Trans volleyball situation at San Jose State University

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The Fife
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Transvestite is the big one, which is completely different from this person and considered a slur.
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Some of you smart people help me out.........

!. I was taught Chromosome #23 determines the sex of the human being.

2. If a skeleton is exhumed or found buried or exposed, the sex of the skeleton can be easily determined through bone structure and general skeletal size.....

So, it's not difficult to determine the sex of a human or skeletal remains, unless the powers to be simply default to feels!

Amirite?

Lex Talionis.......Ordo Seclorum
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Enabling mental illness.
Who?mikejones!
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Have I said something hateful?


I don't hate the trans player. I do hate trans ideology. I will not participate in that academic exercise. I will not call the guy a girl.
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The Fife said:

Transvestite is the big one, which is completely different from this person and considered a slur.
Boo hoo. Transvestite is the latest noun felt to be unkind. If you want, do you prefer cross dressing queen?


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noun
[ol]
  • Psychiatry. a person, especially someone assigned male at birth, who assumes the dress and manner usually associated with a different gender.
  • [/ol]

    BlueTaze
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    StandUpforAmerica said:

    Who?mikejones! said:

    An asst coach at Sjsu did file a title 9 complaint.


    She got fired the next day
    Yep...




    Obviously this coach is anti-lgbt and a threat to safety of others on campus. That's the narrative they push EVERY TIME to silence common sense criticism.
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    The Fife said:

    Transvestite is the big one, which is completely different from this person and considered a slur.
    Transvestite means "cross dresser" in Latin. Because you can't change your biology, then it still applies when someone dresses up to look like the opposite sex.

    This term was previously applied top people during a time when being transvestite was considered a mental illness.

    It still is a mental illness, no matter how you you pretend and proclaim it is normal.

    Therefore, transvestite is still an applicable term for mentally ill persons that pretend to be the opposite sex by making their appearance look like the opposite sex.

    Facts don't care about your feelings.
    TheEternalOptimist
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    I think the SJSU Athletic Director and University President should be arrested for coordination of threats and intimidation and the deprivation of rights of the Coach and other players.
    Old May Banker
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    California voted for that nonsense, let them deal with it. Hope every opponent refuses to play them.
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    NASAg03 said:

    The Fife said:

    Transvestite is the big one, which is completely different from this person and considered a slur.
    Transvestite means "cross dresser" in Latin. Because you can't change your biology, then it still applies when someone dresses up to look like the opposite sex.

    This term was previously applied top people during a time when being transvestite was considered a mental illness.

    It still is a mental illness, no matter how you you pretend and proclaim it is normal.

    Therefore, transvestite is still an applicable term for mentally ill persons that pretend to be the opposite sex by making their appearance look like the opposite sex.

    Facts don't care about your feelings.
    Facts don't mean much to idiots unfortunately.
    Captain Pablo
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    And here he is dogging Riley Gaines

    So just what is your position on biological males in womens sports?

    https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3500656/replies/68819893#68819893


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    The Fife said:

    Transvestite is the big one, which is completely different from this person and considered a slur.
    Great example of a term with no history of use as derogatory that has been retconned by our overlords as something equivalent to the n-word.
    The Fife
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    They are two different things, but nuances don't tend to matter much on F16.
    Claverack
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    The Fife said:

    They are two different things, but nuances don't tend to matter much on F16.


    What is it going to take for you to recognize males do not have the right to compete in women's athletics?

    Is it going to take this clown at SJSU breaking multiple bones in a woman's face on a spike?

    Or will it take a male defenseman breaking a female hockey player's neck on a boarding penalty?

    Not only does your approach deny women opportunities to compete fairly, it also poses the danger of long-term injury or even death at the hands of the much stronger he-she competitor.
    The Fife
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    Captain Pablo said:

    And here he is dogging Riley Gaines

    So just what is your position on biological males in womens sports?

    https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3500656/replies/68819893#68819893



    Congrats on using the search function, my opinion of her remains unchanged. She's a professional troll who stirs up 60-70somethings and the far right on facebook.

    Answering your question though I think there should be a third category. Just like Soviet and eastern bloc athletes, trans women have been under the influence of too much testosterone and it presents an unfair advantage in a women's group. Likewise their hormone levels put them at a significant disadvantage against men. It's the only solution that respects all three groups of people.
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    The Fife said:

    Captain Pablo said:

    And here he is dogging Riley Gaines

    So just what is your position on biological males in womens sports?

    https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3500656/replies/68819893#68819893



    Congrats on using the search function, my opinion of her remains unchanged. She's a professional troll who stirs up 60-70somethings and the far right on facebook.

    Answering your question though I think there should be a third category. Just like Soviet and eastern bloc athletes, trans women have been under the influence of too much testosterone and it presents an unfair advantage in a women's group. Likewise their hormone levels put them at a significant disadvantage against men. It's the only solution that respects all three groups of people.


    I don't give a rat's ass if your opinion is unchanged

    Your opinion on Gaines is wrong. She's fighting the good fight

    And all you have is lame ad hominem insults
    Captain Pablo
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    The Fife said:

    They are two different things, but nuances don't tend to matter much on F16.


    Aww look at him insulting "f16"
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    Captain Pablo said:

    The Fife said:

    Captain Pablo said:

    And here he is dogging Riley Gaines

    So just what is your position on biological males in womens sports?

    https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3500656/replies/68819893#68819893



    Congrats on using the search function, my opinion of her remains unchanged. She's a professional troll who stirs up 60-70somethings and the far right on facebook.

    Answering your question though I think there should be a third category. Just like Soviet and eastern bloc athletes, trans women have been under the influence of too much testosterone and it presents an unfair advantage in a women's group. Likewise their hormone levels put them at a significant disadvantage against men. It's the only solution that respects all three groups of people.


    I don't give a rat's ass if your opinion is unchanged

    Your opinion is wrong


    The fact she was denied a championship at the hands of a dude competing as a chick appears to have gone over his head.

    She has a valid point. These are women's sports; men have no right to compete in them.
    The Fife
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    Captain Pablo said:

    Your opinion on Gaines is wrong.
    Thanks, the feeling is mutual. She's the right's version of a SJW and does a disservice toward her own cause.
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    The Fife said:

    Captain Pablo said:

    Your opinion on Gaines is wrong.
    Thanks, the feeling is mutual. She's the right's version of a SJW and does a disservice toward her own cause.


    What has she said that is wrong?
    The Fife
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    The fact she was denied a championship at the hands of a dude competing as a chick appears to have gone over his head.

    She has a valid point. These are women's sports; men have no right to compete in them.

    Did you read the response when I was asked about trans-people in sports? Everyone seems to be overlooking that little detail.
    Captain Pablo
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    The Fife said:

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    The fact she was denied a championship at the hands of a dude competing as a chick appears to have gone over his head.

    She has a valid point. These are women's sports; men have no right to compete in them.

    Did you read the response when I was asked about trans-people in sports? Everyone seems to be overlooking that little detail.


    You mean your "separate but equal" response ?
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    The Fife said:

    Transvestite is the big one, which is completely different from this person and considered a slur.
    Don't care; it's a man playing dress up as a woman....transvestite, mentally ill, psychopath, all fit the description.
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    Juwanna Mann, a movie about a man playing basketball in a woman's league, was made in 2002.

    20 years later, it's no longer fiction.

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    Captain Pablo said:

    The Fife said:

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    The fact she was denied a championship at the hands of a dude competing as a chick appears to have gone over his head.

    She has a valid point. These are women's sports; men have no right to compete in them.

    Did you read the response when I was asked about trans-people in sports? Everyone seems to be overlooking that little detail.


    You mean your "separate but equal" response ?
    I know you'd rather put transwomen in the men's category but you'd be putting them at the same risk that you claim they present to others for the same sort of physical differences. This respects all three groups of people along with transmen, who rarely draw the same level of ire.
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    eric76 said:

    I'm not sure if we can call him a trans. According to https://quillette.com/2024/11/01/college-volleyballs-spartan-meltdown/ he self identifies as a woman. He certainly doesn't appear to have had an operation and the articles don't say that he is intending or seeking to have a sex change operation. He just says "I'm a woman" and they say "Welcome to the team".

    From the link above:
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    Rather, Fleming is a biologically male athlete who chooses to self-identify as a woman for legal and social purposes. However, in keeping with all the other farcical aspects of this saga, SJSU athletics officials have been required to pretend that this fact is somehow less important to the volleyball community than Fleming's artistic inclinations and culinary interests.


    Culinary interests? Yes. He likes to cook and likes to try out new restaurants.

    More from the link:
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    The pretense is rooted in the official policies of SJSU's Athletics Department, which demand that the asserted female gender identity of trans women such as Fleming be taken as trumping human biology. This explains why, when the above-described farce finally ended on 26 October, it was UNR, which fields an all-female volleyball team, that was required to forfeitand not SJSU, which doesn't.

    On a side note, I wonder if this tactic might actually be able to help men in seeking employment at a company that is hiring women and minorities and avoiding white men. Could the male applicants simply say "I choose to be a woman for legal reasons" and force them to consider him? How about for college admissions at schools trying to push for diversity?
    lol, whether he has had an operation or intends to, that changes nothing. He is still a male.

    I suppose he could chop off his arms and legs and self-identify as a worm, or snake, but he would still be human.
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    It is going take men being affected to resolve this. For example, Wimbledon mixed doubles where one team is male/trans vs male/female.
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    The Fife said:

    Captain Pablo said:

    The Fife said:

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    The fact she was denied a championship at the hands of a dude competing as a chick appears to have gone over his head.

    She has a valid point. These are women's sports; men have no right to compete in them.

    Did you read the response when I was asked about trans-people in sports? Everyone seems to be overlooking that little detail.


    You mean your "separate but equal" response ?
    I know you'd rather put transwomen in the men's category but you'd be putting them at the same risk that you claim they present to others for the same sort of physical differences. This respects all three groups of people along with transmen, who rarely draw the same level of ire.

    For one thing, there is basically no competitive advantage for a woman to pretend to be a man and compete against them so obviously nobody cares.

    And if it's somehow dangerous for transgender athletes to compete against their own chromosomes then you just admitted it's dangerous for women to face them.

    This entire argument is based on progressive fantasy wish fulfillment for white men to claim victim status they so desperately crave.
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    The Fife said:

    Captain Pablo said:

    The Fife said:

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    The fact she was denied a championship at the hands of a dude competing as a chick appears to have gone over his head.

    She has a valid point. These are women's sports; men have no right to compete in them.

    Did you read the response when I was asked about trans-people in sports? Everyone seems to be overlooking that little detail.


    You mean your "separate but equal" response ?
    I know you'd rather put transwomen in the men's category but you'd be putting them at the same risk that you claim they present to others for the same sort of physical differences. This respects all three groups of people along with transmen, who rarely draw the same level of ire.
    The solution is to not 'trans' at all and get people to accept the biological reality that God made them as either a man or a woman. How they 'feel' is irrelevant.

    And your trolling is irrelevant to the facts on this matter.

    Now go swim in your own nuance.
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    The Fife said:

    Captain Pablo said:

    The Fife said:

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    The fact she was denied a championship at the hands of a dude competing as a chick appears to have gone over his head.

    She has a valid point. These are women's sports; men have no right to compete in them.

    Did you read the response when I was asked about trans-people in sports? Everyone seems to be overlooking that little detail.


    You mean your "separate but equal" response ?
    I know you'd rather put transwomen in the men's category but you'd be putting them at the same risk that you claim they present to others for the same sort of physical differences. This respects all three groups of people along with transmen, who rarely draw the same level of ire.


    We should put "transwomen" in the men's category because they're, you know, MEN. Why would they be at risk if they're good enough to make the men's team?
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    Viper16 said:

    Some of you smart people help me out.........

    !. I was taught Chromosome #23 determines the sex of the human being.

    2. If a skeleton is exhumed or found buried or exposed, the sex of the skeleton can be easily determined through bone structure and general skeletal size.....

    So, it's not difficult to determine the sex of a human or skeletal remains, unless the powers to be simply default to feels!

    Amirite?
    Also, the "sex change" doesn't actually change their sex -- only the appearance of which sex they are. It is nothing but obfuscation. They are still the same sex even if they had some parts lopped off.
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    People are so lost in their delusions
    Well…you sounded taller on radio.
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    taxpreparer said:

    It is going take men being affected to resolve this. For example, Wimbledon mixed doubles where one team is male/trans vs male/female.
    Yeah. Or maybe "mixed singles".
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    The Fife said:

    Who?mikejones! said:

    The trans player is the boss. Does what he wants, comes and goes as he pleases and the coach doesn't do or say anything. The captain stopped coming to practice because of the coach's behavior.

    The trans kid even teamed up with an opponent and targeted the captain.
    If this is how she's behaving she needs to go, and the coach needs to do his job and be a leader by enforcing team rules. Aside from the hateful rhetoric in this thread, that's the real problem here.

    This bullying tactic by the LGBTQ+ mafia has got to stop. And the only way to make it stop is to push back hard against it.

    There is NO hateful rhetoric in this thread. This tactic of the left will not longer be effective. I refused to be bullied.
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    its going to take something extreme to force this issue, like a female athlete being severely injured or killed.

    Or you pull a reverse UTEP and how they started an all-black starting 5 in the championship game, you need to make an all trans female team and just make it so unavoidably obvious the sexes are not physically equal.

    for clarity, this is not against the rare genetic abnormality issue, but the biologically unambiguous male who wants to play female sports.
     
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