Trump indicted over classified documents

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Rapier108
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Daddy said:

Rapier108 said:

Daddy said:

This is an act of desperation

There is a heavy war behind the scenes and it shows the ots flipped

And again

Ask yourself

Why particularly if Ron Pools better
Vs Biden. Much

Why are they trying to take him out?

He knows where the bodies are buried
And they know it
1. They want Trump to be the nominee and hope these indictments will get people to vote for Trump in the primary out of a desire for revenge.

2. They will go after DeSantis, or anyone else, if he or she is the nominee.

3. They will take out Trump permanently, one way or the other, if the Democrats win the next election.


Not at all
Does this make anyone not want Trump?

His base gets more fired up

Only the educated elite who are never trumpets are spreading this


In fact you know who's even more Trump now?

Blacks
Hispanics
White working class

Because they understand that the system is rigged against him.
Go ahead and ride the Trump train right off the cliff.

We'll see if in November 2024 you'll stick around to own up to the fact that you ****ed over the entire country for nothing more than your near god likely worship of one man.
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LMCane said:

Rockdoc said:

boboguitar said:

Curious is they have evidence of him selling these documents. We already know he's a traitor, it's just to what extent now.

Have you looked at your own people bobo? Have you wondered why they haven't received the same treatment? Of course you haven't. You're a good little brainwashed soldier.
on the other hand, why is it that the Trump defenders always have to pull the WHATABOUTISM card?

how about we select a nominee who has never been: impeached, insulted hundreds of people, credibly accused and found guilty of sexual crimes, indicted for state and Federal crimes now twice.

is that a bar too high for a country of 330 million people now?!?!

"Whataboutism"? Really? Have you ever heard about consistency under the applied laws? Have you? Don't be stupid. And don't think for a second we don't know who you are.
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Hillary should do the Patriotic thing and agree to plead guilty to charges of mishandling classified documents with her private server and accept a 5 year prison sentence in exchange for Trump being found guilty for his handling of classified documents and getting the same 5 year sentence.
They could both be bunk mates and serve their sentences together as fellow crooks and liars
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Apparently to Twitter, no president has ever done anything wrong pre-Trump. They never investigated others for petty process inquiries *for a reason*, and now Pandora's Box is thrown wide open.
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Excaliber said:

Hillary should do the Patriotic thing and agree to plead guilty to charges of mishandling classified documents with her private server and accept a 5 year prison sentence in exchange for Trump being found guilty for his handling of classified documents and getting the same 5 year sentence.
They could both be bunk mates and serve their sentences together as fellow crooks and liars
Patriotic thing? Tough to type out GCF in the same sentence as that word.



She's working to profit from gloating about getting away with 'it.' And note, her 'emails' from a server in her bathtub, and destruction (often with a hammer) of dozens of mobile devices was to hide actually trading in American secrets for personal profit with foreign adversaries.
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What's sad is that Trump said if he was president, she'd be in prison. And then he did nothing.
What you say, Paper Champion? I'm gonna beat you like a dog, a dog, you hear me!
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Foreverconservative said:

Ags77 said:

There is always a video or a tweet. I just turned on the TV and saw a video of Trump saying he thinks that mishandling classified documents is a DISQUALIFIER for being President. It was a reference about Hillary, I think, though he didn't say her name.

Then he signed a law making the crime for being convicted of mishandling classified documents much stronger. Irony everywhere.


Mishandled in what way? Stored under lock and key at his office that's protected by Secret Service 24/7?

Trump didn't pull a Scooter Libby the Crossfire Hurricane docs were packed up and transferred by staffers.

Seriously the FBI confiscated

31 confidential documents, 54 "secret" documents and 18 "top secret."
48 empty folders with classified banners
42 folders marked "return to staff secretary/military aide"
More than 11,000 government documents or pictures without classification markings
Nearly 1,700 magazines, newspapers or press clippings
19 articles of clothing or gift items
33 books


And the DOJ can literally make up anything that was in or not in those documents to make their case against Trump and under the guise of "national security interests" not be compelled to disclose what they have. Yeah, this is such a fair and transparent process.

When its already been shown the FBI and intelligence apparatus backed by Biden and Obama and Hillary had a major hand in the Russia conspiracy to try to take him down, why would anyone believe they are being aboveboard here and are doing this "at arm's length" of Biden's office?

LOL. Dems screamed election interference over a ridiculous phone call Trump made to Zelensky. Dems: this is what real election interference looks like. Also using the FBI and allies in media/social media to bury a corrupt President and corrupt sons dealing also qualifies as interference.
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aggie93 said:

AGHouston11 said:

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The Green Dragon said:

I ****ing told you over a year ago and all I got was CM! You couldn't open your eyes and realize that it's possible to resent a prosecution but also say what's gonna happen.

The guy is going to prison. Unless there is some sort of exception for presidents that I don't know about, he's going to prison.

And I'd vote for trump in a second. I'm just stating what's going to happen. The Feds do not indict unless they are certain to convict. To the deluded trump fanbois: this is happening. It's real.

if the Trump cultists were smart, they would ensure DeSantis wins to then pardon their guy

but since they are not intelligent, they will back a flailing out of control 80 year old who will go down to a worse defeat than Bob Dole in 1996

If Trump was at all intelligent, he would drop out now and back DeSantis. that would ensure he could get a pardon and maybe the leftists then drop their trials against him since he is no longer relevant.


So you are only intelligent if you support Desantis
Thats a great strategy
I don't know that it is a strategy but it is the truth. What is happening to Trump is completely wrong and we need to fight back but it is also true that Trump is not going to win the election. Fair or not there is significant evidence he committed a crime. Fair or not all Trump's campaign is going to be about is his multiple indictments. Fair or not Trump is turning 77 in a few days. Trump's argument is also going to have to shift from "I'm innocent" to "Well, I what I did wasn't that illegal and Democrats have done worse."

None of that is going to result in him winning. Independents and Women already hate him and this will make them hate him more, especially after hearing about it for the next year along with the additional indictments to come. That sucks but its reality.

If he is the nominee and loses we are completely screwed. The Dems will stack the SC and it's all over. If DeSantis is the nominee he likely wins, pardons Trump, and reforms the Deep State or at least has a real chance to do so because he is the best qualified to do so.

Thus the intelligent option is DeSantis even if you are a Trump supporter.


The arrogance of your post is laughable. "If Desantis wins the primary he wins". Like I said every post you make makes me less likely to support Desantis. You are doing a great job of turning people away that's your goal.
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Trump is his own worst enemy. See the clips of the transcript below. He cannot shut his mouth when he needs to. Trump is a liability for Republicans in '24. He will never step down because now getting reelection is his ONLY WAY to avoid prosecution and potential jail. Because he clearly sees himself as above the law and cannot shut his yap when he needs to. I cannot fathom why any Republican would continue to support this buffoon.

The decision to indict was made by AMERICAN CITIZENS on a Grand Jury. (But a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich.)

DeSantis would trounce Biden in the general election, especially with all the baggage he has. DeSantis gets **** done, and doesn't just run his mouth and attack anyone who is not a sycophant.






INB4:

  • But Biden, Hillary, Pence, Hunter - blah, blah, blah - ok then prosecute them for any crimes they committed. This is whataboutism and does not speak to Trump's guilt or innocence.
  • "Trump can declassify anything" - he's ADMITTING he can't and that he did not.
  • Former presidents are above the law - they aren't. If Trump committed the acts he's accused of and American doesn't prosecute, then we are a banana republic. Not the other way around.
  • "Isn't it funny this came out the same day as the Biden $10 Million release" - who planned it to be the same day? The Grand Jury has been going on for MONTHs, which they have known about. I submit this was planned by Trumpists in an attempt to deflect from the indictment.





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I could only imagine the endless rioting and constant claims of Fascism being spewed over every media outlet 24/7 if a Republican administration indicted a former Democrat POTUS and leading candidate.
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Artorias said:

I could only imagine the endless rioting and constant claims of Fascism being spewed over every media outlet 24/7 if a Republican administration indicted a former Democrat POTUS and leading candidate.


A grand jury in a red state issued the indictment. His hand picked MAGA judge is assigned to the case. He's getting a fairer shake than anybody else. Anyone and everybody in similar circumstances would have been arrested a year ago.
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Grand juries are only as relevant as where they're based. Metro areas are overwhelmingly Democrat, which should tell you everything.
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Judge Cannon is the same judge that the 11th circuit slap down for trying to appoint a special master over the documents.

I'm Gipper
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Quote:

The "country is going to hell" has been said when slaves were freed, women were given the right to vote, women were allowed to use birth control, gays were given the right to marry, etc. ad nauseum.

Trust me, your life will be fine no matter what happens to Trump.

I'm sure maga still enjoy their friends and families today. They'll still have fun at whatever plans they've made for this weekend or summer vacation. They'll still get to celebrate the births of any loved ones, etc etc

That will all happen no matter what happens to Trump. Now if whatever happens to Trump ruins any of those things, then those people need to rethink their lives.

As for there being two sets of Justice. Every minority, including women, would like to welcome those t thinking that now to the party.
The problem with your line of thinking is that you're only looking at this through the lens of Trump. This is bigger than Trump. The hypocrisy and overreach by the government with this should make anyone uncomfortable.

To compare what's happening now to the reaction of freeing the slaves, legalizing birth control, gay marriage, women's right to vote is one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard. In each of those instances, it was the government easing control of its citizens. In today's America, the government is looking to grow control over its citizens...and using what should be an impartial law enforcement system to do it.

So furthering an impartial justice system should be brushed off as 'no big deal' because it happened to women and minorities in the past? That's a terrible way to look at it, and an easy way to give the hard-left leaders in our country the green light to keep doing it more.
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Trump's mouth is Deep State
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the_batman26 said:

Grand juries are only as relevant as where they're based. Metro areas are overwhelmingly Democrat, which should tell you everything.


I believe every county in this District, but one went for Desantis in the 2022 gubernatorial election.

I'm Gipper
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Says the Biden voter (you know, the guy that is currently destroying our country)
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Others weren't prosecuted because it's beyond unprecedented. (Observational side note, we've come a long way from Andrew Jackson literally killing a man and still being POTUS).

Making Trump "Public Enemy No. 1" for having these boxes is *beyond* a bad look. It looks petty. At least tax evasion for Al Capone was the only way for him being a mobster. Instead, Trump had mean tweets and still has support despite, what, 7 years of trying to nail him? Using baseless Buzzfeed reports from a bogus dossier?
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Romney on Trump

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The Green Dragon said:

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

lol…Do you have any familiarity with bobo at all? He is the definition of partisan hack…that's why 99% of his posts on this board are nonsensical drive-by posts.

Also, what question was he asking?


The "traitor" slight aside, he's asking a legit question of whether he sold this information. I want to know. I also want Biden prosecutes for his alleged bribery
Is there ANY information that he did? Or is that just a throwout question to imply guilt?

For that matter, did YOU sell any classified information? Until we know, we'll just have to assume you and Trump MAY have done that...
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GeorgiAg said:

Trump's mouth is Deep State
Not as much as Biden's bank account.
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Gigem314 said:

Quote:

The "country is going to hell" has been said when slaves were freed, women were given the right to vote, women were allowed to use birth control, gays were given the right to marry, etc. ad nauseum.

Trust me, your life will be fine no matter what happens to Trump.

I'm sure maga still enjoy their friends and families today. They'll still have fun at whatever plans they've made for this weekend or summer vacation. They'll still get to celebrate the births of any loved ones, etc etc

That will all happen no matter what happens to Trump. Now if whatever happens to Trump ruins any of those things, then those people need to rethink their lives.

As for there being two sets of Justice. Every minority, including women, would like to welcome those t thinking that now to the party.
The problem with your line of thinking is that you're only looking at this through the lens of Trump. This is bigger than Trump. The hypocrisy and overreach by the government with this should make anyone uncomfortable.

To compare what's happening now to the reaction of freeing the slaves, legalizing birth control, gay marriage, women's right to vote is one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard. In each of those instances, it was the government easing control of its citizens. In today's America, the government is looking to grow control over its citizens...and using what should be an impartial law enforcement system to do it.

So furthering an impartial justice system should be brushed off as 'no big deal' because it happened to women and minorities in the past? That's a terrible way to look at it, and an easy way to give the hard-left leaders in our country the green light to keep doing it more.


You make good points. I agree that the government is overreaching. They always do, always have, and always will.

I guess the thing to me is that how much of the anger right now by Trump's supporters would be there if Trump had a D by his name? And vice versa for those on the left.

Because the fact is, so long as people support or excuse things solely by who is on "their side", things like this will continue and the country will continue to become even worse because of it. Both sides need to do better and both need to be held accountable not just by the other side but their own.

As for Trump, even if Trump did what they are saying he did, I don't see him doing it for any reason other than him being his usual "in gonna do it because I want to and you can't stop me" mentality. Nothing more, nothing less, and nothing nefarious.

The problem is, that i do think Trump thumbed his nose more than he should've at people and agencies who he didn't think would be part of the "find out" part of the saying, and here he is.
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This thread is an embarrassment.

I back the blue. Donald Trump is a criminal. Like all criminals, he should be forced to pay the price for his crimes.
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But it's clear both sides won't do this. I'm not saying it's the end of the world either, but it's been an exhausting seven years seeing them try to nail a guy they liked until he ran for the presidency.
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No Spin Ag said:

Gigem314 said:

Quote:

The "country is going to hell" has been said when slaves were freed, women were given the right to vote, women were allowed to use birth control, gays were given the right to marry, etc. ad nauseum.

Trust me, your life will be fine no matter what happens to Trump.

I'm sure maga still enjoy their friends and families today. They'll still have fun at whatever plans they've made for this weekend or summer vacation. They'll still get to celebrate the births of any loved ones, etc etc

That will all happen no matter what happens to Trump. Now if whatever happens to Trump ruins any of those things, then those people need to rethink their lives.

As for there being two sets of Justice. Every minority, including women, would like to welcome those t thinking that now to the party.
The problem with your line of thinking is that you're only looking at this through the lens of Trump. This is bigger than Trump. The hypocrisy and overreach by the government with this should make anyone uncomfortable.

To compare what's happening now to the reaction of freeing the slaves, legalizing birth control, gay marriage, women's right to vote is one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard. In each of those instances, it was the government easing control of its citizens. In today's America, the government is looking to grow control over its citizens...and using what should be an impartial law enforcement system to do it.

So furthering an impartial justice system should be brushed off as 'no big deal' because it happened to women and minorities in the past? That's a terrible way to look at it, and an easy way to give the hard-left leaders in our country the green light to keep doing it more.


You make good points. I agree that the government is overreaching. They always do, always have, and always will.

I guess the thing to me is that how much of the anger right now by Trump's supporters would be there if Trump had a D by his name? And vice versa for those on the left.

Because the fact is, so long as people support or excuse things solely by who is on "their side", things like this will continue and the country will continue to become even worse because of it. Both sides need to do better and both need to be held accountable not just by the other side but their own.

As for Trump, even if Trump did what they are saying he did, I don't see him doing it for any reason other than him being his usual "in gonna do it because I want to and you can't stop me" mentality. Nothing more, nothing less, and nothing nefarious.

The problem is, that i do think Trump thumbed his nose more than he should've at people and agencies who he didn't think would be part of the "find out" part of the saying, and here he is.
It's getting worse because the law and justice is not being applied blindly. If Trump had a D next to his name none of this would be happening.
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An "awful, senseless" crime centered around…papers. With grey area on the declassification process. And centuries of not charging process issues like these. But this selective application of the law should concern you, if you "back the blue."
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Exactly

Leftist needs to stop pretending the law is EVER applied to their dudes wrong doings and understand how dangerous that is.

This is not a team sport

It is a political party colluding with the media, banks, big business, education and most other major institutions to make itself into an untouchable dictatorship

You ignoring this so you can feel like you're part of the "winning team" makes you just as responsible as they are
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the_batman26 said:

But it's clear both sides won't do this. I'm not saying it's the end of the world either, but it's been an exhausting seven years seeing them try to nail a guy they liked until he ran for the presidency.


I agree, which is why Desantis is so much the best option. With him we'll get all the policies that make Americans more money without having to hear from him every hour while he tweets the first thing that comes to his mind. Plus he'll get things done because although no politician on the right will say anything negative about Trump because they fear his base, that doesn't mean they won't continue to be a thorn in his side because the despise the type of human he is.

Defending Trump doesn't mean they like him, nor does it mean they don't wish he would go away. It's just them saying what they know his base wants to hear.

If they really wanted to give their full support to Trump no one would run against him in the primaries. No one.
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the_batman26 said:

An "awful, senseless" crime centered around…papers. With grey area on the declassification process. And centuries of not charging process issues like these. But this selective application of the law should concern you, if you "back the blue."


Exactly, let me tell you the about of papers, hard drives etc with POTUS and staff, hell I bet if Truman was an R and wanted to search an FDR storage unit in 1948 he would have found a bunch of "classified" D-Day documents, let's get real
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Daddy said:

Rapier108 said:

Daddy said:

This is an act of desperation

There is a heavy war behind the scenes and it shows the ots flipped

And again

Ask yourself

Why particularly if Ron Pools better
Vs Biden. Much

Why are they trying to take him out?

He knows where the bodies are buried
And they know it
1. They want Trump to be the nominee and hope these indictments will get people to vote for Trump in the primary out of a desire for revenge.

2. They will go after DeSantis, or anyone else, if he or she is the nominee.

3. They will take out Trump permanently, one way or the other, if the Democrats win the next election.


Not at all
Does this make anyone not want Trump?

His base gets more fired up

Only the educated elite who are never trumpets are spreading this


In fact you know who's even more Trump now?

Blacks
Hispanics
White working class

Because they understand that the system is rigged against him.




So since being defeated by Joe Biden, in your opinion has Trump by his actions expanded his base or shrunk it ?

We both know and agree his devoted followers aren't leaving him. I agree, that this stuff fires his base up.

I think we both agree that the never trumpers haven't changed their minds, either. In fact, I would say it's solidified their status.

Do you think the remaining people ( independents or moderates) have moved his way in the years following his defeat by the way he has handled it ?
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But it won't stop at Trump. The floodgates are open now. They're playing with house money and can do whatever they want. A fake dossier was used to fund Congressional investigations on Russian collusion, where peeing on hookers, I seem to recall, was a talking point.

The child of some DC staffer could MadLib accusations and they'd run with it against anyone with (R) beside their name.
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Fenrir said:

No Spin Ag said:

Gigem314 said:

Quote:

The "country is going to hell" has been said when slaves were freed, women were given the right to vote, women were allowed to use birth control, gays were given the right to marry, etc. ad nauseum.

Trust me, your life will be fine no matter what happens to Trump.

I'm sure maga still enjoy their friends and families today. They'll still have fun at whatever plans they've made for this weekend or summer vacation. They'll still get to celebrate the births of any loved ones, etc etc

That will all happen no matter what happens to Trump. Now if whatever happens to Trump ruins any of those things, then those people need to rethink their lives.

As for there being two sets of Justice. Every minority, including women, would like to welcome those t thinking that now to the party.
The problem with your line of thinking is that you're only looking at this through the lens of Trump. This is bigger than Trump. The hypocrisy and overreach by the government with this should make anyone uncomfortable.

To compare what's happening now to the reaction of freeing the slaves, legalizing birth control, gay marriage, women's right to vote is one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard. In each of those instances, it was the government easing control of its citizens. In today's America, the government is looking to grow control over its citizens...and using what should be an impartial law enforcement system to do it.

So furthering an impartial justice system should be brushed off as 'no big deal' because it happened to women and minorities in the past? That's a terrible way to look at it, and an easy way to give the hard-left leaders in our country the green light to keep doing it more.


You make good points. I agree that the government is overreaching. They always do, always have, and always will.

I guess the thing to me is that how much of the anger right now by Trump's supporters would be there if Trump had a D by his name? And vice versa for those on the left.

Because the fact is, so long as people support or excuse things solely by who is on "their side", things like this will continue and the country will continue to become even worse because of it. Both sides need to do better and both need to be held accountable not just by the other side but their own.

As for Trump, even if Trump did what they are saying he did, I don't see him doing it for any reason other than him being his usual "in gonna do it because I want to and you can't stop me" mentality. Nothing more, nothing less, and nothing nefarious.

The problem is, that i do think Trump thumbed his nose more than he should've at people and agencies who he didn't think would be part of the "find out" part of the saying, and here he is.
It's getting worse because the law and justice is not being applied blindly. If Trump had a D next to his name none of this would be happening.


And that's why both sides (voters) need to get their stuff together, find a way to work together, so that politicians can stop pushing things further and further with what they can get away with.

So long as each side only gets happy or pissed when something happens because of the party name attached to whatever, this is just going to continue. And honestly, we deserve better as a nation, but we're also getting what we deserve by our party line actions.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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Quote:

You make good points. I agree that the government is overreaching. They always do, always have, and always will.

I guess the thing to me is that how much of the anger right now by Trump's supporters would be there if Trump had a D by his name? And vice versa for those on the left.
If Trump had a D next to his name, he'd be in his second term and all of his annoyances would be overlooked or spun as a positive by the same people calling for him to be charged now. He would never have been investigated as a Democrat. He would have been lionized like he was as a celebrity by the media before he took sides in politics.

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Because the fact is, so long as people support or excuse things solely by who is on "their side", things like this will continue and the country will continue to become even worse because of it. Both sides need to do better and both need to be held accountable not just by the other side but their own.
That's the reason Trump was able to run and win in the first place, because there was no accountability from either party and the voters gave them the middle finger with a strong-tongued guy who wanted to do things differently. And for that...we're told that Trump is actually the more corrupt one and not the establishment from both parties. All this is doing is creating the next 'Trump' down the road.

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As for Trump, even if Trump did what they are saying he did, I don't see him doing it for any reason other than him being his usual "in gonna do it because I want to and you can't stop me" mentality. Nothing more, nothing less, and nothing nefarious.
So you hold Trump to that standard, but not the democrats or their agencies going after Trump because they want to? Again, this is bigger than Trump. He's one man. The overreaction to him as President has exposed numerous others for what they are more than it has for Trump's personality and ego.
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No Spin Ag said:

Fenrir said:

No Spin Ag said:

Gigem314 said:

Quote:

The "country is going to hell" has been said when slaves were freed, women were given the right to vote, women were allowed to use birth control, gays were given the right to marry, etc. ad nauseum.

Trust me, your life will be fine no matter what happens to Trump.

I'm sure maga still enjoy their friends and families today. They'll still have fun at whatever plans they've made for this weekend or summer vacation. They'll still get to celebrate the births of any loved ones, etc etc

That will all happen no matter what happens to Trump. Now if whatever happens to Trump ruins any of those things, then those people need to rethink their lives.

As for there being two sets of Justice. Every minority, including women, would like to welcome those t thinking that now to the party.
The problem with your line of thinking is that you're only looking at this through the lens of Trump. This is bigger than Trump. The hypocrisy and overreach by the government with this should make anyone uncomfortable.

To compare what's happening now to the reaction of freeing the slaves, legalizing birth control, gay marriage, women's right to vote is one of the most ignorant things I've ever heard. In each of those instances, it was the government easing control of its citizens. In today's America, the government is looking to grow control over its citizens...and using what should be an impartial law enforcement system to do it.

So furthering an impartial justice system should be brushed off as 'no big deal' because it happened to women and minorities in the past? That's a terrible way to look at it, and an easy way to give the hard-left leaders in our country the green light to keep doing it more.


You make good points. I agree that the government is overreaching. They always do, always have, and always will.

I guess the thing to me is that how much of the anger right now by Trump's supporters would be there if Trump had a D by his name? And vice versa for those on the left.

Because the fact is, so long as people support or excuse things solely by who is on "their side", things like this will continue and the country will continue to become even worse because of it. Both sides need to do better and both need to be held accountable not just by the other side but their own.

As for Trump, even if Trump did what they are saying he did, I don't see him doing it for any reason other than him being his usual "in gonna do it because I want to and you can't stop me" mentality. Nothing more, nothing less, and nothing nefarious.

The problem is, that i do think Trump thumbed his nose more than he should've at people and agencies who he didn't think would be part of the "find out" part of the saying, and here he is.
It's getting worse because the law and justice is not being applied blindly. If Trump had a D next to his name none of this would be happening.


And that's why both sides (voters) need to get their stuff together, find a way to work together, so that politicians can stop pushing things further and further with what they can get away with.

So long as each side only gets happy or pissed when something happens because of the party name attached to whatever, this is just going to continue. And honestly, we deserve better as a nation, but we're also getting what we deserve by our party line actions.
This is really stupid. Currently only one side is getting the benefit of knowing their party is untouchable.

When has anything even remotely similar to what happened to Kavanaugh and Thomas happened to any Dem? When has any Dem president been grilled much less targeted for keeping confidential records? We currently have a president that has accepted bribes and there is zero chance anything happens to him because at the end of the day the Dems control the Senate and the DOJ.

Arguing "both sides" is gaslighting bull*****
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Trumps lawyers have quit the case CNBC is reporting. Not sure what to make of that.
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