Trump indicted over classified documents

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jt2hunt said:


Politics.
Trump will fix it.
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jt2hunt said:




It looks like the democrats are getting desperate.
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will25u said:




NARA is in for a world of hurt after this election.

That is not a good thing for a group who are supposed to collect and preserve our history in an impartial manner allowing others to make partisan assessments with the documentation. Their bread and butter has been service to both parties during and after their time in the White House. Choosing a side and colluding with them to create a crime is not a good look and will come with consequences with any level of Republican control after November.

Trump, if elected, needs to show no mercy to these bureaucrats. If not, then Republicans in Congress must give the National Archives and others the IRS/Lerner treatment. Cutting them off in funding is the only thing these folks will respect.
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Trump's single biggest mistake in his first term was underestimating the partisan loyalty entrenched in Federal alphabet programs. Party before country it seems. I doubt he makes this same mistake next term. I think we might really see a fullbattempt at draining the swamp.
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You knew it was over when they used a FISA warrant to wiretap Trump's campaign headquarters back in 2015 and nothing happened.
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Claverack said:

will25u said:




NARA is in for a world of hurt after this election.

That is not a good thing for a group who are supposed to collect and preserve our history in an impartial manner allowing others to make partisan assessments with the documentation. Their bread and butter has been service to both parties during and after their time in the White House. Choosing a side and colluding with them to create a crime is not a good look and will come with consequences with any level of Republican control after November.

Trump, if elected, needs to show no mercy to these bureaucrats. If not, then Republicans in Congress must give the National Archives and others the IRS/Lerner treatment. Cutting them off in funding is the only thing these folks will respect.

The guy in charge of NARA started the whole thing. He was about to retire when Trump left office and was watching the "transfer of power" and apparently saw Trump staff leaving the WH with boxes and decided that was not quite right and sent and email and it all fell out from that.

Nevermind that Obama, Bush 2, Clinton, etc. all did the same thing. But Trump does it and suddenly it's 'illegal'.
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He was about to retire
The John McClain of records administrators.

He probably at home right now posting photos of the meter reader on next-door.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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He was about to retire
The John McClain of records administrators.

He probably at home right now posting photos of the meter reader on next-door.
Should have clarified I was going from memory. But I was sure he was about to retire, or change jobs or something.
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Amicus Brief saying 11th circuit should kick Cannon off the case.




Jack Smith's brief did not ask that Cannon be removed. Why not you ask?




Because it's stupid.



I'm Gipper
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Former President Trump should be forced to give up his passport to stop him from fleeing the country and avoiding prosecution if he loses the presidential election, according to ex-federal prosecutor Randall Eliason.
Seizing Trump's passport back in the news. .
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Aileen Cannon assigned Trump assassination case.

Ok, thank you drive through.
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Aileen Cannon assigned Trump assassination case.

Ok, thank you drive through.

She's going to give him the death penalty twice.
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Bump!

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The government filed a plea in abatement here. They simply is asking for more time to file a reply brief that already had a deadline. We'll have a better indication of what might happen here on December 2nd. So it's misleading to say that Smith is asking the court to 'throw out the appeal.' That's not what's happening here. We'll know in 3-weeks.
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Since the possibility that Trump becomes president has been in the air awhile they should be held to their deadline.
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will25u said:


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Trumps new doj, should settle trumps lawsuit and pay him in full, 100 million.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

The government filed a plea in abatement here. They simply is asking for more time to file a reply brief that already had a deadline. We'll have a better indication of what might happen here on December 2nd. So it's misleading to say that Smith is asking the court to 'throw out the appeal.' That's not what's happening here. We'll know in 3-weeks.
Let me explain what is actually happening here. Ifthe 11th Circuit rules in Jude Cannon's favor (and remember that Justice Thomas concurrence that could easily have started with, "Dear Judge Aileen Cannon, Jack Smith was not properly appointed and has no authority. HTH." it is likely they would so rule.

So the thinking then would turn to whether Robert Mueller was properly appointed and if he had authority to bring the cases he did. Now there were some monir differences between how Rosenstein did it with Mueller and Garland just unleashed Smith. But are those just distinctions without a difference under the law?

People who have convictions or guilty pleas pursuant to Mueller's investigation could and would apply fr their convictions to be vacated under that theory. So Smith doesn't want a federal appellate court to go there because of the downstream issues with Mueller.
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will25u
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Without prejudice. Another case that can be brought later. SOL is 5 years?

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So, have trump doj bring suit and dismiss it with prejudice this time in a favorable court instead of these kangaroo courts.
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Does anyone here know what's involved in an "election interference case"?

I only ask because there are about ten cases in the last year that could easily be declared election interference, IMO. I don't know if a specific body of our government brings it or if it comes from a law suit.

OTOH, if left alone, and nothing else is done, there's an outstanding precedent to financially beat any Dem candidate to death. It's highly unlikely a Dem would have $100 million in attorneys fees to defend themselves since Democrats always get rich ONCE they've been elected.
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Here the chaser/parting shot. Although don't know the site reporting it. I wouldn't doubt it to be true.

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11th Circuit officially dismissed the appeal as to Donald Trump. It continues as to the two other defendants.

Jack Smith also filed his reply brief in that appeal. (https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68955302/80/united-states-v-donald-trump/)
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will25u said:

Here the chaser/parting shot. Although don't know the site reporting it. I wouldn't doubt it to be true.


Special counsel is required by law to write a report. There will be a report.

The Attorney General has discretion to release it publicly or not. Garland released all previous special counsel reports.
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aggiehawg said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

The government filed a plea in abatement here. They simply is asking for more time to file a reply brief that already had a deadline. We'll have a better indication of what might happen here on December 2nd. So it's misleading to say that Smith is asking the court to 'throw out the appeal.' That's not what's happening here. We'll know in 3-weeks.
Let me explain what is actually happening here. Ifthe 11th Circuit rules in Jude Cannon's favor (and remember that Justice Thomas concurrence that could easily have started with, "Dear Judge Aileen Cannon, Jack Smith was not properly appointed and has no authority. HTH." it is likely they would so rule.

So the thinking then would turn to whether Robert Mueller was properly appointed and if he had authority to bring the cases he did. Now there were some monir differences between how Rosenstein did it with Mueller and Garland just unleashed Smith. But are those just distinctions without a difference under the law?

People who have convictions or guilty pleas pursuant to Mueller's investigation could and would apply fr their convictions to be vacated under that theory. So Smith doesn't want a federal appellate court to go there because of the downstream issues with Mueller.
Nah. Mueller's appointment was challenged and the D.C. Circuit ruled on that several years ago.

If Jack Smith and the Justice Department didn't want this appeal to continue, they could have easily dropped it as to the other two co-defendants but they didn't. And as I posted, they filed their response brief today.


(p.s. for the legal nerds. It doesn't work this way. To do something like this, the "Mueller folks" would have to still be in *custody* at the time the Supreme Court itself ruled on Jack Smith and the Supreme Court would have to say the ruling applies retroactively and collaterally. I'm not sure any of them are in custody, yet alone would be by the time a Supreme Court opinion could come out.)
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will25u said:

Without prejudice. Another case that can be brought later. SOL is 5 years?



I would imagine the SOL is tolled while Trump is President.
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