Uh, then in the near future the democRats win and they have absolute power ??? Not me. Bad idea.Tom Fox said:To be clear. I am completey comfortable with Trump having absolute power over the DOJ and DHS.The Banned said:Tom Fox said:You don't give a **** about what other Senators think except that it aligns with how YOU think. You are substituting yours and others judgment for Trumps. That is a no go this time. Trump get his people either through the Senate or by recess appointment.The Banned said:Tom Fox said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:twk said:Not quite.Quote:
None of this BS matters. It is who Trump wants. He gets who he wants and Republicans need to fall in line and vote along party lines.US Constitution, Article II, Section 2Quote:
[The President] shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law
To paraphrase Brendan Sullivan (Oliver North's attorney), the Senate is not a potted plant. They are not there merely to rubber stamp every appointment Trump makes. No doubt, the vast majority will be approved, but Gaetz looks to be the rare exception (probably the only exception of the ones announced so far).
Trump won in a landslide. The Republicans should confirm Donald Duck if Trump asks them to do so.
And do you want a Republican form of government where each state's representatives do the will of their state, or one where one man calls all the shots?
To be honest, I like most of trumps picks but Gaetz is one I don't like. If Cruz or cornyn voted against him, it wouldn't bother me. If they think he's good to go, I'm fine with that too. If crux or cornyn were too scared to tell Trump no, that would be a problem.
Look the AG is Trump's most important pick from his perspective.
He got F'd over by his 2 picks his 1st term and then the dems confirmed Garland who spent 4 years engaged in lawfare against Trump and supporting liberal state prosecutors doing the same.
The dems started the weaponization of the DOJ with Obama and Holder.
I'm glad you like the other picks but Trump gets HIS guy in the DOJ. End of story.
I get that, but Matt Gaetz as AG isn't like some allstar pick. There are other people loyal to Trump that can do just as good of a job, if not better. If (and right now it's still an if) Gaetz did the things he's accused of, it's fair for senators to have reservations and asking politicians to blindly give Trump what he wants is a step too far for me.
Then have Trump and Elon primary any Republican that opposes Trump's selections.
So, to be clear: you are ok with Trump having full and complete authority to run the government however he and he alone see fit? I see no room for other opinions in the view stated above.
I said he was an all star pick and you are trying to suggest I said he is the greatest pick ever. That isn't a serious conversation, you are just trolling.The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:No idea but you're resorting to hyperbolic suggestions that I didn't say so I suspect you're just trolling or not a serious person.The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:twk said:Not quite.Quote:
None of this BS matters. It is who Trump wants. He gets who he wants and Republicans need to fall in line and vote along party lines.US Constitution, Article II, Section 2Quote:
[The President] shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law
To paraphrase Brendan Sullivan (Oliver North's attorney), the Senate is not a potted plant. They are not there merely to rubber stamp every appointment Trump makes. No doubt, the vast majority will be approved, but Gaetz looks to be the rare exception (probably the only exception of the ones announced so far).
Trump won in a landslide. The Republicans should confirm Donald Duck if Trump asks them to do so.
And do you want a Republican form of government where each state's representatives do the will of their state, or one where one man calls all the shots?
To be honest, I like most of trumps picks but Gaetz is one I don't like. If Cruz or cornyn voted against him, it wouldn't bother me. If they think he's good to go, I'm fine with that too. If crux or cornyn were too scared to tell Trump no, that would be a problem.
Look the AG is Trump's most important pick from his perspective.
He got F'd over by his 2 picks his 1st term and then the dems confirmed Garland who spent 4 years engaged in lawfare against Trump and supporting liberal state prosecutors doing the same.
The dems started the weaponization of the DOJ with Obama and Holder.
I'm glad you like the other picks but Trump gets HIS guy in the DOJ. End of story.
I get that, but Matt Gaetz as AG isn't like some allstar pick. There are other people loyal to Trump that can do just as good of a job, if not better. If (and right now it's still an if) Gaetz did the things he's accused of, it's fair for senators to have reservations and asking politicians to blindly give Trump what he wants is a step too far for me.
He's definitely an all star pick.
How? Because he hates the establishment? There are other guys out there that hate the establishment too and they have more discipline than Gaetz does. What else has Gaetz shown that makes anyone think he's the one and only best option for AG?
If Gaetz become AG, then fine. We'll see how it goes. I'm not staunchly against him, but the idea that one man should have the power to do whatever he wants because he won by a lot is the inverse of how we should want our government run.
No because he has demonstrated he goes after the establishment, doesn't take bribes and funding from the typical swap sources, is loyal to trump, and feared enough by the enemy to have been ****ed with non stop through his entire legislative career.... kind of like another guy that just won the Presidency.
Oh and despite what you read and what you think, he's sharp as a tack.
So in your opinion, no one else out there exists that could do better than him? He is truly the best option for AG?
What's hyperbolic? Several of yall seem to be having a meltdown at one pick getting some pushback. What is the fear? If there are others equal to or better than Gaetz, what is the fear of him being denied outside of Trump not getting everything he wants?
What crimes have stuck to Gaetz?Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
Trumps "crimes" compared to what Gaetz is accused of are night and day.
Tom Fox said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:This is idiotic. Of course there is. But this is the dude that Trump wants. My god, Trump has 34 felony convictions. Do you think the actual voters care about Gaetz's background. This is political creatures and the mushy Republicans doing what they always do.The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:twk said:Not quite.Quote:
None of this BS matters. It is who Trump wants. He gets who he wants and Republicans need to fall in line and vote along party lines.US Constitution, Article II, Section 2Quote:
[The President] shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law
To paraphrase Brendan Sullivan (Oliver North's attorney), the Senate is not a potted plant. They are not there merely to rubber stamp every appointment Trump makes. No doubt, the vast majority will be approved, but Gaetz looks to be the rare exception (probably the only exception of the ones announced so far).
Trump won in a landslide. The Republicans should confirm Donald Duck if Trump asks them to do so.
And do you want a Republican form of government where each state's representatives do the will of their state, or one where one man calls all the shots?
To be honest, I like most of trumps picks but Gaetz is one I don't like. If Cruz or cornyn voted against him, it wouldn't bother me. If they think he's good to go, I'm fine with that too. If crux or cornyn were too scared to tell Trump no, that would be a problem.
Look the AG is Trump's most important pick from his perspective.
He got F'd over by his 2 picks his 1st term and then the dems confirmed Garland who spent 4 years engaged in lawfare against Trump and supporting liberal state prosecutors doing the same.
The dems started the weaponization of the DOJ with Obama and Holder.
I'm glad you like the other picks but Trump gets HIS guy in the DOJ. End of story.
I get that, but Matt Gaetz as AG isn't like some allstar pick. There are other people loyal to Trump that can do just as good of a job, if not better. If (and right now it's still an if) Gaetz did the things he's accused of, it's fair for senators to have reservations and asking politicians to blindly give Trump what he wants is a step too far for me.
He's definitely an all star pick.
How? Because he hates the establishment? There are other guys out there that hate the establishment too and they have more discipline than Gaetz does. What else has Gaetz shown that makes anyone think he's the one and only best option for AG?
If Gaetz become AG, then fine. We'll see how it goes. I'm not staunchly against him, but the idea that one man should have the power to do whatever he wants because he won by a lot is the inverse of how we should want our government run.
No because he has demonstrated he goes after the establishment, doesn't take bribes and funding from the typical swap sources, is loyal to trump, and feared enough by the enemy to have been ****ed with non stop through his entire legislative career.... kind of like another guy that just won the Presidency.
Oh and despite what you read and what you think, he's sharp as a tack.
So in your opinion, no one else out there exists that could do better than him? He is truly the best option for AG?
The dems never have this issue.
Honestly, I would rather just cuts out the centrist Republicans from the party. Other than votes, they are a net negative once we have actual power. I'd rather just ballot harvest from Bubba and the rednecks and cut you guys.
I'm literally advocating for less power concentrated with the president, you are advocating for what amounts to total power in the hands of the president, and somehow I'm the centrist? That makes no sense.
You can check my posting history. You will not find me advocate for one position that is not conservative enough to get me labeled "far right" by the MSM
I get that you want to stick it to the Dems, but just because they want their president to act like a dictator doesn't mean we should.
I'm fine with gutting the power of the feds. You can't do that without amendments. That will never happen.
The dems will wield the power of the executive unchecked when they are in power. What you want is ideal but will never happen.
We need to plunge the sword of the executive up to the hilt in their chests.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
Trumps "crimes" compared to what Gaetz is accused of are night and day.
Tom Kazansky 2012 said:I said he was an all star pick and you are trying to suggest I said he is the greatest pick ever. That isn't a serious conversation, you are just trolling.The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:No idea but you're resorting to hyperbolic suggestions that I didn't say so I suspect you're just trolling or not a serious person.The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:twk said:Not quite.Quote:
None of this BS matters. It is who Trump wants. He gets who he wants and Republicans need to fall in line and vote along party lines.US Constitution, Article II, Section 2Quote:
[The President] shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law
To paraphrase Brendan Sullivan (Oliver North's attorney), the Senate is not a potted plant. They are not there merely to rubber stamp every appointment Trump makes. No doubt, the vast majority will be approved, but Gaetz looks to be the rare exception (probably the only exception of the ones announced so far).
Trump won in a landslide. The Republicans should confirm Donald Duck if Trump asks them to do so.
And do you want a Republican form of government where each state's representatives do the will of their state, or one where one man calls all the shots?
To be honest, I like most of trumps picks but Gaetz is one I don't like. If Cruz or cornyn voted against him, it wouldn't bother me. If they think he's good to go, I'm fine with that too. If crux or cornyn were too scared to tell Trump no, that would be a problem.
Look the AG is Trump's most important pick from his perspective.
He got F'd over by his 2 picks his 1st term and then the dems confirmed Garland who spent 4 years engaged in lawfare against Trump and supporting liberal state prosecutors doing the same.
The dems started the weaponization of the DOJ with Obama and Holder.
I'm glad you like the other picks but Trump gets HIS guy in the DOJ. End of story.
I get that, but Matt Gaetz as AG isn't like some allstar pick. There are other people loyal to Trump that can do just as good of a job, if not better. If (and right now it's still an if) Gaetz did the things he's accused of, it's fair for senators to have reservations and asking politicians to blindly give Trump what he wants is a step too far for me.
He's definitely an all star pick.
How? Because he hates the establishment? There are other guys out there that hate the establishment too and they have more discipline than Gaetz does. What else has Gaetz shown that makes anyone think he's the one and only best option for AG?
If Gaetz become AG, then fine. We'll see how it goes. I'm not staunchly against him, but the idea that one man should have the power to do whatever he wants because he won by a lot is the inverse of how we should want our government run.
No because he has demonstrated he goes after the establishment, doesn't take bribes and funding from the typical swap sources, is loyal to trump, and feared enough by the enemy to have been ****ed with non stop through his entire legislative career.... kind of like another guy that just won the Presidency.
Oh and despite what you read and what you think, he's sharp as a tack.
So in your opinion, no one else out there exists that could do better than him? He is truly the best option for AG?
What's hyperbolic? Several of yall seem to be having a meltdown at one pick getting some pushback. What is the fear? If there are others equal to or better than Gaetz, what is the fear of him being denied outside of Trump not getting everything he wants?
Who knows how good he will be? but he checks every single box.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
Trumps "crimes" compared to what Gaetz is accused of are night and day.
SeeThe Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:I said he was an all star pick and you are trying to suggest I said he is the greatest pick ever. That isn't a serious conversation, you are just trolling.The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:No idea but you're resorting to hyperbolic suggestions that I didn't say so I suspect you're just trolling or not a serious person.The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:twk said:Not quite.Quote:
None of this BS matters. It is who Trump wants. He gets who he wants and Republicans need to fall in line and vote along party lines.US Constitution, Article II, Section 2Quote:
[The President] shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law
To paraphrase Brendan Sullivan (Oliver North's attorney), the Senate is not a potted plant. They are not there merely to rubber stamp every appointment Trump makes. No doubt, the vast majority will be approved, but Gaetz looks to be the rare exception (probably the only exception of the ones announced so far).
Trump won in a landslide. The Republicans should confirm Donald Duck if Trump asks them to do so.
And do you want a Republican form of government where each state's representatives do the will of their state, or one where one man calls all the shots?
To be honest, I like most of trumps picks but Gaetz is one I don't like. If Cruz or cornyn voted against him, it wouldn't bother me. If they think he's good to go, I'm fine with that too. If crux or cornyn were too scared to tell Trump no, that would be a problem.
Look the AG is Trump's most important pick from his perspective.
He got F'd over by his 2 picks his 1st term and then the dems confirmed Garland who spent 4 years engaged in lawfare against Trump and supporting liberal state prosecutors doing the same.
The dems started the weaponization of the DOJ with Obama and Holder.
I'm glad you like the other picks but Trump gets HIS guy in the DOJ. End of story.
I get that, but Matt Gaetz as AG isn't like some allstar pick. There are other people loyal to Trump that can do just as good of a job, if not better. If (and right now it's still an if) Gaetz did the things he's accused of, it's fair for senators to have reservations and asking politicians to blindly give Trump what he wants is a step too far for me.
He's definitely an all star pick.
How? Because he hates the establishment? There are other guys out there that hate the establishment too and they have more discipline than Gaetz does. What else has Gaetz shown that makes anyone think he's the one and only best option for AG?
If Gaetz become AG, then fine. We'll see how it goes. I'm not staunchly against him, but the idea that one man should have the power to do whatever he wants because he won by a lot is the inverse of how we should want our government run.
No because he has demonstrated he goes after the establishment, doesn't take bribes and funding from the typical swap sources, is loyal to trump, and feared enough by the enemy to have been ****ed with non stop through his entire legislative career.... kind of like another guy that just won the Presidency.
Oh and despite what you read and what you think, he's sharp as a tack.
So in your opinion, no one else out there exists that could do better than him? He is truly the best option for AG?
What's hyperbolic? Several of yall seem to be having a meltdown at one pick getting some pushback. What is the fear? If there are others equal to or better than Gaetz, what is the fear of him being denied outside of Trump not getting everything he wants?
Who knows how good he will be? but he checks every single box.
You didn't answer the question? If other good options exist, why is Gaetz such a monumental deal?
The Banned said:Tom Fox said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:This is idiotic. Of course there is. But this is the dude that Trump wants. My god, Trump has 34 felony convictions. Do you think the actual voters care about Gaetz's background. This is political creatures and the mushy Republicans doing what they always do.The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:twk said:Not quite.Quote:
None of this BS matters. It is who Trump wants. He gets who he wants and Republicans need to fall in line and vote along party lines.US Constitution, Article II, Section 2Quote:
[The President] shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law
To paraphrase Brendan Sullivan (Oliver North's attorney), the Senate is not a potted plant. They are not there merely to rubber stamp every appointment Trump makes. No doubt, the vast majority will be approved, but Gaetz looks to be the rare exception (probably the only exception of the ones announced so far).
Trump won in a landslide. The Republicans should confirm Donald Duck if Trump asks them to do so.
And do you want a Republican form of government where each state's representatives do the will of their state, or one where one man calls all the shots?
To be honest, I like most of trumps picks but Gaetz is one I don't like. If Cruz or cornyn voted against him, it wouldn't bother me. If they think he's good to go, I'm fine with that too. If crux or cornyn were too scared to tell Trump no, that would be a problem.
Look the AG is Trump's most important pick from his perspective.
He got F'd over by his 2 picks his 1st term and then the dems confirmed Garland who spent 4 years engaged in lawfare against Trump and supporting liberal state prosecutors doing the same.
The dems started the weaponization of the DOJ with Obama and Holder.
I'm glad you like the other picks but Trump gets HIS guy in the DOJ. End of story.
I get that, but Matt Gaetz as AG isn't like some allstar pick. There are other people loyal to Trump that can do just as good of a job, if not better. If (and right now it's still an if) Gaetz did the things he's accused of, it's fair for senators to have reservations and asking politicians to blindly give Trump what he wants is a step too far for me.
He's definitely an all star pick.
How? Because he hates the establishment? There are other guys out there that hate the establishment too and they have more discipline than Gaetz does. What else has Gaetz shown that makes anyone think he's the one and only best option for AG?
If Gaetz become AG, then fine. We'll see how it goes. I'm not staunchly against him, but the idea that one man should have the power to do whatever he wants because he won by a lot is the inverse of how we should want our government run.
No because he has demonstrated he goes after the establishment, doesn't take bribes and funding from the typical swap sources, is loyal to trump, and feared enough by the enemy to have been ****ed with non stop through his entire legislative career.... kind of like another guy that just won the Presidency.
Oh and despite what you read and what you think, he's sharp as a tack.
So in your opinion, no one else out there exists that could do better than him? He is truly the best option for AG?
The dems never have this issue.
Honestly, I would rather just cuts out the centrist Republicans from the party. Other than votes, they are a net negative once we have actual power. I'd rather just ballot harvest from Bubba and the rednecks and cut you guys.
I'm literally advocating for less power concentrated with the president, you are advocating for what amounts to total power in the hands of the president, and somehow I'm the centrist? That makes no sense.
You can check my posting history. You will not find me advocate for one position that is not conservative enough to get me labeled "far right" by the MSM
I get that you want to stick it to the Dems, but just because they want their president to act like a dictator doesn't mean we should.
I'm fine with gutting the power of the feds. You can't do that without amendments. That will never happen.
The dems will wield the power of the executive unchecked when they are in power. What you want is ideal but will never happen.
We need to plunge the sword of the executive up to the hilt in their chests.
I dont want to say something you don't believe, so I'll ask this instead: how does this differ from a true monarch/dictator?
Yeah they did. And they should have gotten their balls busted, Nobody needs to have that kind of revolving door power. it would destabilize everything. Business and international relations dont like instability.AgBQ-00 said:
They already do. Or did you miss all the political trials and the no fly list for political opponents
His opinion, your opinion, and my opinion are irrelevant. Trump nominated Gaetz. It's his right to nominate who he wants, and the Senate can vote to confirm or deny. I just want them to base their vote on verifiable facts, not something they hear in the Democrat led legacy media, or some unverifiable rumors based supposed reports from unnamed sources. And whether or not you like someone should not play into the decision. If he is legally able to serve, Republicans should vote for Gaetz.The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:twk said:Not quite.Quote:
None of this BS matters. It is who Trump wants. He gets who he wants and Republicans need to fall in line and vote along party lines.US Constitution, Article II, Section 2Quote:
[The President] shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law
To paraphrase Brendan Sullivan (Oliver North's attorney), the Senate is not a potted plant. They are not there merely to rubber stamp every appointment Trump makes. No doubt, the vast majority will be approved, but Gaetz looks to be the rare exception (probably the only exception of the ones announced so far).
Trump won in a landslide. The Republicans should confirm Donald Duck if Trump asks them to do so.
And do you want a Republican form of government where each state's representatives do the will of their state, or one where one man calls all the shots?
To be honest, I like most of trumps picks but Gaetz is one I don't like. If Cruz or cornyn voted against him, it wouldn't bother me. If they think he's good to go, I'm fine with that too. If crux or cornyn were too scared to tell Trump no, that would be a problem.
Look the AG is Trump's most important pick from his perspective.
He got F'd over by his 2 picks his 1st term and then the dems confirmed Garland who spent 4 years engaged in lawfare against Trump and supporting liberal state prosecutors doing the same.
The dems started the weaponization of the DOJ with Obama and Holder.
I'm glad you like the other picks but Trump gets HIS guy in the DOJ. End of story.
I get that, but Matt Gaetz as AG isn't like some allstar pick. There are other people loyal to Trump that can do just as good of a job, if not better. If (and right now it's still an if) Gaetz did the things he's accused of, it's fair for senators to have reservations and asking politicians to blindly give Trump what he wants is a step too far for me.
He's definitely an all star pick.
How? Because he hates the establishment? There are other guys out there that hate the establishment too and they have more discipline than Gaetz does. What else has Gaetz shown that makes anyone think he's the one and only best option for AG?
If Gaetz become AG, then fine. We'll see how it goes. I'm not staunchly against him, but the idea that one man should have the power to do whatever he wants because he won by a lot is the inverse of how we should want our government run.
No because he has demonstrated he goes after the establishment, doesn't take bribes and funding from the typical swap sources, is loyal to trump, and feared enough by the enemy to have been ****ed with non stop through his entire legislative career.... kind of like another guy that just won the Presidency.
Oh and despite what you read and what you think, he's sharp as a tack.
So in your opinion, no one else out there exists that could do better than him? He is truly the best option for AG?
Ag87H2O said:His opinion, your opinion, and my opinion are irrelevant. Trump nominated Gaetz. It's his right to nominate who he wants, and the Senate can vote to confirm or deny. I just want them to base their vote on verifiable facts, not something they hear in the Democrat led legacy media, or some unverifiable rumors based supposed reports from unnamed sources. And whether or not you like someone should not play into the decision. If he is legally able to serve, Republicans should vote for Gaetz.The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:twk said:Not quite.Quote:
None of this BS matters. It is who Trump wants. He gets who he wants and Republicans need to fall in line and vote along party lines.US Constitution, Article II, Section 2Quote:
[The President] shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law
To paraphrase Brendan Sullivan (Oliver North's attorney), the Senate is not a potted plant. They are not there merely to rubber stamp every appointment Trump makes. No doubt, the vast majority will be approved, but Gaetz looks to be the rare exception (probably the only exception of the ones announced so far).
Trump won in a landslide. The Republicans should confirm Donald Duck if Trump asks them to do so.
And do you want a Republican form of government where each state's representatives do the will of their state, or one where one man calls all the shots?
To be honest, I like most of trumps picks but Gaetz is one I don't like. If Cruz or cornyn voted against him, it wouldn't bother me. If they think he's good to go, I'm fine with that too. If crux or cornyn were too scared to tell Trump no, that would be a problem.
Look the AG is Trump's most important pick from his perspective.
He got F'd over by his 2 picks his 1st term and then the dems confirmed Garland who spent 4 years engaged in lawfare against Trump and supporting liberal state prosecutors doing the same.
The dems started the weaponization of the DOJ with Obama and Holder.
I'm glad you like the other picks but Trump gets HIS guy in the DOJ. End of story.
I get that, but Matt Gaetz as AG isn't like some allstar pick. There are other people loyal to Trump that can do just as good of a job, if not better. If (and right now it's still an if) Gaetz did the things he's accused of, it's fair for senators to have reservations and asking politicians to blindly give Trump what he wants is a step too far for me.
He's definitely an all star pick.
How? Because he hates the establishment? There are other guys out there that hate the establishment too and they have more discipline than Gaetz does. What else has Gaetz shown that makes anyone think he's the one and only best option for AG?
If Gaetz become AG, then fine. We'll see how it goes. I'm not staunchly against him, but the idea that one man should have the power to do whatever he wants because he won by a lot is the inverse of how we should want our government run.
No because he has demonstrated he goes after the establishment, doesn't take bribes and funding from the typical swap sources, is loyal to trump, and feared enough by the enemy to have been ****ed with non stop through his entire legislative career.... kind of like another guy that just won the Presidency.
Oh and despite what you read and what you think, he's sharp as a tack.
So in your opinion, no one else out there exists that could do better than him? He is truly the best option for AG?
Hell, I remember when most of the Republicans complaining and threatening to withold support for Gaetz gladly voted for Merrick Garland four years ago so Biden, the democratically elected president, could have his pick. Square that circle.
Hearsay and media reports....that is considered proof here. Also if it comes from someones Twitter or Instagram account. There is enough concern that even Johnson, who 2 days ago said the speaker should not be at all involved in influencing an Ethics Committee's decision to release a report, is now saying he does not want it released bc it's "irrelevant". McCarthy knew exactly what was going on and Gaetz called the vote on him. Do I have proof in hand? Would it matter? People will just claim it was manufactured, or part of the deep state. The decision already been made in some peoples mind that either its all BS or that even if its true they don't care because acknowledging it some how gives points to the left. Most won't be interested in the Ethics report which allegedly has proof. But I'm sure people will believe as proof the other post that claimed a jail house snitch said it was all made up. Proof these last 8 years is only in the eye of the beholder.Ag87H2O said:Do you have proof, other than hearsay and legacy media reports, that any of it is true?BluHorseShu said:Not to worry. Even if it is, people will out right call it a hoax/witch hunt etc and claim it was doctored simply for the fear that if they acknowledge that its not good it somehow gives the Dems a win. Either that or they'll downplay it as not nearly as bad as the Dems people. People seem to be more and more dismissive of the importance of character, and think there won't be any repercussions.HumpitPuryear said:FireAg said:will25u said:REPORT: The “damaging” ethics report on Matt Gaetz is set to “leak” soon.
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 14, 2024
It was supposed to remain under wraps because he is no longer a congressman. https://t.co/OPHONgXP6B
It's been 3 hours since this tweet…where's the leak?
And if something is "leaked", how do we know it's THE report?
And if it is THE report, how do we know the "evidence" in there isn't as valid as the Steele Dossier?
Again, some of yall are so hungry to see someone fail, you'll believe anything that fits your narrative…
Oh boy I hope this isn't as sensational and damaging as the Trump tax returns!
The last thing I want is for this administration to screw the pooch because of selecting knowingly bad choices and then things go south and it it becomes a gift for the Dems campaign in 4 years.
Are we that short on quality people....or is it just enough to see the left freak out and nothing could really go wrong?
Tom Fox said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:This is idiotic. Of course there is. But this is the dude that Trump wants. My god, Trump has 34 felony convictions. Do you think the actual voters care about Gaetz's background. This is political creatures and the mushy Republicans doing what they always do.The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Kazansky 2012 said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:The Banned said:Tom Fox said:twk said:Not quite.Quote:
None of this BS matters. It is who Trump wants. He gets who he wants and Republicans need to fall in line and vote along party lines.US Constitution, Article II, Section 2Quote:
[The President] shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law
To paraphrase Brendan Sullivan (Oliver North's attorney), the Senate is not a potted plant. They are not there merely to rubber stamp every appointment Trump makes. No doubt, the vast majority will be approved, but Gaetz looks to be the rare exception (probably the only exception of the ones announced so far).
Trump won in a landslide. The Republicans should confirm Donald Duck if Trump asks them to do so.
And do you want a Republican form of government where each state's representatives do the will of their state, or one where one man calls all the shots?
To be honest, I like most of trumps picks but Gaetz is one I don't like. If Cruz or cornyn voted against him, it wouldn't bother me. If they think he's good to go, I'm fine with that too. If crux or cornyn were too scared to tell Trump no, that would be a problem.
Look the AG is Trump's most important pick from his perspective.
He got F'd over by his 2 picks his 1st term and then the dems confirmed Garland who spent 4 years engaged in lawfare against Trump and supporting liberal state prosecutors doing the same.
The dems started the weaponization of the DOJ with Obama and Holder.
I'm glad you like the other picks but Trump gets HIS guy in the DOJ. End of story.
I get that, but Matt Gaetz as AG isn't like some allstar pick. There are other people loyal to Trump that can do just as good of a job, if not better. If (and right now it's still an if) Gaetz did the things he's accused of, it's fair for senators to have reservations and asking politicians to blindly give Trump what he wants is a step too far for me.
He's definitely an all star pick.
How? Because he hates the establishment? There are other guys out there that hate the establishment too and they have more discipline than Gaetz does. What else has Gaetz shown that makes anyone think he's the one and only best option for AG?
If Gaetz become AG, then fine. We'll see how it goes. I'm not staunchly against him, but the idea that one man should have the power to do whatever he wants because he won by a lot is the inverse of how we should want our government run.
No because he has demonstrated he goes after the establishment, doesn't take bribes and funding from the typical swap sources, is loyal to trump, and feared enough by the enemy to have been ****ed with non stop through his entire legislative career.... kind of like another guy that just won the Presidency.
Oh and despite what you read and what you think, he's sharp as a tack.
So in your opinion, no one else out there exists that could do better than him? He is truly the best option for AG?
The dems never have this issue.
Honestly, I would rather just cuts out the centrist Republicans from the party. Other than votes, they are a net negative once we have actual power. I'd rather just ballot harvest from Bubba and the rednecks and cut you guys.
I'm literally advocating for less power concentrated with the president, you are advocating for what amounts to total power in the hands of the president, and somehow I'm the centrist? That makes no sense.
You can check my posting history. You will not find me advocate for one position that is not conservative enough to get me labeled "far right" by the MSM
I get that you want to stick it to the Dems, but just because they want their president to act like a dictator doesn't mean we should.
I'm fine with gutting the power of the feds. You can't do that without amendments. That will never happen.
The dems will wield the power of the executive unchecked when they are in power. What you want is ideal but will never happen.
We need to plunge the sword of the executive up to the hilt in their chests.
I dont want to say something you don't believe, so I'll ask this instead: how does this differ from a true monarch/dictator?
Are you serious? You understand that these are executive branch appointments, correct?
You know that there are two other branches, correct?
You understand what a dictatorship is, right?
The answers to those questions contain the answer that you seek.
twk said:
Paxton would be miles better than Gaetz, but he suffers from similar problems. His tenure as AG doesn't give one a lot of confidence that he will be able to handle an even bigger department. He's a master at PR, but not a great administrator. Does he have the balls to actually follow through and get things done, rather than just filing suits and tweeting about it? Cleaning up DOJ will require a lot of dirty work that doesn't get you a PR pat on the back. He'd be better than Gaetz, but that's a low bar.
Expertise in perversion, indecency and public intoxication propels greasy Florida Man into cabinet position of choice. pic.twitter.com/SeLQK8Qax0
— DPRK News Service (@DPRK_News) November 15, 2024
His underlings actually run the department. The DAGs. He needs someone absolutely loyal to wield the sword if those right below him step out of line.twk said:
Paxton would be miles better than Gaetz, but he suffers from similar problems. His tenure as AG doesn't give one a lot of confidence that he will be able to handle an even bigger department. He's a master at PR, but not a great administrator. Does he have the balls to actually follow through and get things done, rather than just filing suits and tweeting about it? Cleaning up DOJ will require a lot of dirty work that doesn't get you a PR pat on the back. He'd be better than Gaetz, but that's a low bar.
JUST IN: Matt Gaetz is already calling GOP senators and setting up meetings to ensure he can be confirmed as Trump’s Attorney General - @PhilipWegmann
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 15, 2024
Gaetz is reportedly and “unexpectedly” taking the process “seriously.” pic.twitter.com/quzDoYIJbn
This shows it wasn't some spur of the moment decision like that ridiculous screenshot from yesterday claimed. I think this is Plan A for the Trump team. Unless the allegation about Gaetz prove true, I think he gets confirmed. There is a lot of political pressure being applied for sure, and Trump has a ton of leverage and goodwill at the moment.aggiehawg said:
Gaetz making the courtesy calls. Wonder if he has a sherpa assigned?JUST IN: Matt Gaetz is already calling GOP senators and setting up meetings to ensure he can be confirmed as Trump’s Attorney General - @PhilipWegmann
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) November 15, 2024
Gaetz is reportedly and “unexpectedly” taking the process “seriously.” pic.twitter.com/quzDoYIJbn
Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
Trumps "crimes" compared to what Gaetz is accused of are night and day.
Are you saying that because someone isn't prosecuted by the DOJ, they are not accused or and definitely didn't commit a crime?Teslag said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
Trumps "crimes" compared to what Gaetz is accused of are night and day.
Gaetz isn't accused of a single crime
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HH: ...And how satisfied are you with Judge Cannon's ruling yesterday?
TB: I am, yesterday was a phenomenal day for the rule of law, in my view, for President Trump, for his family, for Walt Nauta, for Carlos, you know, the other defendants that were charged. Surprise is definitely the wrong word. Judge Cannon is a thoughtful, smart judge. She's done, every step of the way, she's been careful. She's listened to everybody. She's criticized soundly in the media because she takes her time and is thoughtful, which is extremely, not only unfair, but absurd, frankly. And you're right. The argument here is so basic that it almost belies common sense when you think about the other result, which is that a private citizen, in this case Jack Smith, is given the power to take away somebody's liberty, the power to sign indictments. And he's not been nominated by the president. He has not been confirmed by the Senate. And we have a United States Constitution. And the United States Constitution says you cannot do that. And so while it seems almost obvious that there's other courts that have gone the other way, if you read her 93-page opinion, it is a gem. I think it's really, really thoughtful. It makes sense. It follows the law. And yesterday was just one of the, it was a great day for all kinds of reasons, obviously, with the Vice President being announced and coming off of Saturday, which was a horrible day. But I got to call President Trump yesterday morning and deliver the news. And it's just, it's amazing. But you know, we can talk about it all you want. It's right. Her decision is right.
Guitarsoup said:Are you saying that because someone isn't prosecuted by the DOJ, they are not accused or and definitely didn't commit a crime?Teslag said:Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:
Trumps "crimes" compared to what Gaetz is accused of are night and day.
Gaetz isn't accused of a single crime
.@MZHemingway: People are sick and tired of people in Washington, D.C. doing nothing as these people tried to destroy the country and getting upset at someone who actually might root out the corruption there. We don’t have a Department of Justice. We have a Department of… pic.twitter.com/lsL6VNKX88
— Trump War Room (@TrumpWarRoom) November 16, 2024
Fat Black Swan said:
Mollie politely owns Gowdy. Everybody's face in the last shot says it all..@MZHemingway: People are sick and tired of people in Washington, D.C. doing nothing as these people tried to destroy the country and getting upset at someone who actually might root out the corruption there. We don’t have a Department of Justice. We have a Department of… pic.twitter.com/lsL6VNKX88
— Trump War Room (@TrumpWarRoom) November 16, 2024
Logos Stick said:
Gowdy is the King of doing nothing.
