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*****Official TRUMP v HARRIS Debate Thread*****
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Dan Scott said:4stringAg said:
Harris has never looked this prepared. Why? She got the questions in advance snd ABC did her favors by not pushing back on her lies and asking questions of Trump that would put him on the defensive. Happens every time with debates on the Dem biased networks.
All the questions were pretty obvious. She practiced and stayed on script. It's not that hard.
Trump didn't stay on script, rambled, and never challenged her to get her off script.
Most the questions were fine....
It was the blatant- trump, here's something controversial you said and we think it terrible, what do you say?
Kamala- yes, he is awful
Sort of questions
I just don't understand how Trump who was rambling as he's wont to do couldn't manage to throw in his coalition of people like Elon Musk, RFK Jr, Tulsi Gabbard, etc. versus Harris' coalition of Liz and Dick Cheney and Vladimir Putin and then riff on that.
It's the easiest line ever and provides the starkest contrast of all time. Sigh.
It's the easiest line ever and provides the starkest contrast of all time. Sigh.
Save the geese! Save the cats! Vote Trump
4stringAg said:
Harris has never looked this prepared. Why? She got the questions in advance snd ABC did her favors by not pushing back on her lies and asking questions of Trump that would put him on the defensive. Happens every time with debates on the Dem biased networks.
Fact. The Pravda that is the American media is absolutely garbage!! She absolutely got the questions in advance and of course she comes out and says she wants a second debate when she is coddle by a major network.
And now Taylor swift endorses Harris. Like clock work
haven't you been vehemently defending Trump every day for a year -Barnyard96 said:Ghost of Bisbee said:
Trump is getting trounced
I think he'e beating himself. She sucks too, but man he missed some great opportunities
and insulting anyone who claimed we Republicans should put up a better candidate?
suddenly you see the light?! yea, we have been saying for four years that Trump sucks as a candidate and can't debate and explain conservative policies. but that's okay, not like one debate really matters...
just ask Joe Biden.
I think with his ego and age he thinks he can just show up and be the smartest person in the room with no prepDan Scott said:4stringAg said:
Harris has never looked this prepared. Why? She got the questions in advance snd ABC did her favors by not pushing back on her lies and asking questions of Trump that would put him on the defensive. Happens every time with debates on the Dem biased networks.
All the questions were pretty obvious. She practiced and stayed on script. It's not that hard.
Trump didn't stay on script, rambled, and never challenged her to get her off script.
Even rehearsed she made no sense.
Sadly that was her at her best.
Sadly that was her at her best.
Who?mikejones! said:Dan Scott said:4stringAg said:
Harris has never looked this prepared. Why? She got the questions in advance snd ABC did her favors by not pushing back on her lies and asking questions of Trump that would put him on the defensive. Happens every time with debates on the Dem biased networks.
All the questions were pretty obvious. She practiced and stayed on script. It's not that hard.
Trump didn't stay on script, rambled, and never challenged her to get her off script.
Most the questions were fine....
It was the blatant- trump, here's something controversial you said and we think it terrible, what do you say?
Kamala- yes, he is awful
Sort of questions
Trump's narcissism wouldn't allow for debate prep, studying facts, knowing the details.
I'll vote for Trump but he thinks/knows he deserves it and doesn't have to earn it. Don't put the work in.
I'll vote for Trump but he thinks/knows he deserves it and doesn't have to earn it. Don't put the work in.
I'll remember the Run, Spot Run line. That was awesome.UntoldSpirit said:
For Harris, the whole thing was a well rehearsed lie. It's sad that it makes people think she won.
I don't think Trump did a good job of showing the contrast between what she has been and what she now claims she is. But he did have some good lines. Its just that everyone expects that.
If you go by expectations, I'd say she won and she was allowed to pretend she is something she isn't. If you go by substance or memorable lines, I'd say Trump won, especially about the border and Ukraine.
Yeah - LETS VOTE FOR CALIFORNIA over FLORIDA.
Think about how ridiculous that is
Think about how ridiculous that is
Trump was up 8 percentage points prior to the debate.
Edit: Probably good news for Trump that even after tonight, Harris still couldn't overtake him.
Edit: Probably good news for Trump that even after tonight, Harris still couldn't overtake him.
The debate ends with Trump and Harris tied.
— Polymarket (@Polymarket) September 11, 2024
55 days to go. pic.twitter.com/MGpsIl6It8
Completely disagree. Trump was Trump and he lost no votes tonight. Harris was well prepared to "lie" and deflected every question. So what did that undecided voter learn tonight from Harris? She never answered any question. Watch it again. They ask a question and she does not answer it. They asked her twice if she spoke to Putin and she twice told us she spoke to Zelensky. What idiot is not smart enough to see that BS. The debate was setup for her to win. The questions most always put Trump having to defend himself from Harris and the moderators. The discussion provided nothing new. It was a waste of 90 minutes of everyone's life.4stringAg said:
I think people seeing the ABC bias already are politically savvy. The average idiot voter sees Harris as prepared, calmer, always having an answer even if it's lies and she had the questions in advance, getting digs and zingers in on Trump. They see Trump as rambling and angry.
On that basis she "won" . Does it change many minds? Not sure. She'll get a boost in the polls.
Trump blew this really. He was fighting an uphill battle with ABC fact checking him in real time while allowing her to lie with no consequence but most won't care about that.
LMCane said:haven't you been vehemently defending Trump every day for a year -Barnyard96 said:Ghost of Bisbee said:
Trump is getting trounced
I think he'e beating himself. She sucks too, but man he missed some great opportunities
and insulting anyone who claimed we Republicans should put up a better candidate?
suddenly you see the light?! yea, we have been saying for four years that Trump sucks as a candidate and can't debate and explain conservative policies. but that's okay, not like one debate really matters...
just ask Joe Biden.
Omg dude, lots of things can be true at the same time. But you keep doing it the way you do it.
Nobody here saying she won believes she's better on the issues, thinks the moderation was fair, thinks her answers were better etc.
There are people who view it from a "what I want it to be" lens and people who view it from a "what the country will see" lens.
90% of the people who consume anything from this debate in media will see it in clips and reactions on social media. And Trump missed so many opportunities to hammer it home.
Thats OK. It may it matter. But tonight wasn't a stronger performance by Trump. None of that has to do with how bad kamala was. He overshadowed her. And that's what she wanted and needed
There are people who view it from a "what I want it to be" lens and people who view it from a "what the country will see" lens.
90% of the people who consume anything from this debate in media will see it in clips and reactions on social media. And Trump missed so many opportunities to hammer it home.
Thats OK. It may it matter. But tonight wasn't a stronger performance by Trump. None of that has to do with how bad kamala was. He overshadowed her. And that's what she wanted and needed
The biggest thing that bothers me is that the Dems are trying to blame the current immigration, money, war, race divide and other crisis's on trump, despite them being in charge for the last 3.5 years and 12 of the last 16. It's crazy that this effort is apparently working to some degree.
it's simple and completely predictablejohnnyblaze36 said:
I just don't understand how Trump who was rambling as he's wont to do couldn't manage to throw in his coalition of people like Elon Musk, RFK Jr, Tulsi Gabbard, etc. versus Harris' coalition of Liz and Dick Cheney and Vladimir Putin and then riff on that.
It's the easiest line ever and provides the starkest contrast of all time. Sigh.
how do I know?
because everyone that voted DeSantis and Haley stated this exact scenario would be taking place.
over and over
why are you stating you can't understand it?
because Trump has NEVER been very good at debating, and certainly never good at explaining policy or defending his own statements.
because he is too lazy and undisciplined to put in the effort and the hard work.
I listed four fatal mistakes made months ago. this was one of them.
Are you better off now than 4 years ago?
Ted Cruz: "She didn't answer that! Unless you're a Mexican drug lord , you can't say yes to that."
Haha
Ted Cruz: "She didn't answer that! Unless you're a Mexican drug lord , you can't say yes to that."
Haha
La Bamba said:
Trump was up 8 percentage points prior to the debate.The debate ends with Trump and Harris tied.
— Polymarket (@Polymarket) September 11, 2024
55 days to go. pic.twitter.com/MGpsIl6It8
Emotional betting is always the way to go
— Ari Fleischer (@AriFleischer) September 11, 2024
He was amazing at debating in 2015. He wrecked all of the globalist, establishment Republicans.
WRECKED THEM.
He WRECKED - TRUCKED - HRC.
DESTROYED HER
W T F ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
seriously.
WRECKED THEM.
He WRECKED - TRUCKED - HRC.
DESTROYED HER
W T F ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
seriously.
If Trump wins, there may need to be a final funeral for all the DeSantis Sore Losers' opinions, speculations, wishes and dreams. And the DeSantis Sore Losers Club can be laid to rest.
Well, Harris never got put on the spot by them. They softballed her all night long while throwing Nolan Ryan fastballs at Trump's head with all their fact checking.SquirrellyDan said:DonHenley said:
It was a bad night for Trump.
It was bad in the sense that he should have wiped the floor with her. Overall nothing new came out. Harris did do a much better job than I thought she was capable of, regardless of the clear bias by the moderators.
But if this decides the election, it's trumps own fault. He should have easily been able to make her look stupid but he failed miserably.
I'm not a Trump fan but that was ****ing embarrassing for ABC how biased they were.
One big point that stuck out to me.
Trump mentioned people eating pets, etc.
Muir immediately "fact checked" by saying "since you brought up Springfield, Ohio, blah blah blah".
Except Trump did NOT bring up Springfield, Ohio. He just mentioned people eating pets.
So, that was already a planned attack on Trump.
She shouldn't be tied considering the massive amount of media support and coverage though.
. Trump didn't have the scriptDan Scott said:4stringAg said:
Harris has never looked this prepared. Why? She got the questions in advance snd ABC did her favors by not pushing back on her lies and asking questions of Trump that would put him on the defensive. Happens every time with debates on the Dem biased networks.
All the questions were pretty obvious. She practiced and stayed on script. It's not that hard.
Trump didn't stay on script, rambled, and never challenged her to get her off script.
Don't engage the hardest working CM on this board
This was literally a waste of everyone's time tonight.
Trump was at a campaign rally with his same old lines.
Kamala was a robot with prepared answers to her questions and to the questions Trump was being asked. It was almost like a chip was inserted behind her ear and she simply regurgitated all of the lines she rehearsed for 5 days.
The moderators were disgustingly bad and harmed the country by collaborating with a candidate and not forcing that candidate to answer for her past "far left" crazy-ass positions and now all of her Trump-esque positions.
Biggest loser: America
2nd biggest loser: ABC
Just losers: Kamala and Trump
Trump was at a campaign rally with his same old lines.
Kamala was a robot with prepared answers to her questions and to the questions Trump was being asked. It was almost like a chip was inserted behind her ear and she simply regurgitated all of the lines she rehearsed for 5 days.
The moderators were disgustingly bad and harmed the country by collaborating with a candidate and not forcing that candidate to answer for her past "far left" crazy-ass positions and now all of her Trump-esque positions.
Biggest loser: America
2nd biggest loser: ABC
Just losers: Kamala and Trump
That's my point. The fact that she couldn't take the lead after tonight is good news for Trump.the_batman26 said:
She shouldn't be tied considering the massive amount of media support and coverage though.
The constant lawsuits, allegations, and attacks have heightened Trumps need to punch back.
He didn't have that the first time round. Played loose and was better.
He didn't have that the first time round. Played loose and was better.
Who?mikejones! said:
The biggest thing that bothers me is that the Dems are trying to blame the current immigration, money, war, race divide and other crisis's on trump, despite them being in charge for the last 3.5 years and 12 of the last 16. It's crazy that this effort is apparently working to some degree.
And he was very ineffective in sticking that back on them. Because he took her petty bait instead. He muddied the water instead of lobbing the grenade right back at her clearly.
JD Vance on Fox now...
Kamala is running away from her record. His favorite line was "I was gonna mail her a MAGA hat."
She's done just one interview. She's going back to the basement.
No fact checking or corrections by ABC.
She's running a campaign based on vibes. She is a total disaster.
I really want to see the Vance vs Walz debate.
Kamala is running away from her record. His favorite line was "I was gonna mail her a MAGA hat."
She's done just one interview. She's going back to the basement.
No fact checking or corrections by ABC.
She's running a campaign based on vibes. She is a total disaster.
I really want to see the Vance vs Walz debate.
All was going well.until she mentioned people leaving his rallies early. Tailspin from there.
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