I hate the government and want transparency as much as anyone, but, hypothetically, if the theories that they are monitoring for radioactivity/potential WMD were true, I could see why they wouldn't be completely forthcoming. Also a few other potential scenarios where hiding the truth might be somewhat justified.
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Meh...FobTies said:Esteban du Plantier said:FobTies said:Gator92 said:🚨#BREAKING: The NYPD has discovered a massive drone amid spate of sightings in tri-state area
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New York police recovered a massive drone abandoned in the Brooklyn Navy Yard. A video shows an NYPD officer holding the large aircraft, which appears to… pic.twitter.com/Ouc8CElM7v
Is this satire?
"Massive" "large aircraft"
That's a pretty damned big drone.
For private recreational, maybe. But not for military drills or adversary spying.
Or even commercial purposes.
There are numerous companies that make UAS that size.
Well how did the government" think people would react when they saw all this bizarre **** in the sky?El Gallo Blanco said:
I hate the government and want transparency as much as anyone, but, hypothetically, if the theories that they are monitoring for radioactivity/potential WMD were true, I could see why they wouldn't be completely forthcoming. Also a few other potential scenarios where hiding the truth might be somewhat justified.
They didn't think that far ahead?
Hiding the truth behind this drone/light show, means a cover story or lie. And how would the lie make Americans feel? anxious? I doubt we're near the truth.
All this time we were saying "I hope they don't do something irresponsible like putting AI in a fighter jet or bomber".
They said "we're not going to do that", while developing drones and will eventually be AI.
They said "we're not going to do that", while developing drones and will eventually be AI.
Well…you sounded taller on radio.
General Jack D. Ripper said:
All this time we were saying "I hope they don't do something irresponsible like putting AI in a fighter jet or bomber".
They said "we're not going to do that", while developing drones and will eventually be AI.
A company called Shield AI has been working on this for close to ten years now.
They've already proven AI piloted drones, both large (surveillance type) and small (think individual spec ops) and an f16 dog fighting.
This is one company and technology we should be grateful is on our side, led by the United States. One of the founders was a Naval Academy graduate and Navy Seal.
Yeah, it's really a bit terrifying if AI goes off the rails or handlers are evil. And you really wonder if even moral and ethical people can handle such technology for multiple generations without corruption? But it's where we are, and we will need it to maintain a war fighting advantage
And then we'll need it up to fight the rogue AI we created but behaved unexpectedly.
If it came across the border, the current admin would want to hide that forever.
Keep watching the jingling keys while the pick pockets fleece you elsewhere
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Ag with kids said:What kind?bangobango said:Somebody on my neighborhood facebook group posted about a drone flying over the neighborhood yesterday.Joes said:
I still think there's a ton of circular nonsense to at least most of this and it's perpetuating itself. The vast majority of people have no skill identifying what they're looking at in the sky, especially at night. And once this became a story weeks ago there has been an exponential increase in the number of people actively looking and paying attention. And every balloon, plane, kite, helicopter, blimp, drone, planet, and blinking tower on a hill has now become "Oh my gosh, they're over my house, too!!!" on social media and so the news says the number of sightings has been increasing everywhere, which causes even more now-worried but generally ignorant people to go and look.
The only "interesting" ones seemed to have involved things like gunfire and other things now shown to have been faked, or else anecdotes like 50 coming in off the ocean which may be true but where we have nothing to look at.
It's funny b/c I know who the guy is and he's a neighbor of mine. And I flew my drone over the neighborhood all summer and not one person noticed.
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Eek!!!bangobango said:Ag with kids said:What kind?bangobango said:Somebody on my neighborhood facebook group posted about a drone flying over the neighborhood yesterday.Joes said:
I still think there's a ton of circular nonsense to at least most of this and it's perpetuating itself. The vast majority of people have no skill identifying what they're looking at in the sky, especially at night. And once this became a story weeks ago there has been an exponential increase in the number of people actively looking and paying attention. And every balloon, plane, kite, helicopter, blimp, drone, planet, and blinking tower on a hill has now become "Oh my gosh, they're over my house, too!!!" on social media and so the news says the number of sightings has been increasing everywhere, which causes even more now-worried but generally ignorant people to go and look.
The only "interesting" ones seemed to have involved things like gunfire and other things now shown to have been faked, or else anecdotes like 50 coming in off the ocean which may be true but where we have nothing to look at.
It's funny b/c I know who the guy is and he's a neighbor of mine. And I flew my drone over the neighborhood all summer and not one person noticed.
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I think it's either normal approved drones that some witnesses are making false hysteria out of, or it's military testing drones for night time urban ops.
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I don't know a single person who is freaking out over these drones to be honest. It doesn't seem to be on many peoples' radar, aside from casual curiosity, like is being displayed on here for the most part.Texas velvet maestro said:Well how did the government" think people would react when they saw all this bizarre **** in the sky?El Gallo Blanco said:
I hate the government and want transparency as much as anyone, but, hypothetically, if the theories that they are monitoring for radioactivity/potential WMD were true, I could see why they wouldn't be completely forthcoming. Also a few other potential scenarios where hiding the truth might be somewhat justified.
They didn't think that far ahead?
Hiding the truth behind this drone/light show, means a cover story or lie. And how would the lie make Americans feel? anxious? I doubt we're near the truth.
Now if it were released that they were sweeping large areas because of some type of imminent terrorist threat/WMD detection etc., you would have that entire side of the country, and much more, freaking the hell out.
All that said, I don't trust the govt one bit and this is probably them.
I honestly feel like if this was happening pre-Covid, people would be losing their sh**...panic across the country. But we are so conditioned to crazy sh** over the last 4 years that it's almost like "okay, what's next in this weird movie?" to most people.
I was firmly in the curiosity camp until I saw this clip.
Frankly this is why I hate Trump. If you know something, just freaking say it. Quit playing coy and insinuating that there is something nefarious going on. It's insulting......
President-elect Trump on drones: "The government knows what is happening. Look, our military knows where they took off from. If it's a garage they can go right into that garage. They know where it came from and where it went. For some reason they don't want to comment." pic.twitter.com/JdITHAv4KJ
— CSPAN (@cspan) December 16, 2024
He's not in position to. He's getting intel briefings but he's not President so he can't declassify anything
He's not in office and doesn't have authority to release that info. He's literally calling for those in power to release this info and you hate this?
Yukon Cornelius said:
He's not in position to. He's getting intel briefings but he's not President so he can't declassify anything
Always with the excuses for him........
Is the storm finally coming? Are the white hats finally going to reveal their hand and take down the deep state? Trust the 4D Chess plan, right?
It's not an excuse it's just reality. He legally can't.
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Krombopulos Michael said:
I was firmly in the curiosity camp until I saw this clip.
Frankly this is why I hate Trump. If you know something, just freaking say it. Quit playing coy and insinuating that there is something nefarious going on. It's insulting......President-elect Trump on drones: "The government knows what is happening. Look, our military knows where they took off from. If it's a garage they can go right into that garage. They know where it came from and where it went. For some reason they don't want to comment." pic.twitter.com/JdITHAv4KJ
— CSPAN (@cspan) December 16, 2024
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Yukon Cornelius said:
It's not an excuse it's just reality. He legally can't.
ALWAYS AN EXCUSE.....
What is the current admin going to do to a former President and the current President Elect going to do if he does disclose something 30 days prior to "officially" taking office?
It's not like he's got to go through another classified background check......
The problem is that it is likely classified and he is not President yet and as such can't declassify it. So he has to be somewhat circumspect.
TDS on full display
Always holding him to an unrealistic standard.Krombopulos Michael said:Yukon Cornelius said:
He's not in position to. He's getting intel briefings but he's not President so he can't declassify anything
Always with the excuses for him........
He'd be criminally charged in a second if he stated what he knows.
I have never met someone who HATES Trump for such a silly, petty reason. And I know plenty of brainwashed soccer moms who hate him because he says mean things.Krombopulos Michael said:
I was firmly in the curiosity camp until I saw this clip.
Frankly this is why I hate Trump. If you know something, just freaking say it. Quit playing coy and insinuating that there is something nefarious going on. It's insulting......President-elect Trump on drones: "The government knows what is happening. Look, our military knows where they took off from. If it's a garage they can go right into that garage. They know where it came from and where it went. For some reason they don't want to comment." pic.twitter.com/JdITHAv4KJ
— CSPAN (@cspan) December 16, 2024
I still don't know what to make of it all. I haven't seen any singular video or picture that makes me say "Wow, what is that???" They're not dragons, or Star Destroyers, or fork-tailed devils, they're just typical drones and planes and helicopters with standard navigation lights. It's like a bunch of people spontaneously said "Wow, I never noticed that so much stuff is flying over us all the time." And that news caused more people to look, and then more people. But all I see (so far) is the same stuff that's always there. But it's not like I've seen every video so maybe I'm missing something. If nothing else it's an interesting study of human behavior. And if there's more to it then I'll be curious about that too, and I'm continuing to follow it.El Gallo Blanco said:I don't know a single person who is freaking out over these drones to be honest. It doesn't seem to be on many peoples' radar, aside from casual curiosity, like is being displayed on here for the most part.Texas velvet maestro said:Well how did the government" think people would react when they saw all this bizarre **** in the sky?El Gallo Blanco said:
I hate the government and want transparency as much as anyone, but, hypothetically, if the theories that they are monitoring for radioactivity/potential WMD were true, I could see why they wouldn't be completely forthcoming. Also a few other potential scenarios where hiding the truth might be somewhat justified.
They didn't think that far ahead?
Hiding the truth behind this drone/light show, means a cover story or lie. And how would the lie make Americans feel? anxious? I doubt we're near the truth.
Now if it were released that they were sweeping large areas because of some type of imminent terrorist threat/WMD detection etc., you would have that entire side of the country, and much more, freaking the hell out.
All that said, I don't trust the govt one bit and this is probably them.
Krombopulos Michael said:Yukon Cornelius said:
It's not an excuse it's just reality. He legally can't.
ALWAYS AN EXCUSE.....
What is the current admin going to do to a former President and the current President Elect going to do if he does disclose something 30 days prior to "officially" taking office?
Probably raid and ransack his home, prosecute him, book him, perp walk, etc.
We've seen this movie.
Are they going to spy on him coming into office, are they going to perpetrate a baseless and conspiratorial "Russia Hoax" on him, then do everything they can to hurt/derail him or sabotage his presidency? Are they going to try to take his wealth? Jail him? ASSASSINATE him? Are the feds and intel community going to conspire with big tech and the media to interfere in a presidential election in hopes of propping up their preferred candidate? NEWSFLASH: ALL OF THAT HAPPENED.Krombopulos Michael said:Yukon Cornelius said:
He's not in position to. He's getting intel briefings but he's not President so he can't declassify anything
Always with the excuses for him........
Is the storm finally coming? Are the white hats finally going to reveal their hand and take down the deep state? Trust the 4D Chess plan, right?
So much unprecedented crap that makes Watergate look like youth group shenanigans. You act like none of this stuff transpired over the last 8 yrs. Maybe go suck your thumb and read "Gender Queer". Sorry your girl lost.
LMAO. What will the current admin do to him if he illegally releases classified information that he can't?Krombopulos Michael said:Yukon Cornelius said:
It's not an excuse it's just reality. He legally can't.
ALWAYS AN EXCUSE.....
What is the current admin going to do to a former President and the current President Elect going to do if he does disclose something 30 days prior to "officially" taking office?
It's not like he's got to go through another classified background check......
Have you seen the lawfare launched on him. Felony for a bookkeeping mistake? Hundred million lawsuit because he didn't value his insanely high value property at $14 million dollars?
Really. What would they do to him is what you ask?
That's funny right there.
When was "it" classified? Can the government classify the actions of other governments or companies? If it is classified doesn't that tell you who is behind it?
I have only ever seen tiny little toy handheld drones in real life. These are significantly bigger. Also, it is not normal for politicians and news radio people to be addressing toy drones flown by enthusiasts here and there?Joes said:I still don't know what to make of it all. I haven't seen any singular video or picture that makes me say "Wow, what is that???" They're not dragons, or Star Destroyers, or fork-tailed devils, they're just typical drones and planes and helicopters with standard navigation lights. It's like a bunch of people spontaneously said "Wow, I never noticed that so much stuff is flying over us all the time." And that news caused more people to look, and then more people. But all I see (so far) is the same stuff that's always there. But it's not like I've seen every video so maybe I'm missing something. If nothing else it's an interesting study of human behavior. And if there's more to it then I'll be curious about that too, and I'm continuing to follow it.El Gallo Blanco said:I don't know a single person who is freaking out over these drones to be honest. It doesn't seem to be on many peoples' radar, aside from casual curiosity, like is being displayed on here for the most part.Texas velvet maestro said:Well how did the government" think people would react when they saw all this bizarre **** in the sky?El Gallo Blanco said:
I hate the government and want transparency as much as anyone, but, hypothetically, if the theories that they are monitoring for radioactivity/potential WMD were true, I could see why they wouldn't be completely forthcoming. Also a few other potential scenarios where hiding the truth might be somewhat justified.
They didn't think that far ahead?
Hiding the truth behind this drone/light show, means a cover story or lie. And how would the lie make Americans feel? anxious? I doubt we're near the truth.
Now if it were released that they were sweeping large areas because of some type of imminent terrorist threat/WMD detection etc., you would have that entire side of the country, and much more, freaking the hell out.
All that said, I don't trust the govt one bit and this is probably them.
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Completely agree. Just because we don't have and haven't had a real POTUS for several years does not allow for Trump to take over today. It was a stupid comment to make that Trump has to be the truth bearer right now. Imagine the wailing and crying if the actually did something. "you can't do that, you aren't president. Insurrection".aezmvp said:
The problem is that it is likely classified and he is not President yet and as such can't declassify it. So he has to be somewhat circumspect.
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They are probably planting some false information (told only to him) in his classified briefings just to hope he leaks it so they can then open a fresh investigation/FISA 702 approvals on all of his associates etc.El Gallo Blanco said:Are they going to spy on him coming into office, are they going to perpetrate a baseless and conspiratorial "Russia Hoax" on him, then do everything they can to hurt/derail him or sabotage his presidency? Are they going to try to take his wealth? Jail him? ASSASSINATE him? Are the feds and intel community going to conspire with big tech and the media to interfere in a presidential election in hopes of propping up their preferred candidate? NEWSFLASH: ALL OF THAT HAPPENED.Krombopulos Michael said:Yukon Cornelius said:
He's not in position to. He's getting intel briefings but he's not President so he can't declassify anything
Always with the excuses for him........
Is the storm finally coming? Are the white hats finally going to reveal their hand and take down the deep state? Trust the 4D Chess plan, right?
So much unprecedented crap that makes Watergate look like youth group shenanigans. You act like none of this stuff transpired over the last 8 yrs. Maybe go suck your thumb and read "Gender Queer". Sorry your girl lost.
I get that. I'm just not sure yet they are bigger. How are people able to tell they're 8 feet across instead of 3 feet across in the dark from a mile away? I don't think they're toys, but there is an enormous amount of crap in the air at all times. Like I said, I'm not saying nothing unusual is going on, maybe there is, I have no way to know that, I just don't seem to be seeing what everyone else is so far. I'm curious to see what I'm missing though.El Gallo Blanco said:I have only ever seen tiny little toy handheld drones in real life. These are significantly bigger. Also, it is not normal for politicians and news radio people to be addressing toy drones flown by enthusiasts here and there.Joes said:I still don't know what to make of it all. I haven't seen any singular video or picture that makes me say "Wow, what is that???" They're not dragons, or Star Destroyers, or fork-tailed devils, they're just typical drones and planes and helicopters with standard navigation lights. It's like a bunch of people spontaneously said "Wow, I never noticed that so much stuff is flying over us all the time." And that news caused more people to look, and then more people. But all I see (so far) is the same stuff that's always there. But it's not like I've seen every video so maybe I'm missing something. If nothing else it's an interesting study of human behavior. And if there's more to it then I'll be curious about that too, and I'm continuing to follow it.El Gallo Blanco said:I don't know a single person who is freaking out over these drones to be honest. It doesn't seem to be on many peoples' radar, aside from casual curiosity, like is being displayed on here for the most part.Texas velvet maestro said:Well how did the government" think people would react when they saw all this bizarre **** in the sky?El Gallo Blanco said:
I hate the government and want transparency as much as anyone, but, hypothetically, if the theories that they are monitoring for radioactivity/potential WMD were true, I could see why they wouldn't be completely forthcoming. Also a few other potential scenarios where hiding the truth might be somewhat justified.
They didn't think that far ahead?
Hiding the truth behind this drone/light show, means a cover story or lie. And how would the lie make Americans feel? anxious? I doubt we're near the truth.
Now if it were released that they were sweeping large areas because of some type of imminent terrorist threat/WMD detection etc., you would have that entire side of the country, and much more, freaking the hell out.
All that said, I don't trust the govt one bit and this is probably them.
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