The GOP made their bed and must lie in it now.
Except he's only slightly wrong. The problem is not Trump, he's problematic, but not THE problem. The problem is us thinking that Trump is actually a good response to the left. If you want to tell anyone to look in the "fuggin mirror", your entire post details why we are "fugged". Instead of doing what fixes anything, we decide that we just need someone who is an a-hole back with no regard to what actually needs to be done.schmellba99 said:This is what all of the concerned moderates and never Trumpers and "I will just stay at home and not vote" morons just can't seem to get through their dense AF heads.TheWoodlandsTxAg said:Kamala winning by 11 head to head and by 12 in the extended ballot in Michigan is devastating:whatthehey78 said:
Okay Kamala...whatever you say.
https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls
Trump is losing by double digits in a swing state to a Marxist when all of the polls are saying that the electorate supports Republicans heavily on 6 of the top 7 issues (abortion being the only one they don't). Trump is the problem.
Trump is not the problem. He never has been.
Trump is the end result of decades of "oh golly gee shucks!" spineless republican leadership that trots out Bush and McCain and Romney and whomever else that is a damned jellyfish and who was absolutely terrified to say something mean back to the Dems in between their constant barrage of calling R's nazis and misogynists and warmongers and whatever else.
Trump is the end result of what happens when you have voters that are more concerned about how their neighbors and friends might percieve them if they find out they didn't vote for the black guy. Trump is the end result of what happens when you have people that claim they are "tired of how things are", then turn around and follow that statement up with a "buuuuuttttttttt......" and proceed to spend the next 10 minutes stammering and backpedaling making excuses for how things are. Trump is the end result of people that talk politics at the office around the coffee machine but then suddenly go into hushed whispers or silent mode when Karen The Libtard walks in because they are scared of offending her even though she has zero fears about saying whatever she wants or offending everybody else with her existence.
Trump is what happens when people finally get tired of the bland otameal politicians and hear somebody that isn't afraid to say what needs to be said, and say it unapologetically. And when somebody says "what did you say?!?!?", he says it again. Louder. More foreceful. Less apologetically then before.
You don't want Trump? Get politicians that aren't giant vaginas and that have the fortitude to take a stance and hold their ground even when the left tries to attack that stance. Get politcians that aren't afraid of upsetting a group of people that will never like them or be on their side no matter what. Get politicians that seem to actually put the country first and make no bones about stating to the world that we are Americans, and America is our priority.
You want to know what the problem is? Look in the fuggin mirror. The answer will be staring back at you.
All lookalike R's would actually lose to the Dems. They think the same way on all issues; 1) mass illegal immigration is great!, 2) who cares about trans groomers?!!!, 3) China is poor and they need our "free" trade to get into the US markets...we dont need those stinking US based industries anyhow (like cars, semi-conductors and AI), 4) Palestine and Ukraine need our money, our blood and our men, 5) the debt isn't big enough, 6) we need to pack the courts, 7) it's perfectly fine to steal elections and assassinate the President if he is Trump.SA68AG said:
GOP picked the only candidate that could possibly lose to the dems.
And even then if Trump could have shown any discipline in his convention speech, picked a better VP, and stopped his stupid name calling tweets, he'd still probably be ahead.
Well he is ahead so...SA68AG said:
GOP picked the only candidate that could possibly lose to the dems.
And even then if Trump could have shown any discipline in his convention speech, picked a better VP, and stopped his stupid name calling tweets, he'd still probably be ahead.
SA68AG said:
GOP picked the only candidate that could possibly lose to the dems.
Define center left based onaggiedent said:
" Why are we running Trump? He is a center LEFT moderate who is now probably going to lose."
FIFY
And DeSantis has endorsed President Trump. Still does.jwhaby said:Stop. Desantis ran a poor campaign. If he can't win a Republican primary, how do you expect him to win the general election? It's over. Let it go.LMCane said:
Props to the OP for taking the time to write all that out.
but the GOP primary voters decided they would rather lose with Trump than win with DeSantis or Haley.
too late to do anything about it now.
do Trump supporters even realize that if / when Harris chooses Shapiro- that means Trump HAS to win Michigan or Wisconsin or he loses the election?
PTB?Helicopter Ben said:Im Gipper said:Well that is a relief!Quote:
She will not be making any real decisions on her own. If she tries something that the true PTB deem too radical or bad for their interests, they will slap her hand and she'll do what she's told.
(Not sure what point you think your post made, but it sure didn't make any one feel better about Harris being the most liberal candidate!! )
Well you cut off the second part of the paragraph where I explained that. And I also clarified that it's not all that comforting. My point is that while the things she says are terrifying, I don't think the PTB will allow her to do the insanely radical things she has said. It will be more of the same crap as we've seen with FJB.
Gig em G said:SA68AG said:
GOP picked the only candidate that could possibly lose to the dems.
Agree 100%. Some of my friends I grew up with are VERY Christian and do not like Trump based on his character and nefarious past associations.
There's a reason he was begging Christians to get out and vote for him last week.
While he lost the Republican presidential nomination he is a great governor and believes in the Constitution. I would have voted for him as President but alas, not to be this cycle. I will be voting for President Trump and hope like hell he wins.Tone2002 said:
DeSantis??? … what a loser
Desantis is the most effective post Cold War political leader.Tone2002 said:
DeSantis??? … what a loser
Why?Gig em G said:
The GOP made their bed and must lie in it now.
OK. Perfect candidate. Where do I sign up?Quote:
Democrats cannot attack him because he is pro choice.
halfastros81 said:
There's something I can agree with . Makes me curious why you pulled Sinunu out of the jelly bean jar.
The GOP primary voters in one state (Iowa) made the decision for the rest of the electorate.Gig em G said:
The GOP made their bed and must lie in it now.
If the people wanted Desantis, they would have voted for Desantis. Guess what, it didn't happen that way. So your choice is either cry about it on Texags and we all laugh. Or and hear me out on this, or, vote for the 3 people that are on the ballet.TheWoodlandsTxAg said:The GOP primary voters in one state (Iowa) made the decision for the rest of the electorate.Gig em G said:
The GOP made their bed and must lie in it now.
Democrats just changed their candidate a week ago after Biden won their primary. Biden was getting destroyed in the polls and was headed for a landslide defeat so they removed him.
Why can't we do the same?
It is only fair.
Desantis is the most effective post Cold War political leader in the US.
Desantis has completely destroyed the Democrats in Florida and turned them into a joke in a state that Obama won twice.
Florida is the most diverse state in the country and Desantis won it by 20 points.
Desantis has delivered on every major conservative policy position. From crime prevention to prosperous economic success. Florida is now one of the safest states in the country and California is one of the 10 most dangerous based on new data.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/slideshows/10-most-dangerous-states-in-america?slide=3
Name a conservative politician in the last 40 years with a better conservative political track record of delivering on the issues than Desantis?
Conservatives and Republicans wanted Desantis. We should get Desantis with a Sununu on the ticket to get the moderates. Why do Iowa Republicans get to pick the nominee for the whole country?
i promise it's okay to agree with me from time to time, no one's gonna confiscate your certified f16 conservative badgettu_85 said:Based on your lefty posting history, your opinion in this matter is more useless than usual. What I dont get are the people that have starred your post in this thread.Old McDonald said:on second thought it actually feels more like a post from an AI that was trained by a fedOld McDonald said:
this post (and honestly many from OP) feels like it was written by a fed
People that dont pay attention to posting history need to leave the room.
richardag said:Define center left based onaggiedent said:
" Why are we running Trump? He is a center LEFT moderate who is now probably going to lose."
FIFY
Agenda 47
1 SEAL THE BORDER AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION
2 CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY
3 END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN
4 MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!
5 STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER
6 LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!
7 DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
8 PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND BUILD A GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY -- ALL MADE IN AMERICA
9 END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
10 STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS, CRUSH GANG VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS
11 REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN, AND BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
12 STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD
13 KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD'S RESERVE CURRENCY
14 FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE
15 CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME REGULATIONS
16 CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL GENDER IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL CONTENT ON OUR CHILDREN
17 KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN'S SPORTS
18 DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND PATRIOTIC AGAIN
19 SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION, PAPER BALLOTS, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP
20 UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS
Sooo....I guess the solution is to keep doing the same old thing and then wonder why nothing changes then?Phatbob said:Except he's only slightly wrong. The problem is not Trump, he's problematic, but not THE problem. The problem is us thinking that Trump is actually a good response to the left. If you want to tell anyone to look in the "fuggin mirror", your entire post details why we are "fugged". Instead of doing what fixes anything, we decide that we just need someone who is an a-hole back with no regard to what actually needs to be done.schmellba99 said:This is what all of the concerned moderates and never Trumpers and "I will just stay at home and not vote" morons just can't seem to get through their dense AF heads.TheWoodlandsTxAg said:Kamala winning by 11 head to head and by 12 in the extended ballot in Michigan is devastating:whatthehey78 said:
Okay Kamala...whatever you say.
https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls
Trump is losing by double digits in a swing state to a Marxist when all of the polls are saying that the electorate supports Republicans heavily on 6 of the top 7 issues (abortion being the only one they don't). Trump is the problem.
Trump is not the problem. He never has been.
Trump is the end result of decades of "oh golly gee shucks!" spineless republican leadership that trots out Bush and McCain and Romney and whomever else that is a damned jellyfish and who was absolutely terrified to say something mean back to the Dems in between their constant barrage of calling R's nazis and misogynists and warmongers and whatever else.
Trump is the end result of what happens when you have voters that are more concerned about how their neighbors and friends might percieve them if they find out they didn't vote for the black guy. Trump is the end result of what happens when you have people that claim they are "tired of how things are", then turn around and follow that statement up with a "buuuuuttttttttt......" and proceed to spend the next 10 minutes stammering and backpedaling making excuses for how things are. Trump is the end result of people that talk politics at the office around the coffee machine but then suddenly go into hushed whispers or silent mode when Karen The Libtard walks in because they are scared of offending her even though she has zero fears about saying whatever she wants or offending everybody else with her existence.
Trump is what happens when people finally get tired of the bland otameal politicians and hear somebody that isn't afraid to say what needs to be said, and say it unapologetically. And when somebody says "what did you say?!?!?", he says it again. Louder. More foreceful. Less apologetically then before.
You don't want Trump? Get politicians that aren't giant vaginas and that have the fortitude to take a stance and hold their ground even when the left tries to attack that stance. Get politcians that aren't afraid of upsetting a group of people that will never like them or be on their side no matter what. Get politicians that seem to actually put the country first and make no bones about stating to the world that we are Americans, and America is our priority.
You want to know what the problem is? Look in the fuggin mirror. The answer will be staring back at you.
If DeSantis thought he was going to win New Hampshire or South Carolina or Nevada or a good portion of the super Tuesday states, he would have stayed in the race. But he wasn't.TheWoodlandsTxAg said:The GOP primary voters in one state (Iowa) made the decision for the rest of the electorate.Gig em G said:
The GOP made their bed and must lie in it now.
Democrats just changed their candidate a week ago after Biden won their primary. Biden was getting destroyed in the polls and was headed for a landslide defeat so they removed him.
Why can't we do the same?
It is only fair.
Desantis is the most effective post Cold War political leader in the US.
Desantis has completely destroyed the Democrats in Florida and turned them into a joke in a state that Obama won twice.
Florida is the most diverse state in the country and Desantis won it by 20 points.
Desantis has delivered on every major conservative policy position. From crime prevention to prosperous economic success. Florida is now one of the safest states in the country and California is one of the 10 most dangerous based on new data.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/slideshows/10-most-dangerous-states-in-america?slide=3
Name a conservative politician in the last 40 years with a better conservative political track record of delivering on the issues than Desantis?
Conservatives and Republicans wanted Desantis. We should get Desantis with a Sununu on the ticket to get the moderates. Why do Iowa Republicans get to pick the nominee for the whole country?
And your friends are political 'tards if they let the fact that they don't like how the guy talks or that he isn't the Pope or whatever determine whether to vote for him, vote for the chick that literally got where she is by sucking dick of a married man, or not voting at all.Gig em G said:SA68AG said:
GOP picked the only candidate that could possibly lose to the dems.
Agree 100%. Some of my friends I grew up with are VERY Christian and do not like Trump based on his character and nefarious past associations.
There's a reason he was begging Christians to get out and vote for him last week.
Jbob04 said:Gig em G said:SA68AG said:
GOP picked the only candidate that could possibly lose to the dems.
Agree 100%. Some of my friends I grew up with are VERY Christian and do not like Trump based on his character and nefarious past associations.
There's a reason he was begging Christians to get out and vote for him last week.
Then I guess they can vote for the baby killer democrats?
if anything, a world where everyone votes for politicians based on careful, thoughtful, dispassionate assessment of policy positions and past performance is camelot. that world does not exist and it never will.schmellba99 said:
Camelot never existed, revisionist history doesn't change that fact. Tell yourself and your friends to quit being stupid morons when it comes to expectations for politicians.
For somebody so unlikeable....he seems to get a massive amount of people liking him.Old McDonald said:if anything, a world where everyone votes for politicians based on careful, thoughtful, dispassionate assessment of policy positions and past performance is camelot. that world does not exist and it never will.schmellba99 said:
Camelot never existed, revisionist history doesn't change that fact. Tell yourself and your friends to quit being stupid morons when it comes to expectations for politicians.
people make voting decisions for all kinds of random subjective reasons and they always will, and for better or worse republicans hitched their wagon to someone deeply unlikeable for the past decade