Trump names Pete hegseth as defense secretary

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Do love a good ear wax remover.
Liberal tears taste so sweet.
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45-70Ag said:




Reminds me of an SNL skit.
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45-70Ag said:




Not nearly as important as SecDef, and not even part of the DoD
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P.U.T.U said:

If you listen to his podcast interview with Shawn Ryan it sounds like he will focus more on transforming the military back to what it should be instead of making all of the decisions. Seems the new joint chiefs will be more of the military advisors and Hegseth will reform the military.

During the podcast he said we should:
  • Get rid of all DEI/CRT. Anyone who has pushed those will be fired
  • Refocus the military to do what it is supposed to do, kill people
  • Focus on rebuilding our weapon stockpiles, our troops at the DMZ have 3 days worth of artillery. They sent over everything else to Ukraine
  • Regain confidence in the military, said at this point we would lose a traditional confrontation against China, Russia, and maybe a few other countries. Don't have the proper manpower or equipment
  • Get rid of most of the women in fighting roles such as infantry and special operations. If you cannot meet the current male standards you don't belong on the ground for those roles. Women belong in the military, just not in those roles.
  • Get the physical standards back to pre-Obama levels
  • Get rid of anyone with foreign ties to enemy nations like Iran, China, Russia
  • Come up with plan to better defend infrastructure
  • Increase missile capabilities, our entire naval surface fleet could get knocked out in a short period by hypersonic weapons

Just gotta execute
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45-70Ag said:




My favorite part is how the MSM has claimed they weren't all in on the woke BS that lost them the election, all after they fawned over people like this and mayor Pete
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Lib heads banging hard and exploding at the same time.
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K2-HMFIC said:

suburban cowboy said:

Logos Stick said:

Context and info on this guy?


Handsome and a ladies man but….

He actually loves America



I mean that's great and all, but can we have some more qualifications for a guy that controls the military 24/7.

Where were you when Leon Panacea was SecDef?
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P.U.T.U said:

Military moral is at an all time low and for good reason. I've had several conversations with my friend who retired a little over a year ago as the command sergeant major for the army and he got out for having to deal with all of the BS.

Part of the explanation for the current state of morale is the fact that we aren't fighting any major conflicts at the moment, and garrison life is a far cry from what many signed up for, and filled with way too much BS for those who have been in since we were waging GWOT on a large scale and there were ample opportunities to deploy and do the cool stuff that many of our best people signed up for and were able to do exceedingly well.

I would wager that even if we could find the perfect "hard charger" to head the DOD, morale isn't going to magically increase as a result of new leadership, as that alone won't change the fact that garrison life basically sucks.

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K2-HMFIC said:

LMCane said:

K2-HMFIC said:

What I've learned how this forum perceives the military

- The majority of the military's day is looking for people to kill.
- When they're not doing that, we're trying to promote DEI and hold white people back
- If time available, forcibly vaccinate people.
- The SecDef does not need to know how to lead and manage a 2 million people.
- The SecDef does not need to know how to engage with the leaders of foreign countries
- The SecDef does not need to have an understanding of how deterrence works, or tech dev, or managing a $800B budget.

I would be happy if the SECDEF knows how to:

shoot down a Chinese spy balloon moving over every base in the USA,

or how to plan a retreat so we don't leave 2 billion dollars worth of equipment for the Taliban,

or let's his superiors know when he is having surgery rather than just going AWOL for two days,

or how to stop the Ukraine war,

or the Hamas war,

or how not to have dudes wearing dresses in the military.



Not a single item you listed explains why a news anchor who sometimes wore a uniform should be SecDef.


Great list on challenges with Austin…
Name all of the military accolades of Ash Carter, Obama's SecDef for the last 2 years.
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fc2112 said:

In all seriousness - I think I am more qualified to be SECDEF than this guy and I am nowhere near being qualified to be SECDEF.


Ok POG, I'll be sure to thank you for your service when I leave post.
Liberal tears taste so sweet.
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I did not know Harry Sisson posted on TA. LOL, caution, some high quality profanity here;



Hegseth won't be a William Cohen and veto a request for armor as happened in Mogadishu I bet, or approve collapsing air support prior to surrendering Bagram in the summer fighting season to evacuate folks from the downtown Kabul airport in pure chaos. Sec Def has been a disaster for most of the past 30+ years. He also won't go AWOL while supposedly on the job, like the present clown Austin has done.
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Ag with kids said:

K2-HMFIC said:

LMCane said:

K2-HMFIC said:

What I've learned how this forum perceives the military

- The majority of the military's day is looking for people to kill.
- When they're not doing that, we're trying to promote DEI and hold white people back
- If time available, forcibly vaccinate people.
- The SecDef does not need to know how to lead and manage a 2 million people.
- The SecDef does not need to know how to engage with the leaders of foreign countries
- The SecDef does not need to have an understanding of how deterrence works, or tech dev, or managing a $800B budget.

I would be happy if the SECDEF knows how to:

shoot down a Chinese spy balloon moving over every base in the USA,

or how to plan a retreat so we don't leave 2 billion dollars worth of equipment for the Taliban,

or let's his superiors know when he is having surgery rather than just going AWOL for two days,

or how to stop the Ukraine war,

or the Hamas war,

or how not to have dudes wearing dresses in the military.



Not a single item you listed explains why a news anchor who sometimes wore a uniform should be SecDef.


Great list on challenges with Austin…
Name all of the military accolades of Ash Carter, Obama's SecDef for the last 2 years.


He can't. Most have been politicians and didn't possess any kind of qualification. His bleeding over Pete is idiotic and will continue.
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I have his latest audiobook on my wish list. Going to need to give this a listen now.
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oldyeller said:

P.U.T.U said:

Military moral is at an all time low and for good reason. I've had several conversations with my friend who retired a little over a year ago as the command sergeant major for the army and he got out for having to deal with all of the BS.

Part of the explanation for the current state of morale is the fact that we aren't fighting any major conflicts at the moment, and garrison life is a far cry from what many signed up for, and filled with way too much BS for those who have been in since we were waging GWOT on a large scale and there were ample opportunities to deploy and do the cool stuff that many of our best people signed up for and were able to do exceedingly well.

I would wager that even if we could find the perfect "hard charger" to head the DOD, morale isn't going to magically increase as a result of new leadership, as that alone won't change the fact that garrison life basically sucks.




Garrison life sucks because there is too much focus on bull**** and not enough focus on training basic warfighting functions. No one wants to listen to diversity and resilience briefings, do MSAF assessments, etc. They want to hit the range, blow some **** up, and be soldiers.
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I'm pleasantly surprised at the reaction from The Five yesterday on Fox. To a man and women they think he's a good pick. Even Dana was very complimentary of him. And I respect her judgment.
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Again, this is a civilian position and is a managerial.

The military experience one way or another is less relevant. Dealing with the internal and external politics and diplomatic relationships with other militaries is a big part of the role. It's not so much liking the guy for his ideas it's more about matching skill set and experience to the role.

Sean Spicer was talking about them nominating a lot more experienced managerial people for the undersecretary positions which is definitely needed.
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“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience" - Mark Twain
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I remember when a community organizer was elected President, twice.
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45-70Ag said:

Ag with kids said:

K2-HMFIC said:

LMCane said:

K2-HMFIC said:

What I've learned how this forum perceives the military

- The majority of the military's day is looking for people to kill.
- When they're not doing that, we're trying to promote DEI and hold white people back
- If time available, forcibly vaccinate people.
- The SecDef does not need to know how to lead and manage a 2 million people.
- The SecDef does not need to know how to engage with the leaders of foreign countries
- The SecDef does not need to have an understanding of how deterrence works, or tech dev, or managing a $800B budget.

I would be happy if the SECDEF knows how to:

shoot down a Chinese spy balloon moving over every base in the USA,

or how to plan a retreat so we don't leave 2 billion dollars worth of equipment for the Taliban,

or let's his superiors know when he is having surgery rather than just going AWOL for two days,

or how to stop the Ukraine war,

or the Hamas war,

or how not to have dudes wearing dresses in the military.



Not a single item you listed explains why a news anchor who sometimes wore a uniform should be SecDef.


Great list on challenges with Austin…
Name all of the military accolades of Ash Carter, Obama's SecDef for the last 2 years.


He can't. Most have been politicians and didn't possess any kind of qualification. His bleeding over Pete is idiotic and will continue.
Ash Carter was a technocrat who gave us B-21, DIU, 3rd Offset, and NGAD for starters.

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Psycho Bunny said:

fc2112 said:

In all seriousness - I think I am more qualified to be SECDEF than this guy and I am nowhere near being qualified to be SECDEF.


Ok POG, I'll be sure to thank you for your service when I leave post.
Anyone who uses POG on a forum like this outs themselves and their personality super quickly.
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K2-HMFIC said:

Psycho Bunny said:

fc2112 said:

In all seriousness - I think I am more qualified to be SECDEF than this guy and I am nowhere near being qualified to be SECDEF.


Ok POG, I'll be sure to thank you for your service when I leave post.
Anyone who uses POG on a forum like this outs themselves and their personality super quickly.


So bad ass
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What a strange turn this thread has made
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45-70Ag said:


The liberal soy boys/girls/things would probably identify that as a urethral sound!
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backintexas2013 said:

What a strange turn this thread has made



Liberal tears taste so sweet.
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K2-HMFIC said:

45-70Ag said:

Ag with kids said:

K2-HMFIC said:

LMCane said:

K2-HMFIC said:

What I've learned how this forum perceives the military

- The majority of the military's day is looking for people to kill.
- When they're not doing that, we're trying to promote DEI and hold white people back
- If time available, forcibly vaccinate people.
- The SecDef does not need to know how to lead and manage a 2 million people.
- The SecDef does not need to know how to engage with the leaders of foreign countries
- The SecDef does not need to have an understanding of how deterrence works, or tech dev, or managing a $800B budget.

I would be happy if the SECDEF knows how to:

shoot down a Chinese spy balloon moving over every base in the USA,

or how to plan a retreat so we don't leave 2 billion dollars worth of equipment for the Taliban,

or let's his superiors know when he is having surgery rather than just going AWOL for two days,

or how to stop the Ukraine war,

or the Hamas war,

or how not to have dudes wearing dresses in the military.



Not a single item you listed explains why a news anchor who sometimes wore a uniform should be SecDef.


Great list on challenges with Austin…
Name all of the military accolades of Ash Carter, Obama's SecDef for the last 2 years.


He can't. Most have been politicians and didn't possess any kind of qualification. His bleeding over Pete is idiotic and will continue.
Ash Carter was a technocrat who gave us B-21, DIU, 3rd Offset, and NGAD for starters.




When Ash Carter became SecDef, he was so witless about how colors of money worked and multi-year procurement contracts that Shay Assad had to coach him on his negotiating power before he met with LMCO leadership on cost growth for the JSF. I'm not talking about teaching him over the course of weeks or months, this was right before the meeting started and Carter thought Lockheed held all the cards.

I'm not a big fan of Frank Kendall but at least his "Better Buying Power" rules that he implemented as AT&L tried to teach PEOs and PM's not to give away the farm to contractors. Carter was feckless in financial matters bit Assad filled the gap.

My point being, the SecDef has supporting staff that are there to advise and educate the Secretary on the FAR, FMR,Technology, or wherever their weak areas are. Hegseth will have what he needs. What Hegseth uniquely possesses among any of the other suggested candidates is an appreciation for the depth of cultural rot and abd careerism that undermines the effectiveness of the entire DoD. That's why Trump picked him. Read his book.
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Pete Hegseth will be an excellent secretary of defense.
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AggieRain said:

I only know this guy as a right wing
Good. Huge improvement.

Loving America and believing in the Constitution should be requirements for working in our government.
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Ulysses90 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

45-70Ag said:

Ag with kids said:

K2-HMFIC said:

LMCane said:

K2-HMFIC said:

What I've learned how this forum perceives the military

- The majority of the military's day is looking for people to kill.
- When they're not doing that, we're trying to promote DEI and hold white people back
- If time available, forcibly vaccinate people.
- The SecDef does not need to know how to lead and manage a 2 million people.
- The SecDef does not need to know how to engage with the leaders of foreign countries
- The SecDef does not need to have an understanding of how deterrence works, or tech dev, or managing a $800B budget.

I would be happy if the SECDEF knows how to:

shoot down a Chinese spy balloon moving over every base in the USA,

or how to plan a retreat so we don't leave 2 billion dollars worth of equipment for the Taliban,

or let's his superiors know when he is having surgery rather than just going AWOL for two days,

or how to stop the Ukraine war,

or the Hamas war,

or how not to have dudes wearing dresses in the military.



Not a single item you listed explains why a news anchor who sometimes wore a uniform should be SecDef.


Great list on challenges with Austin…
Name all of the military accolades of Ash Carter, Obama's SecDef for the last 2 years.


He can't. Most have been politicians and didn't possess any kind of qualification. His bleeding over Pete is idiotic and will continue.
Ash Carter was a technocrat who gave us B-21, DIU, 3rd Offset, and NGAD for starters.




When Ash Carter became SecDef, he was so witless about how colors of money worked and multi-year procurement contracts that Shay Assad had to coach him on his negotiating power before he met with LMCO leadership on cost growth for the JSF. I'm not talking about teaching him over the course of weeks or months, this was right before the meeting started and Carter thought Lockheed held all the cards.

I'm not a big fan of Frank Kendall but at least his "Better Buying Power" rules that he implemented as AT&L tried to teach PEOs and PM's not to give away the farm to contractors. Carter was feckless in financial matters bit Assad filled the gap.

My point being, the SecDef has supporting staff that are there to advise and educate the Secretary on the FAR, FMR,Technology, or wherever their weak areas are. Hegseth will have what he needs. What Hegseth uniquely possesses among any of the other suggested candidates is an appreciation for the depth of cultural rot and abd careerism that undermines the effectiveness of the entire DoD. That's why Trump picked him. Read his book.
Dude, you're proving my point.

Carter had been an ASD under Clinton, AT&L/DSD under Obama, was respected across the aisle for being highly competent in understanding the building and STILL had to be taught about PPBE.

Hegseth coming into this role is like taking a guy who's CLS qualified and expecting him to perform brain surgery.

And I have lots of thoughts about Kendall...he still gripes about better buying power because it didnt re-structure the system and got dumped by Lord as soon she she rolled in.
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Iraq2xVeteran said:

Pete Hegseth will be an excellent secretary of defense.


Just getting the Pentagon returned to a mission and warrior-centric focus will be a change exponentially better than what we have seen for many of the last 16 years.

You knew things were bad when you heard military leaders in DoD claim climate change was the biggest threat to the national security of our nation.

Good on Trump to make a break from this nonsense. An excellent choice and a sign that he most certainly has learned valuable lessons from the bureaucratic issues of the first term.

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Pete is going to kick ass.

I love how people ***** that we need non-DC swamp appointees, and then we actually get an awesome one and they still ***** and complain.
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K2-HMFIC said:

Teslag said:


He's literally been in the military longer than he's been a news anchor.
One weekend a month, two weeks a year doesnt make it a career.
That is not the narrative we were being sold when "really manly Tim Walz" become the nominee for VP. Did you see his camouflage hat?

Oh, and Hegseth is a combat veteran. Tim Walz is not.
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You could have had Chris Miller or Robert OBrien and achieved the same effect without being utterly unprepared for the building.
 
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