Terminus Est said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/idf-confirm-incident-gaza-church-patriarch-says-2-christian-women-killed-convent-bombed

Looks like they've issued a small statement

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When reviewing incidents that may have taken place in the vicinity of churches in Gaza, it was found that an incident took place during yesterday afternoon (Saturday) in another area in Gaza, near the Latin Church in the Shejayia area," an IDF spokesperson told Fox News Digital in a statement.

The statement continued, "An initial review suggests that IDF troops, who were operating against Hamas terrorists in the area, operated against a threat that they identified in the area of the church. The IDF is conducting a thorough review of the incident."

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We will see what they find

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The Israeli's are saying absolutely nothing about the situation. If anyone has a link to anything they've said about it, I'd like to see it

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The Vatican News page says that the Israeli's justified it by claiming there was a rocket launcher in the Church

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aTmAg said:

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shack009 said:

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It's WAR so it's ok that Hamas killed civilians too, right?

I actually think it's bad when either side kills civilians.

I condemn Hamas for murdering civilians and I condemn Israel for the same.

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Do you think killing somebody in self defense is equal to killing somebody for the hell of it?

Do you guys think for more than 30 seconds about things before you post?

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Ag with kids said:

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aTmAg said:

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shack009 said:

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It's WAR so it's ok that Hamas killed civilians too, right?

I actually think it's bad when either side kills civilians.

I condemn Hamas for murdering civilians and I condemn Israel for the same.

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Do you think killing somebody in self defense is equal to killing somebody for the hell of it?

Do you guys think for more than 30 seconds about things before you post?

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The anti-semites live by the moral equivalence...

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aTmAg said:

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shack009 said:

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It's WAR so it's ok that Hamas killed civilians too, right?

I actually think it's bad when either side kills civilians.

I condemn Hamas for murdering civilians and I condemn Israel for the same.

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Do you think killing somebody in self defense is equal to killing somebody for the hell of it?

Do you guys think for more than 30 seconds about things before you post?

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/idf-confirm-incident-gaza-church-patriarch-says-2-christian-women-killed-convent-bombed

Looks like they've issued a small statement

Quote:

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When reviewing incidents that may have taken place in the vicinity of churches in Gaza, it was found that an incident took place during yesterday afternoon (Saturday) in another area in Gaza, near the Latin Church in the Shejayia area," an IDF spokesperson told Fox News Digital in a statement.

The statement continued, "An initial review suggests that IDF troops, who were operating against Hamas terrorists in the area, operated against a threat that they identified in the area of the church. The IDF is conducting a thorough review of the incident."

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We will see what they find

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Well, you've said:

Quote:

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The Israeli's are saying absolutely nothing about the situation. If anyone has a link to anything they've said about it, I'd like to see it

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Earlier, you stated that:

Quote:

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The Vatican News page says that the Israeli's justified it by claiming there was a rocket launcher in the Church

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And it IS in their story.


So, the VN is saying ISRAEL SAYS there's a rocket launcher. And yet Israel has NOT said that.

So, either the VN is WRONG or they're LYING. Your choice.

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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aTmAg said:

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shack009 said:

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It's WAR so it's ok that Hamas killed civilians too, right?

I actually think it's bad when either side kills civilians.

I condemn Hamas for murdering civilians and I condemn Israel for the same.

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Do you think killing somebody in self defense is equal to killing somebody for the hell of it?

Do you guys think for more than 30 seconds about things before you post?

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The anti-semites live by the moral equivalence...

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I think you've missed the multiple pages of "if the IDF kills old women it's okay because Hamas started the war"

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Ag with kids said:

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aTmAg said:

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shack009 said:

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It's WAR so it's ok that Hamas killed civilians too, right?

I actually think it's bad when either side kills civilians.

I condemn Hamas for murdering civilians and I condemn Israel for the same.

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Do you think killing somebody in self defense is equal to killing somebody for the hell of it?

Do you guys think for more than 30 seconds about things before you post?

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The anti-semites live by the moral equivalence...

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aTmAg said:

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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aTmAg said:

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shack009 said:

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It's WAR so it's ok that Hamas killed civilians too, right?

I actually think it's bad when either side kills civilians.

I condemn Hamas for murdering civilians and I condemn Israel for the same.

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Do you think killing somebody in self defense is equal to killing somebody for the hell of it?

Do you guys think for more than 30 seconds about things before you post?

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The anti-semites live by the moral equivalence...

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I think you've missed the multiple pages of "if the IDF kills old women it's okay because Hamas started the war"

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Do you equate Hiroshima with the raping of Nanking?

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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aTmAg said:

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shack009 said:

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It's WAR so it's ok that Hamas killed civilians too, right?

I actually think it's bad when either side kills civilians.

I condemn Hamas for murdering civilians and I condemn Israel for the same.

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Do you think killing somebody in self defense is equal to killing somebody for the hell of it?

Do you guys think for more than 30 seconds about things before you post?

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The anti-semites live by the moral equivalence...

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I think you've missed the multiple pages of "if the IDF kills old women it's okay because Hamas started the war"

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aTmAg said:

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You Hamas first crowd can't have it both ways. You can't basically call them genocidal maniacs who target innocent people for the hell of it and then assume the IDF is honest when reporting what happened.

If they have no problem murdering innocents, then they'd have no problem lying about it too. If killing innocents was their intent, then they would do it secretly as hell and deny being in the area altogether.

Either Hamas did it and is blaming Israel or it was an accident.

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/idf-confirm-incident-gaza-church-patriarch-says-2-christian-women-killed-convent-bombed

Looks like they've issued a small statement

Quote:

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When reviewing incidents that may have taken place in the vicinity of churches in Gaza, it was found that an incident took place during yesterday afternoon (Saturday) in another area in Gaza, near the Latin Church in the Shejayia area," an IDF spokesperson told Fox News Digital in a statement.

The statement continued, "An initial review suggests that IDF troops, who were operating against Hamas terrorists in the area, operated against a threat that they identified in the area of the church. The IDF is conducting a thorough review of the incident."

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We will see what they find

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Well, you've said:

Quote:

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The Israeli's are saying absolutely nothing about the situation. If anyone has a link to anything they've said about it, I'd like to see it

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Earlier, you stated that:

Quote:

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The Vatican News page says that the Israeli's justified it by claiming there was a rocket launcher in the Church

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And it IS in their story.


So, the VN is saying ISRAEL SAYS there's a rocket launcher. And yet Israel has NOT said that.

So, either the VN is WRONG or they're LYING. Your choice.

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Israel has not given any specifics, merely said they're investigating an incident near a Catholic Church where one of their groups "engaged a threat".

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C@LAg said:

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If only our liberals cared THIS much about unnecessary violent deaths with all the black-on-black violence all across this country... the US crime rate would drastically improve.

But yes. 2 accidental deaths in what is almost a war environment, is much much worse.

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/idf-confirm-incident-gaza-church-patriarch-says-2-christian-women-killed-convent-bombed

Looks like they've issued a small statement

Quote:

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When reviewing incidents that may have taken place in the vicinity of churches in Gaza, it was found that an incident took place during yesterday afternoon (Saturday) in another area in Gaza, near the Latin Church in the Shejayia area," an IDF spokesperson told Fox News Digital in a statement.

The statement continued, "An initial review suggests that IDF troops, who were operating against Hamas terrorists in the area, operated against a threat that they identified in the area of the church. The IDF is conducting a thorough review of the incident."

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We will see what they find

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Well, you've said:

Quote:

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The Israeli's are saying absolutely nothing about the situation. If anyone has a link to anything they've said about it, I'd like to see it

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Earlier, you stated that:

Quote:

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The Vatican News page says that the Israeli's justified it by claiming there was a rocket launcher in the Church

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And it IS in their story.


So, the VN is saying ISRAEL SAYS there's a rocket launcher. And yet Israel has NOT said that.

So, either the VN is WRONG or they're LYING. Your choice.

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Israel has not given any specifics, merely said they're investigating an incident near a Catholic Church where one of their groups "engaged a threat".

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The Vatican News GAVE SPECIFICS. They said "The ongoing attack was reportedly justified by Israelis who claimed the presence of a rocket launcher in the parish."

So, where is the reported justification of there being a rocket launcher by the Israelis?

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shack009 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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aTmAg said:

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shack009 said:

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It's WAR so it's ok that Hamas killed civilians too, right?

I actually think it's bad when either side kills civilians.

I condemn Hamas for murdering civilians and I condemn Israel for the same.

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Do you think killing somebody in self defense is equal to killing somebody for the hell of it?

Do you guys think for more than 30 seconds about things before you post?

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The anti-semites live by the moral equivalence...

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What does this even mean? Some are saying it is equally bad when civilians are killed. It is bad when Hamas kills civilians and it is bad when Israel kills civilians. Isn't that sort of "moral equivalence" just called "morality?"

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/idf-confirm-incident-gaza-church-patriarch-says-2-christian-women-killed-convent-bombed

Looks like they've issued a small statement

Quote:

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When reviewing incidents that may have taken place in the vicinity of churches in Gaza, it was found that an incident took place during yesterday afternoon (Saturday) in another area in Gaza, near the Latin Church in the Shejayia area," an IDF spokesperson told Fox News Digital in a statement.

The statement continued, "An initial review suggests that IDF troops, who were operating against Hamas terrorists in the area, operated against a threat that they identified in the area of the church. The IDF is conducting a thorough review of the incident."

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We will see what they find

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Well, you've said:

Quote:

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The Israeli's are saying absolutely nothing about the situation. If anyone has a link to anything they've said about it, I'd like to see it

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Earlier, you stated that:

Quote:

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The Vatican News page says that the Israeli's justified it by claiming there was a rocket launcher in the Church

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And it IS in their story.


So, the VN is saying ISRAEL SAYS there's a rocket launcher. And yet Israel has NOT said that.

So, either the VN is WRONG or they're LYING. Your choice.

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Israel has not given any specifics, merely said they're investigating an incident near a Catholic Church where one of their groups "engaged a threat".

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The Vatican News GAVE SPECIFICS. They said "The ongoing attack was reportedly justified by Israelis who claimed the presence of a rocket launcher in the parish."

So, where is the reported justification of there being a rocket launcher by the Israelis?

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From reading the VN article, it seems someone told that to Cardinal Pizzaballa, but an official statement has not yet been made.

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/idf-confirm-incident-gaza-church-patriarch-says-2-christian-women-killed-convent-bombed

Looks like they've issued a small statement

Quote:

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When reviewing incidents that may have taken place in the vicinity of churches in Gaza, it was found that an incident took place during yesterday afternoon (Saturday) in another area in Gaza, near the Latin Church in the Shejayia area," an IDF spokesperson told Fox News Digital in a statement.

The statement continued, "An initial review suggests that IDF troops, who were operating against Hamas terrorists in the area, operated against a threat that they identified in the area of the church. The IDF is conducting a thorough review of the incident."

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We will see what they find

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Well, you've said:

Quote:

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The Israeli's are saying absolutely nothing about the situation. If anyone has a link to anything they've said about it, I'd like to see it

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Earlier, you stated that:

Quote:

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The Vatican News page says that the Israeli's justified it by claiming there was a rocket launcher in the Church

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And it IS in their story.


So, the VN is saying ISRAEL SAYS there's a rocket launcher. And yet Israel has NOT said that.

So, either the VN is WRONG or they're LYING. Your choice.

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Israel has not given any specifics, merely said they're investigating an incident near a Catholic Church where one of their groups "engaged a threat".

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The Vatican News GAVE SPECIFICS. They said "The ongoing attack was reportedly justified by Israelis who claimed the presence of a rocket launcher in the parish."

So, where is the reported justification of there being a rocket launcher by the Israelis?

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From reading the VN article, it seems someone told that to Cardinal Pizzaballa, but an official statement has not yet been made.

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So, they don't know.

Maybe they shouldn't make accusations without confirmed information then.

You could also use that advice.

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/idf-confirm-incident-gaza-church-patriarch-says-2-christian-women-killed-convent-bombed

Looks like they've issued a small statement

Quote:

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When reviewing incidents that may have taken place in the vicinity of churches in Gaza, it was found that an incident took place during yesterday afternoon (Saturday) in another area in Gaza, near the Latin Church in the Shejayia area," an IDF spokesperson told Fox News Digital in a statement.

The statement continued, "An initial review suggests that IDF troops, who were operating against Hamas terrorists in the area, operated against a threat that they identified in the area of the church. The IDF is conducting a thorough review of the incident."

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We will see what they find

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Well, you've said:

Quote:

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The Israeli's are saying absolutely nothing about the situation. If anyone has a link to anything they've said about it, I'd like to see it

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Earlier, you stated that:

Quote:

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The Vatican News page says that the Israeli's justified it by claiming there was a rocket launcher in the Church

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And it IS in their story.


So, the VN is saying ISRAEL SAYS there's a rocket launcher. And yet Israel has NOT said that.

So, either the VN is WRONG or they're LYING. Your choice.

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Israel has not given any specifics, merely said they're investigating an incident near a Catholic Church where one of their groups "engaged a threat".

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The Vatican News GAVE SPECIFICS. They said "The ongoing attack was reportedly justified by Israelis who claimed the presence of a rocket launcher in the parish."

So, where is the reported justification of there being a rocket launcher by the Israelis?

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From reading the VN article, it seems someone told that to Cardinal Pizzaballa, but an official statement has not yet been made.

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So, they don't know.

Maybe they shouldn't make accusations without confirmed information then.

You could also use that advice.

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Who is saying they don't have confirmed information? I would imagine Cdl Pizzaballa has much more intel on this situation than we do

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/idf-confirm-incident-gaza-church-patriarch-says-2-christian-women-killed-convent-bombed

Looks like they've issued a small statement

Quote:

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When reviewing incidents that may have taken place in the vicinity of churches in Gaza, it was found that an incident took place during yesterday afternoon (Saturday) in another area in Gaza, near the Latin Church in the Shejayia area," an IDF spokesperson told Fox News Digital in a statement.

The statement continued, "An initial review suggests that IDF troops, who were operating against Hamas terrorists in the area, operated against a threat that they identified in the area of the church. The IDF is conducting a thorough review of the incident."

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We will see what they find

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Well, you've said:

Quote:

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The Israeli's are saying absolutely nothing about the situation. If anyone has a link to anything they've said about it, I'd like to see it

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Earlier, you stated that:

Quote:

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The Vatican News page says that the Israeli's justified it by claiming there was a rocket launcher in the Church

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And it IS in their story.


So, the VN is saying ISRAEL SAYS there's a rocket launcher. And yet Israel has NOT said that.

So, either the VN is WRONG or they're LYING. Your choice.

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Israel has not given any specifics, merely said they're investigating an incident near a Catholic Church where one of their groups "engaged a threat".

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The Vatican News GAVE SPECIFICS. They said "The ongoing attack was reportedly justified by Israelis who claimed the presence of a rocket launcher in the parish."

So, where is the reported justification of there being a rocket launcher by the Israelis?

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From reading the VN article, it seems someone told that to Cardinal Pizzaballa, but an official statement has not yet been made.

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So, they don't know.

Maybe they shouldn't make accusations without confirmed information then.

You could also use that advice.

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Who is saying they don't have confirmed information? I would imagine Cdl Pizzaballa has much more intel on this situation than we do

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I am saying that.

He could be wrong. Or he could be lying.

I would imagine the IDF has much more intel on this situation than we do.

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Terminus Est said:

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/idf-confirm-incident-gaza-church-patriarch-says-2-christian-women-killed-convent-bombed

Looks like they've issued a small statement

Quote:

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When reviewing incidents that may have taken place in the vicinity of churches in Gaza, it was found that an incident took place during yesterday afternoon (Saturday) in another area in Gaza, near the Latin Church in the Shejayia area," an IDF spokesperson told Fox News Digital in a statement.

The statement continued, "An initial review suggests that IDF troops, who were operating against Hamas terrorists in the area, operated against a threat that they identified in the area of the church. The IDF is conducting a thorough review of the incident."

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We will see what they find

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Well, you've said:

Quote:

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The Israeli's are saying absolutely nothing about the situation. If anyone has a link to anything they've said about it, I'd like to see it

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Earlier, you stated that:

Quote:

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The Vatican News page says that the Israeli's justified it by claiming there was a rocket launcher in the Church

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And it IS in their story.


So, the VN is saying ISRAEL SAYS there's a rocket launcher. And yet Israel has NOT said that.

So, either the VN is WRONG or they're LYING. Your choice.

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Israel has not given any specifics, merely said they're investigating an incident near a Catholic Church where one of their groups "engaged a threat".

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The Vatican News GAVE SPECIFICS. They said "The ongoing attack was reportedly justified by Israelis who claimed the presence of a rocket launcher in the parish."

So, where is the reported justification of there being a rocket launcher by the Israelis?

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From reading the VN article, it seems someone told that to Cardinal Pizzaballa, but an official statement has not yet been made.

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So, they don't know.

Maybe they shouldn't make accusations without confirmed information then.

You could also use that advice.

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Who is saying they don't have confirmed information? I would imagine Cdl Pizzaballa has much more intel on this situation than we do

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I am saying that.

He could be wrong. Or he could be lying.

I would imagine the IDF has much more intel on this situation than we do.

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Yeah and if you read the extremely vague statement they're saying "something happened but it was because we were fighting terrorists in that area and were investigating"

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aTmAg said:

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Those 2 cities could have been 100% civilian and it would have been the right thing to do, as it caused them to surrender. An invasion would have killed VASTLY more people than the bombs did. When you START A WAR you risk the lives of your own citizens. That's why you are in the wrong, not the other side who is trying to stop your violence.

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aTmAg said:

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Those 2 cities could have been 100% civilian and it would have been the right thing to do, as it caused them to surrender. An invasion would have killed VASTLY more people than the bombs did. When you START A WAR, you risk the lives of your own citizens. That's why you are in the wrong, not the other side who is trying to stop your violence.

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Terminus Est said:

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aTmAg said:

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Those 2 cities could have been 100% civilian and it would have been the right thing to do, as it caused them to surrender. An invasion would have killed VASTLY more people than the bombs did. When you START A WAR you risk the lives of your own citizens. That's why you are in the wrong, not the other side who is trying to stop your violence.

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The end does not justify the means. You can't murder an innocent person to save 10. Thats Catholic morality 101

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aTmAg said:

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jkag89 said:

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aTmAg said:

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jkag89 said:

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He's their buddy. He knows he will always be safe. Otherwise, he would have been killed or expelled by Hamas long ago.

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Do you realize that Pizzaballa is the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem? What power would Hamas have in Jerusalem?

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Read my post prior to yours.

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I did. Anything to back up your claims? Where is the proof that he is buddy buddy with Hamas?

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The cardinal also condemned the "barbarism of Hamas as unacceptable and incomprehensible."

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Hardly a something someone who is in cahoots with Hamas would say.

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Just like AOC condemned the Hamas attack. But there is always a "but....." following.

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RebelE Infantry said:

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aTmAg said:

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Those 2 cities could have been 100% civilian and it would have been the right thing to do, as it caused them to surrender. An invasion would have killed VASTLY more people than the bombs did. When you START A WAR, you risk the lives of your own citizens. That's why you are in the wrong, not the other side who is trying to stop your violence.

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This is stark raving lunacy. Even ultra American Ven. Fulton Sheen explicitly and vociferously condemned the atomic bombings.

Ius ad bellum vs Ius in bello. Learn the difference.

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aTmAg said:

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Terminus Est said:

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aTmAg said:

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Those 2 cities could have been 100% civilian and it would have been the right thing to do, as it caused them to surrender. An invasion would have killed VASTLY more people than the bombs did. When you START A WAR you risk the lives of your own citizens. That's why you are in the wrong, not the other side who is trying to stop your violence.

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The end does not justify the means. You can't murder an innocent person to save 10. Thats Catholic morality 101

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Another case of Catholic doctrine being wrong. Just like Francis on Marxism. It is immoral to take action that you KNOW will cause more people to die just so you can feel better about yourself.

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aTmAg said:

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Terminus Est said:

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aTmAg said:

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Those 2 cities could have been 100% civilian and it would have been the right thing to do, as it caused them to surrender. An invasion would have killed VASTLY more people than the bombs did. When you START A WAR you risk the lives of your own citizens. That's why you are in the wrong, not the other side who is trying to stop your violence.

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The end does not justify the means. You can't murder an innocent person to save 10. Thats Catholic morality 101

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Another case of Catholic doctrine being wrong. Just like Francis on Marxism. It is immoral to take action that you KNOW will cause more people to die just so you can feel better about yourself.

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jkag89 said:

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aTmAg said:

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jkag89 said:

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aTmAg said:

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jkag89 said:

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He's their buddy. He knows he will always be safe. Otherwise, he would have been killed or expelled by Hamas long ago.

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Do you realize that Pizzaballa is the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem? What power would Hamas have in Jerusalem?

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Read my post prior to yours.

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I did. Anything to back up your claims? Where is the proof that he is buddy buddy with Hamas?

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The cardinal also condemned the "barbarism of Hamas as unacceptable and incomprehensible."

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Hardly a something someone who is in cahoots with Hamas would say.

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Just like AOC condemned the Hamas attack. But there is always a "but....." following.

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So unless someone is 100% behind Israel they are automatically antisemitic?

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aTmAg said:

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jkag89 said:

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aTmAg said:

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jkag89 said:

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aTmAg said:

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jkag89 said:

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Quote:

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He's their buddy. He knows he will always be safe. Otherwise, he would have been killed or expelled by Hamas long ago.

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Do you realize that Pizzaballa is the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem? What power would Hamas have in Jerusalem?

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Read my post prior to yours.

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I did. Anything to back up your claims? Where is the proof that he is buddy buddy with Hamas?

Quote:

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The cardinal also condemned the "barbarism of Hamas as unacceptable and incomprehensible."

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Hardly a something someone who is in cahoots with Hamas would say.

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Just like AOC condemned the Hamas attack. But there is always a "but....." following.

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So unless someone is 100% behind Israel they are automatically antisemitic?

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You have the cause effect backward. People are antisemitic therefore they don't support Israel.

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Terminus Est said:

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aTmAg said:

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Terminus Est said:

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aTmAg said:

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Those 2 cities could have been 100% civilian and it would have been the right thing to do, as it caused them to surrender. An invasion would have killed VASTLY more people than the bombs did. When you START A WAR you risk the lives of your own citizens. That's why you are in the wrong, not the other side who is trying to stop your violence.

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The end does not justify the means. You can't murder an innocent person to save 10. Thats Catholic morality 101

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Another case of Catholic doctrine being wrong. Just like Francis on Marxism. It is immoral to take action that you KNOW will cause more people to die just so you can feel better about yourself.

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Has nothing to do with feeling better about yourself and more to do with not committing murder.

Also, you're not disagreeing with Pope Francis here but with the entire Church.

Edit to add: just so I'm clear, you are telling me it is in fact moral to kill one person so 10 will live?

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aTmAg said:

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Terminus Est said:

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aTmAg said:

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Terminus Est said:

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aTmAg said:

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Those 2 cities could have been 100% civilian and it would have been the right thing to do, as it caused them to surrender. An invasion would have killed VASTLY more people than the bombs did. When you START A WAR you risk the lives of your own citizens. That's why you are in the wrong, not the other side who is trying to stop your violence.

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The end does not justify the means. You can't murder an innocent person to save 10. Thats Catholic morality 101

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Another case of Catholic doctrine being wrong. Just like Francis on Marxism. It is immoral to take action that you KNOW will cause more people to die just so you can feel better about yourself.

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Has nothing to do with feeling better about yourself and more to do with not committing murder.

Also, you're not disagreeing with Pope Francis here but with the entire Church.

Edit to add: just so I'm clear, you are telling me it is in fact moral to kill one person so 10 will live?

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If that 1 person is trying to kill those 10, then hell yeah.

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Those 2 cities could have been 100% civilian and it would have been the right thing to do, as it caused them to surrender. An invasion would have killed VASTLY more people than the bombs did. When you START A WAR you risk the lives of your own citizens. That's why you are in the wrong, not the other side who is trying to stop your violence.

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The end does not justify the means. You can't murder an innocent person to save 10. Thats Catholic morality 101

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Another case of Catholic doctrine being wrong. Just like Francis on Marxism. It is immoral to take action that you KNOW will cause more people to die just so you can feel better about yourself.

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My goodness man. Your sense of morality is extremely warped.

And Pope Francis talking about something is not "Catholic doctrine." Maybe you should learn something really basic about Catholicism since you claim to be a Catholic.

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