Actions so loud I lied about what you said

Watching you all admit Uke never made any noteworthy gains is enough for me.

Ukraine made significant gains since Russia's unprovoked invasion. Not sure what you consider "noteworthy". Russia hasn't accomplished much noteworthy progress since 2022.

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Who claimed the gains were "noteworthy"?

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GAC did, in this thread.

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Ukraine made significant gains since Russia's unprovoked invasion. Not sure what you consider "noteworthy". Russia hasn't accomplished much noteworthy progress since 2022.

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The Biden proxy war in Ukraine was entirely dependent on provoking Russia to invade/attack Ukraine, with his bellicose attitude and statements in December 2021, which the sane European allies tried to dial down/back from. I'm not saying the invasion was justified, but it's inarguable that the Russians have an argument, which they have made repeatedly over time, that the actions pre-dating the invasion justified it from their perspective.

Similarly, the disaster that is the Middle East today involves the Biden administration propping up/supporting Iran such that a violent war with Israel from their captive proxies became inevitable as well. Biden administration destabilized the Middle East (deliberately):

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The report examines "the geopolitics that led to October 7, what happened on October 7, and a phase-by-phase analysis of Israel's military response," in part through the lens of the historic pact between Israel and its Sunni Arab neighbors. It succeeds in synthesizing a wealth of critical information in a reference useful to all, from lawmakers to laymen.

Logically, and in my view correctly, it begins by placing the Hamas massacre in its proper context:

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that this was an Iran-backed intifada-in-a-day, perpetrated by a genocidal jihadist group supported by three-quarters of Palestinian Arabs from Gaza and the West Bank to the Palestinian Authority and staged from land that Israel had ceded them.

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These points have been lost as the Biden administration presses for "peace" after the fighting is over, a goal somehow to be achieved with a Hamas-lite-controlled Palestinian state consisting of a populace overwhelmingly desirous of war against Israel.

The report homes in on how oil revenue is the lifeblood of the Iranian mullahcracy and indicates that unenforced oil sanctions on Iran in recent years have been pivotal to refilling the mullahcracy's coffers. This, in turn, has helped the regime finance its proxy Hamas' operations, culminating in the mass murder, mutilation, rape, and hostage-taking of Oct. 7.

This speaks in part to the means for Hamas' attack. But what of the motive?

The report emphasizes that burgeoning relations between Israel, Egypt, and several Gulf States lubricated in part by the Jewish state's growing natural gas industry and increasing momentum toward Israel-Saudi normalization was a major driver of the Hamas attack.

Another was that Iran was "emboldened" by the September 2023 prisoner swap with the United States, including the unfreezing of $6 billion for Tehran.

Implicit in these points is the Biden administration's culpability in Hamas' attack.
The Biden White House has sought to upend the Trump administration's Middle East policy that had fostered the warming Israeli-Arab relations codified in the Abraham Accords; imperiled Iran's mullahcracy through a maximum pressure campaign of which the Abraham Accords were one part, and overwhelming force, prudently applied, was another; and stood with the Jewish state against hostile and recalcitrant Palestinian Arab forces. The Trump administration rejected the idea that the conflict between the two sides was the key regional irritant, and that coddling the Palestinians while cudgeling the Israelis would produce peace.

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As I've asserted throughout this conflict, the Biden proxy wars are driven by a goal to spike inflation and cause America's weakening, as is the case with his 'border' policies. The term 'proxy war' is a short hand reference to the proximate cause, which in Ukraine was the deliberate actions/words of the Biden administration pushing Ukraine into an expedited path into Nato and continued attacks on Russian population groups in Ukraine during late 2021-early 2022.

Clearly, Joe Biden is a traitor and senile both, the real question to my mind is whose interests is his administration acting on behalf of, at this point?

Hungary still planning to veto EU aid for Ukraine for 2024. Biden-Harris (team Democrat) pledges to close 60 percent of US electricity production.

⚡️Netanyahu: We are preparing for the possibility of war with the Palestinian Authority

— War Monitor (@WarMonitors) December 12, 2023

There's absolutely no excuse to be six months behind on these things. pic.twitter.com/lvKNSzDmqv

— Big Serge ☦️🇺🇸🇷🇺 (@witte_sergei) December 11, 2023

Battle for Avdeevka: Russian Armed Forces advance on the southern outskirts
Latest @rybar_force report:

🔻The Russian Armed Forces have commenced the next stage of their operation in Avdeevka: According to the General Staff of the AFU, this involved the most extensive… pic.twitter.com/Qg6IOp8qUc

— -- GEROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 -- (@GeromanAT) December 12, 2023

Victoria Nuland, as always, a liar. She still works in a key post in the State Department, fyi.

According to Nuland, she didn't hand out cookies during the Maidan thing, but sandwiches. Sure looks like cookies to me.

Little did the world know that the price paid for those cookies would be hundreds of thousands of lives and a wrecked country, though I bet Nuland had a… pic.twitter.com/Wh7e9QzR38

— Chebureki Man (@CheburekiMan) December 12, 2023

There is still some crawfishing on whether or not Ukraine did anything noteworthy, so I ask: What was Ukraines most noteworthy conquest in the counter offensive?

Biden to blame GOP for Russia's victory?

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Now, I need to get to Ukraine funding, which is dead for now.

Several Republican Senators tell me they have become increasingly convinced over several months that Joe Biden wants to kill the funding. This explains his very slow roll to provide Ukraine the deliverables he previously promised them. Biden has repeatedly promised munitions and other supplies to Ukraine and then never actually sent them, or slow rolled it.

At this point, the Democrats could get the Ukraine funding they want, but they will have to compromise on border security, which they have no desire to do and which Joe Biden is not willing to do. The thinking from these Senators is that Joe Biden is using President Zelensky as a prop against the GOP. Biden will blame the GOP for a lack of funding and use that lack of funding to both blame the GOP for a strategic failure in Ukraine and force Zelensky to compromise on land.

It's already increasingly talked about in foreign policy circles that Zelensky is intransigent on the need to compromise while the Germans, French, British, and Americans are more willing to see Ukraine formally give up Crimea and other eastern territories.

Saying, "Sorry, Congress won't budge so we can't supply you weapons," will force Zelensky to make decisions he has otherwise refused to make. Biden gets what he actually wants while also using the GOP as scapegoats.

This really is not rocket science except, perhaps, for a team that cannot even properly vet holiday tweets for the VP's husband. Democrats do not control the House and only have nominal control of the Senate. If you want Ukraine funding, you have to give the GOP border funding.

The press always talks about the need for the GOP to compromise. Now it is the Democrats' turn, or perhaps the Senators are right and Biden is playing politics through policy disagreement.

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Of course. And the Euro's will blame Hungary for their failure to deliver yet more ammo. Nothing is ever team WEF's fault.

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There is still some crawfishing on whether or not Ukraine did anything noteworthy, so I ask: What was Ukraines most noteworthy conquest in the counter offensive?

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Probably the push to put lines around Tokmak in anrty range and taking key areas along the dnipro (and eventually the other side in one area) . There were also many small towns and villages liberated.

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Who claimed the gains were "noteworthy"?

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You did when you wrote about them here everyday for weeks. (Months?)

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Incorrect. I said they were incremental each time. Never significant or even noteworthy.

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There is still some crawfishing on whether or not Ukraine did anything noteworthy, so I ask: What was Ukraines most noteworthy conquest in the counter offensive?

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I also have to laugh at the absurdity of this crawfish, in that noteworthy literally means: worthy of note. …which is what a post on TexAgs is. A note to the forum.

It's hysterical. There were also many delusional expectations of a breakthrough and then mad rush to the Black Sea/Crimea in the spring/summer, before the reality of the mythologized 'spring counter offensive' had to be realized on maps.

And endless breathless excitement from folks like Denis Davidov/Rob Lee about some big breakthrough by some random squad somewhere meaning some brilliant new strategy leading to a huge shift. Pure war porn dealers who frequently hawk their merchandise like Denis at the end of his videos with a somber 'Slava Ukraine' or something, after showing some blown up tanks or some such.

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Is this a Zelensky (Most) Sovereign Wealth Fund shareholder meeting? Because that is what it looks like.

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PlaneCrashGuy said:

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There is still some crawfishing on whether or not Ukraine did anything noteworthy, so I ask: What was Ukraines most noteworthy conquest in the counter offensive?

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I also have to laugh at the absurdity of this crawfish, in that noteworthy literally means: worthy of note. …which is what a post on TexAgs is. A note to the forum.

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Thank you for perfectly articulating the delicious irony.

I guess we will have to segment the supporters now that cracks are forming in their hive mind.

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Who claimed the gains were "noteworthy"?

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You did when you wrote about them here everyday for weeks. (Months?)

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Incorrect. I said they were incremental each time. Never significant or even noteworthy.

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Sure thing buddy.

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There were also many delusional expectations of a breakthrough and then mad rush to the Black Sea/Crimea in the spring/summer, before the reality of the mythologized 'spring counter offensive' had to be realized on maps.

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The complete lack of self awareness in this post is simply stunning in light of the poster's use of Simplicious the Thinker's fan fiction rants as updates for the past year.

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Who claimed the gains were "noteworthy"?

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You did when you wrote about them here everyday for weeks. (Months?)

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Incorrect. I said they were incremental each time. Never significant or even noteworthy.

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Sure thing buddy.

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Nothing I said was incorrect or wrong.

By the way - just to keep up - what's your next handle going to be now that Elon and you are misaligned on your pet cause of the year?

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Who claimed the gains were "noteworthy"?

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You did when you wrote about them here everyday for weeks. (Months?)

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Incorrect. I said they were incremental each time. Never significant or even noteworthy.

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Sure thing buddy.

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Nothing I said was incorrect or wrong.

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That might be true, but what you're missing is that we're laughing at the sudden change in the tone of your posts, and how quickly you detached from your previous delusions of Ukrainian victory.

They're just 'stacking russian worm bodies' bro. So much winning.

MarriottGoldFreeBreakfast was my suggestion.

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They're just 'stacking russian worm bodies' bro. So much winning.

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Ukraine still exist so they already won, or something

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Who claimed the gains were "noteworthy"?

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You did when you wrote about them here everyday for weeks. (Months?)

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Incorrect. I said they were incremental each time. Never significant or even noteworthy.

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Sure thing buddy.

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Nothing I said was incorrect or wrong.

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That might be true, but what you're missing is that we're laughing at the sudden change in the tone of your posts, and how quickly you detached from your previous delusions of Ukrainian victory.

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Where and what specifically did I predict for "Ukrainian victory"? I believe I've consistently said Ukrainian victory is the country continuing to simply exist have I not?

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They're just 'stacking russian worm bodies' bro. So much winning.

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Reminder, this poster only wants seriously conversation and is above snarky posts.

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Who claimed the gains were "noteworthy"?

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You did when you wrote about them here everyday for weeks. (Months?)

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Incorrect. I said they were incremental each time. Never significant or even noteworthy.

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Sure thing buddy.

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Nothing I said was incorrect or wrong.

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That might be true, but what you're missing is that we're laughing at the sudden change in the tone of your posts, and how quickly you detached from your previous delusions of Ukrainian victory.

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Where and what specifically did I predict for "Ukrainian victory"? I believe I've consistently said Ukrainian victory is the country continuing to simply exist have I not?

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Well 1st it was "Gaining ground every day"

But now its "Well I never said the ground they gained was noteworthy"

For a min it was "stacking Russian bodies"

Now it is "nothing I have posted is wrong"

Just watching you back pedal is incredible.

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Biden to blame GOP for Russia's victory?

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Now, I need to get to Ukraine funding, which is dead for now.

Several Republican Senators tell me they have become increasingly convinced over several months that Joe Biden wants to kill the funding. This explains his very slow roll to provide Ukraine the deliverables he previously promised them. Biden has repeatedly promised munitions and other supplies to Ukraine and then never actually sent them, or slow rolled it.

At this point, the Democrats could get the Ukraine funding they want, but they will have to compromise on border security, which they have no desire to do and which Joe Biden is not willing to do. The thinking from these Senators is that Joe Biden is using President Zelensky as a prop against the GOP. Biden will blame the GOP for a lack of funding and use that lack of funding to both blame the GOP for a strategic failure in Ukraine and force Zelensky to compromise on land.

It's already increasingly talked about in foreign policy circles that Zelensky is intransigent on the need to compromise while the Germans, French, British, and Americans are more willing to see Ukraine formally give up Crimea and other eastern territories.

Saying, "Sorry, Congress won't budge so we can't supply you weapons," will force Zelensky to make decisions he has otherwise refused to make. Biden gets what he actually wants while also using the GOP as scapegoats.

This really is not rocket science except, perhaps, for a team that cannot even properly vet holiday tweets for the VP's husband. Democrats do not control the House and only have nominal control of the Senate. If you want Ukraine funding, you have to give the GOP border funding.

The press always talks about the need for the GOP to compromise. Now it is the Democrats' turn, or perhaps the Senators are right and Biden is playing politics through policy disagreement.

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Of course. And the Euro's will blame Hungary for their failure to deliver yet more ammo. Nothing is ever team WEF's fault.

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Biden: poopy pants dementia patient

Also Biden: Dr. Evil Level Worldwide Conflict Puppet Master

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Teslag said:

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Who claimed the gains were "noteworthy"?

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You did when you wrote about them here everyday for weeks. (Months?)

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Incorrect. I said they were incremental each time. Never significant or even noteworthy.

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Sure thing buddy.

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Nothing I said was incorrect or wrong.

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That might be true, but what you're missing is that we're laughing at the sudden change in the tone of your posts, and how quickly you detached from your previous delusions of Ukrainian victory.

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Where and what specifically did I predict for "Ukrainian victory"? I believe I've consistently said Ukrainian victory is the country continuing to simply exist have I not?

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Well 1st it was "Gaining ground every day"

But now its "Well I never said the ground they gained was noteworthy"

For a min it was "stacking Russian bodies"

Now it is "nothing I have posted is wrong"

Just watching you back pedal is incredible.

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All true and accurate. Where is the issue?

This is one of those geopolitical wars that we aren't going to be sure who wins the long term war, kind of like the cold war. Did the West succeed in taking out a generation of Russian working age males causing their economy to collapse or did Russia get rid of all of the undesirables and take enough skilled workers from Ukraine to help with their economy? Plus Russia has taken a lot of areas with natural resources and still hold Crimea giving it another deep water port.

Seems like the industrial military complex got wealthier while hundreds of thousands from both sides became casualties. Several towns have been completely wiped off the map and you know Russia is not going to pay to have them repaired.

The only thing for sure that has come of this war is tactics have changed. Drones and smart artillery are the preferred method. China and the USA have seen this and you can be sure both are ramping up their drone technology to get soldiers off the battlefield

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Who claimed the gains were "noteworthy"?

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You did when you wrote about them here everyday for weeks. (Months?)

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Incorrect. I said they were incremental each time. Never significant or even noteworthy.

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Sure thing buddy.

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Nothing I said was incorrect or wrong.

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That might be true, but what you're missing is that we're laughing at the sudden change in the tone of your posts, and how quickly you detached from your previous delusions of Ukrainian victory.

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Where and what specifically did I predict for "Ukrainian victory"? I believe I've consistently said Ukrainian victory is the country continuing to simply exist have I not?

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Well 1st it was "Gaining ground every day"

But now its "Well I never said the ground they gained was noteworthy"

For a min it was "stacking Russian bodies"

Now it is "nothing I have posted is wrong"

Just watching you back pedal is incredible.

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All true and accurate. Where is the issue?

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The "issue" is that you can't see it. But I think humor or joke is a better word to use than issue in your question.

Of course referencing the change in tone from each of the supporters in this thread, alongside the cracks and separation forming in the Uke propagandized narrative.

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Who claimed the gains were "noteworthy"?

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You did when you wrote about them here everyday for weeks. (Months?)

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Incorrect. I said they were incremental each time. Never significant or even noteworthy.

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Sure thing buddy.

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Nothing I said was incorrect or wrong.

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That might be true, but what you're missing is that we're laughing at the sudden change in the tone of your posts, and how quickly you detached from your previous delusions of Ukrainian victory.

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Where and what specifically did I predict for "Ukrainian victory"? I believe I've consistently said Ukrainian victory is the country continuing to simply exist have I not?

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Well 1st it was "Gaining ground every day"

But now its "Well I never said the ground they gained was noteworthy"

For a min it was "stacking Russian bodies"

Now it is "nothing I have posted is wrong"

Just watching you back pedal is incredible.

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All true and accurate. Where is the issue?

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How's "free, safe, & effective" going these days, SaluteTheVacines?

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Ukraine made significant gains since Russia's unprovoked invasion. Not sure what you consider "noteworthy". Russia hasn't accomplished much noteworthy progress since 2022.

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The Biden proxy war in Ukraine was entirely dependent on provoking Russia to invade/attack Ukraine, with his bellicose attitude and statements in December 2021, which the sane European allies tried to dial down/back from. I'm not saying the invasion was justified, but it's inarguable that the Russians have an argument, which they have made repeatedly over time, that the actions pre-dating the invasion justified it from their perspective.

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Putin said he started it because nazis were persecuting Russians in the eastern territories, too.

So, it's because NATO kept encroaching on Russia, Biden provoking Russia, and Nazis...

And not because Putin wants to take over Ukraine and make them part of Russia again...

Had we honored our agreement to not expand NATO eastward, would Putin have still invaded? Quite possibly.

Is Putin wrong for ordering an invasion of his neighbor? By most standards: clearly.

Is an unending bloody proxy war with Russia the wisest & most ethical course of action? Many of us remain unconvinced.

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Now, I need to get to Ukraine funding, which is dead for now.

Several Republican Senators tell me they have become increasingly convinced over several months that Joe Biden wants to kill the funding. This explains his very slow roll to provide Ukraine the deliverables he previously promised them. Biden has repeatedly promised munitions and other supplies to Ukraine and then never actually sent them, or slow rolled it.

At this point, the Democrats could get the Ukraine funding they want, but they will have to compromise on border security, which they have no desire to do and which Joe Biden is not willing to do. The thinking from these Senators is that Joe Biden is using President Zelensky as a prop against the GOP. Biden will blame the GOP for a lack of funding and use that lack of funding to both blame the GOP for a strategic failure in Ukraine and force Zelensky to compromise on land.

It's already increasingly talked about in foreign policy circles that Zelensky is intransigent on the need to compromise while the Germans, French, British, and Americans are more willing to see Ukraine formally give up Crimea and other eastern territories.

Saying, "Sorry, Congress won't budge so we can't supply you weapons," will force Zelensky to make decisions he has otherwise refused to make. Biden gets what he actually wants while also using the GOP as scapegoats.

This really is not rocket science except, perhaps, for a team that cannot even properly vet holiday tweets for the VP's husband. Democrats do not control the House and only have nominal control of the Senate. If you want Ukraine funding, you have to give the GOP border funding.

The press always talks about the need for the GOP to compromise. Now it is the Democrats' turn, or perhaps the Senators are right and Biden is playing politics through policy disagreement.

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Of course. And the Euro's will blame Hungary for their failure to deliver yet more ammo. Nothing is ever team WEF's fault.

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Biden: poopy pants dementia patient

Also Biden: Dr. Evil Level Worldwide Conflict Puppet Master

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Both are correct. He's not the one running the administration, obviously. He can't even read a teleprompter or note card, or use stairs. Those dangerous truths don't obviate the fact that he is a shameless inveterate liar and traitor, or person guilty of treason against the constitution and people of the United States. JRB Ware, or whatever you want to call him, has to claim he wipes his own ass. Maybe, maybe not.

The Valerie Jarrett and Victoria Nulands of the world/state department/executive branch shadow government are just as dangerous as ever and feel no sense of accountability for their subterfuge.

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Ukraine made significant gains since Russia's unprovoked invasion. Not sure what you consider "noteworthy". Russia hasn't accomplished much noteworthy progress since 2022.

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The Biden proxy war in Ukraine was entirely dependent on provoking Russia to invade/attack Ukraine, with his bellicose attitude and statements in December 2021, which the sane European allies tried to dial down/back from. I'm not saying the invasion was justified, but it's inarguable that the Russians have an argument, which they have made repeatedly over time, that the actions pre-dating the invasion justified it from their perspective.

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Putin said he started it because nazis were persecuting Russians in the eastern territories, too.

So, it's because NATO kept encroaching on Russia, Biden provoking Russia, and Nazis...

And not because Putin wants to take over Ukraine and make them part of Russia again...

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I think its all the above including that he was enticed / provoked.