Russia/Ukraine from Another Perspective (Relaunch Part Deux)

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J. Walter Weatherman said:

Teslag said:

Deflect all you want. You popped off because you forgot about the Moskva. Then jumped to a conclusion that we were just assuming it was the flagship. Then jumped to assuming it was a claim by western media. Then tried some weird whataboutism schtick when you were shown even the Russians claim it as the flagship.




My favorite part is PCG painting himself into a corner where the two options are:

1. Russian media are liars.

2. PCG is wrong and Ukraine did sink the Russian flagship.

My assumption is that he knows both are correct but is either incapable of processing anything negative happening to Russia, or is just bored and trolling.


And you're point is that it can't be option 1, because you believe Russian sources all of a sudden. Glad we could clear this up.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Teslag said:

Deflect all you want. You popped off because you forgot about the Moskva. Then jumped to a conclusion that we were just assuming it was the flagship. Then jumped to assuming it was a claim by western media. Then tried some weird whataboutism schtick when you were shown even the Russians claim it as the flagship.




My favorite part is PCG painting himself into a corner where the two options are:

1. Russian media are liars.

2. PCG is wrong and Ukraine did sink the Russian flagship.

My assumption is that he knows both are correct but is either incapable of processing anything negative happening to Russia, or is just bored and trolling.


And you're point is that it can't be option 1, because you believe Russian sources all of a sudden. Glad we could clear this up.


Where did I say this?
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Teslag said:

Deflect all you want. You popped off because you forgot about the Moskva. Then jumped to a conclusion that we were just assuming it was the flagship. Then jumped to assuming it was a claim by western media. Then tried some weird whataboutism schtick when you were shown even the Russians claim it as the flagship.




My favorite part is PCG painting himself into a corner where the two options are:

1. Russian media are liars.

2. PCG is wrong and Ukraine did sink the Russian flagship.

My assumption is that he knows both are correct but is either incapable of processing anything negative happening to Russia, or is just bored and trolling.


And you're point is that it can't be option 1, because you believe Russian sources all of a sudden. Glad we could clear this up.


Where did I say this?


When you used Russian media as your citation.

There's a one step process to making ukuleles admit they believe Russia : 1) deny something Russia said that they like.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Teslag said:

Deflect all you want. You popped off because you forgot about the Moskva. Then jumped to a conclusion that we were just assuming it was the flagship. Then jumped to assuming it was a claim by western media. Then tried some weird whataboutism schtick when you were shown even the Russians claim it as the flagship.




My favorite part is PCG painting himself into a corner where the two options are:

1. Russian media are liars.

2. PCG is wrong and Ukraine did sink the Russian flagship.

My assumption is that he knows both are correct but is either incapable of processing anything negative happening to Russia, or is just bored and trolling.


And you're point is that it can't be option 1, because you believe Russian sources all of a sudden. Glad we could clear this up.


Where did I say this?


When you used Russian media as your citation.

There's a one step process to making ukuleles admit they believe Russia : 1) deny something Russia said that they like.


No, he believes western sources. The hope was that you would believe Russian sources but the plane crash must have really ****ed with your head.
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chickencoupe16 said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Teslag said:

Deflect all you want. You popped off because you forgot about the Moskva. Then jumped to a conclusion that we were just assuming it was the flagship. Then jumped to assuming it was a claim by western media. Then tried some weird whataboutism schtick when you were shown even the Russians claim it as the flagship.




My favorite part is PCG painting himself into a corner where the two options are:

1. Russian media are liars.

2. PCG is wrong and Ukraine did sink the Russian flagship.

My assumption is that he knows both are correct but is either incapable of processing anything negative happening to Russia, or is just bored and trolling.


And you're point is that it can't be option 1, because you believe Russian sources all of a sudden. Glad we could clear this up.


Where did I say this?


When you used Russian media as your citation.

There's a one step process to making ukuleles admit they believe Russia : 1) deny something Russia said that they like.


No, he believes western sources. The hope was that you would believe Russian sources but the plane crash must have really ****ed with your head.


Oh, he believes western media only? Is that why he directly linked Russian state media? Now you're just coping.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Teslag said:

Deflect all you want. You popped off because you forgot about the Moskva. Then jumped to a conclusion that we were just assuming it was the flagship. Then jumped to assuming it was a claim by western media. Then tried some weird whataboutism schtick when you were shown even the Russians claim it as the flagship.




My favorite part is PCG painting himself into a corner where the two options are:

1. Russian media are liars.

2. PCG is wrong and Ukraine did sink the Russian flagship.

My assumption is that he knows both are correct but is either incapable of processing anything negative happening to Russia, or is just bored and trolling.


And you're point is that it can't be option 1, because you believe Russian sources all of a sudden. Glad we could clear this up.


Where did I say this?


When you used Russian media as your citation.

There's a one step process to making ukuleles admit they believe Russia : 1) deny something Russia said that they like.


I believed the dozens of other articles pointing out that it was the flagship of their Black Sea fleet. It just happened to be reinforced by Russia themselves, who you thankfully are finally admitting are liars.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Teslag said:

Deflect all you want. You popped off because you forgot about the Moskva. Then jumped to a conclusion that we were just assuming it was the flagship. Then jumped to assuming it was a claim by western media. Then tried some weird whataboutism schtick when you were shown even the Russians claim it as the flagship.




My favorite part is PCG painting himself into a corner where the two options are:

1. Russian media are liars.

2. PCG is wrong and Ukraine did sink the Russian flagship.

My assumption is that he knows both are correct but is either incapable of processing anything negative happening to Russia, or is just bored and trolling.


And you're point is that it can't be option 1, because you believe Russian sources all of a sudden. Glad we could clear this up.


Where did I say this?


When you used Russian media as your citation.

There's a one step process to making ukuleles admit they believe Russia : 1) deny something Russia said that they like.


I believed the dozens of other articles pointing out that it was the flagship of their Black Sea fleet. It just happened to be reinforced by Russia themselves, who you thankfully are finally admitting are liars.


"Reinforced" is cope. Russia is the source, Uke repeated it because it makes Uke feel good, you believe it for the same. Its okay to admit you believe Russia, the source.
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We believe the obvious fact that it was the flagship. We don't believe their lies about it sinking because of an ammunition mishap or whatever. Go ahead and post some more strawmen though, you're doing great.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

chickencoupe16 said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Teslag said:

Deflect all you want. You popped off because you forgot about the Moskva. Then jumped to a conclusion that we were just assuming it was the flagship. Then jumped to assuming it was a claim by western media. Then tried some weird whataboutism schtick when you were shown even the Russians claim it as the flagship.




My favorite part is PCG painting himself into a corner where the two options are:

1. Russian media are liars.

2. PCG is wrong and Ukraine did sink the Russian flagship.

My assumption is that he knows both are correct but is either incapable of processing anything negative happening to Russia, or is just bored and trolling.


And you're point is that it can't be option 1, because you believe Russian sources all of a sudden. Glad we could clear this up.


Where did I say this?


When you used Russian media as your citation.

There's a one step process to making ukuleles admit they believe Russia : 1) deny something Russia said that they like.


No, he believes western sources. The hope was that you would believe Russian sources but the plane crash must have really ****ed with your head.


Oh, he believes western media only? Is that why he directly linked Russian state media? Now you're just coping.

I originally linked both western AND russian sources because I knew you would do exactly this.
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Teslag said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

chickencoupe16 said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Teslag said:

Deflect all you want. You popped off because you forgot about the Moskva. Then jumped to a conclusion that we were just assuming it was the flagship. Then jumped to assuming it was a claim by western media. Then tried some weird whataboutism schtick when you were shown even the Russians claim it as the flagship.




My favorite part is PCG painting himself into a corner where the two options are:

1. Russian media are liars.

2. PCG is wrong and Ukraine did sink the Russian flagship.

My assumption is that he knows both are correct but is either incapable of processing anything negative happening to Russia, or is just bored and trolling.


And you're point is that it can't be option 1, because you believe Russian sources all of a sudden. Glad we could clear this up.


Where did I say this?


When you used Russian media as your citation.

There's a one step process to making ukuleles admit they believe Russia : 1) deny something Russia said that they like.


No, he believes western sources. The hope was that you would believe Russian sources but the plane crash must have really ****ed with your head.


Oh, he believes western media only? Is that why he directly linked Russian state media? Now you're just coping.

I originally linked both western AND russian sources because I knew you would do exactly this.


Western outlets citing Russia is still a Russian source. It's okay to admit you believe Russia when its convenient for Uke.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

chickencoupe16 said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Teslag said:

Deflect all you want. You popped off because you forgot about the Moskva. Then jumped to a conclusion that we were just assuming it was the flagship. Then jumped to assuming it was a claim by western media. Then tried some weird whataboutism schtick when you were shown even the Russians claim it as the flagship.




My favorite part is PCG painting himself into a corner where the two options are:

1. Russian media are liars.

2. PCG is wrong and Ukraine did sink the Russian flagship.

My assumption is that he knows both are correct but is either incapable of processing anything negative happening to Russia, or is just bored and trolling.


And you're point is that it can't be option 1, because you believe Russian sources all of a sudden. Glad we could clear this up.


Where did I say this?


When you used Russian media as your citation.

There's a one step process to making ukuleles admit they believe Russia : 1) deny something Russia said that they like.


No, he believes western sources. The hope was that you would believe Russian sources but the plane crash must have really ****ed with your head.


Oh, he believes western media only? Is that why he directly linked Russian state media? Now you're just coping.

I originally linked both western AND russian sources because I knew you would do exactly this.


Western outlets citing Russia is still a Russian source. It's okay to admit you believe Russia when its convenient for Uke.


When they are basic obvious facts it's ok to admit that Russia was finally being truthful for once and that you're wrong. If Russia said the sky was blue it would also be ok to admit that they were being truthful. Again, just take the L. It's embarrassing at this point.
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GAC06 said:

We believe the obvious fact that it was the flagship. We don't believe their lies about it sinking because of an ammunition mishap or whatever. Go ahead and post some more strawmen though, you're doing great.


Yes I understand. Believe Russia when convenient for Uke is your litmus test. Forgive me if I find it unserious.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

chickencoupe16 said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Teslag said:

Deflect all you want. You popped off because you forgot about the Moskva. Then jumped to a conclusion that we were just assuming it was the flagship. Then jumped to assuming it was a claim by western media. Then tried some weird whataboutism schtick when you were shown even the Russians claim it as the flagship.




My favorite part is PCG painting himself into a corner where the two options are:

1. Russian media are liars.

2. PCG is wrong and Ukraine did sink the Russian flagship.

My assumption is that he knows both are correct but is either incapable of processing anything negative happening to Russia, or is just bored and trolling.


And you're point is that it can't be option 1, because you believe Russian sources all of a sudden. Glad we could clear this up.


Where did I say this?


When you used Russian media as your citation.

There's a one step process to making ukuleles admit they believe Russia : 1) deny something Russia said that they like.


No, he believes western sources. The hope was that you would believe Russian sources but the plane crash must have really ****ed with your head.


Oh, he believes western media only? Is that why he directly linked Russian state media? Now you're just coping.

I originally linked both western AND russian sources because I knew you would do exactly this.


Western outlets citing Russia is still a Russian source. It's okay to admit you believe Russia when its convenient for Uke.


When they are basic obvious facts it's ok to admit that Russia was finally being truthful for once and that you're wrong. If Russia said the sky was blue it would also be ok to admit that they were being truthful. Again, just take the L. It's embarrassing at this point.


That would be true if Uke's could look objectively and find facts that are inconvenient for Uke to be still be "basic and obvious". But that isn't how propagandists operate, and we've already established Uke is.
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Did Ukraine sink the Black Sea Feet Flagship? Yes or no.
PlaneCrashGuy
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Teslag said:

Did Ukraine sink the Black Sea Feet Flagship? Yes or no.


Did you link to Russian state sponsored media? The answers are the same.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

Did Ukraine sink the Black Sea Feet Flagship? Yes or no.


Did you link to Russian state sponsored media? The answers are the same.


So, yes you agree that Ukraine sank the Black Sea Fleet Flagship? Glad we finally got there but now I have no idea what you've been arguing about all day.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

Did Ukraine sink the Black Sea Feet Flagship? Yes or no.


Did you link to Russian state sponsored media? The answers are the same.


So, yes you agree that Ukraine sank the Black Sea Fleet Flagship? Glad we finally got there but now I have no idea what you've been arguing about all day.


I never denied that. I just asked you guys to confirm you were okay with citing Russia when it helps Uke. Go look again. Absolute masterclass if I do say so myself.
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

Did Ukraine sink the Black Sea Feet Flagship? Yes or no.


Did you link to Russian state sponsored media? The answers are the same.


So, yes you agree that Ukraine sank the Black Sea Fleet Flagship? Glad we finally got there but now I have no idea what you've been arguing about all day.

At this point I think his schtick is to just impersonate a contestant from SNL Jeopardy.
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Teslag said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

Did Ukraine sink the Black Sea Feet Flagship? Yes or no.


Did you link to Russian state sponsored media? The answers are the same.


So, yes you agree that Ukraine sank the Black Sea Fleet Flagship? Glad we finally got there but now I have no idea what you've been arguing about all day.

At this point I think his schtick is to just impersonate a contestant from SNL Jeopardy.


But now you're the guy who linked directly to Russian state media propaganda.
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Rob Lee accidentally typing out a truth, again.

Wut?





This is not simply a case of 'I don't like/respect Biden' but one of "we cannot risk a further war with this clown world treasonous ****tard even nominally in charge." It's akin to letting Sarkisian call the offense for the Aggies in the game this year in November (not to say he is a pedophile).
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How the Biden proxy war in Ukraine came about:



Heavy on Victoria Nuland, fyi.
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Just one more indicia of the status of this proxy war.







Forever war!
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Wow. Here we are in February and Russia is STILL trying to take an abandoned village after 4 plus months. Good lord. And this after we were told Ukraine would fall in "weeks"…
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Teslag said:

Wow. Here we are in February and Russia is STILL trying to take an abandoned village after 4 plus months. Good lord. And this after we were told Ukraine would fall in "weeks"…


"Abandoned" snark.
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Teslag said:

Wow. Here we are in February and Russia is STILL trying to take an abandoned village after 4 plus months. Good lord. And this after we were told Ukraine would fall in "weeks"…


Sounds like Uke is satisfied with the results and will not be making leadership changes. But wait.
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You'd think with 200 T-90's per month the Russians would have easily taken it by now. Especially with a vastly stronger military they had when they took Kharkiv and Kherson in 2022.

They still hold those cities right? Being stronger and all?
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

Wow. Here we are in February and Russia is STILL trying to take an abandoned village after 4 plus months. Good lord. And this after we were told Ukraine would fall in "weeks"…


Sounds like Uke is satisfied with the results and will not be making leadership changes. But wait.
true.

Their best units there too (UFA). I wonder if they are saving the abrams for the defense of Kiev or other large cities?
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I guess this guy never got the message the town was abandoned.
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nortex97 said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

Wow. Here we are in February and Russia is STILL trying to take an abandoned village after 4 plus months. Good lord. And this after we were told Ukraine would fall in "weeks"…


Sounds like Uke is satisfied with the results and will not be making leadership changes. But wait.
true.

Their best units there too (UFA). I wonder if they are saving the abrams for the defense of Kiev or other large cities?


Lol. Defense of Kiev? 4 months to get to the outskirts of Adviika and you're talking Kiev?
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So the Ukes take out Russian refineries, a missile ship, and a several hundred million dollar high value aircraft and the Russians thump their bird chests over…



Checks notes



A single Canuck mercenary?
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Teslag said:

So the Ukes take out Russian refineries, a missile ship, and a several hundred million dollar high value aircraft and the Russians thump their bird chests over…



Checks notes



A single Canuck mercenary?


I don't see anyone celebrating his death. That is something unique to Ukes. The question was what was this guy doing there? You said the town was abandoned. Why didn't he abandon it?
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I think it's quite clear abandoned is in reference to the populace.
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Teslag said:

I think it's quite clear abandoned is in reference to the populace.


Why would the populace abandon the town? Haven't you told them how inept the Russians are? You should let them know.
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