Tramp96 said:

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There is a reason our Founding Fathers didn't want women or non-land owners to vote.

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Age also. Alot easier to be a liberal when your parents are paying the bills.

Export of american progressivism and sub culture to the world

Social media

As women have gained more power with out having done the physical labor (either the building or the fighting) and essentially rode the coattails of the men before them, they've been able to force their worldview more broadly. Men are choosing a natural response of going in the opposite direction in their belief system

There's an interview that Jordan Peterson did with a British lady a couple years ago that is relevant to this convo. He just destroyed her worldview.

Heineken-Ashi said:

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When a single economy (and in this case, an intermingled world economy), gets to a certain point in the long-term debt cycle, the first signs of the cycle ending are..

1. Rise in extreme populism
2. Decay of shared moral values

This has been trickling for decades, jumped with end of Bush, exploded with Obama, and has been going parabolic with 2016 with the steepest part of the curve 2020-present.

Very few ways out of this that don't lead to global war. One of the main ones is a local crisis (think 9/11) that unites a country temporarily and resets sentiment before it resumes its uptrend.

History is not kind to where we are in the cycle.

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This is a US explanation, how would this apply to Nigeria, South Korea, or Brazil? South Korea is a near alien culture and Nigeria and Brazil have hilariously volatile nations from an economic standpoint.

Agthatbuilds said:

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Export of american progressivism and sub culture to the world

Social media

As women have gained more power with out having done the physical labor (either the building or the fighting) and essentially rode the coattails of the men before them, they've been able to force their worldview more broadly. Men are choosing a natural response of going in the opposite direction in their belief system

There's an interview that Jordan Peterson did with a British lady a couple years ago that is relevant to this convo. He just destroyed her worldview.

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You're probably correct on the first part. This is what foreigners have referred to as the Global American Empire or Turbo America where we have exported our culture, both good and bad at warp speed through the internet to all nations on the planet.

Since our culture and values have gone to hell, so will everyone else's because they are just following us.

We are the trend setters in this department. As american dei gains footholds in more western countries, it will get become even more prevalent

Men vote with logic.

Women vote with emotion.

Nanomachines son said:

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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When a single economy (and in this case, an intermingled world economy), gets to a certain point in the long-term debt cycle, the first signs of the cycle ending are..

1. Rise in extreme populism
2. Decay of shared moral values

This has been trickling for decades, jumped with end of Bush, exploded with Obama, and has been going parabolic with 2016 with the steepest part of the curve 2020-present.

Very few ways out of this that don't lead to global war. One of the main ones is a local crisis (think 9/11) that unites a country temporarily and resets sentiment before it resumes its uptrend.

History is not kind to where we are in the cycle.

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This is a US explanation, how would this apply to Nigeria, South Korea, or Brazil? South Korea is a near alien culture and Nigeria and Brazil have hilariously volatile nations from an economic standpoint.

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Read it again. Using US anecdotes to highlight what's happening locally does not make it merely a US explanation, as there are anecdotes across the world.

You are wondering about weeds under the trees a hundred yards away while not understanding the whole forest is on fire.

Thank God I found a woman who is conservative af and hates libs.

Also whats up with every single girl 18-24 on anti anxiety and whatever else drugs? Are they all getting more mentally ill?

Heineken-Ashi said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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When a single economy (and in this case, an intermingled world economy), gets to a certain point in the long-term debt cycle, the first signs of the cycle ending are..

1. Rise in extreme populism
2. Decay of shared moral values

This has been trickling for decades, jumped with end of Bush, exploded with Obama, and has been going parabolic with 2016 with the steepest part of the curve 2020-present.

Very few ways out of this that don't lead to global war. One of the main ones is a local crisis (think 9/11) that unites a country temporarily and resets sentiment before it resumes its uptrend.

History is not kind to where we are in the cycle.

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This is a US explanation, how would this apply to Nigeria, South Korea, or Brazil? South Korea is a near alien culture and Nigeria and Brazil have hilariously volatile nations from an economic standpoint.

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Read it again. Using US anecdotes to highlight what's happening locally does not make it merely a US explanation, as there are anecdotes across the world.

You are wondering about weeds under the trees a hundred yards away while not understanding the whole forest is on fire.

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I know the whole forest in on fire. My point is that it's a far bigger issue than you're indicating. You're seeing a forest on fire when the reality is the planet is being bombarded by asteroids.

This is yet another example of how the internet and social media when combined with women's liberation is effectively an Outside Context Problem (OCP) for humanity. This is likely the major reason for the massive decline in birth rates we are seeing everywhere in all cultures and nations.

Either humanity overcomes this and developes a resistance to it or humanity goes extinct during a global civilizational collapse.

TommyBrady said:

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Thank God I found a woman who is conservative af and hates libs.

Also whats up with every single girl 18-24 on anti anxiety and whatever else drugs? Are they all getting more mentally ill?

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Technology with the younger generation is a HUGE problem. We were not prepared for the consequences nor do we care enough to right things at the moment.

I'm 37 and lived through the transition. Those 50+ I think make light of the toll technology is taking on the younger generation. They were able to socially adjust, as was I.

Technology isn't allowing the younger generation to properly socially adjust and find themselves as they live their lives online. They are finding their validation online in places they shouldn't.

For girls - if you're married, take a peak at what your wife is scrolling through on her phone. For my wife, it's a fair amount of Instagram. We talk about it a lot and she even admits she needs to get off it more. Comparison and judgement among girls is huge, even if they are putting it on themselves. Living their life online through Instagram is a constant barrage of comparison and judgement. That's where the anxiety is coming from.

People ask why men are staying single longer, not getting married, and having less babies. They also are living their lives online and find a lot of their satisfaction there. They find companionship that way and get lost in "hero" adventures in other worlds. It's a medication for the risk of getting out in the world.

On top of that, add in that for the past 30 years schools have been trying to have boys become girls in the classroom. The way society wants to raise boys now is completely opposite of who boys are. They don't sit for 8hrs, but they are medicated to do so. It shouldn't be a surprise a majority of them don't have motivation and a drive. I cannot tell you how many times I've had to remind my wife that my son is not like his sisters and he needs to be able to be adventurous and take a few non-serious dangers every now and then.

If my generation doesn't start taking it seriously with their kids, the course will correct itself, but I guarantee it won't be in a way we like.

Predicted this by how my kids were treated in middle and high school. Trump winning, Hillary and #MeToo made it open season on boys in education
They had classes where the teacher would refuse to ask boys questions, only girls were allowed to win quizzes, engg programs geared only to girls, and pretty much every debate or conversation in high school ending with girls claiming "that's racist"- stupid white lib female to my brown son- or that's sexist

A whole generation of boys who will hate women. A&M has been the saving grace. There is a large , conservative community there that has allowed my kids to blossom.

Nanomachines son said:

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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When a single economy (and in this case, an intermingled world economy), gets to a certain point in the long-term debt cycle, the first signs of the cycle ending are..

1. Rise in extreme populism
2. Decay of shared moral values

This has been trickling for decades, jumped with end of Bush, exploded with Obama, and has been going parabolic with 2016 with the steepest part of the curve 2020-present.

Very few ways out of this that don't lead to global war. One of the main ones is a local crisis (think 9/11) that unites a country temporarily and resets sentiment before it resumes its uptrend.

History is not kind to where we are in the cycle.

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This is a US explanation, how would this apply to Nigeria, South Korea, or Brazil? South Korea is a near alien culture and Nigeria and Brazil have hilariously volatile nations from an economic standpoint.

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Read it again. Using US anecdotes to highlight what's happening locally does not make it merely a US explanation, as there are anecdotes across the world.

You are wondering about weeds under the trees a hundred yards away while not understanding the whole forest is on fire.

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I know the whole forest in on fire. My point is that it's a far bigger issue than you're indicating. You're seeing a forest on fire when the reality is the planet is being bombarded by asteroids.

This is yet another example of how the internet and social media when combined with women's liberation is effectively an Outside Context Problem (OCP) for humanity. This is likely the major reason for the massive decline in birth rates we are seeing everywhere in all cultures and nations.

Either humanity overcomes this and developes a resistance to it or humanity goes extinct during a global civilizational collapse.

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Again missing the point, and likely because I wasn't clear with my attempt at the forest analogy.

You are focused on social sentiment (the weeds) looking for specific examples in other countries (the trees a hundred yards away), and while you think you know the forest is on fire, you don't even know what the forest is, which is a US financed world hundred year debt cycle coming to an end (the forest). Trying to figure out what the weeds are doing is meaningless at this point. Human nature rhymes over history. And we are approaching something far worse than political sentiment between men and women. That's merely a symptom.

Hence why I no longer date. Finding a libertarian or conservative woman in Colorado is impossible.

Chicks were more conservative than dudes in the 80's?

What?

Elon is correct that social media narrowed and skewed the Overton Window by manipulation on a mass scale on twitter. If certain ideas are "extremists" but the other side of the argument is not, you get a huge shift. That is what happened to twitter. I had friends getting their posts shadow banned. During the pandemic we even had some of our own doctors in the state getting suppressed.

fixer said:

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My take: Women are the greater consumers of college education. This is a trend decades in the making and looks to be increasing.

It is that simple.

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Was going to add that we've seen data showing a 60-40 split between women and men attending college now. And we all know colleges have become left wing indoctrination camps.

Heineken-Ashi said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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Nanomachines son said:

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Heineken-Ashi said:

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When a single economy (and in this case, an intermingled world economy), gets to a certain point in the long-term debt cycle, the first signs of the cycle ending are..

1. Rise in extreme populism
2. Decay of shared moral values

This has been trickling for decades, jumped with end of Bush, exploded with Obama, and has been going parabolic with 2016 with the steepest part of the curve 2020-present.

Very few ways out of this that don't lead to global war. One of the main ones is a local crisis (think 9/11) that unites a country temporarily and resets sentiment before it resumes its uptrend.

History is not kind to where we are in the cycle.

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This is a US explanation, how would this apply to Nigeria, South Korea, or Brazil? South Korea is a near alien culture and Nigeria and Brazil have hilariously volatile nations from an economic standpoint.

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Read it again. Using US anecdotes to highlight what's happening locally does not make it merely a US explanation, as there are anecdotes across the world.

You are wondering about weeds under the trees a hundred yards away while not understanding the whole forest is on fire.

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I know the whole forest in on fire. My point is that it's a far bigger issue than you're indicating. You're seeing a forest on fire when the reality is the planet is being bombarded by asteroids.

This is yet another example of how the internet and social media when combined with women's liberation is effectively an Outside Context Problem (OCP) for humanity. This is likely the major reason for the massive decline in birth rates we are seeing everywhere in all cultures and nations.

Either humanity overcomes this and developes a resistance to it or humanity goes extinct during a global civilizational collapse.

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Again missing the point, and likely because I wasn't clear with my attempt at the forest analogy.

You are focused on social sentiment (the weeds) looking for specific examples in other countries (the trees a hundred yards away), and while you think you know the forest is on fire, you don't even know what the forest is, which is a US financed world hundred year debt cycle coming to an end (the forest). Trying to figure out what the weeds are doing is meaningless at this point. Human nature rhymes over history. And we are approaching something far worse than political sentiment between men and women. That's merely a symptom.

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It's not a damn financial issue. Stop trying to make it one. This is exclusive to modern technology. The decline in birth rates and the male/female dynamic are unique in world history. It is unprecedented and has never occurred before in history outside of a pandemic or war. Using historical financial analogues to predict what is happening ignores the OCP that is modern technology and instant global communication. This is effectively as large of a change as the invention of agriculture. What came before cannot be used to predict what will come afterwards.

It's the equivalent of the Aztecs encountering the Spaniards. That's what an OCP is. It's something unforeseen that could never have been predicted that disrupts society so much it results in either societal collapse or such a major restructuring that what comes after is entirely different.

Because the left has been lying to girls for a long time. And too many beta bois are whipped and wont call out the lies - even though it means they are now castrated incels.

Not remotely being crude or exaggerating. That is exactly what has happened. Young Men became bois and put their jewels on chopping block and the girls obliged.

It's absolutely a financial problem. The financial problem created the social problem. Every single cycle has the same patterns throughout history.

Young women are being radicalized by social media and the education system. Young men are able to insulate themselves better from these effects. Looks like trouble w a capital T headed our society's way

I'll point out male dominated societies seem more likely to go to war. Women voting and having political rights seems to decrease the chance a nation goes to war. My hunch. No data to cite.

A lot of complex topics discussed here.

Maybe it isn't that complicated. I look at all this and conclude that maybe women are just okay being lied to as long as it triggers the right emotional responses. That would explain everything.

Women will destroy Western Civilization because they are emotionally led sheep. Feels pretty crazy to actually say, but change my mind.

El Gallo Blanco said:

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Women will destroy Western Civilization. Feels pretty crazy to actually say, but change my mind.

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Liberal white women are trying their best to destroy Western Civilization.
Just because they've emasculated their males, doesn't mean the rest of us will take it.
in fact, the study does show that men are already moving right. In about 20 years from now, when you have a bunch of more bat**** crazy, lonely 40 year old women, the pendulum might swing.

JDL 96 said:

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I'll point out male dominated societies seem more likely to go to war. Women voting and having political rights seems to decrease the chance a nation goes to war. My hunch. No data to cite.

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Did women just start voting in America or sumpn? We love constant war...it's kind of our thing.

Are there any "female dominated" societies? Maybe Canada? And several Euro-socialist pansy nations? Where the governments have waged war on farmers and order ranchers to kill cattle to save the environment etc?

A female dominated society sounds horrible...I would argue that we decline politically and culturally as men get less manly and feminism grows in strength and influence.

My guess is that women have watched what we men have done with pretty much unchecked power for the last millenium or so and said "screw that, we can do much better." I don't blame them.

El Gallo Blanco said:

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A female dominated society sounds horrible...I would argue that we decline politically and culturally as men get less manly and feminism grows in strength and influence.

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Well, there are only two genders, and we've seen what a male dominated society produces.

Young men are constantly being told they are the reason for all the world's problems, they have toxic masculinity, they are not needed by women, etc. Hell, if I was a young man, I would be looking to push back on anybody pushing that narrative which I assume is what is happening.

Gigem314 said:

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I think it's disingenuous to assume most men are simply blindly taking the "opposite position" because women are assumed to be more progressive. But not surprising that some want to portray most men as stupid and simplistic.

I think men are more likely to place the economic priorities of their vote as the primary motivation compared to women. Hence why they aren't drawn into Marxist ideas as much as women.

I mostly think it's because women are targeted significantly more than men from left-leaning movements that minimize economics and real-world results to focus on emotional issues and topics designed to persuade women into feeling oppressed or sympathetic to socialist "shared" ideas.

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Of course it is. What's happening here is young men are realizing modern liberalism is a movement that is screwing them and theyre beginning to fight back against it. They feel threatened because that's an accurate assessment of what's going on around them.

An L of an Ag said:

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Saw some surly dude in HEB last weekend wearing a t-shirt that said "Women Shouldn't Vote"

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Why didn't you say howdy to me?

Heineken-Ashi said:

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It's absolutely a financial problem. The financial problem created the social problem. Every single cycle has the same patterns throughout history.

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Everything socially we are seeing is absolutely uncharted waters. These are things that have never happened before in human history. It's not a financial issue. The financial issues exacerbate but it's a global problem and happening in the 1st world and the developing world.

We know birth rates fall the instant a nation urbanizes with modern technology. This is what we are seeing in Nigeria right now. The problem is far worse than you think it is.

Aggie Apotheosis said:

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My guess is that women have watched what we men have done with pretty much unchecked power for the last millenium or so and said "screw that, we can do much better." I don't blame them.

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In every single case where there has been a female leader, war became more likely to occur and civil strife increased. Next time actually think before you post.

Conservatives, whose primary driver is fear, saying that women are too emotional to be allowed to vote is irony on a scale I'm not sure I've seen before.

Old Army Metal said:

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Conservatives, whose primary driver is fear, saying that women are too emotional to be allowed to vote is irony on a scale I'm not sure I've seen before.

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