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In reply to nortex97 • 9:50a, 5/22/24
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nortex97 said:
Trump essentially cruising on the gambling market:



Nevada the only battleground really that looks at this point like it is going to be a 'tough pull:'



I would think the unions around Vegas would strongly want Xiden gone.


Seems PA and WI would be tough pulls, and more important, than NV.

NV is only important if Omaha switches its vote from Biden to Trump
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In reply to texagbeliever • 9:51a, 5/22/24
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The one with Lizzo?
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In reply to BadMoonRisin • 9:54a, 5/22/24
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The one with Lizzo?
Yes the one with the fat shamming, sexual abuser Lizzo.
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10:06a, 5/22/24
I hate Biden as much as anyone, but this idea that you can tell how many votes he got nationally from rally pictures is comical.

Clearly, the election was almost entirely about Trump. Voting against Trump is not the same thing as enthusiasm for Biden. We all know there wasn't any of that. The problem is so many around here will proudly talk about all the mainstream media they won't watch or listen to because of their politics and then they seem shocked that the majority of the public sees things completely differently. It was basically 4 years of nothing but the most extreme anti-Trump propaganda imaginable from every direction that most of the country saw and heard, that apparently a lot of you are completely oblivious about. There's no question in my mind that he was the most hated man in America, politician or otherwise, by fall of 2020.

The polls consistently showed Biden with a strong national lead from May onward that year, peaking at over 10 points in late July. The very same polls that people are excited about that show Trump with a lead now.

The constant mockery of the 81 million number implies that it wasn't even just a strategic cheating of tens of thousands here and there where it mattered, but literally many millions or even tens of millions of faked votes. This is insane.

So judging from that picture since you guys evidently can, how many votes did Biden really get? 60 million votes? 20 million votes? Twelve votes?
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In reply to BadMoonRisin • 11:43a, 5/22/24
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BadMoonRisin said:


81M my ass.
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In reply to Joes • 11:49a, 5/22/24
Joes said:
I hate Biden as much as anyone, but this idea that you can tell how many votes he got nationally from rally pictures is comical.

Clearly, the election was almost entirely about Trump. Voting against Trump is not the same thing as enthusiasm for Biden. We all know there wasn't any of that. The problem is so many around here will proudly talk about all the mainstream media they won't watch or listen to because of their politics and then they seem shocked that the majority of the public sees things completely differently. It was basically 4 years of nothing but the most extreme anti-Trump propaganda imaginable from every direction that most of the country saw and heard, that apparently a lot of you are completely oblivious about. There's no question in my mind that he was the most hated man in America, politician or otherwise, by fall of 2020.

The polls consistently showed Biden with a strong national lead from May onward that year, peaking at over 10 points in late July. The very same polls that people are excited about that show Trump with a lead now.

The constant mockery of the 81 million number implies that it wasn't even just a strategic cheating of tens of thousands here and there where it mattered, but literally many millions or even tens of millions of faked votes. This is insane.

So judging from that picture since you guys evidently can, how many votes did Biden really get? 60 million votes? 20 million votes? Twelve votes?
I hate Biden as much as the next guy... but let me goal tend for Biden now.

Biden was up by over 10 points and dominated in largely liberal areas. But it took 5 states to stop counting in their urban areas that then discovered way more votes for Biden than Trump in order for Biden to win those swing states. Add in that Biden lost 17 of the 18 bellweather counties that have traditionally predicted the election winner.

Sorry but a sham is easy to call a sham when you aren't playing it like a team sport.
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In reply to Joes • 11:50a, 5/22/24
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Joes said:
I hate Biden as much as anyone, but this idea that you can tell how many votes he got nationally from rally pictures is comical.

Clearly, the election was almost entirely about Trump. Voting against Trump is not the same thing as enthusiasm for Biden. We all know there wasn't any of that. The problem is so many around here will proudly talk about all the mainstream media they won't watch or listen to because of their politics and then they seem shocked that the majority of the public sees things completely differently. It was basically 4 years of nothing but the most extreme anti-Trump propaganda imaginable from every direction that most of the country saw and heard, that apparently a lot of you are completely oblivious about. There's no question in my mind that he was the most hated man in America, politician or otherwise, by fall of 2020.

The polls consistently showed Biden with a strong national lead from May onward that year, peaking at over 10 points in late July. The very same polls that people are excited about that show Trump with a lead now.

The constant mockery of the 81 million number implies that it wasn't even just a strategic cheating of tens of thousands here and there where it mattered, but literally many millions or even tens of millions of faked votes. This is insane.

So judging from that picture since you guys evidently can, how many votes did Biden really get? 60 million votes? 20 million votes? Twelve votes?
MIB + ballot harvesting + Dominion shenanigans definitely led to millions of fabricated ballots. Sure, they concentrated the cheating to the urban centers of the 5 swing states but those Zuck bucks went all over the country.

It's impossible to say how many but if you think it was just in "tens of thousands" in those 5 swing states you clearly underestimate their cheating.

Were there a lot of anti-Trump votes...of course but more than that it led to thousands of folks motivated to cheat like never before "to save democracy" and making some nice money through Zuckerberg's generous donations.
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In reply to nortex97 • 12:21p, 5/22/24
nortex97 said:
Trump essentially cruising on the gambling market:



Nevada the only battleground really that looks at this point like it is going to be a 'tough pull:'



I would think the unions around Vegas would strongly want Xiden gone.
Nevada is going Trump, it has been moving Republican since Reid died. RFK will help Trump in this state as well, by a lot. Same in Arizona

Would like to see some Omaha polls, Trump won that in 2016. Hopefully he does not have to depend on that 1 point.

Now lets look at Maine, Trump has a decent chance to win 3 electoral votes from there. The last poll done was in February so this is very flimsy, but as you can see he is up in Maine by 6 pts in general statewide and he is up huge for the single rural electoral vote

Could we see Trump win 3 pts from Maine?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/maine/
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In reply to 2023NCAggies • 7:09a, 5/23/24
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I haven't seen any Omaha polls, but agree. More supporting polls showing that with RFK included Trump's margin expands:

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11:07a, 5/23/24
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Odds now at Trump -130 / Biden +135 at Bovada, so that follows the betting trend in the tweet. FJB and boot his sorry ass out.
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11:24a, 5/23/24
PredictIt is the largest politics betting site and still has the democrats winning the November elections:

Dems 53% chance to win, GOP 50%
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In reply to nortex97 • 11:26a, 5/23/24
if we had an excellent debater such as Cruz, Romney, DeSantis, Haley

the GOP should be begging to include Robert Kennedy in the debates to take more disaffacted Biden voters.

as we are saddled with Trump, they likely will not want Kennedy showing up the 80 year olds.
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11:28a, 5/23/24
I would like to see the breakdown of of the Morning Consult, Harvard/Harris and NYtimes/Sienna polls

Those are lib polling operations, so Trump being so high up in those seems fishy

How many Dems vs Republicans were polled

They must have some merit because the Dems have been going crazy with lies and gaslighting for 6 months.

The DNC has a huge cash advantage and have spent way more than the RNC, they brag about the ground game but it has yet to make a dent in the polling.

I laugh because they always spend a lot of money for not, a lot of the time. In 2020 Bloomberg spent over 75 million in Florida alone and it made no difference, have not heard a peep from that moron lol
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In reply to LMCane • 12:04p, 5/23/24
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LMCane said:
PredictIt is the largest politics betting site and still has the democrats winning the November elections:

Dems 53% chance to win, GOP 50%

Hard to believe there are that many idiots out there, isn't it.
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In reply to Rockdoc • 12:13p, 5/23/24
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Rockdoc said:
LMCane said:
PredictIt is the largest politics betting site and still has the democrats winning the November elections:

Dems 53% chance to win, GOP 50%

Hard to believe there are that many idiots out there, isn't it.


There are the idiots who would actually vote for Biden. Then, there are the idiots who would actually bet money on Trump winning.

In my opinion:
Biden should never get re-elected.
Trump will never be president again.
In a fair election, Trump would be elected president this November.
Our "elections" are not fair; there is way too much corruption to trust "election results" as reported.
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In reply to 2023NCAggies • 12:39p, 5/23/24
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2023NCAggies said:
the Dems have been going crazy with lies and gaslighting for 6 months years
FIFY
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In reply to LMCane • 12:44p, 5/23/24
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LMCane said:
if we had an excellent debater such as Cruz, Romney, DeSantis, Haley
Haley is an excellent debater? I'd list a whole lot of people over her.


just off the top of my head, Glen Youngkin, Lee Zeldin, Thomas Massey, Rand Paul, Byron Donalds, JD Vance, Vivek Ramaswamy.
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In reply to LMCane • 2:35p, 5/23/24
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Why would Trump legitimize Kennedy to take Trump voters? Its not like Kennedy would only debate Biden.

Let poopy pants shat himself.
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8:21p, 5/23/24
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8:23p, 5/23/24

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3898
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When independent and Green Party candidates are added to the presidential matchup, Biden receives 41 percent support, Trump receives 38 percent support, independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. receives 14 percent support, Green Party candidate Jill Stein receives 2 percent support, and independent candidate Cornel West receives 2 percent support.
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In reply to SoyTanLento • 8:24p, 5/23/24
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You ready for 4 more wonderful Biden years?
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In reply to Rockdoc • 8:26p, 5/23/24
I'd like 4 years without a geriatric moron.
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In reply to SoyTanLento • 8:27p, 5/23/24
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ImSoDumb said:
I'd like 4 years without a geriatric moron.

That's Biden I'm pretty sure
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In reply to LMCane • 8:59p, 5/23/24
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LMCane said:
PredictIt is the largest politics betting site and still has the democrats winning the November elections:

Dems 53% chance to win, GOP 50%
they have a grasp of the illegals and dead people voting.
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9:04p, 5/23/24
Trump with massive rally in the Bronx. At least 8 to 10k in a venue that holds 3,500.

This election is different. He needs to do this in all the big cities. Philly, Atlanta, Detroit, Milwaukee etc.

F it. Why not?
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In reply to 2023NCAggies • 9:15p, 5/23/24
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He has momentum with the demographic for sure.
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9:28p, 5/23/24
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A massive disparity in people at rallies and public enthusiasm doesn't equate to the number mass mailed ballots counted when the process lacks controls and results are predetermined though. Seen this story already before. As Joe Stalin and Joe Biden both said, it's who counts the votes.
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In reply to oh no • 9:32p, 5/23/24
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That's why they're sticking with Joe. They know they can steal it.
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In reply to 2023NCAggies • 12:19a, 5/24/24
2023NCAggies said:
nortex97 said:
Trump essentially cruising on the gambling market:



Nevada the only battleground really that looks at this point like it is going to be a 'tough pull:'



I would think the unions around Vegas would strongly want Xiden gone.
Nevada is going Trump, it has been moving Republican since Reid died. RFK will help Trump in this state as well, by a lot. Same in Arizona

Would like to see some Omaha polls, Trump won that in 2016. Hopefully he does not have to depend on that 1 point.

Now lets look at Maine, Trump has a decent chance to win 3 electoral votes from there. The last poll done was in February so this is very flimsy, but as you can see he is up in Maine by 6 pts in general statewide and he is up huge for the single rural electoral vote

Could we see Trump win 3 pts from Maine?

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/maine/
You know Biden and the Democrats are disenchanted with the odds of him being re-elected when they move to stop the publication and wagering on odds of Biden and the Democrats winning re-election.

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A federal regulator has voted on Friday to move forward on a plan that would attempt to ban wagering on elections, award shows and some sporting events.
The provision would ban specific betting exchanges, which typically hold markets that aren't based on actions on the field such as who the next coach of a team will be and who will win an award voted on by third-party judges.
Some of these services include PredictIt, which allows the public to bet on the outcome of elections and whether laws will be enacted by the state or federal government. Wagers on sports with traditional sportsbooks such as DraftKings and FanDuel would be unaffected, although those books do not host markets such as political elections in the United States.
The vote on Friday by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) would put the proposed regulation up for public review, and the proposal won't be official until the commissioners approve a final version. A vote may take months to come into fruition, the Wall Street Journal reported on Friday.
https://www.actionnetwork.com/general/federal-regulator-seeks-ban-on-election-award-show-betting
Author of the TexAgs Post of The Day - May 31, 2024

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In reply to oh no • 7:55a, 5/24/24
oh no said:
A massive disparity in people at rallies and public enthusiasm doesn't equate to the number mass mailed ballots counted when the process lacks controls and results are predetermined though. Seen this story already before. As Joe Stalin and Joe Biden both said, it's who counts the votes.
Um he pulled 25k in the Bronx. Big Cities cheat, but if he is pulling these people in, that area will be harder to cheat in.

80+k in New Jersey and now 25k in the Bronx. He can probably go in to inner Philly, Harlam, surrounding suburbs in bigger cities and pull a good portion of support. Hell go in to Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Atlanta, Detroit and North Virginia

That many people in the Bronx, sorry to burst your bubble but that says something

Republicans might not get much support in these areas for a reason, we never go try. You start pulling over 20% in these area and it is over. Also you can keep working on turning it redder in the future

He has the support of a lot of Unions and they are a huge part of the city and state. People up there obviously hate the immigrant invasion as well

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In reply to LMCane • 8:09a, 5/24/24
LMCane said:
if we had an excellent debater such as Cruz, Romney, DeSantis, Haley

the GOP should be begging to include Robert Kennedy in the debates to take more disaffacted Biden voters.

as we are saddled with Trump, they likely will not want Kennedy showing up the 80 year olds.
It would have been a BRILLIANT move if Trump asked for RFK to be in the debates. He still should try to demand it.

It would put the Biden campaign in a huge mud hole. You now have to announce your are a cooch and do not want it. Publicly.

So it is a win win for Trump, make Biden look like scared old turd. That alone gets RFK A LOT of air time. It does a lot, probably the biggest would be exposing RFK as the nutty left candidate, solidifying the R base for Trump

And if the debate happened, if Trump played the debate right, he could make it a shout match between RFK and Biden
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In reply to 2023NCAggies • 8:20a, 5/24/24
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I think I read RFK needs one more poll over 15 for him to qualify. I assume Joseph Robinette Biden wouldn't want both of them on the stage with him. He'd probably get confused why Ted Kennedy was there.

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In reply to 2023NCAggies • 8:24a, 5/24/24
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2023NCAggies said:
oh no said:
A massive disparity in people at rallies and public enthusiasm doesn't equate to the number mass mailed ballots counted when the process lacks controls and results are predetermined though. Seen this story already before. As Joe Stalin and Joe Biden both said, it's who counts the votes.
Um he pulled 25k in the Bronx. Big Cities cheat, but if he is pulling these people in, that area will be harder to cheat in.

80+k in New Jersey and now 25k in the Bronx. He can probably go in to inner Philly, Harlam, surrounding suburbs in bigger cities and pull a good portion of support. Hell go in to Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Atlanta, Detroit and North Virginia

That many people in the Bronx, sorry to burst your bubble but that says something

Republicans might not get much support in these areas for a reason, we never go try. You start pulling over 20% in these area and it is over. Also you can keep working on turning it redder in the future

He has the support of a lot of Unions and they are a huge part of the city and state. People up there obviously hate the immigrant invasion as well

I also wonder if he has that much support in urban areas there might be an increase in number of whistle blowers to expose something early on although it depends on who is investigating it. That's where it gets tricky...might be better off providing each city Republican friendly authorities they can contact directly.
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In reply to nortex97 • 8:40a, 5/24/24
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nortex97 said:
I Biden wouldn't want both of them on the stage with him. He'd probably get confused why Ted Kennedy was there.



That would be absolutely hilarious.
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10:19a, 5/24/24
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I know nothing about polls.

I subscribe to the NYT for its games and recently took them up on a good deal to subscribe to the paper, though I hate to give them my money.

Today they had an article essentially saying that it is possible that Trump's lead is based largely on voters who traditionally are not engaged politically and who do not usually vote. Those votes are "soft," I guess is what they're saying.


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The polls have shown Donald Trump with an edge for eight straight months, but there's a sign his advantage might not be quite as stable as it looks: His lead is built on gains among voters who aren't paying close attention to politics, who don't follow traditional news and who don't regularly vote.

Disengaged voters on the periphery of the electorate are driving the polling results --and the story line-- about the election.

President Biden has actually led the last three New York Times/Siena national polls among those who voted in the 2020 election, even as he has trailed among registered voters overall. And looking back over the last few years, almost all of Trump's gains came from these less engaged voters.


I was fooled by the polls in 2016 (thankfully) and in 2020 (sadly), so I don't know what to think anymore.
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