should be commended, not condemned, for standing up in defense of the Constitution and standing true to her
https://roy.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-roy-rejects-calls-remove-chairwoman-cheney-house-gop-leadership
Dude is a Lizzy Republican and like it or not.
Dude is been in Washington and crowing but doing nothing.
I see you're finding out the Chip Royettes a dedicated bunch. If you really want to put them in a tailspin ask them to name a piece of legislation that Chip Roy wrote that ever amounted to something.
You have no idea who I support but feel free to think you do.
It takes a lot more than noisy speeches on the floor to impress me. You actually have to do something, walk the walk so to speak. Please have a Merry Christmas because come January 21 all debts will be paid
What more do you need? A better definition of conservative and a real lesson in civics. Chip Roy hasn't accomplished a damn thing in his tenure in DC. He makes big floor speeches and gets on TV but has zero to show for it other than money in his pocket.
And when you defend Liz Cheney you're not a true conservative end of story
If there is ever a time to be shut down, it is now.Logos Stick said:
Chip says no to latest interation:On this third “funding” CR - progress having been made on future cuts/debt ceiling notwithstanding - I must vote no. $110bb unpaid-for, extension of food stamps with no reform, gimmicks to pay for health extenders, breaks 72 hour rule… More of the same.
— Chip Roy (@chiproytx) December 20, 2024
POLL: Do you support Congress shutting down the government to get a better plan to cut spending first? 👍Yes or 👎No
— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) December 20, 2024
*Explain your vote in comments
Currently at 85% for shutting it down (which is how I voted as well).Red Fishing Ag93 said:
What happened to all here who said they wanted to shut the government down?POLL: Do you support Congress shutting down the government to get a better plan to cut spending first? 👍Yes or 👎No
— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) December 20, 2024
*Explain your vote in comments
Disagree.aezmvp said:
Take the wins. Shutting everything down doesn't actually do anything. It all gets back paid with extra. Momentum is a thing and Trump has it. The GOP shouldn't have done the omnibus and that was a big win shutting that down. I get Roy's point and I understand why he's doing what he's doing but at a certain point it becomes counterproductive. We've reached that point.
Exactly. A history of authoring bills would probably just indicate your representative is good at growing government.Red Fishing Ag93 said:
I couldn't care less if my rep authored bills or not.
Most bills are trash anyway.