Trump indicted over classified documents

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AggieVictor10 said:

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

AggieVictor10 said:

If true, bury him under the jail


If what is true? This isn't hard to follow.



Seems like your mind, like many others on this board, is already made up.

Mine is not and honestly, I don't really give a **** what happens to 45. I am just saying that if he broke a law, he should be punished. Similarly, if Biden broken any laws, he should also be punished.
Again, I don't really give a **** what happens to these "ruling class "*******s (outside of posting on a message board about it).

Not sure what else you want.


Cool, man. Your casual ignorance doesn't make you enlightened, though.

Some of us understand history, declassification, have a shred of common sense, etc. and can see exactly what this nonsense is and will lead to. I don't like Trump at all but I can separate my feelings from the critical thinking part of my brain.

Congratulations on not caring though…while you continue to post on this thread. Also, you're not enlightened or "above it all" whatsoever. You just come off as incredibly naive.
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boboguitar said:

Curious is they have evidence of him selling these documents. We already know he's a traitor, it's just to what extent now.


Oh, look…bobo left his sandbox to embarrass himself again. bobo…explain to the class, with facts, why Trump is a "traitor" (who had declassification authority) and Hillary, Obama and Biden are not.

We'll all wait…
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This administration is absolutely reckless and has no morals in regard to the constitution and the law. It is equivalent to what Hitler did in the 30s and Stalin in the 40s. America may be lost and will be open to aggressive action by China, Iran, Russia, etc who will cause major problems to our way of life. The woke mob think they will be safe but do not believe that their positions will be maintained with a dictatorship taking over America. Just look at California in SF and LA, and guess what Austin has turned into a cesspool.

This is what we get when the American voter decides to look the other way from local elections all the way to the federal level. I have seen it in my own community all the way to Austin Texas.

Let me add this. The complaints about woke indoctrination, trans gender recruiting , etc in the education system across the nation is due to the elected school boards. Wow. They were elected by the voters.

This is my position about DEI at TAMU and I have given my position to Sharp and Banks. Please do not let this happen to the last bastion of sanity in a sea of corruption and turmoil.
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boboguitar said:

Curious is they have evidence of him selling these documents. We already know he's a traitor, it's just to what extent now.


If you ever wonder how the Germans could ever let the nazi regime rise to power, look at posters like this and realize there is nothing new under the sun. History repeats itself because ignorant people either don't understand it or refuse to learn from it.
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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

boboguitar said:

Curious is they have evidence of him selling these documents. We already know he's a traitor, it's just to what extent now.


If you ever wonder how the Germans could ever let the nazi regime rise to power, look at posters like this and realize there is nothing new under the sun. History repeats itself because ignorant people either don't understand it or refuse to learn from it.



I support old trump, but why would you attack a poster for asking a legitimate question?
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Just to put a little perspective on crime; 2020 election was stolen. The Democrat criminals are in charge now. We are fenced in now, all 4 sides.

This explains everything, including all the denial.
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Allow me to interject and answer for him

When one includes in the question "we already know he is a traitor" that shows one is not asking a "legitimate" question.

I'm Gipper
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No Spin Ag said:

Ags77 said:

There is always a video or a tweet. I just turned on the TV and saw a video of Trump saying he thinks that mishandling classified documents is a DISQUALIFIER for being President. It was a reference about Hillary, I think, though he didn't say her name.

Then he signed a law making the crime for being convicted of mishandling classified documents much stronger. Irony everywhere.


If that is the case, then yeah, that would be the irony of all ironies.


Trump is not being charged under that law. I'm not surprised that you and other liberals don't understand the definition of irony.

The reason they are not charging him under that law is because Trump had the right to declassify any document he wanted. The tyrants you voted for know that and know it wouldn't stick.

You think this is a laughing matter but it's not. There are clearly two sets of justice now. Even those on the right who don't support Trump understand it. This country was already in the gutter because of woke leftist policies and the cult of climate change. Now it's been made worse.
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AGHouston11 said:

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I ****ing told you over a year ago and all I got was CM! You couldn't open your eyes and realize that it's possible to resent a prosecution but also say what's gonna happen.

The guy is going to prison. Unless there is some sort of exception for presidents that I don't know about, he's going to prison.

And I'd vote for trump in a second. I'm just stating what's going to happen. The Feds do not indict unless they are certain to convict. To the deluded trump fanbois: this is happening. It's real.

if the Trump cultists were smart, they would ensure DeSantis wins to then pardon their guy

but since they are not intelligent, they will back a flailing out of control 80 year old who will go down to a worse defeat than Bob Dole in 1996

If Trump was at all intelligent, he would drop out now and back DeSantis. that would ensure he could get a pardon and maybe the leftists then drop their trials against him since he is no longer relevant.


So you are only intelligent if you support Desantis
Thats a great strategy
I don't know that it is a strategy but it is the truth. What is happening to Trump is completely wrong and we need to fight back but it is also true that Trump is not going to win the election. Fair or not there is significant evidence he committed a crime. Fair or not all Trump's campaign is going to be about is his multiple indictments. Fair or not Trump is turning 77 in a few days. Trump's argument is also going to have to shift from "I'm innocent" to "Well, I what I did wasn't that illegal and Democrats have done worse."

None of that is going to result in him winning. Independents and Women already hate him and this will make them hate him more, especially after hearing about it for the next year along with the additional indictments to come. That sucks but its reality.

If he is the nominee and loses we are completely screwed. The Dems will stack the SC and it's all over. If DeSantis is the nominee he likely wins, pardons Trump, and reforms the Deep State or at least has a real chance to do so because he is the best qualified to do so.

Thus the intelligent option is DeSantis even if you are a Trump supporter.
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The Green Dragon said:

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

boboguitar said:

Curious is they have evidence of him selling these documents. We already know he's a traitor, it's just to what extent now.


If you ever wonder how the Germans could ever let the nazi regime rise to power, look at posters like this and realize there is nothing new under the sun. History repeats itself because ignorant people either don't understand it or refuse to learn from it.



I support old trump, but why would you attack a poster for asking a legitimate question?


You mean the question of calling Trump a traitor? I was taught the difference between statements and questions in the 2nd grade.
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eric76 said:

Rockdoc said:

Rapier108 said:

eric76 said:

Rapier108 said:

eric76 said:

Gigem314 said:

eric76 said:

Rapier108 said:

eric76 said:

Garrelli 5000 said:

Person 1 - legally takes documents he had legal authority to possess - keeps them - indicted.
Person 2 - illegaly takes documents he did not have legal authority to possess - keeps them - indicts Person 1.

Person 2 is liberalism and anyone that votes Democrat in a nutshell.

Both had legal access to classified documents while in office and neither had the right to keep them after they were no longer in office.
Except Person 1 had the legal authority to declassify almost any document he wanted and thus retain possession.
Is there any indication that he ever went through the process to declassify the documents he had in his possession?

All we have is his whiny cries that he is a victim.
Who cares when Biden never even has the clearance as VP but kept them for years? Why should this even be an issue? It's nothing but a distraction.
Vice Presidents do not have access to classified documents?
Yes they do, but they do not have authorization to declassify them on their own.
And there is no indication that Trump declassified them other than his own whining claims that he somehow magically declassified them.
A president can declassify anything he wants simply by saying it is declassified.

He does not have to follow the process like others do. The president is the ultimate classification/declassification authority in the government. Only things specifically classified by laws passed by Congress would be outside his purview such as the designs of nuclear weapons.

I know nothing anyone says to you will change your mind. You hate Trump so therefore he is automatically guilty and because it is Trump, you don't care if they burn down the country and the rule of law just to finally get him.


Eric has a one track mind, and that is off track. Don't waste your time.
Not a one track mind at all. I am, however, completely convinced that Trump is nothing but a whiny fraud and cannot understand how anyone can fall for his crap.

You'd be accused of being a whiny fraud too if you had been subjected to the political persecution and personal attacks he has been subjected to for the last 7 years.

Your dislike of Trump has blinded you to what's occurring in our country. The government is totally corrupt and the media and federal law enforcement agencies have been weaponized against one political party.

We are well on our way to losing the Republic and faithful democrats like yourself won't have that utopia you envision.
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The Green Dragon said:

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

boboguitar said:

Curious is they have evidence of him selling these documents. We already know he's a traitor, it's just to what extent now.


If you ever wonder how the Germans could ever let the nazi regime rise to power, look at posters like this and realize there is nothing new under the sun. History repeats itself because ignorant people either don't understand it or refuse to learn from it.



I support old trump, but why would you attack a poster for asking a legitimate question?


lol…Do you have any familiarity with bobo at all? He is the definition of partisan hack…that's why 99% of his posts on this board are nonsensical drive-by posts.

Also, what question was he asking?
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So the question is: who are the alleged conspirators?
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Ags77 said:

There is always a video or a tweet. I just turned on the TV and saw a video of Trump saying he thinks that mishandling classified documents is a DISQUALIFIER for being President. It was a reference about Hillary, I think, though he didn't say her name.

Then he signed a law making the crime for being convicted of mishandling classified documents much stronger. Irony everywhere.


Mishandled in what way? Stored under lock and key at his office that's protected by Secret Service 24/7?

Trump didn't pull a Sandy Burger the Crossfire Hurricane docs were packed up and transferred by staffers.

Seriously the FBI confiscated

31 confidential documents, 54 "secret" documents and 18 "top secret."
48 empty folders with classified banners
42 folders marked "return to staff secretary/military aide"
More than 11,000 government documents or pictures without classification markings
Nearly 1,700 magazines, newspapers or press clippings
19 articles of clothing or gift items
33 books

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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

lol…Do you have any familiarity with bobo at all? He is the definition of partisan hack…that's why 99% of his posts on this board are nonsensical drive-by posts.

Also, what question was he asking?


The "traitor" slight aside, he's asking a legit question of whether he sold this information. I want to know. I also want Biden prosecutes for his alleged bribery
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What's this about a recording regarding the docs associated with attacking Iran that he was sharing in New Jersey with the writers of Mark Meadows book where he said if he was still President he could declassify but since he wasn't he can't anymore? I was reading something about it on twitter but can't find it anymore. Supposedly caught him on tape saying this in September or October of 2021?
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The Green Dragon said:

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

lol…Do you have any familiarity with bobo at all? He is the definition of partisan hack…that's why 99% of his posts on this board are nonsensical drive-by posts.

Also, what question was he asking?


The "traitor" slight aside, he's asking a legit question of whether he sold this information. I want to know. I also want Biden prosecutes for his alleged bribery


It's not a question, it's an accusation that has no basis.

I wonder if Trump murdered someone at Mar A Lago?

I wonder if Trump stole money from the Chik FIL A he eats at?

Do you understand the concept of an accusation in the form of a question?

Throwing out baseless accusations is what partisan hacks do. Don't be that guy. Be better.
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The Green Dragon said:

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

lol…Do you have any familiarity with bobo at all? He is the definition of partisan hack…that's why 99% of his posts on this board are nonsensical drive-by posts.

Also, what question was he asking?


The "traitor" slight aside, he's asking a legit question of whether he sold this information. I want to know. I also want Biden prosecutes for his alleged bribery
Just like him being a traitor with Russia was a complete lie, smart people would realize this is a complete lie as well. But keep on giving liars the benefit of the doubt only to find out you were duped again 3 years later, that's what they want.
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The Green Dragon said:

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

lol…Do you have any familiarity with bobo at all? He is the definition of partisan hack…that's why 99% of his posts on this board are nonsensical drive-by posts.

Also, what question was he asking?


The "traitor" slight aside, he's asking a legit question of whether he sold this information. I want to know. I also want Biden prosecutes for his alleged bribery


Do people that are seriously asking this question ever stop for half a second and think..."why would a man worth billions of dollars sell classified information for a few million"

How does that make any sense to anyone?
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Why call trump a traitor while Biden just rolls on down the road? It appears there are records showing the Bidens selling out our country. I don't see them being labeled as traitors or being indicted.
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Well, they should. That's the problem with a party controlled media.
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LMCane said:

The Green Dragon said:

I ****ing told you over a year ago and all I got was CM! You couldn't open your eyes and realize that it's possible to resent a prosecution but also say what's gonna happen.

The guy is going to prison. Unless there is some sort of exception for presidents that I don't know about, he's going to prison.

And I'd vote for trump in a second. I'm just stating what's going to happen. The Feds do not indict unless they are certain to convict. To the deluded trump fanbois: this is happening. It's real.

if the Trump cultists were smart, they would ensure DeSantis wins to then pardon their guy

but since they are not intelligent, they will back a flailing out of control 80 year old who will go down to a worse defeat than Bob Dole in 1996

If Trump was at all intelligent, he would drop out now and back DeSantis. that would ensure he could get a pardon and maybe the leftists then drop their trials against him since he is no longer relevant.
"Trump cultists"
"Not intelligent"

Very nice.
Why are so many Trump and DeSantis backers so focused on tearing down the other side and failing to see who the real enemy is? The communists hellbent on tearing this country apart are succeeding with their goal of dividing the conservative right. Divide and conquer.


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The Green Dragon said:

Well, they should. That's the problem with a party controlled media.

Haven't you heard. There's a two tiered justice system.
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The Green Dragon said:

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

lol…Do you have any familiarity with bobo at all? He is the definition of partisan hack…that's why 99% of his posts on this board are nonsensical drive-by posts.

Also, what question was he asking?


The "traitor" slight aside, he's asking a legit question of whether he sold this information.


Based on what…?

" Curious is they have evidence of Green Dragon beating his wife. We already know he's a degenerate, it's just to what extent now."

See how ridiculous that is?
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boboguitar said:

Curious is they have evidence of him selling these documents. We already know he's a traitor, it's just to what extent now.
Traitor?
You're talking about Biden right? He's the 1 who was paid millions by foreign entities for his political influence.

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Logos Stick said:

No Spin Ag said:

Ags77 said:

There is always a video or a tweet. I just turned on the TV and saw a video of Trump saying he thinks that mishandling classified documents is a DISQUALIFIER for being President. It was a reference about Hillary, I think, though he didn't say her name.

Then he signed a law making the crime for being convicted of mishandling classified documents much stronger. Irony everywhere.


If that is the case, then yeah, that would be the irony of all ironies.


Trump is not being charged under that law. I'm not surprised that you and other liberals don't understand the definition of irony.

The reason they are not charging him under that law is because Trump had the right to declassify any document he wanted. The tyrants you voted for know that and know it wouldn't stick.

You think this is a laughing matter but it's not. There are clearly two sets of justice now. Even those on the right who don't support Trump understand it. This country was already in the gutter because of woke leftist policies and the cult of climate change. Now it's been made worse.


So then there's no irony. K.

It's all entertaining, and has been for years.

The "country is going to hell" has been said when slaves were freed, women were given the right to vote, women were allowed to use birth control, gays were given the right to marry, etc. ad nauseum.

Trust me, your life will be fine no matter what happens to Trump.

I'm sure maga still enjoy their friends and families today. They'll still have fun at whatever plans they've made for this weekend or summer vacation. They'll still get to celebrate the births of any loved ones, etc etc

That will all happen no matter what happens to Trump. Now if whatever happens to Trump ruins any of those things, then those people need to rethink their lives.

As for there being two sets of Justice. Every minority, including women, would like to welcome those t thinking that now to the party.
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Rockdoc said:

boboguitar said:

Curious is they have evidence of him selling these documents. We already know he's a traitor, it's just to what extent now.

Have you looked at your own people bobo? Have you wondered why they haven't received the same treatment? Of course you haven't. You're a good little brainwashed soldier.
on the other hand, why is it that the Trump defenders always have to pull the WHATABOUTISM card?

how about we select a nominee who has never been: impeached, insulted hundreds of people, credibly accused and found guilty of sexual crimes, indicted for state and Federal crimes now twice.

is that a bar too high for a country of 330 million people now?!?!
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This is an act of desperation

There is a heavy war behind the scenes and it shows the its flipped

And again

Ask yourself

Why particularly if Ron Polls better
Vs Biden. Much

Why are they trying to take him out?

He knows where the bodies are buried
And they know it
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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

Trump is being indicted for crimes Biden committed.

What a country…


In my life I have witnessed this fact again and again. I can set my watch to democrats blaming republicans of things they actually did and not the other way around. Honor and integrity aren't high on their list.
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LMCane said:

Rockdoc said:

boboguitar said:

Curious is they have evidence of him selling these documents. We already know he's a traitor, it's just to what extent now.

Have you looked at your own people bobo? Have you wondered why they haven't received the same treatment? Of course you haven't. You're a good little brainwashed soldier.
on the other hand, why is it that the Trump defenders always have to pull the WHATABOUTISM card?

how about we select a nominee who has never been: impeached, insulted hundreds of people, credibly accused and found guilty of sexual crimes, indicted for state and Federal crimes now twice.

is that a bar too high for a country of 330 million people now?!?!
Trump was never "found guilty" of sex crimes. It was a civil suit that was purely he said, she said, but the NYC jury of course sided against Trump.
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Daddy said:

This is an act of desperation

There is a heavy war behind the scenes and it shows the ots flipped

And again

Ask yourself

Why particularly if Ron Pools better
Vs Biden. Much

Why are they trying to take him out?

He knows where the bodies are buried
And they know it
1. They want Trump to be the nominee and hope these indictments will get people to vote for Trump in the primary out of a desire for revenge.

2. They will go after DeSantis, or anyone else, if he or she is the nominee.

3. They will take out Trump permanently, one way or the other, if the Democrats win the next election.
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No Spin Ag said:

Logos Stick said:

No Spin Ag said:

Ags77 said:

There is always a video or a tweet. I just turned on the TV and saw a video of Trump saying he thinks that mishandling classified documents is a DISQUALIFIER for being President. It was a reference about Hillary, I think, though he didn't say her name.

Then he signed a law making the crime for being convicted of mishandling classified documents much stronger. Irony everywhere.


If that is the case, then yeah, that would be the irony of all ironies.


Trump is not being charged under that law. I'm not surprised that you and other liberals don't understand the definition of irony.

The reason they are not charging him under that law is because Trump had the right to declassify any document he wanted. The tyrants you voted for know that and know it wouldn't stick.

You think this is a laughing matter but it's not. There are clearly two sets of justice now. Even those on the right who don't support Trump understand it. This country was already in the gutter because of woke leftist policies and the cult of climate change. Now it's been made worse.


So then there's no irony. K.

It's all entertaining, and has been for years.

The "country is going to hell" has been said when slaves were freed, women were given the right to vote, women were allowed to use birth control, gays were given the right to marry, etc. ad nauseum.

Trust me, your life will be fine no matter what happens to Trump.

I'm sure maga still enjoy their friends and families today. They'll still have fun at whatever plans they've made for this weekend or summer vacation. They'll still get to celebrate the births of any loved ones, etc etc

That will all happen no matter what happens to Trump. Now if whatever happens to Trump ruins any of those things, then those people need to rethink their lives.

As for there being two sets of Justice. Every minority, including women, would like to welcome those t thinking that now to the party.


So unless it personally affects you, it's pointless to be concerned about it? By that logic, who cares if any criminal is brought to justice then. Unless it was a crime against you personally, who cares?

Lopping off genitals of kids is not the same as bussing minorities to a different school. We are a nation of complete degeneracy now. I've never seen anything like it and I've been around a while.

As far as your statement about women and injustice, two wrongs make a right is a logical fallacy.

Poor argument all around.
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Rapier108 said:

Daddy said:

This is an act of desperation

There is a heavy war behind the scenes and it shows the ots flipped

And again

Ask yourself

Why particularly if Ron Pools better
Vs Biden. Much

Why are they trying to take him out?

He knows where the bodies are buried
And they know it
1. They want Trump to be the nominee and hope these indictments will get people to vote for Trump in the primary out of a desire for revenge.

2. They will go after DeSantis, or anyone else, if he or she is the nominee.

3. They will take out Trump permanently, one way or the other, if the Democrats win the next election.


Not at all
Does this make anyone not want Trump?

His base gets more fired up

Only the educated elite who are never trumpets are spreading this


In fact you know who's even more Trump now?

Blacks
Hispanics
White working class

Because they understand that the system is rigged against him.

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It's way more prevalent now more than ever: they're willfully ignorant.
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