*****Official RNC Day 4 -- July, 18, 2024*****

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Ghost of Bisbee said:

I agree his speech could have been much more condensed. It didn't lean as heavily into unity as I was hoping, but Trump is Trump, and there's nothing to be sad for about that


well you don't listen very well
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TequilaMockingbird
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The D said:

CNN is melting down
Yep. And MSDNC is even worse.
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atmtws said:

CNN unhinged now.

"Typical Trump
"Lies"
"Rally speech"
"He had the whole world in his hands….that incoherent"

Jesus. Tapdancing. Christ.


Orders were in
4stringAg
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For those concerned about people that turned it off after 30-45 minutes. That's just fine. The first 30-45 minutes were riveting with him telling the story of the assassination attempt and also containing the parts about unity and coming together.
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Triple S said:

AnScAggie said:

Harold Ford, Jr has been very fair in my opinion with his analysis on FNC, and I agree this has been a fantastic convention.


Dem or not, I respect that guy.


He's far better than his racist crook father.
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Melania though. Looks amazing as always.

I really hope she decides to come back out and be a more integral part of the campaign. I think she has a story to tell, and not the one libs assume it is.
Baseball Is Life
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A lot of y'all are crazy. Look, I've said this many times, but I voted for Trump in 2016, sat out 2020, and was on the DeSantis train for 2024. With that said, Trump has always been very engaging and easy to listen to. I have been working all day, took a break to watch and couldn't stop listening to him talk.

As others have said, Trump has earned the right to say what he wants and for as long as he wants. He has a lot of things he wants to say and most are of interest to anybody that isn't a part of the rabid left. The left wants him to shut up because they know he's reaching people. So, they put out talking points and some conservatives buy into those talking points.

My Dad has tried to steered me away from politics the last few years . He tells me there is no reason to concern yourself with something, when you can't change it (non election years), so don't get so invested in it... My old man watched the whole Trump speech and enjoyed it.



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Your father is wise
4stringAg
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Republicans are united with a lot of momentum. Dems are in disarray.
rondis23
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CNN bashing as always. Yet, they can't bash NO flubs, calling people the wrong names, and not knowing where to walk on the stage.
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4stringAg said:

For those concerned about people that turned it off after 30-45 minutes. That's just fine. The first 30-45 minutes were riveting with him telling the story of the assassination attempt and also containing the parts about unity and coming together.
This.

They were smart to have him start that way, and then have him do his "Trump" thing of going off script.

But even with the second half of the speech, he was very careful to barely mention any Dem by name or insulting them. He focused on policy and the problems the country is facing.

I also personally think Trump wanted to go long tonight as a defiant show of strength. "Ya didn't get me. I'm stronger than ever. I'm going to win"
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TequilaMockingbird said:

The D said:

CNN is melting down
Yep. And MSDNC is even worse.

They are losing their mind
Joes
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4stringAg said:

Republicans are united with a lot of momentum. Dems are in disarray.


I just hope it stays that way and they don't figure out how to swap in Newsom or someone like that. They can become monolithic fast.
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Go win bigly, President Trump
Charlie 31
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This 2024 Republican National Convention in Milwaukee was the best national convention I have ever watched; a political convention for the ages. I am going to miss it.
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Did he ever say when he plans to load his opponents into box cars? Because I have been assured that he plans to do just that.
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Yup and all the care about is that it was too long.
zgolfz85
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We're trying to win an election and sway voters who'd ordinarily vote dem. Sorry, but tonight was a missed opportunity. It wasn't a disaster, but a missed opportunity for sure. He should've stuck to the humility/unification tone, been short and sweet on how he's focused on fixing the border, inflation, foreign relations, etc. Instead, he rambled on for 45 mins too long and opened up the door for criticism.

I'm not a Chris Wallace fan, obviously….but agree with what he just said on CNN, which was that Trump could've kept it short and sweet and shut the door on this election. Instead, he just opened the door a bit unnecessarily.

Put the opposition hat on. You have to if you want to win. Tonight could've been a slam dunk. Missed opportunity unfortunately.
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zgolfz85 said:

We're trying to win an election and sway voters who'd ordinarily vote dem. Sorry, but tonight was a missed opportunity. It wasn't a disaster, but a missed opportunity for sure. He should've stuck to the humility/unification tone, been short and sweet on how he's focused on fixing the border, inflation, foreign relations, etc. Instead, he rambled on for 45 mins too long and opened up the door for criticism.

I'm not a Chris Wallace fan, obviously….but agree with what he just said on CNN, which was that Trump could've kept it short and sweet and shut the door on this election. Instead, he just opened the door a bit unnecessarily.

Put the opposition hat on. You have to if you want to win. Tonight could've been a slam dunk. Missed opportunity unfortunately.


This is a fair assessment
Joes
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Rockdoc said:

AnScAggie said:

Harold Ford, Jr has been very fair in my opinion with his analysis on FNC, and I agree this has been a fantastic convention.

Yes, a crap ton better than Juan Williams or some of the other lefties they've had.


Yeah, he's always very good and fair. I've never once been frustrated with anything he's said whether I agree or not. Juan and especially Jessica are maddening even though they're outnumbered.
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4stringAg said:

Republicans are united with a lot of momentum. Dems are in disarray.
This is the key.

The last two time Trump was up for election, the GOP AND their supporters were in disarray and not focused towards helping Trump get elected. In fact, a lot of prominent GOP people either stayed out OR they worked against him.

THIS TIME, the whole party is working to elect him. BIG difference.
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zgolfz85 said:

We're trying to win an election and sway voters who'd ordinarily vote dem. Sorry, but tonight was a missed opportunity. It wasn't a disaster, but a missed opportunity for sure. He should've stuck to the humility/unification tone, been short and sweet on how he's focused on fixing the border, inflation, foreign relations, etc. Instead, he rambled on for 45 mins too long and opened up the door for criticism.

I'm not a Chris Wallace fan, obviously….but agree with what he just said on CNN, which was that Trump could've kept it short and sweet and shut the door on this election. Instead, he just opened the door a bit unnecessarily.

Put the opposition hat on. You have to if you want to win. Tonight could've been a slam dunk. Missed opportunity unfortunately.


Chris Wallace would never say Trump nailed anything. Even if he did exactly what was described, there is zero chance Chris Wallace would have said Trump shut the door on the election. That was the most tame and unifying Trump has ever been while staying on brand and bringing substance.
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No one is getting motivated or demotivated to vote over the back half of an hour plus long speech. The first half was really good and even that didn't matter. Chris and everyone else knows this thing is over. He is just trying to keep their audience entertained so they tune in for more coverage.
Ag with kids
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Yes the speech was long.

Contrast it with BILL CLINTON speeches where he talked FOREVER.

Except Trump is 35+ years older and still is able to do that.

UNLIKE...a certain someone that was not named during the speech.
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zgolfz85
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BQRyno said:

zgolfz85 said:

We're trying to win an election and sway voters who'd ordinarily vote dem. Sorry, but tonight was a missed opportunity. It wasn't a disaster, but a missed opportunity for sure. He should've stuck to the humility/unification tone, been short and sweet on how he's focused on fixing the border, inflation, foreign relations, etc. Instead, he rambled on for 45 mins too long and opened up the door for criticism.

I'm not a Chris Wallace fan, obviously….but agree with what he just said on CNN, which was that Trump could've kept it short and sweet and shut the door on this election. Instead, he just opened the door a bit unnecessarily.

Put the opposition hat on. You have to if you want to win. Tonight could've been a slam dunk. Missed opportunity unfortunately.


Chris Wallace would never say Trump nailed anything. Even if he did exactly what was described, there is zero chance Chris Wallace would have said Trump shut the door on the election. That was the most tame and unifying Trump has ever been while staying on brand and bringing substance.


Again, take your Trump fan Republican hat off. That's what I'm trying to do. He could've said anything up there and you and I would still vote for the guy. That's not what tonight was for. The world's eyes were on him and he missed an opportunity. It went from humble and toned down to grandstanding and controversial comments…which didn't have to be made. We know the 2020 election was rigged…not the point tonight, yet he made probably 5 comments about cheating in 2020. Why?! Nothing matters if he misses the WH. Why the **** would he take any risks tonight or until November. Just get back into the WH and then brag as much as you want. It's not hard. You can't do anything if you don't win. It's not the time to take risks.
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Baseball Is Life said:

A lot of y'all are crazy. Look, I've said this many times, but I voted for Trump in 2016, sat out 2020, and was on the DeSantis train for 2024. With that said, Trump has always been very engaging and easy to listen to. I have been working all day, took a break to watch and couldn't stop listening to him talk.

As others have said, Trump has earned the right to say what he wants and for as long as he wants. He has a lot of things he wants to say and most are of interest to anybody that isn't a part of the rabid left. The left wants him to shut up because they know he's reaching people. So, they put out talking points and some conservatives buy into those talking points.

My Dad has tried to steered me away from politics the last few years . He tells me there is no reason to concern yourself with something, when you can't change it (non election years), so don't get so invested in it... My old man watched the whole Trump speech and enjoyed it.






You just got a blue star from me sir. I wish I could allocate more to your post
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BoydCrowder13 said:

zgolfz85 said:

We're trying to win an election and sway voters who'd ordinarily vote dem. Sorry, but tonight was a missed opportunity. It wasn't a disaster, but a missed opportunity for sure. He should've stuck to the humility/unification tone, been short and sweet on how he's focused on fixing the border, inflation, foreign relations, etc. Instead, he rambled on for 45 mins too long and opened up the door for criticism.

I'm not a Chris Wallace fan, obviously….but agree with what he just said on CNN, which was that Trump could've kept it short and sweet and shut the door on this election. Instead, he just opened the door a bit unnecessarily.

Put the opposition hat on. You have to if you want to win. Tonight could've been a slam dunk. Missed opportunity unfortunately.


Yep. He had a great open and first 20 minutes. Could have had a great, simple unifying speech. He already sounded light years better than Biden since he made it through a couple sentences without losing his train of thought.

But then he defaulted to the typical 90 minutes of Trump rally. Unnecessary considering he already looked far more resilient than Biden.

I'd assume most bailed after the first 30 minutes. So kind of lost the big dramatic finish. Not a big deal but wasted opportunity to finish the election.
He typically goes ~60 minutes. He went extra for Saturday. First 30 minutes is what mattered most. Everything else is just laughing at his age. It won't matter in the end. It's over.
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TyHolden said:

BoydCrowder13 said:

zgolfz85 said:

We're trying to win an election and sway voters who'd ordinarily vote dem. Sorry, but tonight was a missed opportunity. It wasn't a disaster, but a missed opportunity for sure. He should've stuck to the humility/unification tone, been short and sweet on how he's focused on fixing the border, inflation, foreign relations, etc. Instead, he rambled on for 45 mins too long and opened up the door for criticism.

I'm not a Chris Wallace fan, obviously….but agree with what he just said on CNN, which was that Trump could've kept it short and sweet and shut the door on this election. Instead, he just opened the door a bit unnecessarily.

Put the opposition hat on. You have to if you want to win. Tonight could've been a slam dunk. Missed opportunity unfortunately.


Yep. He had a great open and first 20 minutes. Could have had a great, simple unifying speech. He already sounded light years better than Biden since he made it through a couple sentences without losing his train of thought.

But then he defaulted to the typical 90 minutes of Trump rally. Unnecessary considering he already looked far more resilient than Biden.

I'd assume most bailed after the first 30 minutes. So kind of lost the big dramatic finish. Not a big deal but wasted opportunity to finish the election.
He typically goes ~60 minutes. He went extra for Saturday. First 30 minutes is what mattered most. Everything else is just laughing at his age. It won't matter in the end. It's over.


I wish I had as much confidence as you do. It's going to be much closer in November than what polls show. Cheating will be out of control. We need every vote we can get. Not a time to take silly risks in speeches right now.
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Ag with kids said:

Yes the speech was long.

Contrast it with BILL CLINTON speeches where he talked FOREVER.

Except Trump is 35+ years older and still is able to do that.

UNLIKE...a certain someone that was not named during the speech.


Named once.
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zgolfz85 said:

BQRyno said:

zgolfz85 said:

We're trying to win an election and sway voters who'd ordinarily vote dem. Sorry, but tonight was a missed opportunity. It wasn't a disaster, but a missed opportunity for sure. He should've stuck to the humility/unification tone, been short and sweet on how he's focused on fixing the border, inflation, foreign relations, etc. Instead, he rambled on for 45 mins too long and opened up the door for criticism.

I'm not a Chris Wallace fan, obviously….but agree with what he just said on CNN, which was that Trump could've kept it short and sweet and shut the door on this election. Instead, he just opened the door a bit unnecessarily.

Put the opposition hat on. You have to if you want to win. Tonight could've been a slam dunk. Missed opportunity unfortunately.


Chris Wallace would never say Trump nailed anything. Even if he did exactly what was described, there is zero chance Chris Wallace would have said Trump shut the door on the election. That was the most tame and unifying Trump has ever been while staying on brand and bringing substance.


Again, take your Trump fan Republican hat off. That's what I'm trying to do. He could've said anything up there and you and I would still vote for the guy. That's not what tonight was for. The world's eyes were on him and he missed an opportunity. It went from humble and toned down to grandstanding and controversial comments…which didn't have to be made. We know the 2020 election was rigged…not the point tonight, yet he made probably 5 comments about cheating in 2020. Why?! Nothing matters if he misses the WH. Why the **** would he take any risks tonight or until November. Just get back into the WH and then brag as much as you want. It's not hard. You can't do anything if you don't win. It's not the time to take risks.


I guess where we disagree is I don't think the world's eyes were on him. Political junkies' eyes were on him. How many people watch the RNC or DNC nominee speech? I can't imagine it's a large number. No matter what he says in that speech, nobody watching is going to change his or her mind.
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techno-ag said:


I fell happily victim to advertising on my Instagram account that knows me too well and there is a canvas of this showing up at my house tomorrow that says "Legends Never Die" with Trump's signature on it and the date.

Cannot wait to hang it.
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Finish the election…

That doesn't happen until he's sworn in.

The Dems will have a new ticket, cheat, and maybe even try to kill Trump again or do another impeachment hearing.
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zgolfz85 said:

TyHolden said:

BoydCrowder13 said:

zgolfz85 said:

We're trying to win an election and sway voters who'd ordinarily vote dem. Sorry, but tonight was a missed opportunity. It wasn't a disaster, but a missed opportunity for sure. He should've stuck to the humility/unification tone, been short and sweet on how he's focused on fixing the border, inflation, foreign relations, etc. Instead, he rambled on for 45 mins too long and opened up the door for criticism.

I'm not a Chris Wallace fan, obviously….but agree with what he just said on CNN, which was that Trump could've kept it short and sweet and shut the door on this election. Instead, he just opened the door a bit unnecessarily.

Put the opposition hat on. You have to if you want to win. Tonight could've been a slam dunk. Missed opportunity unfortunately.


Yep. He had a great open and first 20 minutes. Could have had a great, simple unifying speech. He already sounded light years better than Biden since he made it through a couple sentences without losing his train of thought.

But then he defaulted to the typical 90 minutes of Trump rally. Unnecessary considering he already looked far more resilient than Biden.

I'd assume most bailed after the first 30 minutes. So kind of lost the big dramatic finish. Not a big deal but wasted opportunity to finish the election.
He typically goes ~60 minutes. He went extra for Saturday. First 30 minutes is what mattered most. Everything else is just laughing at his age. It won't matter in the end. It's over.


I wish I had as much confidence as you do. It's going to be much closer in November than what polls show. Cheating will be out of control. We need every vote we can get. Not a time to take silly risks in speeches right now.
CNN guy is saying 300 is actually optimistic for Blue right now. Long way to go but it would take something like last Saturday to change the map. If cheating wins, then good luck with red having all those guns and people like Elon. He doesn't even need the rust belt to win at this point.
 
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