Trump attacking Chip Roy

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1:55p, 12/19/24
Dumb move on Trump's part. I guess the caucus is telling Trump no on a CR.

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2:01p, 12/19/24
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Yeah, Trump needs to shut up on this one. Sometimes he's his own worst enemy.

Chip Roy is generally a very good Representative. These are conversations that need to happen internally.
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2:07p, 12/19/24
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I'm not familiar with what was said by Chip on this one but in general I've largely been a big fan of his.
Surprised he wouldn't support letting it shut down to get BS out of spending bill
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2:22p, 12/19/24
Chip responds:

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In reply to ThreatLevel: Midnight • 2:26p, 12/19/24
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I'm not familiar with what was said by Chip on this one but in general I've largely been a big fan of his.
Surprised he wouldn't support letting it shut down to get BS out of spending bill


It's trump that doesn't want to let it shut down. Trump does a lot of good things, but he has no problem with spending
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In reply to ThreatLevel: Midnight • 2:27p, 12/19/24
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I'm not familiar with what was said by Chip on this one but in general I've largely been a big fan of his.
Surprised he wouldn't support letting it shut down to get BS out of spending bill


Chip doesn't care about shutting down the government. Trump wants an unlimited credit card. Chip who actually cares about the debt doesn't want it.
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2:28p, 12/19/24
Chip Roy is one of the most consistent hard right voices in Congress. Weird attack.
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In reply to The Banned • 2:29p, 12/19/24
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It's trump that doesn't want to let it shut down. Trump does a lot of good things, but he has no problem with spending
This is what is inevitably going to cause friction between Musk and Trump.
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2:31p, 12/19/24
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In other words, the King of Debt vs Fiscal Conservatism.
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In reply to Schrute Farms • 2:32p, 12/19/24
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Chip Roy is one of the most consistent hard right voices in Congress. Weird attack.
Not when you consider Chip Roy endorsed DeSantis in the primary. That's the actual rub here, not policy.
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In reply to Schrute Farms • 2:33p, 12/19/24
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Chip Roy is one of the most consistent hard right voices in Congress. Weird attack.
Trump thinks Roy is a RINO. strange indeed
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2:37p, 12/19/24
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Damn.
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2:46p, 12/19/24
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With Chip on this one.

Trump is gonna Trump. When you have a giant dick, you're going to trip over it every once in a while.
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In reply to eric76 • 2:48p, 12/19/24
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eric76 said:
In other words, the King of Debt vs Fiscal Conservatism.
Biden's debt is way more, so zip it.
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In reply to Phatbob • 2:49p, 12/19/24
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Schrute Farms said:
Chip Roy is one of the most consistent hard right voices in Congress. Weird attack.
Not when you consider Chip Roy endorsed DeSantis in the primary. That's the actual rub here, not policy.
DING DING DING

Trump is insecure, and anyone who doesn't worship him is in his out-group.
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2:50p, 12/19/24
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Trump is definitely a populist, not a conservative.

So is DOGE just window-dressing for another four years of massive spending?
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2:51p, 12/19/24
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Roy is popular in his district. Trump can't really threaten him there. All bluster, and wasteful of political capital.
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2:52p, 12/19/24
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I voted for Trump though wish the GOP nominee had been different. Was very supportive of Trump and glad he won the election, and not just because of the alternative.

However, this is bad Trump, VERY bad Trump. Chip Roy is what he should want EVERY GOP Rep. and Senator to be.

And I think it is a failing to read the tea leaves, the mandate he has / thinks he has, the support he had from across the country, most everyone that voted for him would want their Rep. or Senator to be in the mold of Chip Roy and not some quasi-conservative big government RINO.

I know Chip supported DeSantis initially, but once Trump was the nominee Chip supported him as the GOP ticket and has been one of the most critical and outspoken anti Biden/Harris people in Congress.

This is typical blustering Trump, and it should not have happened.
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In reply to 96AgGrad • 2:52p, 12/19/24
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Trump is definitely a populist, not a conservative.

So is DOGE just window-dressing for another four years of massive spending?
Rest assured that Elon's pet projects will receive all they're after.
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96AgGrad said:
Trump is definitely a populist, not a conservative.

So is DOGE just window-dressing for another four years of massive spending?
Rest assured that Elon's pet projects will receive all they're after.
Elon actually gets results for the money he spends. I'm more worried about the rest of the pork and the unsustainable entitlements.
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2:55p, 12/19/24
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Chip Roy is the best Congressman in Texas. He ain't going anywhere.
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In reply to Ag87H2O • 2:56p, 12/19/24
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Ag87H2O said:
Yeah, Trump needs to shut up on this one. Sometimes he's his own worst enemy.

Chip Roy is generally a very good Representative. These are conversations that need to happen internally.


Yes. Internally. Our foreign policy suffers from a similar excess of public declarations that limit space. Roy is one of the good ones and a talking past one another needs to cleared up off-stage.
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In reply to 96AgGrad • 2:56p, 12/19/24
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I don't think so, not if Vivek has his way, he wants to slash and burn, eliminate entire departments, move the vast majority out of D.C., and whittle the fat to the bone.
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2:57p, 12/19/24
Looks like they've got a new deal and Roy says NO:


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In reply to Aggie4Life02 • 2:57p, 12/19/24
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Chip Roy is the best Congressman in Texas. He ain't going anywhere.
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In reply to 96AgGrad • 2:57p, 12/19/24
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Trump is definitely a populist, not a conservative.

So is DOGE just window-dressing for another four years of massive spending?


The problem with cutting spending is that the vast majority goes to entitlements, which are almost impossible to get the votes to reform. You can trim around the edges, but you won't really make a dent unless you get into SS and Medicare. DOGE seems more like a watchdog for spending that doesn't align with the values of the American people and should be a good tool for rooting out corrupt pork.

So at best, I would expect a stagnation of the growth in spending with an emphasis on cutting the corrupt waste.
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3:02p, 12/19/24
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Republican controlled federal government is planning to increase the debt by $4T in the next 2 years.
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In reply to Kvetch • 3:03p, 12/19/24
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Only guessing, but I doubt it's entitlements and defense Roy wants to see cuts on. I think he wants to see a meaningful reduction in discretionary spending and may also a defunding of other pork projects already on the books....well, I guess that discretionary.
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3:05p, 12/19/24
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raise or suspend the debt ceiling (racking up more debt) without significant & real spending cuts attached to it. I've been negotiating to that end. No apologies.


Can't you let Elon come up with some cuts? You do realize Trump is not in office yet.

Also, list the cuts you have recommended. TIA
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3:07p, 12/19/24
I will not be surprised to see Trump attack Elon at some point on Truth Social. I fully expect it. He and Elon do not see eye to eye on spending and where we are as a country. There will be some good stuff done under Trump, but we are headed for financial disaster under him.
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In reply to Science Denier • 3:08p, 12/19/24
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raise or suspend the debt ceiling (racking up more debt) without significant & real spending cuts attached to it. I've been negotiating to that end. No apologies.


Can't you let Elon come up with some cuts? You do realize Trump is not in office yet.

Also, list the cuts you have recommended. TIA
You do realize he actually IS part of the group that comes up with actual budgets, not Elon, right?
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In reply to Ag87H2O • 3:08p, 12/19/24
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Ag87H2O said:
Yeah, Trump needs to shut up on this one. Sometimes he's his own worst enemy.

Chip Roy is generally a very good Representative. These are conversations that need to happen internally.



Trump wears his thoughts on his sleeve. That is what people love about him. All you DeSantis people go on complaining. That battle is over.
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In reply to Logos Stick • 3:09p, 12/19/24
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Chip responds:

This is the principled conservative (and responsible) position.
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In reply to Phatbob • 3:10p, 12/19/24
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Phatbob said:
Science Denier said:
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raise or suspend the debt ceiling (racking up more debt) without significant & real spending cuts attached to it. I've been negotiating to that end. No apologies.


Can't you let Elon come up with some cuts? You do realize Trump is not in office yet.

Also, list the cuts you have recommended. TIA
You do realize he actually IS part of the group that comes up with actual budgets, not Elon, right?


So, what has he come up with? Shutting down the government at this point is dumb. You can get what you want when the R's control all branches of government in a month.
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In reply to Science Denier • 3:11p, 12/19/24
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Phatbob said:
Science Denier said:
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raise or suspend the debt ceiling (racking up more debt) without significant & real spending cuts attached to it. I've been negotiating to that end. No apologies.


Can't you let Elon come up with some cuts? You do realize Trump is not in office yet.

Also, list the cuts you have recommended. TIA
You do realize he actually IS part of the group that comes up with actual budgets, not Elon, right?


So, what has he come up with? Shutting down the government at this point is dumb. You can get what you want when the R's control all branches of government in a month.
Shutting the gov down as ZERO effect on Americans. Do it
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