TXAGFAN said:

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Zero justification? You watch the same video I did?

She is a textbook "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" example.

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It's ok to kill unarmed protestors as long as they are white and likely to be conservatives.

Got it.

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I don't care if they're purple AOC liberals.

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I call BS. You, like every other leftist, like the imbalance of justice and law used to punish your political adversaries.

Compare the mitigation of justice on J6 tourists, who did NOTHING compared to the riots at the White House, riots and attacks on Federal buildings in Portland, and riots and mobs during the 2020 'summer of love'.........

This charade is ending soon - and you will not like what is on the other side. I am not sure I will either for that matter..... but the pendulum will swing.... and your woke cult is going to be held accountable at every level of society. Media, Cultural institutions, Government, and those who participated in your Communist mobs.

January 6th was a MOSTLY PEACEFUL PROTEST; that's it!!

You can't add 'insurrection, riot, coup' etc. thereto.

This is YOUR game that YOUR party created; deal with it, along with the "cherry-picked" video segments that FACTUALLY rebuts some of the Dem's politicized, sensationalized, & clearly dishonest narrative!!

Wah- wah!!!

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American Hardwood said:

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AggieCo2023 said:

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One lesson of Jan 6 is this: Trump’s lies, spread on TV & social media, provoked a violent attack on our Capitol. No responsible adult, and especially no American pledged to our Constitution, should deny what happened or repeat the same reckless lies. pic.twitter.com/MReMysC534

— Liz Cheney (@Liz_Cheney) March 7, 2023

Can someone explain how Tucker showing cherry picked clips without violence is any different than what Conservatives accused Liberals of doing with the BLM protests? Conservatives ridiculed the phrase "mostly peaceful" protests endlessly all to turn around and do the same thing with Jan 6th. Do they think we didn't see the footage of them fighting Capitol Police. Hitting them with weapons? Multiple dead?

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Because Tucker's clips are a response to the what the left did. He cherry picked to show the rest of the story. No need to show the violent parts again, they have already been shown ad nauseum.

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Which narrative seems more likely, the one we've seen for a couple years in countless videos and extensive coverage or the clips Tucker found? Use your critical thinking, I know it means you may have to acknowledge Tucker is wrong and this was more than nothing (something even McCarthy has to acknowledge given his previous commentary on the day).

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Plenty on the dissident right were calling this thing a setup *before* it ever happened. The critical thinkers had it pegged the week of. It wasn't hard to see coming, they just used the exact same tactics they'd been using on the far right on the mainstream right.

The point isn't that violence never occurred, it's that it was premeditated by the very people who claimed to be victims of an insurrection. You've lost the plot here. The videos are being shown as evidence that capitol police facilitated the "insurrection", and that the violent instigators were plants.

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AggieCo2023 said:

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One lesson of Jan 6 is this: Trump’s lies, spread on TV & social media, provoked a violent attack on our Capitol. No responsible adult, and especially no American pledged to our Constitution, should deny what happened or repeat the same reckless lies. pic.twitter.com/MReMysC534

— Liz Cheney (@Liz_Cheney) March 7, 2023

Can someone explain how Tucker showing cherry picked clips without violence is any different than what Conservatives accused Liberals of doing with the BLM protests? Conservatives ridiculed the phrase "mostly peaceful" protests endlessly all to turn around and do the same thing with Jan 6th. Do they think we didn't see the footage of them fighting Capitol Police. Hitting them with weapons? Multiple dead?

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Because Tucker's clips are a response to the what the left did. He cherry picked to show the rest of the story. No need to show the violent parts again, they have already been shown ad nauseum.

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But Tucker wasn't doing it to "show all sides." He's pushing the narrative that Jan 6 was benign and not a big deal. He's attempting to normalize and downplay it. But I don't care what Tucker or the MSM shows me. I watched 1/6 live, as it happened, with my own eyes, before any news network could even attempt to change the narrative. And I will always be completely disgusted with the events of that day and I'll never forgive Trump or any of the other a**sholes (e.g. Ken Paxton) who participated and incited the crowd to do what they did.

Ok fine, some of the protesters were Joe Schmos who walked around the capitol and looked at pretty paintings and didn't do much else. Are they the problem? No, even though what they did was still a crime.

If the defense in the Alex Murdaugh trial shows the jury videos of Alex and his wife and son having a picnic in the park and having a great time together, what is that supposed to prove? That he didn't do it, because here's a video of him not murdering his wife and son?

That's why Tucker's segment on this is stupid. Showing innocuous things from that day does not change the other bad things that happened.

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It does show the absolute truth about one thing for sure: the police were very accommodating to the main protester and were more like tour guides of the Capitol for him. Not afraid, not threatened, not forceful, not barring the way to anything, but inviting. This fact alone raises a lot of questions about the Jan 6 committee narrative.

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And that's why the politicians and media who tried to make this look like another Benghazi or 9/11 are so enraged. They lied to create the narrative...and the leaked video disproves that narrative.

Security let the protesters and sight-seeing tourists in...then things escalated. It wasn't a coordinated and planned attack. The summer 2020 violent riots were more coordinated and planned than Jan 6 was.

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She was completely surrounded by police. While what she was doing was stupid, I am pretty sure the death penalty is not the legal punishment for it. There was not a family on the other side of that door. She was not going to be able to enter and hurt anyone. That is the definition of excessive force. And that cop didn't even have to face a Grand Jury.

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If the political parties were reversed, Conservatives would be saying "FAFO"! Liberals would be saying "They didn't' have to kill her!". You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.

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It does show the absolute truth about one thing for sure: the police were very accommodating to the main protester and were more like tour guides of the Capitol for him. Not afraid, not threatened, not forceful, not barring the way to anything, but inviting. This fact alone raises a lot of questions about the Jan 6 committee narrative.

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And that's why the politicians and media who tried to make this look like another Benghazi or 9/11 are so enraged. They lied to create the narrative...and the leaked video disproves that narrative.

Security let the protesters and sight-seeing tourists in...then things escalated. It wasn't a coordinated and planned attack. The summer 2020 violent riots were more coordinated and planned than Jan 6 was.

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they let SOME protesters in. They weren't sight-seeing tourists, they were protesters who didn't get violent. And most of them barged through the barriers and broke in. and the security was vastly outnumbered and probably undertrained and had no idea how to handle a situation like that, and thought the best course of action was path of least resistance.

no amount of pointing out how some people were peaceful is going to rid the stench of the bad things that happened on that day, much like the 2020 riots.

Where did OP go? Like most liberals here - asks a question trying to make a point, gets obliterated by facts, runs off into hiding.

Why are libs so triggered about the public seeing these videos released? It's f'ing hilarious watching them squirm all over like this.

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She got what she came for. She was brainwashed by Q. I'm sorry she had to die.

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But why her? Why did the weeping little b/tch pick Ashley Babbitt to shoot, an unarmed woman, instead of all the actual violent MEN that were there? Perhaps he feared killing a Fed.

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She was the one climbing thru the window?

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It does show the absolute truth about one thing for sure: the police were very accommodating to the main protester and were more like tour guides of the Capitol for him. Not afraid, not threatened, not forceful, not barring the way to anything, but inviting. This fact alone raises a lot of questions about the Jan 6 committee narrative.

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And that's why the politicians and media who tried to make this look like another Benghazi or 9/11 are so enraged. They lied to create the narrative...and the leaked video disproves that narrative.

Security let the protesters and sight-seeing tourists in...then things escalated. It wasn't a coordinated and planned attack. The summer 2020 violent riots were more coordinated and planned than Jan 6 was.

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they let SOME protesters in. They weren't sight-seeing tourists, they were protesters who didn't get violent. And most of them barged through the barriers and broke in. and the security was vastly outnumbered and probably undertrained and had no idea how to handle a situation like that, and thought the best course of action was path of least resistance.

no amount of pointing out how some people were peaceful is going to rid the stench of the bad things that happened on that day, much like the 2020 riots.

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But yet the 2020 riots are pretty much ignored by DC...no significant arrests...no investigations...no committees on primetime television. And we're told by people like our current VP that Jan 6 belongs in the same breath as 9/11 and Pearl Harbor...they treat it like a holiday now. It wasn't coordinated, it was a protest that got out of hand. The House leadership was asked to provide additional security on Jan 6...and refused.

Just another example of people not trusting elected leaders and the media. It's just all political theater. Nobody cares about truth.

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AggieCo2023 said:

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One lesson of Jan 6 is this: Trump’s lies, spread on TV & social media, provoked a violent attack on our Capitol. No responsible adult, and especially no American pledged to our Constitution, should deny what happened or repeat the same reckless lies. pic.twitter.com/MReMysC534

— Liz Cheney (@Liz_Cheney) March 7, 2023

Can someone explain how Tucker showing cherry picked clips without violence is any different than what Conservatives accused Liberals of doing with the BLM protests? Conservatives ridiculed the phrase "mostly peaceful" protests endlessly all to turn around and do the same thing with Jan 6th. Do they think we didn't see the footage of them fighting Capitol Police. Hitting them with weapons? Multiple dead?

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Because Tucker's clips are a response to the what the left did. He cherry picked to show the rest of the story. No need to show the violent parts again, they have already been shown ad nauseum.

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Which narrative seems more likely, the one we've seen for a couple years in countless videos and extensive coverage or the clips Tucker found? Use your critical thinking, I know it means you may have to acknowledge Tucker is wrong and this was more than nothing (something even McCarthy has to acknowledge given his previous commentary on the day).

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neither. it's always somewhere in the middle.

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It does show the absolute truth about one thing for sure: the police were very accommodating to the main protester and were more like tour guides of the Capitol for him. Not afraid, not threatened, not forceful, not barring the way to anything, but inviting. This fact alone raises a lot of questions about the Jan 6 committee narrative.

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And that's why the politicians and media who tried to make this look like another Benghazi or 9/11 are so enraged. They lied to create the narrative...and the leaked video disproves that narrative.

Security let the protesters and sight-seeing tourists in...then things escalated. It wasn't a coordinated and planned attack. The summer 2020 violent riots were more coordinated and planned than Jan 6 was.

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they let SOME protesters in. They weren't sight-seeing tourists, they were protesters who didn't get violent. And most of them barged through the barriers and broke in. and the security was vastly outnumbered and probably undertrained and had no idea how to handle a situation like that, and thought the best course of action was path of least resistance.

no amount of pointing out how some people were peaceful is going to rid the stench of the bad things that happened on that day, much like the 2020 riots.

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But yet the 2020 riots are pretty much ignored by DC...no significant arrests...no investigations...no committees on primetime television. And we're told by people like our current VP that Jan 6 belongs in the same breath as 9/11 and Pearl Harbor...they treat it like a holiday now. It wasn't coordinated, it was a protest that got out of hand. The House leadership was asked to provide additional security on Jan 6...and refused.

Just another example of people not trusting elected leaders and the media.

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It feels like that's all this is really about, the 2020 riots. It always comes back to that. Any discussion of 1/6 and it being bad is met with "but what about BLM." So really, Tucker's segment was just a f*** you segment.

Of course it's mind-numbingly stupid to compare 1/6 to 9/11. But I'm not going to let talking heads like Tucker, Trump, and people who support them to continue to try to normalize 1/6 and act like it wasn't a big deal. It was a big deal and was a bad day for America, and no amount of showing nice, nonviolent protesters is going to change that.

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Several people were climbing thru windows. I wonder what made her special to the fearful cop. Seriously, all kinds of chicken fighting was going on outside and the cops just stood there. People were entering the capitol thru many areas and no one else was shot or fired upon. Why her? I know you don't know and will accept whatever bs the capitol police spew. I'm just curious why this "brave defender" of the capitol only shot one unarmed woman and no one else.

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One lesson of Jan 6 is this: Trump’s lies, spread on TV & social media, provoked a violent attack on our Capitol. No responsible adult, and especially no American pledged to our Constitution, should deny what happened or repeat the same reckless lies. pic.twitter.com/MReMysC534

— Liz Cheney (@Liz_Cheney) March 7, 2023

Can someone explain how Tucker showing cherry picked clips without violence is any different than what Conservatives accused Liberals of doing with the BLM protests? Conservatives ridiculed the phrase "mostly peaceful" protests endlessly all to turn around and do the same thing with Jan 6th. Do they think we didn't see the footage of them fighting Capitol Police. Hitting them with weapons? Multiple dead?

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I didn't see multiple dead and none from the rioters. I guess you didn't see the video of Trump-voter Sicknick alive and well walking around the capitol after he had supposedly been killed.

And even the corrupt FBI found that Trump did NOT incite the riot. Trump said be peaceful both in his speech and his Tweets, which were removed from Twitter for some reason.

If the Antifa/BLM riots with fires and smoke visible in the background of the report can be "mostly peaceful", so can the capitol riot.

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One lesson of Jan 6 is this: Trump’s lies, spread on TV & social media, provoked a violent attack on our Capitol. No responsible adult, and especially no American pledged to our Constitution, should deny what happened or repeat the same reckless lies. pic.twitter.com/MReMysC534

— Liz Cheney (@Liz_Cheney) March 7, 2023

Can someone explain how Tucker showing cherry picked clips without violence is any different than what Conservatives accused Liberals of doing with the BLM protests? Conservatives ridiculed the phrase "mostly peaceful" protests endlessly all to turn around and do the same thing with Jan 6th. Do they think we didn't see the footage of them fighting Capitol Police. Hitting them with weapons? Multiple dead?

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Because Tucker's clips are a response to the what the left did. He cherry picked to show the rest of the story. No need to show the violent parts again, they have already been shown ad nauseum.

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But Tucker wasn't doing it to "show all sides." He's pushing the narrative that Jan 6 was benign and not a big deal. He's attempting to normalize and downplay it. But I don't care what Tucker or the MSM shows me. I watched 1/6 live, as it happened, with my own eyes, before any news network could even attempt to change the narrative. And I will always be completely disgusted with the events of that day and I'll never forgive Trump or any of the other a**sholes (e.g. Ken Paxton) who participated and incited the crowd to do what they did.

Ok fine, some of the protesters were Joe Schmos who walked around the capitol and looked at pretty paintings and didn't do much else. Are they the problem? No, even though what they did was still a crime.

If the defense in the Alex Murdaugh trial shows the jury videos of Alex and his wife and son having a picnic in the park and having a great time together, what is that supposed to prove? That he didn't do it, because here's a video of him not murdering his wife and son?

That's why Tucker's segment on this is stupid. Showing innocuous things from that day does not change the other bad things that happened.

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Bull***** He's asking the questions that should have been asked during the "inquiry".

Why were protesters allowed in?
Why were capitol police not warned of the pending protest or provided adequate manpower?
Why is video being withheld from the public and even the defense team for the arrested?
Why were American citizens arrested and held without charges or legal representation for days, violating their basic civil rights under the constitution?
Who is Ray Epps and why wasn't he arrested? Why was he allowed to change his story?
Were their FBI/DOJ or other government assets involved in the protest?
There were known Antifa terrorists committing some of the most significant violence. Why were they not arrested or even identified as Antifa by the "inquiry"?

You don't have to watch or be influenced by any video. Just consider the facts. Thousands of people, wrongly accused of being violent white supremists, were involved in the protest, hundreds entered the capitol. Yet this "violent insurrection" resulted in minor injuries to a couple cops and no deaths other than an unarmed female protester murdered by capitol police. So was this the "worst attack since 911", or an unfortunate but minor happening blown out of proportion for political gain, and potentially a false flag event initiated by our own goverment.

Ask yourself another question. Would the government that lied about the origin of covid lie about this event too?

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That's why Tucker's segment on this is stupid. Showing innocuous things from that day does not change the other bad things that happened.

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The video points out that a lot of the "bad things" clearly never happened. Like the cop you probably still think was murdered by rioters. NEVER HAPPENED. Tucker's release of footage shows the cop inside the capitol ushering people thru. The BIG LIE was not Trump's election fraud allegation, it was the Left and the J6 committee.

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It does show the absolute truth about one thing for sure: the police were very accommodating to the main protester and were more like tour guides of the Capitol for him. Not afraid, not threatened, not forceful, not barring the way to anything, but inviting. This fact alone raises a lot of questions about the Jan 6 committee narrative.

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And that's why the politicians and media who tried to make this look like another Benghazi or 9/11 are so enraged. They lied to create the narrative...and the leaked video disproves that narrative.

Security let the protesters and sight-seeing tourists in...then things escalated. It wasn't a coordinated and planned attack. The summer 2020 violent riots were more coordinated and planned than Jan 6 was.

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they let SOME protesters in. They weren't sight-seeing tourists, they were protesters who didn't get violent. And most of them barged through the barriers and broke in. and the security was vastly outnumbered and probably undertrained and had no idea how to handle a situation like that, and thought the best course of action was path of least resistance.

no amount of pointing out how some people were peaceful is going to rid the stench of the bad things that happened on that day, much like the 2020 riots.

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But yet the 2020 riots are pretty much ignored by DC...no significant arrests...no investigations...no committees on primetime television. And we're told by people like our current VP that Jan 6 belongs in the same breath as 9/11 and Pearl Harbor...they treat it like a holiday now. It wasn't coordinated, it was a protest that got out of hand. The House leadership was asked to provide additional security on Jan 6...and refused.

Just another example of people not trusting elected leaders and the media.

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It feels like that's all this is really about, the 2020 riots. It always comes back to that. Any discussion of 1/6 and it being bad is met with "but what about BLM." So really, Tucker's segment was just a f*** you segment.

Of course it's mind-numbingly stupid to compare 1/6 to 9/11. But I'm not going to let talking heads like Tucker, Trump, and people who support them to continue to try to normalize 1/6 and act like it wasn't a big deal. It was a big deal and was a bad day for America, and no amount of showing nice, nonviolent protesters is going to change that.

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No, it's about the Democrats and media lying about the 1/6 riot being a terrorist attack that belongs in the same breath as Pearl Harbor and 9/11. Pure lies. That's what Tucker's segment was more about. And that's why the people who believed the lies are so enraged over one guy showing some video footage. Why should it matter?

I agree, it's mind-numbingly stupid for elected officials like Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer to compare 1/6 to an actual attack on the U.S....but people buy it simply because they see leaders spreading the lies.

The primetime TV hearings and all the 1/6 hyperbole was just the Democrats and media giving Trump the middle finger. Nothing more. There was no effort to pursue truth...it's just political theater.

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One lesson of Jan 6 is this: Trump’s lies, spread on TV & social media, provoked a violent attack on our Capitol. No responsible adult, and especially no American pledged to our Constitution, should deny what happened or repeat the same reckless lies. pic.twitter.com/MReMysC534

— Liz Cheney (@Liz_Cheney) March 7, 2023

Can someone explain how Tucker showing cherry picked clips without violence is any different than what Conservatives accused Liberals of doing with the BLM protests? Conservatives ridiculed the phrase "mostly peaceful" protests endlessly all to turn around and do the same thing with Jan 6th. Do they think we didn't see the footage of them fighting Capitol Police. Hitting them with weapons? Multiple dead?

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He posted the same ones you brain washed idiots have been whacking off to for the last two years as well.

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Zero justification? You watch the same video I did?

She is a textbook "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" example.

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Whatever else the video shows, Ashli was a small, unarmed female. In no police manual does she deserve to have lethal forced used on her without even trying to taze or otherwise subdue.

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Zero justification? You watch the same video I did?

She is a textbook "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" example.

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I did. And no, there was no justification for the officer to pull his weapon and fire through a glass door into a crowd of people in the manner than he did.

In any other situation, had a civilian done the exact same thing - they would be brought up on murder charges.

But hey, keep towing that party line! I'm sure your overlords will reward you with the gristle off of a chicken bone after they have eaten the meat for your loyalty.

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This right here. In fact, several officers have faced murder charges for shooting someone actively resisting arrest or fighting with the officer.

3 pages of troll feeding. Just go back and flag the OP and hopefully they can spend some time reflecting on life under the bridge.

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3 pages of troll feeding. Just go back and flag the OP and hopefully they can spend some time reflecting on life under the bridge.

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Exactly

Why Op still posts idiocy, only to get curbstomped by facts, is beyond me.

Rioting against institutions of power.

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Cmon Tucker is clearly trying to downplay what happened on Jan 6th. Just because every second wasn't mass chaos and violence doesn't prove much.

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No, he he presenting video evidence that contradicts the bull**** spewed by the Democratic Party leadership.

You are conflating the reactions of people into accusing them of condoning the illegal acts that some people did during the Jan 6th events.

Yes, those that broke the law should be held accountable for their crimes not some made up bull**** about an insurrection led by the comedic relief of a buffoon dressed in a stupid Buffalo hat.

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It does show the absolute truth about one thing for sure: the police were very accommodating to the main protester and were more like tour guides of the Capitol for him. Not afraid, not threatened, not forceful, not barring the way to anything, but inviting. This fact alone raises a lot of questions about the Jan 6 committee narrative.

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And that's why the politicians and media who tried to make this look like another Benghazi or 9/11 are so enraged. They lied to create the narrative...and the leaked video disproves that narrative.

Security let the protesters and sight-seeing tourists in...then things escalated. It wasn't a coordinated and planned attack. The summer 2020 violent riots were more coordinated and planned than Jan 6 was.

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they let SOME protesters in. They weren't sight-seeing tourists, they were protesters who didn't get violent. And most of them barged through the barriers and broke in. and the security was vastly outnumbered and probably undertrained and had no idea how to handle a situation like that, and thought the best course of action was path of least resistance.

no amount of pointing out how some people were peaceful is going to rid the stench of the bad things that happened on that day, much like the 2020 riots.

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But yet the 2020 riots are pretty much ignored by DC...no significant arrests...no investigations...no committees on primetime television. And we're told by people like our current VP that Jan 6 belongs in the same breath as 9/11 and Pearl Harbor...they treat it like a holiday now. It wasn't coordinated, it was a protest that got out of hand. The House leadership was asked to provide additional security on Jan 6...and refused.

Just another example of people not trusting elected leaders and the media.

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It feels like that's all this is really about, the 2020 riots. It always comes back to that. Any discussion of 1/6 and it being bad is met with "but what about BLM." So really, Tucker's segment was just a f*** you segment.

Of course it's mind-numbingly stupid to compare 1/6 to 9/11. But I'm not going to let talking heads like Tucker, Trump, and people who support them to continue to try to normalize 1/6 and act like it wasn't a big deal. It was a big deal and was a bad day for America, and no amount of showing nice, nonviolent protesters is going to change that.

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Wasn't nearly as bad a day for America as Jan 20, 2021.

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One lesson of Jan 6 is this: Trump’s lies, spread on TV & social media, provoked a violent attack on our Capitol. No responsible adult, and especially no American pledged to our Constitution, should deny what happened or repeat the same reckless lies. pic.twitter.com/MReMysC534

— Liz Cheney (@Liz_Cheney) March 7, 2023

Can someone explain how Tucker showing cherry picked clips without violence is any different than what Conservatives accused Liberals of doing with the BLM protests? Conservatives ridiculed the phrase "mostly peaceful" protests endlessly all to turn around and do the same thing with Jan 6th. Do they think we didn't see the footage of them fighting Capitol Police. Hitting them with weapons? Multiple dead?

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Uh, there weren't "multiple dead" on Jan 6, just one protestor who was shot by police.

There were MULTIPLE riots in the summer of 2020 that were violent and led to looting, multiple injuries (50+ secret service agents injured in front of White House), deaths (people gunned down during looting)...many of which was caught on camera. Some of them even occurred at government buildings.

Then you had people like Rand Paul and his wife who were surrounded by rioters outside the White House after the 2020 Republican convention...a real instance of enraged people threatening elected officials.

How many 'committees' were formed to investigate those? None. How many people were arrested and held for months? Did any politicians compare those riots to terrorist attacks? Were they portrayed as people trying to overthrow the government? Nope.

The reaction and outrage over the 2020 riots was nothing compared to the politicizing and outrage over Jan 6. The 2020 riots were brushed off while Jan 6 was turned into a tribunal.

Jan 6 was a protest that turned into a riot...but was never a deadly insurrection to overthrow the government as the media and certain politicians keep portraying it. That was Tucker's point. The footage clearly shows it wasn't a planned attack. The police ushered many of those people in as they would protestors.

There is a difference in people acting stupid with looting/trespassing and brushing with security...compared to an actual deadly coordinated terrorist attack to bring down the government.

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Which narrative seems more likely, the one we've seen for a couple years in countless videos and extensive coverage or the clips Tucker found? Use your critical thinking, I know it means you may have to acknowledge Tucker is wrong and this was more than nothing (something even McCarthy has to acknowledge given his previous commentary on the day).

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Not curious at all why we've never seen the Q shaman clips with officers opening doors for him.

Not curious at all about the supposedly beat to death officer on video perfectly alive and healthy waving people in.

Not curious at all about Ray Epps being untouchable for some reason.

Not curious at all why the FBI won't answer how many agent provocateurs they had planted that day.

Not curious at all why Pelosi ignored requests for more security.

wHy CaNt YoU gUyZ uSe cRiTiCaL tHiNkInG??!???

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But Tucker wasn't doing it to "show all sides."

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Now do all the rest of the MSM and the Jan 6 committee.

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Which narrative seems more likely, the one we've seen for a couple years in countless videos and extensive coverage or the clips Tucker found? Use your critical thinking, I know it means you may have to acknowledge Tucker is wrong and this was more than nothing (something even McCarthy has to acknowledge given his previous commentary on the day).

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Not curious at all why we've never seen the Q shaman clips with officers opening doors for him.

Not curious at all about the supposedly beat to death officer on video perfectly alive and healthy waving people in.

Not curious at all about Ray Epps being untouchable for some reason.

Not curious at all why the FBI won't answer how many agent provocateurs they had planted that day.

Not curious at all why Pelosi ignored requests for more security.

wHy CaNt YoU gUyZ uSe cRiTiCaL tHiNkInG??!???

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This seems pertinent:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10391647/FBI-executive-assistant-director-stays-mum-Cruz-asks-agents-participated-January-6-riot.html

If the answer was 'no', that seems easy enough.

The intransigence of both sides here is absurd.

It is 100% true that there were a large number of protestors who were violent and bent on destruction.

It is also 100% true that there were many more protestors who were little more than peaceful, well-behaved gawkers.

The video of the police walking around with Chansley is not remotely evidence that he was "on a guided tour." The police were outnumbered by what? 10 to1? The estimates I've seen have the number of police inside the building at 195 and the number of protestors in the Capitol at over 2,000. They damn sure knew they couldn't physically escalate things to remove protestors forcibly without likely being overrun and causing an even larger outbreak of violence so they shadowed him to make sure he didn't get too far out of line. So he wasn't being violent but he wasn't just being shown around like a Congressional tourist.

And while Trump didn't cross the line and call for violence or anything like that, he damn sure stirred the pot. He ran a ****ty campaign vs. Sleepy Joe and the media (you want real collusion, the virtual hand-in-glove relationship between the Dems, MSM, and social media is the real threat to our republic) but the way he handled covid and the complete inability to not have diarrhea of the mouth or fingers via Twitter sunk his candidacy. Not actual fraudulent votes as every damn bit of evidence has shown. Hell, the majority of his advisors told him the same thing. There's no bureaucracy or political machine in this country capable of pulling off such a large-scale fraud. The simple truth is Trump fcked up and he couldn't handle the fact that he's responsible for people voting against him and instead figured a benign vegetable would be the lesser of two evils.

I personally didn't but his behavior post-election and his continual whining, petty, vindictiveness and how he's effectively caused major losses in 2018, 2020, and 2022 should relegate him to the dust-bin of history.

Hell, he's somehow manage to convince millions of people that actual conservative policies and good governance makes one a RINO. Trump only cares about Trump, the fact we got some good justices on SCOTUS and lower courts is the only good thing he accomplished and that's because he listened to actual conservatives from the Federalist Society. The rest of his policies are largely undone by the proverbial "pen and a phone" because for all his claims about making deals he couldn't actually do it.

Time to move past him and his acolytes.

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The police were outnumbered by what? 10 to1?

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So they put two of them to tail the Shaman, that makes sense?

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The video of the police walking around with Chansley is not remotely evidence that he was "on a guided tour." The police were outnumbered by what? 10 to1?

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The cops outnumbered Chansley 8 to 1 at one point. This was inside the capitol when everything immediately calmed down and people started taking selfies and nonchalantly walking around. The cops were not remotely afraid. You're being dishonest.

Also, this isn't about Donald F'ing Trump or his "acolytes". It is about *********despicable lies told by everyone on the Left with a microphone.

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The intransigence of both sides here is absurd.

It is 100% true that there were a large number of protestors who were violent and bent on destruction.

It is also 100% true that there were many more protestors who were little more than peaceful, well-behaved gawkers.

The video of the police walking around with Chansley is not remotely evidence that he was "on a guided tour." The police were outnumbered by what? 10 to1? The estimates I've seen have the number of police inside the building at 195 and the number of protestors in the Capitol at over 2,000. They damn sure knew they couldn't physically escalate things to remove protestors forcibly without likely being overrun and causing an even larger outbreak of violence so they shadowed him to make sure he didn't get too far out of line. So he wasn't being violent but he wasn't just being shown around like a Congressional tourist.

And while Trump didn't cross the line and call for violence or anything like that, he damn sure stirred the pot. He ran a ****ty campaign vs. Sleepy Joe and the media (you want real collusion, the virtual hand-in-glove relationship between the Dems, MSM, and social media is the real threat to our republic) but the way he handled covid and the complete inability to not have diarrhea of the mouth or fingers via Twitter sunk his candidacy. Not actual fraudulent votes as every damn bit of evidence has shown. Hell, the majority of his advisors told him the same thing. There's no bureaucracy or political machine in this country capable of pulling off such a large-scale fraud. The simple truth is Trump fcked up and he couldn't handle the fact that he's responsible for people voting against him and instead figured a benign vegetable would be the lesser of two evils.

I personally didn't but his behavior post-election and his continual whining, petty, vindictiveness and how he's effectively caused major losses in 2018, 2020, and 2022 should relegate him to the dust-bin of history.

Hell, he's somehow manage to convince millions of people that actual conservative policies and good governance makes one a RINO. Trump only cares about Trump, the fact we got some good justices on SCOTUS and lower courts is the only good thing he accomplished and that's because he listened to actual conservatives from the Federalist Society. The rest of his policies are largely undone by the proverbial "pen and a phone" because for all his claims about making deals he couldn't actually do it.

Time to move past him and his acolytes.

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Why were they walking Chansley around at all, much less just him?

Trump's campaign? He was out in front of huge crowds while sleepy Joe was in the basement. Don't forget the big hand the FBI gave Xiden by sitting on the Hunter laptop, along with the 'intelligence community' colluding with social media and legacy media to claim it wasn't real.

Trump was robbed even before we get to ballot harvesting, state voting laws being unConstitutionally changed, or vote fraud questions.

I will take Trump's economy over pretty much anyone else's. Everyone was benefitting from the prosperity. I couldn't care one whit about his personality. His policies had the world in a far better place than it is today.

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It does show the absolute truth about one thing for sure: the police were very accommodating to the main protester and were more like tour guides of the Capitol for him. Not afraid, not threatened, not forceful, not barring the way to anything, but inviting. This fact alone raises a lot of questions about the Jan 6 committee narrative.

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And that's why the politicians and media who tried to make this look like another Benghazi or 9/11 are so enraged. They lied to create the narrative...and the leaked video disproves that narrative.

Security let the protesters and sight-seeing tourists in...then things escalated. It wasn't a coordinated and planned attack. The summer 2020 violent riots were more coordinated and planned than Jan 6 was.

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they let SOME protesters in. They weren't sight-seeing tourists, they were protesters who didn't get violent. And most of them barged through the barriers and broke in. and the security was vastly outnumbered and probably undertrained and had no idea how to handle a situation like that, and thought the best course of action was path of least resistance.

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Good. Grief.

In your hypothetical you just posted, it seems like it would have been a good idea for someone like maybe...I don't know...Nancy Pelosi...to NOT ignore requests for additional security that day? Just spitballing here.

Things that (*SHOULD*) make you go hmmmmm...

Some of you really need to either educate yourselves on the entire situation or sit out the discussion. Good grief.