Israel/Hamas going at it

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In reply to LMCane • 12:18p, 11/24/24
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LMCane said:
AtticusMatlock said:
three guards were wounded and the assailant eliminated.

in other news- a Chabad Rabbi in the UAE was kidnapped 3 days ago and found murdered this morning

Uzbek hired gun terrorists - guess who hired them?


The blood of Israeli's doesn't come cheap. There will be a
Lot of Iranians killed over this. If there are any Hamas left in the UAE…………
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9:21a, 11/25/24
cool breakdown of logistics and evacuation metrics from Gaza and South Lebanon

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In reply to LMCane • 10:32a, 11/25/24
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impressive. israel is probably one of the most well-honed militaries operating in the world right now.
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1:28p, 11/25/24
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I have nothing to contribute, but damn the IDF is badace. Their enemies are so lucky the IDF has to operate with their hands tied.
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8:46a, 11/26/24
pretty great videos from a few Hizbullah suburbs experiencing pinpoint strikes from F-15 and F-35 Adir

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11:35a, 11/26/24
IDF troops have reached the Litani River in south Lebanon

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1:06p, 11/26/24
Biden to speak at 1430 EST on CEASEFIRE between Israel and Hizbullah

seems to be a 60 day ceasefire with Israel moving back south to their border and Hizbullah agreeing not to move south of the Litani River

could be a good thing if they focus now on Iran and finishing off Hamas.
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In reply to LMCane • 1:18p, 11/26/24
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LMCane said:
Biden to speak at 1430 EST on CEASEFIRE between Israel and Hizbullah

seems to be a 60 day ceasefire with Israel moving back south to their border and Hizbullah agreeing not to move south of the Litani River

could be a good thing if they focus now on Iran and finishing off Hamas.
What would be different about this time? Haven't they agreed to that several times now to get the Israelis to stop bombing them? Why should the Israelis believe that they will actually do it this time?
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In reply to LMCane • 1:20p, 11/26/24
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Does anyone trust Hez to comply?

Israel should closely monitor everything south of the river and blow them to hell if they cross.
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In reply to LMCane • 1:53p, 11/26/24
LMCane said:
Biden to speak at 1430 EST on CEASEFIRE between Israel and Hizbullah

seems to be a 60 day ceasefire with Israel moving back south to their border and Hizbullah agreeing not to move south of the Litani River

could be a good thing if they focus now on Iran and finishing off Hamas.



Big win for Trump. Hezzies obviously took the best deal they could get knowing Trump was going to end the war in a couple of months.
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In reply to LMCane • 2:10p, 11/26/24
LMCane said:
Biden to speak at 1430 EST on CEASEFIRE between Israel and Hizbullah

seems to be a 60 day ceasefire with Israel moving back south to their border and Hizbullah agreeing not to move south of the Litani River

could be a good thing if they focus now on Iran and finishing off Hamas.
Forever war continues....best to continue
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2:16p, 11/26/24
We'll see what happens.

Iran is likely using this as an opportunity to resupply and reorganize Hezbollah. Already seeing some tweets about some other Iraqi moron group wanting to move into southern Lebanon now at the behest of Iran. They will do the whole "we aren't Hezbollah so the agreement doesn't apply to us" thing.

Lebanese have supposedly agreed to Israel being able to re-enter Southern Lebanon to conduct operations if necessary.
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2:19p, 11/26/24
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2:39p, 11/26/24
I think it's a good deal because it accomplishes:

1) IDF can rest, refit, rearm, take care of their equipment, go back to their civilian jobs
2) Hamas is alone
3) it shows Hizbullah desperate to stop getting demolished
4) puts UN 1701 back on the table to be enforced this time
5) israeli civilians can go back home for first time in a year
6) Biden will veto UN resolutions
7) Biden will release weapons shipments held up by the State Department
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In reply to UTExan • 2:45p, 11/26/24
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A coma? That really puts a caesura in Iranian politics.
Had to look up the definition of "caesura", thank you I am always ready to learn something. Then again at my age I'll probably forget it by tomorrow. Still a blue star to you.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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In reply to unmade bed • 2:47p, 11/26/24
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unmade bed said:
LMCane said:
Biden to speak at 1430 EST on CEASEFIRE between Israel and Hizbullah

seems to be a 60 day ceasefire with Israel moving back south to their border and Hizbullah agreeing not to move south of the Litani River

could be a good thing if they focus now on Iran and finishing off Hamas.



Big win for Trump. Hezzies obviously took the best deal they could get knowing Trump was going to end the war in a couple of months.
I think it is a big win for Biden and MIC. Keeping Israel from finishing the job and putting Hez in a state where Lebanon can finish them off once and for all allows them to reconstitute (with Iranian help) over the next few years, ensuring that Israel will have to keep buying American made weapons, missile defense systems and components. Also keeps Trump from claiming credit for a wider peace deal in the ME that could see groups like Hez and Hamas shunned by all of the Arab countries.
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In reply to AtticusMatlock • 2:52p, 11/26/24
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AtticusMatlock said:


Apparently work to be done before then:
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2:57p, 11/26/24
Bibi lays out the case for a ceasefire

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5:41p, 11/27/24
Looks like Hamas already moving equipment south:
“If you’re going to have crime it should at least be organized crime”
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In reply to LMCane • 6:00p, 11/27/24
LMCane said:
I think it's a good deal because it accomplishes:

1) IDF can rest, refit, rearm, take care of their equipment, go back to their civilian jobs
2) Hamas is alone
3) it shows Hizbullah desperate to stop getting demolished
4) puts UN 1701 back on the table to be enforced this time
5) israeli civilians can go back home for first time in a year
6) Biden will veto UN resolutions
7) Biden will release weapons shipments held up by the State Department
Forever war continues. We have seen these cease fires so many times, they only proglong the forever war
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In reply to UTExan • 6:33p, 11/27/24
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Given the intelligence, accuracy, and decisiveness of Israeli air strikes against hezbollah assets, I would NOT want to be stuck in traffic next to one of those...
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In reply to samurai_science • 7:13p, 11/27/24
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samurai_science said:
LMCane said:
I think it's a good deal because it accomplishes:

1) IDF can rest, refit, rearm, take care of their equipment, go back to their civilian jobs
2) Hamas is alone
3) it shows Hizbullah desperate to stop getting demolished
4) puts UN 1701 back on the table to be enforced this time
5) israeli civilians can go back home for first time in a year
6) Biden will veto UN resolutions
7) Biden will release weapons shipments held up by the State Department
Forever war continues. We have seen these cease fires so many times, they only proglong the forever war


They're fighting a biblical war. Normal rules don't apply.
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In reply to UTExan • 7:54p, 11/27/24
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Behold my shocked face. It is so (not) surprising that they would almost immediately violate the cease fire terms.
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