JWinTX said:halfastros81 said:
Reagan didn't win the nom in his first attempt . I think a candidate as strong and qualified as Desantis will have a good shot in 2028.
Trump Jr will be the GOP candidate in 2028 as he takes on Gavin Newsom in the Guilfoyle Bowl/White House election. Peak idiocracy.
Agthatbuilds said:J. Walter Weatherman said:Agthatbuilds said:bmks270 said:
DeSantis is a weak orator.
He is a little too wonkish for most.
He's great off the cuff, not so good at connecting on a debate stage
I think for better or worse he's a policy nerd and that's all that he cares about, and he refuses to get into the low brow meme bs that Trump brings to table (just look how that worked for Rubio in '16). That doesn't work currently when a big chunk of the electorate doesn't care about policy and just wants yell "owned!!!" at people on the internet. It is what it is but will hopefully go back to normal after '24.
You can't out low brow Trump. It's an exercise in futility.
DeSantis is good off the cuff. This campaign didn't get him enough time doing that in front of a national audience.
If he does, it will be fun to watch all the posters here crawfish to tell us what a great decision it was to pick her and how good she is.Science Denier said:Faustus said:I think once he threw his hat in the ring no amount trying to hug it out was going to work. Aim for the king better not miss, etc.Science Denier said:
This is not a troll post. I'd like a discussion on DeSantis. However, if it's deemed a troll post, just say so and I'll delete my post.
Should DeSantis have embraced Trump at the beginning? . . .
At least Ted Cruz isn't being accused of cheating or his family being linked to JFK''s assassin this go round. That's kind of like hugging it out.
So, is he going to ask Haley to be his VP candidate?
Jr will never win an election.JWinTX said:halfastros81 said:
Reagan didn't win the nom in his first attempt . I think a candidate as strong and qualified as Desantis will have a good shot in 2028.
Trump Jr will be the GOP candidate in 2028 as he takes on Gavin Newsom in the Guilfoyle Bowl/White House election. Peak idiocracy.
TRM said:
8 trillion more dollars in debt is more conservative.
Trump has trashed just about everyone in his administration. DeSantis would have been untouchable if he hitched his wagon to Trump.Kraft Punk said:
Yes
He should've tied his wagon to the Goat & he'd have been set for 4 years as vp & 8 as president
Not sure who told him to run this dog**** Campaign but my God what a terrible decision
Sq 17 said:Finn said:
Ron received bad advice to get into this race to begin with and should have sat this election out. It was not his time.
The only thing that makes sense is DeSantis thought Trump's legal issues would force Trump to withdraw and DeSantis would be ready to take the nomination.
What's truly baffling is Haley's rise to even or ahead of DeSantis
She's not that good of a politician,
has no built in constituency ,
has no policy points that she is winning on
is not really a conservative and
she is probably going to get to the convention with the second most delegates
Science Denier said:
And now that term limits put him out of Florida governor role, I'm not sure what his next step is. Maybe run for congress? Dude needs to do something to get back to relevance.
Didnt you hear....Desantis was the worst governor regarding Covid in the nationOrwell84 said:
Desantis should have never run. He would be COVID hero and person everybody would want to run, had he stayed on sidelines and kept fighting wokeism.
TA-OP said:Science Denier said:
And now that term limits put him out of Florida governor role, I'm not sure what his next step is. Maybe run for congress? Dude needs to do something to get back to relevance.
Interesting thought here… assuming no 2028 run, wouldn't the best way to catapult himself to the presidency be becoming governor in another conservative state (Texas?) and do what he did for Florida?
Just like Pence, who I can only assume is still Trump's running mateGhost of Andrew Eaton said:Trump has trashed just about everyone in his administration. DeSantis would have been untouchable if he hitched his wagon to Trump.Kraft Punk said:
Yes
He should've tied his wagon to the Goat & he'd have been set for 4 years as vp & 8 as president
Not sure who told him to run this dog**** Campaign but my God what a terrible decision
waitwhat? said:
I don't see Trump winning in November.
If Trump didn't run, Desantis would easily be the frontrunner for the nomination (especially if Trump endorsed him), but he's been forced to spend his campaign talking about Trump.
If Desantis was the GOP nominee, I think he easily wins in November.
Trump very likely cost us the 2024 election.
Cabinet positions rarely give anyone enough exposure to keep them relevant. Senate is a maybe there but he'd probably need more than one term since he doesn't have Obama's race card. A prime time Fox News show? That might do it if conservatives can bring themselves to watch Fox again.Agthatbuilds said:TA-OP said:Science Denier said:
And now that term limits put him out of Florida governor role, I'm not sure what his next step is. Maybe run for congress? Dude needs to do something to get back to relevance.
Interesting thought here… assuming no 2028 run, wouldn't the best way to catapult himself to the presidency be becoming governor in another conservative state (Texas?) and do what he did for Florida?
Senate might be a good option. Or a high level cabinet position should Trump win.
Otherwise, a talk show? Something to keep him top of mind in 2028. By then, we will probably have a whole new set of candidates
YouBet said:Sq 17 said:Finn said:
Ron received bad advice to get into this race to begin with and should have sat this election out. It was not his time.
The only thing that makes sense is DeSantis thought Trump's legal issues would force Trump to withdraw and DeSantis would be ready to take the nomination.
What's truly baffling is Haley's rise to even or ahead of DeSantis
She's not that good of a politician,
has no built in constituency ,
has no policy points that she is winning on
is not really a conservative and
she is probably going to get to the convention with the second most delegates
Because she talks like she's conservative and most of the country has zero clue about her record in SC. Everyone that has heard her speak since this started sees a strong conservative outside of possibly 1-2 topics.
Im confused why this board almost unanimously says she's not. We are ignoring the rest of the country that doesn't follow politics like we do.
He needs to stay TF out of the administration. It would taint him for both MAGA and Not Trump.Agthatbuilds said:TA-OP said:Science Denier said:
And now that term limits put him out of Florida governor role, I'm not sure what his next step is. Maybe run for congress? Dude needs to do something to get back to relevance.
Interesting thought here… assuming no 2028 run, wouldn't the best way to catapult himself to the presidency be becoming governor in another conservative state (Texas?) and do what he did for Florida?
Senate might be a good option. Or a high level cabinet position should Trump win.
Otherwise, a talk show? Something to keep him top of mind in 2028. By then, we will probably have a whole new set of candidates
Once Trump gets the nomination, we're going to see the biggest political bait and switch by the media in modern political history. Trump supporters are blinded to what's about to happen.Maroon Dawn said:
He's the best candidate out there but the media and Dems have masterfully manipulated the GOP base by making Trump a martyr to them and telling them the revenge they crave is guaranteed
Meanwhile Dems are working overtime to make sure there are no obstacles to the 20 million illegals they've allowed in can all vote for Biden in November
BigRobSA said:YouBet said:Sq 17 said:Finn said:
Ron received bad advice to get into this race to begin with and should have sat this election out. It was not his time.
The only thing that makes sense is DeSantis thought Trump's legal issues would force Trump to withdraw and DeSantis would be ready to take the nomination.
What's truly baffling is Haley's rise to even or ahead of DeSantis
She's not that good of a politician,
has no built in constituency ,
has no policy points that she is winning on
is not really a conservative and
she is probably going to get to the convention with the second most delegates
Because she talks like she's conservative and most of the country has zero clue about her record in SC. Everyone that has heard her speak since this started sees a strong conservative outside of possibly 1-2 topics.
Im confused why this board almost unanimously says she's not. We are ignoring the rest of the country that doesn't follow politics like we do.
Haley, conservative?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
And...there it is again.Finn said:
First, I really like Ron DeSantis. Running for president does have a piece that is personality. Ron was horrible in this regard. He needs to understand you can have the best policy but if you cannot get people to like it/you then it is not going to get off the ground.
Secondly, It may be time to rethink your position. If Trump wins primary and it is him versus Biden then the choice should be pretty simple. You can opine how you do not personally like Trump but he is better than Biden if you believe in anything conservative. Even if you get to a point where you say he is less liberal than Biden it is still better than Biden. I do not think he is liberal but that is what a lot of what people try to argue.
Trump hurts your future and your children's future less than Biden. Vote Trump.
Love is blind.Ag87H2O said:Once Trump gets the nomination, we're going to see the biggest political bait and switch by the media in modern political history. Trump supporters are blinded to what's about to happen.Maroon Dawn said:
He's the best candidate out there but the media and Dems have masterfully manipulated the GOP base by making Trump a martyr to them and telling them the revenge they crave is guaranteed
Meanwhile Dems are working overtime to make sure there are no obstacles to the 20 million illegals they've allowed in can all vote for Biden in November
PA24 said:
Abbott could have Trump shore up the Southwest states of N.M. and Az.
That is who I think he picks as his VP.
DeSantis could have been so much for the incumbent but he betrayed Trump. Going to be a tough road for him in politics. That is all I am saying.
She's pretty and being supported by Dims. And she's pretty. Did I mention she's fairly nice looking?Sq 17 said:Finn said:
Ron received bad advice to get into this race to begin with and should have sat this election out. It was not his time.
The only thing that makes sense is DeSantis thought Trump's legal issues would force Trump to withdraw and DeSantis would be ready to take the nomination.
What's truly baffling is Haley's rise to even or ahead of DeSantis
She's not that good of a politician,
has no built in constituency ,
has no policy points that she is winning on
is not really a conservative and
she is probably going to get to the convention with the second most delegates
It won't matter if it's appealed to many voters. The conviction will seal it for them.Sq 17 said:Ags77 said:
Does either DeSantis or Haley have to hang around to see if Trump gets convicted (s) ? Or will that not matter, anyway ?
Conviction by November is unlikely and of course it can be appealed. If SCOTUS decides states can remove Trump from the ballot for insurrection that might be an opening for Haley or DeSantis
PA24 said:
Abbott could have Trump shore up the Southwest states of N.M. and Az.
That is who I think he picks as his VP.
DeSantis could have been so much for the incumbent but he betrayed Trump. Going to be a tough road for him in politics. That is all I am saying.
jja79 said:
DeSantis is a good governor, bad candidate. I like him but he puts people to sleep when he gets the microphone.
