A little earlier than expected, but all of the Biden voting CM's on this board will make the same pivot over the next 18 months. They are really "lifelong conservatives" that wanted to vote for Desantis (if he's the nominee), but the media will instruct them on why he is "too extreme", and so they'll have no choice but to vote for open borders, crime waves, inflation, disastrous foreign policy, and the targeting of conservatives by our government.

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If you 'haven't seen' Dems target private companies, you either haven't been looking, you have your head in the sand or stuck up some orifice, you are incapable of seeing, or you are lying.

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One, I'm not voting for Dems either. Two, please cite examples - preferably those on a consequential scale such as this.

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I found the most liberal media outlet I could for you. As someone in energy your assertion is laughable and you know it. He literally ran on the platform of putting oil and gas companies out of business.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/climate/carbon-biden-drilling-climate.html

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Not voting and posting on this page should not be allowed
Its like posting opinions on movies you havent seen.

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Or posting about public schools vs private when you don't have any kids. You need to have some relevant skin in the game for your post to carry any weight in opinion

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Looks like DeSantis doesn't like to lose. He doesn't like being outsmarted so he's going to try again.

I know most in here will disagree, but I don't think this is a good look for him. This is bully behavior for a company having opinion. Win or lose, the battle was over, and now he's making it a war.

The Reedy Creek action could be written off as, "Oh they're just leveling the playing field, taking away benefits." But new taxes and toll roads would be pure punishment.

There's a line between aggressive and too aggressive, and I think any new action will cross that line. I don't see this going over well with independents and centrists. It's just going to make him look like a bully. This is precisely the sort of thing that would keep me from voting for him.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/06/desantis-disney-hotel-taxes-toll-rodes-00090959

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Disney was already making war on families via corruption and brainwashing of their children, thereby making war on America overall. I support whatever it takes to drive them into the ground or the far away dark corners of the world, or Europe.

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Not voting and posting on this page should not be allowed
Its like posting opinions on movies you havent seen.

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Or posting about public schools vs private when you don't have any kids. You need to have some relevant skin in the game for your post to carry any weight in opinion

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terrible post.

paying property taxes is the only skin in the game one needs to comment on schools.

what about a teacher with no kids? they can't comment either?

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Not voting and posting on this page should not be allowed
Its like posting opinions on movies you havent seen.

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Or posting about public schools vs private when you don't have any kids. You need to have some relevant skin in the game for your post to carry any weight in opinion

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So if people see someone being harmed they should just record everything on their phone & do nothing lol...how about no.

My first is only 2 month old, and given the current state of public education he is going to be home schooled.

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Not voting and posting on this page should not be allowed
Its like posting opinions on movies you havent seen.

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Or posting about public schools vs private when you don't have any kids. You need to have some relevant skin in the game for your post to carry any weight in opinion

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So a therapist can't give marriage advice because she isn't in the marriage. Sometimes an outside unaffiliated perspective can provide the best objectivity on what should be done.

Trump organization would disagree with you on that.

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But to say the Dems do this is a twist on the truth. They attack political rivals but they don't attack private companies. They may voice opinions, but I haven't seen them leveling policy against targeted private companies to score political points in a culture war.

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This reeks of a statement that's designed to troll and exhaust. It's willful ignorance intended to get people to spin their wheels and expend time and energy trying to convince you in good faith when it's unlikely there's a mutual good faith discussion happening. Putting it simply, there's no way you could have existed in a conservative sphere, especially in the modern internet age, and not seen a plethora of examples of the Democrats targeting private companies and individuals. They have outright harassed a baker for years. They have weaponized government agencies to harass non-profits. They have had intelligence agencies directly reach out to social media platforms to manipulate the information space. They have attacked firearms companies and fossil fuel companies. These are just a few examples, and you would know them well if you were actually anywhere close to being right of center. The algorithms on numerous websites and services would not allow you not to know.

Disney is not some innocent, helpless company, either. They've invested quite a lot of money on leftist social messaging and political causes, and they have openly opposed the GOP. They inserted themselves into politics, and they don't get to cry when they don't only reap rewards.

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If that's your stance, who do you vote for?

You've likely ruled out desantis.

You must also rule out whatever democrat is the nominee. Since Biden took over, the doj has targeted conservatives or even those who simply disagree with school boards. The dems use the federal bureaucracy as a sledge hammer against their opponents.

So, who do vote for?

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I likely don't vote, but it's mostly moot because I live in Texas so our electoral votes are already settled.

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If you don't participate as a voter, why would you participate in the politics board?

Can't seek attention without making your lunacy known.

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Disney is not some innocent, helpless company, either. They've invested quite a lot of money on leftist social messaging and political causes, and they have openly opposed the GOP. They inserted themselves into politics, and they don't get to cry when they don't only reap rewards.

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So much this. When you choose to engage politically as a company, then be prepared for the consequences. Sometimes you get what you want and sometimes you don't. But to cry "unfair" when you don't is incredibly childish.

If you can't stand the heat in the kitchen, get out.

I'll still vote for him, but this is petty and the type of government overreach I despise.

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If you 'haven't seen' Dems target private companies, you either haven't been looking, you have your head in the sand or stuck up some orifice, you are incapable of seeing, or you are lying.

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One, I'm not voting for Dems either. Two, please cite examples - preferably those on a consequential scale such as this.

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Everything you've said is leftist. You've defended the left while coming here with your "concern" for Desantis. The gif is up lefty, you can go home now

So just take an action and as long as lip service is paid, don't follow through? Exactly why would this be a good course of action. Do you still subscribe to National Review, the Bulwark and the Dispatch?

As WaffleDynamics said above. Disney inserted themselves in the political realm.

I remember when no normal company(non activist) would engage in political speech. No trans speech, no feminist speech, no gay speech. NONE.

But now you have every company making political statements left and right.

I don't want HerSHEys making political statements. I want them making delicious chocolate. I don't care if they privately donate to rights groups. But I don't want it pushed into my face through advertisements, etc. Just make chocolate and let me live MY life as I see fit.

Not everything has to be political. In fact, most everything should NOT be political.

Stop pushing everything to be political. And we would be a happier country because of it.

Go RonnyD Go.

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A little earlier than expected, but all of the Biden voting CM's on this board will make the same pivot over the next 18 months. They are really "lifelong conservatives" that wanted to vote for Desantis (if he's the nominee), but the media will instruct them on why he is "too extreme", and so they'll have no choice but to vote for open borders, crime waves, inflation, disastrous foreign policy, and the targeting of conservatives by our government.

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Every Republican presidential nominee is literally Hitler until the next nominee comes along.

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If you 'haven't seen' Dems target private companies, you either haven't been looking, you have your head in the sand or stuck up some orifice, you are incapable of seeing, or you are lying.

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One, I'm not voting for Dems either. Two, please cite examples - preferably those on a consequential scale such as this.

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I found the most liberal media outlet I could for you. As someone in energy your assertion is laughable and you know it. He literally ran on the platform of putting oil and gas companies out of business.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/climate/carbon-biden-drilling-climate.html

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There are policies that impact companies all the time. I'm talking about targeting a single company as retribution for voicing a dissenting option.

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Looks like DeSantis doesn't like to lose. He doesn't like being outsmarted so he's going to try again.

I know most in here will disagree, but I don't think this is a good look for him. This is bully behavior for a company having opinion. Win or lose, the battle was over, and now he's making it a war.

The Reedy Creek action could be written off as, "Oh they're just leveling the playing field, taking away benefits." But new taxes and toll roads would be pure punishment.

There's a line between aggressive and too aggressive, and I think any new action will cross that line. I don't see this going over well with independents and centrists. It's just going to make him look like a bully. This is precisely the sort of thing that would keep me from voting for him.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/06/desantis-disney-hotel-taxes-toll-rodes-00090959

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Calling BS right here lol. There is no way anyone is stupid enough to fail to see that this stuff pales in comparison to the absolute sh** show circus the freaks you voted for (you'll deny it bc this is Texags and CM's gonna CM) are running. And the pain that has been inflicted on the common person.

Zero chance you were ever going to consider Desantis. You're a lib. We all know this. You probably believe there's a "don't say gay" bill.

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If you 'haven't seen' Dems target private companies, you either haven't been looking, you have your head in the sand or stuck up some orifice, you are incapable of seeing, or you are lying.

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One, I'm not voting for Dems either. Two, please cite examples - preferably those on a consequential scale such as this.

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I found the most liberal media outlet I could for you. As someone in energy your assertion is laughable and you know it. He literally ran on the platform of putting oil and gas companies out of business.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/climate/carbon-biden-drilling-climate.html

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There are policies that impact companies all the time. I'm talking about targeting a single company as retribution for voicing a dissenting option.

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Disney is openly FOR LGBTQ2XCP3+Z-1,000KPK% people being able to talk to 1st and 2nd graders behind parents backs about gender and sexuality. It's hardly just a petty "dissenting opinion". Children are off limits...I know that really irks a lot of you leftists. You guys are increasingly obsessed with having access to other peoples' children and certain states are starting to fight back and say "hell no".

I would honestly have a hard time not caving someone's face in, male or female, if I found out they were talking to my 7-8 yr old about sexuality and gender bullsh** behind my back. Desantis's actions are pretty tame in my book, but a step in the right direction.

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Jeeper79 said:

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Looks like DeSantis doesn't like to lose. He doesn't like being outsmarted so he's going to try again.

I know most in here will disagree, but I don't think this is a good look for him. This is bully behavior for a company having opinion. Win or lose, the battle was over, and now he's making it a war.

The Reedy Creek action could be written off as, "Oh they're just leveling the playing field, taking away benefits." But new taxes and toll roads would be pure punishment.

There's a line between aggressive and too aggressive, and I think any new action will cross that line. I don't see this going over well with independents and centrists. It's just going to make him look like a bully. This is precisely the sort of thing that would keep me from voting for him.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/06/desantis-disney-hotel-taxes-toll-rodes-00090959

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Calling BS right here lol. There is no way anyone is stupid enough to fail to see that this stuff pales in comparison to the absolute sh** show circus the freaks you voted for (you'll deny it bc this is Texags and CM's gonna CM) are running. And the pain that has been inflicted on the common person.

Zero chance you were ever going to consider Desantis. You're a lib. We all know this. You probably believe there's a "don't say gay" bill.

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I was coming around on him after he did this to Disney the first time. I've been very vocal that I think the culture war is stupid. I thought this was behind us, but I guess it's not. This is absolutely not the sort of behavior I want to see in a President.

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Jeeper79 said:

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Looks like DeSantis doesn't like to lose. He doesn't like being outsmarted so he's going to try again.

I know most in here will disagree, but I don't think this is a good look for him. This is bully behavior for a company having opinion. Win or lose, the battle was over, and now he's making it a war.

The Reedy Creek action could be written off as, "Oh they're just leveling the playing field, taking away benefits." But new taxes and toll roads would be pure punishment.

There's a line between aggressive and too aggressive, and I think any new action will cross that line. I don't see this going over well with independents and centrists. It's just going to make him look like a bully. This is precisely the sort of thing that would keep me from voting for him.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/06/desantis-disney-hotel-taxes-toll-rodes-00090959

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Calling BS right here lol. There is no way anyone is stupid enough to fail to see that this stuff pales in comparison to the absolute sh** show circus the freaks you voted for (you'll deny it bc this is Texags and CM's gonna CM) are running. And the pain that has been inflicted on the common person.

Zero chance you were ever going to consider Desantis. You're a lib. We all know this. You probably believe there's a "don't say gay" bill.

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I was coming around on him after he did this to Disney the first time. I've been very vocal that I think the culture war is stupid. I thought this was behind us, but I guess it's not. This is absolutely not the sort of behavior I want to see in a President.

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If taking action against people or companies who advocate for teachers being able to talk to 7 yr olds about sexuality and gender theory behind parents backs is the straw that breaks the camel's back for you, then you have major issues, no offense. It is a good law and liberal Disney is in the wrong for fighting against it.

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If you 'haven't seen' Dems target private companies, you either haven't been looking, you have your head in the sand or stuck up some orifice, you are incapable of seeing, or you are lying.

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One, I'm not voting for Dems either. Two, please cite examples - preferably those on a consequential scale such as this.

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Amazon trying to open an HQ in NY.

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rwtxag83 said:

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If you 'haven't seen' Dems target private companies, you either haven't been looking, you have your head in the sand or stuck up some orifice, you are incapable of seeing, or you are lying.

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One, I'm not voting for Dems either. Two, please cite examples - preferably those on a consequential scale such as this.

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I found the most liberal media outlet I could for you. As someone in energy your assertion is laughable and you know it. He literally ran on the platform of putting oil and gas companies out of business.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/climate/carbon-biden-drilling-climate.html

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There are policies that impact companies all the time. I'm talking about targeting a single company as retribution for voicing a dissenting option.

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You serious, Clark? You are embarrassing yourself on this thread.

How about Hobby Lobby which is just one of many examples.

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Jeeper79 said:

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Looks like DeSantis doesn't like to lose. He doesn't like being outsmarted so he's going to try again.

I know most in here will disagree, but I don't think this is a good look for him. This is bully behavior for a company having opinion. Win or lose, the battle was over, and now he's making it a war.

The Reedy Creek action could be written off as, "Oh they're just leveling the playing field, taking away benefits." But new taxes and toll roads would be pure punishment.

There's a line between aggressive and too aggressive, and I think any new action will cross that line. I don't see this going over well with independents and centrists. It's just going to make him look like a bully. This is precisely the sort of thing that would keep me from voting for him.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/06/desantis-disney-hotel-taxes-toll-rodes-00090959

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Calling BS right here lol. There is no way anyone is stupid enough to fail to see that this stuff pales in comparison to the absolute sh** show circus the freaks you voted for (you'll deny it bc this is Texags and CM's gonna CM) are running. And the pain that has been inflicted on the common person.

Zero chance you were ever going to consider Desantis. You're a lib. We all know this. You probably believe there's a "don't say gay" bill.

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I was coming around on him after he did this to Disney the first time. I've been very vocal that I think the culture war is stupid. I thought this was behind us, but I guess it's not. This is absolutely not the sort of behavior I want to see in a President.

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So because he is doing this ONE thing it makes you not vote for DeSantis?

Then you are not a true Conservative/Republican. You are willing to look the other way on the other 99.9999% of other good conservative actions and this one thing is all it takes to make you vote otherwise? HA.

If you are a true Republican then this is exactly why Republicans always lose and we have to deal with Democrats trashing our country.

And Disney is in a very special circumstance with the state of Florida. You can't separate that from the discussion either. Disney was afforded special status from when it was built in relation to the local and state government. If it was a different company, this doesn't happen.

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Jeeper79 said:

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Looks like DeSantis doesn't like to lose. He doesn't like being outsmarted so he's going to try again.

I know most in here will disagree, but I don't think this is a good look for him. This is bully behavior for a company having opinion. Win or lose, the battle was over, and now he's making it a war.

The Reedy Creek action could be written off as, "Oh they're just leveling the playing field, taking away benefits." But new taxes and toll roads would be pure punishment.

There's a line between aggressive and too aggressive, and I think any new action will cross that line. I don't see this going over well with independents and centrists. It's just going to make him look like a bully. This is precisely the sort of thing that would keep me from voting for him.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/06/desantis-disney-hotel-taxes-toll-rodes-00090959

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Calling BS right here lol. There is no way anyone is stupid enough to fail to see that this stuff pales in comparison to the absolute sh** show circus the freaks you voted for (you'll deny it bc this is Texags and CM's gonna CM) are running. And the pain that has been inflicted on the common person.

Zero chance you were ever going to consider Desantis. You're a lib. We all know this. You probably believe there's a "don't say gay" bill.

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I was coming around on him after he did this to Disney the first time. I've been very vocal that I think the culture war is stupid. I thought this was behind us, but I guess it's not. This is absolutely not the sort of behavior I want to see in a President.

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So because he is doing this ONE thing it makes you not vote for DeSantis?

Then you are not a true Conservative/Republican. You are willing to look the other way on the other 99.9999% of other good conservative actions and this one thing is all it takes to make you vote otherwise? HA.

If you are a true Republican then this is exactly why Republicans always lose and we have to deal with Democrats trashing our country.

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It's a troll

"Ron is a big bully!!"

Mkay.

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rwtxag83 said:

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If you 'haven't seen' Dems target private companies, you either haven't been looking, you have your head in the sand or stuck up some orifice, you are incapable of seeing, or you are lying.

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One, I'm not voting for Dems either. Two, please cite examples - preferably those on a consequential scale such as this.

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I found the most liberal media outlet I could for you. As someone in energy your assertion is laughable and you know it. He literally ran on the platform of putting oil and gas companies out of business.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/climate/carbon-biden-drilling-climate.html

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There are policies that impact companies all the time. I'm talking about targeting a single company as retribution for voicing a dissenting option.

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Good lord. We all know you're voting dem, so just stop.

Targeting entire industries that have created cheap and plentiful energy necessary for everyday life and our high standard of living = not concerning at all

Targeting a single company that supports allowing teachers to talk to 6 year olds about sex and gender identity = a bridge too far

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Jeeper79 said:

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Looks like DeSantis doesn't like to lose. He doesn't like being outsmarted so he's going to try again.

I know most in here will disagree, but I don't think this is a good look for him. This is bully behavior for a company having opinion. Win or lose, the battle was over, and now he's making it a war.

The Reedy Creek action could be written off as, "Oh they're just leveling the playing field, taking away benefits." But new taxes and toll roads would be pure punishment.

There's a line between aggressive and too aggressive, and I think any new action will cross that line. I don't see this going over well with independents and centrists. It's just going to make him look like a bully. This is precisely the sort of thing that would keep me from voting for him.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/06/desantis-disney-hotel-taxes-toll-rodes-00090959

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Calling BS right here lol. There is no way anyone is stupid enough to fail to see that this stuff pales in comparison to the absolute sh** show circus the freaks you voted for (you'll deny it bc this is Texags and CM's gonna CM) are running. And the pain that has been inflicted on the common person.

Zero chance you were ever going to consider Desantis. You're a lib. We all know this. You probably believe there's a "don't say gay" bill.

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I was coming around on him after he did this to Disney the first time. I've been very vocal that I think the culture war is stupid. I thought this was behind us, but I guess it's not. This is absolutely not the sort of behavior I want to see in a President.

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Sorry you don't think we are in a culture war but maybe you should listen to our President saying that there should be no limits on the age for "gender affirming care" and taking the side of the shooter and folks who are storming state capitols instead of the people actually getting shot and harassed like Riley Gaines did last night.

We are in a war whether you like it or not, the only question is if you want to surrender. DeSantis' position is simply trying to get Disney to stay in their lane and get out of politics. They have a lot of room to do as they wish. He hit them and he did it the right way using the Legislature and on measures that were popular in Florida. They now have tried to subvert that law and likely broke the law in doing so and he is going to hit them again to make sure they understand they need to stay in their lane.

If you don't think stuff like ESG and companies getting active in pushing politics, especially social justice, on people is a problem you really need to open your eyes. They started the war and we have to fight back now or else we will lose everything. These folks don't want to let you be able to live as you want, they won't stop until you submit to their Woke culture. How are you going to feel when your 10 year old Grandchild decides to cut their privates off because they saw a show on Disney saying it was wonderful and the laws have been set so that if you oppose them doing so YOU lose custody or get thrown in jail? That's where this is headed and there are already signs of it in places like California and Washington, it's basically policy in Canada.

Wow.

Desantis - Maybe Disney should have to play by the same rules as other companies in the same county.

Dems - Tax oil companies because they made to much money this one year on their multi-year, 100s of millions dollar investments.

Nice try lib

Just remember..............................

F16 Liberals:

You know, you guys are just driving away voters, if you would just................

Get onboard with banning assault rifles, I would consider voting.......

End of prohibitions on pot, I would consider voting............

Compromise more on your position on abortion, I would probably vote............

Hey, quit bullying Disney and stop calling us groomers, I might vote.................

Quit opposing gender affirming care for minors, I would vote for..............

Get onboard with green energy, would totally vote for............


Haha, I'd keep voting for leftist dems sucker

I'm not sure why this whole thing is so hard to comprehend.

1. Disney had a special deal. The only company in the state to have such an arrangement.
2. All was fine until Disney waded into a state wide policy issue (law) that had nothing to do with them.
3. The Republicans (including DeSantis) took their special deal away.
4. When Disney decided to try and outsmart the State, the State decided to play hardball.


A worse look for the State of Florida (IMHO) would be to allow Disney to get away with it.

I live in WPB in the winter months.