Israel/Hamas going at it

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LMCane
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10:44p, 10/26/23
This is now a meme trend going through the IDF:

Hamas started this war, but they aren't going to be the ones to finish it.



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10:52p, 10/26/23
Tens of thousands of Muslims and Hamas supporters on American college campuses chanting to kill the Zionists

when Hamas is stopping their OWN civilians from moving to safety in Gaza

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In reply to Bunk Moreland • 11:00p, 10/26/23
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Bunk Moreland said:
The greatest superpower in the world has a wide open border stretching thousands of miles allowing immigrants, drugs, weapons, terrorists and more to flood in day after day...and some of you are wondering how this attack "doesn't make sense?"

It's called incompetence. Letting your guard down. It's everything that people in a nation that presents 'security' ignorantly hope is actually true when it usually isn't.


The part that struck me were concert goers and the number of folks who said they were waiting for soldiers to come save them.
These are folks in freaking Israel. Folks only a few miles away from Hamas.
They got complacent and over confident
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5:35a, 10/27/23
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Some good points on the relative imbalance and treatment of Hamas (and other arab states) vs. Israel militarily/as a justification for aid/action etc.



More, please.

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In reply to LMCane • 8:18a, 10/27/23
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[We've been very clear to avoid derailing this thread from the update nature of the ongoing Israel/Hamas conflict. Those who persist in doing so will receive time off, which will increase for repetitive derails -- Staff]
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8:19a, 10/27/23
and when leftists wail and whine about the "innocent" Hamas supporters getting caught up in an Israeli attack- let's remember this

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8:21a, 10/27/23
And right now-

IDF Army Radio breaks into music programming with missile warnings from incoming Hamas rockets heading towards neighborhoods all over the country

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8:25a, 10/27/23
and when you think it can't get worse than Palestinians murdering babies and decapitating and burning people alive in their cars and homes:



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9:15a, 10/27/23
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10:11a, 10/27/23
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In reply to 10andBOUNCE • 11:16a, 10/27/23
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10andBOUNCE said:

Give 48 hours notice and reduce that complex to small bits of rubble and large craters.

It's a cliche, but play stupid games and win stupid prizes.

Edit to add - 1500 bed hospital per the internet. About the same number of civilians murdered by Hamas. Even trade with the difference being that Israel would be attacking a military target.
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In reply to nortex97 • 11:21a, 10/27/23
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What a coward
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12:36p, 10/27/23
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-says-apparent-drone-strike-on-egypt-town-near-israel-launched-from-red-sea-area/

IDF jet shoots down drone over the Red Sea. Another drone hit an Egyptian town injuring 6.

Suspected Houthi drones.
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12:43p, 10/27/23
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12:48p, 10/27/23
looks like it might be on like donkey kong
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12:59p, 10/27/23
Anyone have a good live feed showing action?
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In reply to PrestigeWorldwideAg12 • 1:00p, 10/27/23
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PrestigeWorldwideAg12 said:
Anyone have a good live feed showing action?
preferably in 4k
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1:03p, 10/27/23
Here we go.
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1:07p, 10/27/23
What is the endgame here? Assuming successful with degrading Hamas over a period of days/weeks/months. Then what? Is it back to Gaza business-as-normal?
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1:09p, 10/27/23
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Not the big one yet
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1:10p, 10/27/23
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Willy's spot just came under rocket fire. Everyone's ok, but damn.

Livestream link:
https://www.youtube.com/live/v4k6c5QW7iM?si=1hI9LV0rZe3jcnQf
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In reply to New Boot Goofin • 1:57p, 10/27/23
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In reply to shiftyandquick • 2:03p, 10/27/23
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shiftyandquick said:
What is the endgame here? Assuming successful with degrading Hamas over a period of days/weeks/months. Then what? Is it back to Gaza business-as-normal?


Ummm…to get rid of Hamas.

They've said it repeatedly since the first attack.
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In reply to Some Junkie Cosmonaut • 2:07p, 10/27/23
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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:
shiftyandquick said:
What is the endgame here? Assuming successful with degrading Hamas over a period of days/weeks/months. Then what? Is it back to Gaza business-as-normal?


Ummm…to get rid of Hamas.

They've said it repeatedly since the first attack.
Which is essentially impossible since you'll create just as many future Hamas members in the process of killing the existing ones. Remember this is essentially a religious terrorist cult. There will always be more so long as there are people with those same religious beliefs. How do you know which currently "innocent" Palestinians will be future Hamas members? You can't.

So at most this will degrade their ability to attack and reduce their current numbers to something less threatening to Israel.

I think in the process they'll try to establish some sort of new ruling government in Gaza that is anti-Hamas (at least as much as possible).
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2:12p, 10/27/23


Ground invasion starting?

Internet cut. Other reports of tanks crossing over

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In reply to shiftyandquick • 2:15p, 10/27/23
shiftyandquick said:
What is the endgame here? Assuming successful with degrading Hamas over a period of days/weeks/months. Then what? Is it back to Gaza business-as-normal?


You this obtuse or been under a rock the past few weeks?

You dont go full invasion in order to lead to business as normal.
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 2:15p, 10/27/23
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Agthatbuilds said:


Ground invasion starting?

Internet cut. Other reports of tanks crossing over



Most everyone on X and YouTube are saying "yes". Even the Jordanian Foreign Minister.

They said the decision was made last night after Israel believed hostage negotiations in Qatar "hit a stalemate".

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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 2:20p, 10/27/23
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Agthatbuilds said:


Watch Willy OAM's feed. I believe he's positioned somewhere near Serdot(?) along the wall. Constant artillery. I've even seen about five rounds of tank fire.

https://www.youtube.com/live/v4k6c5QW7iM?si=eSDcvCVyHDttxI0t

Edit: Grammar
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In reply to New Boot Goofin • 2:23p, 10/27/23
04TXAg007 said:
Willy's spot just came under rocket fire. Everyone's ok, but damn.

Livestream link:
https://www.youtube.com/live/v4k6c5QW7iM?si=1hI9LV0rZe3jcnQf
I couldn't find it. Is there a time stamp or anything? I just saw stuff going off in the distance that he provided casual commentary on.
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In reply to Dimebag Darrell • 2:26p, 10/27/23
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Dimebag Darrell said:
04TXAg007 said:
Willy's spot just came under rocket fire. Everyone's ok, but damn.

Livestream link:
https://www.youtube.com/live/v4k6c5QW7iM?si=1hI9LV0rZe3jcnQf
I couldn't find it. Is there a time stamp or anything? I just saw stuff going off in the distance that he provided casual commentary on.


Don't hold me to it, but I THINK it happened around 1:00 CST (my time). You can see about 5-6 rockets launched to the left of his feed headed their direction. All the reporters start panicking and about 10 seconds later… boom. Willy said one landed a few hundred meters from them.

Edit: 1:00 PM CST my time - if that helps any.
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2:27p, 10/27/23
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2:37p, 10/27/23
Action going on now for sure
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In reply to javajaws • 2:41p, 10/27/23
javajaws said:
Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:
shiftyandquick said:
What is the endgame here? Assuming successful with degrading Hamas over a period of days/weeks/months. Then what? Is it back to Gaza business-as-normal?


Ummm…to get rid of Hamas.

They've said it repeatedly since the first attack.
Which is essentially impossible since you'll create just as many future Hamas members in the process of killing the existing ones. Remember this is essentially a religious terrorist cult. There will always be more so long as there are people with those same religious beliefs. How do you know which currently "innocent" Palestinians will be future Hamas members? You can't.

So at most this will degrade their ability to attack and reduce their current numbers to something less threatening to Israel.

I think in the process they'll try to establish some sort of new ruling government in Gaza that is anti-Hamas (at least as much as possible).
It is not impossible if they have the will do it. The problem would be solved then they could just claim the land forever and start building settlements.
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2:55p, 10/27/23
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Watching the feed. Meanwhile on FoxNews, they are saying that the ground operation is probably not going to be some "Normandy" style all out invasion. But, more like a gradual ingress over weeks and months.
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