Blackwater, the CCP, our defense contractors, and the corrupt schmucks in Ukraine/Russia love this war, so it's also very popular on both sides of the aisle in DC.

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Putin is getting ***** slapped by a ****ing comedian.

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Great news!

Bu why did Biden ask for $500 million more in aid today?

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Because we need to stack even more Russian corpses

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why do American tax payers care about stacking Russian bodies they are not a threat to the USA

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Elections have consequences

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Elections have consequences

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And ****ing with elections really, really should have consequences.

Its hard to imagine you come up with these exceptionally bad takes all your own.

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Elections have consequences

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And ****ing with elections really, really should have consequences.

Its hard to imagine you come up with these exceptionally bad takes all your own.

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You don't believe that. Because if you did you wouldn't put any faith in the 2014 eastern ukraine "referendums".

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And ****ing with elections really, really should have consequences.

Its hard to imagine you come up with these exceptionally bad takes all your own.

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You don't believe that. Because if you did you wouldn't put any faith in the 2014 eastern ukraine "referendums".

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Is that supposed to mean something to me? I don't give a **** about elections in Ukraine. They seem to be even worse than the ones Dems manage in Georgia and major cities in the US.

Possession is 9/10ths of the law

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Yep, Which is exactly why we should keep arming the Ukes to repossess more and more each day. Kudos to you good sir.

Its also strange seeing these videos of Russians on defense now. Shoe on the other foot from a year ago.

Tucker discusses 'Why are we doing this?'



LOL, he's right.

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As Pelosi puts it, the Ukrainian people are fighting the fight for their democracy, and for ours as well. That's right for ours as well. Without Ukrainian democracy, in other words, we can have no democracy here," Carlson said. "If the Ukrainians aren't free, neither are we. We must make sure they can vote in Kyiv. So we can continue to vote in Kansas City."

However, Carlson pointed out that Zelensky had just announced elections would only be held in his county if they won the war against Russia.

"Will there be elections in Ukraine next year?" A reporter asked Zelensky in a clip Carlson played on his show.

"This is a global question. If we win, there will be," Zelensky responded, according to captions on the video. "So there will be no wartime (martial law), no war. Elections should be held in peacetime, when there is no war, according to the law."

"Your job is to obey or be punished. That's our version of self government. Self means me, I'm the government. Now that's not just any autocrat. That's our chief ally in the war for democracy," Carlson said.

"This is the guy who just announced he's likely to cancel next year's elections?"

Carlson said the clip he played of Zelensky "blew up our entire rationale for supporting his side in the war," then he played a clip of President Joe Biden on Monday doubling down his administration's support for "Ukraine's defense, and sovereignty and its territorial integrity."

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So to recap, we are currently fighting a war for democracy on behalf of a leader who just casually announced he's happy to end democracy, and our democracy-supporting leaders have no problem with that; in fact, they're strongly for it. Shocked? You shouldn't be, of course, there for it. You should have seen this coming. Wars For Democracy always cancel democracy in the process. That's why our leaders love them.

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Carlson also called attention to Ukraine's arrest of American reporter Gonzalo Lira and criticized Biden for not advocating for Lira's release.

"So in a war for democracy, you can do anything. Imagine what a man might do who has fewer principles? If that man, say, ran Ukraine, he might cease Church's arrest priests, ban all criticism of himself, disappear his political opponents. And that's happening," Carlson said. "Just last month Zelenskyy threw a man called Gonzalo Lira into prison indefinitely for the crime of daring to write about the Ukrainian government in unflattering ways."

Biden "…could have freed Gonzalo Lira within hours. But he didn't. He didn't want to. He didn't say a word about it. He remains in prison tonight," Carlson noted.

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Looking back at the Wagner soap opera; was it a western intelligence operation?

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To launch his operation, Prigozhin took a number of steps over a period of the past six or more months. Among these were constant, and provably false, accusations that he was not getting enough ammunition to fight in Bakhmut. Along with that, Prigozhin charged that the army leadership was corrupt, that they refused to defend his flanks during the Bakhmut operation, and that they were losing massively in the Ukraine war. None of these accusations were true. . . .
It turns out, however, there was more to it than that. Sources report that Prigozhin had been in touch with Ukrainian military intelligence (known as the HUR MO), at least since last January. Some sources say that he also flew to Africa, where Wagner forces are operational, to hold a meeting with Ukrainian intelligence officials.

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I believe that Steve's sources on this are solid. Pay particular attention to the timing i.e., a meeting in January. It was a month or so later that Prigozhin launches scathing verbal attacks on Russian Defense Minster Shoigu and Chief of the General Staff Gerasimov. Also, according to documents allegedly posted to Discord by Airman Jack Teixeira, Prigozhin provided Ukraine/NATO with locations of Russian units in the Donbass.

This is strong circumstantial evidence that Prigozhin not only went rogue, he became a traitor.

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Now, LJ, in his article, leaves Bryen's argument at that. He then argues that the information about Russian force deployments that Prigozhin is alleged to have passed on to the Ukrainians would have been "more of the same" intel that NATO was already providing. But Bryen's argument is far more persuasivein my viewthan that quote might appear. Let's look at it in more detail.

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Now, going back to the beginning, to Prigozhin's claimed contacts with Ukrainian intelligenceand ipso facto with Western intelligencethe minute Prigozhin entered into such clandestine contacts he crossed a redline and became a traitor. Traitors are in no position to enforce their own redlines. His contactscontrollers? handlers"?would have wanted far more than troop deployment information. Bryen suggests that Prigozhin would have been in a position to provide information about elements of the military and security services that might support a regime change scheme.

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While it isn't possible to confirm any of this, it seems to be the case that Prigozhin was hoping for a general uprising, so that his March for Justice would be filled out by thousands of highly placed supporters, including the police, army and intelligence.

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Bryen, of course, is aware of the seamy side of Prigozhin, his corruption and so forth. But his key point, as mine above, is that dealing with Ukrainian intelligence would inevitably end up in dealing with Western intel services. Remember, if those reports are true, then Prigozhin crossed a point of no returnonce a traitor always a traitor:

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But the real problem are the contacts Prigozhin had with Ukraine's secret intelligence services, his alleged offers to sell out Russian command centers, and his bargaining for support, not so much from Ukraine, but from the United States. It should surprise no one that the CIA was fully informed by their Ukrainian counterparts, who are desperate to see Russia's leaders overturnedand NATO to come to their rescue.

Prigozhin offered a very good deal. In exchange for outside support he would take over Russia, reorient to the West, and leave Ukraine. The offer, at a critical moment when the Ukrainian offensive is faltering, was an offer hard to refuse.

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Meh, more to follow, as they say. The CIA is good at destabilizing, but not much else.

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Saint Zelensky-Churchill/Xiden dominating the satire news of late.

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Staying on top of the news cycle of satire.

Biden Boasts How Well He Has Handled Ukrainian Economy https://t.co/5kPzomEHKS pic.twitter.com/2ZqDjGuNDj

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) June 28, 2023

Historians Now Claim Hitler Was Just Kidding When He Chanted 'We're Coming For The Jews' https://t.co/Hqh20ahO8B pic.twitter.com/9RWbLjXrda

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) June 28, 2023

8 Disturbing Signs That A President Is Planning To Become An Oppressive Dictator https://t.co/ZIoyHY3CLX

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) June 28, 2023

While telling a long, rambling, and factually-dubious story about Xi Jinping, Biden insists “by the way, I turned in all my notes.”

Classified documents were found in Biden’s possession at multiple locations dating back decades. pic.twitter.com/QtEBopX8Hw

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) June 28, 2023

Biden: "[Putin] is clearly losing the war in Iraq" pic.twitter.com/dKt6yWWGFx

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) June 28, 2023

Can't stop laughing at these clowns.

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Great news!

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why do American tax payers care about stacking Russian bodies they are not a threat to the USA

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It's simply revenge porn for many.

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Hmmm….

Putin's rating rose to 90% following Prigozhin’s mutiny.
There won’t be legal consequences for Prigozhin who will now help Lukashenko fortify the front lines against the West.
Wagner Group will not be dismantled but will continue operate on Belarusian soil as well as in Africa.

— Velina Tchakarova (@vtchakarova) June 27, 2023

Has Xiden been told by Xi to bend the knee?

The President of Belarus, Aleksandr Lukashenko stated today that Specialists within the Wagner PMC Group, once they reach the Territory of Belarus, will be used to Train the Belarusian Armed Forces in Combat and Weapons Tactics as well as Defensive Maneuvers. pic.twitter.com/o6fLsNbx9q

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) June 27, 2023

The Flight has “Gone out of Range” so it won’t appear back on Flight Tracking until it gets closer to Newfoundland in Northeastern Canada, I will Update once it’s back.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) June 27, 2023

I'm glad to see diplomacy perhaps being given a chance, as per above. Sure, some dimmer elements of "American" statecraft swamp has been out there planting propaganda, but it seems perhaps Biden and Zelensky alike will prove unusefulin 2024 for the CCP.

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On Sunday the U.S.Secretary of State went on four morning shows to play the same distinct melody over and over again:
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SECRETARY BLINKEN: And it was a direct challenge to Putin's authority. So this raises profound questions. It shows real cracks. We can't speculate or know exactly where that's going to go. We do know that Putin has a lot more to answer for in the weeks and months ahead.
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SECRETARY BLINKEN: These create more cracks in the Russian faade, and those cracks were already profound. Economically, militarily, its standing in the world all of those things have been dramatically diminished by Putin's aggression against Ukraine. He's managed to bring Europe together. He's managed to bring NATO together. He's managed to get Europe to move off of Russian energy. He's managed to alienate Ukrainians and unite Ukraine at the same time. So across the board this has been a strategic failure. Now you introduce into that profound internal divisions, and there are lots of questions he's going to have to answer in the weeks ahead.

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Secretary Antony J. Blinken With Chuck Todd of NBC Meet The Press

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SECRETARY BLINKEN: ... So I think we've seen more cracks emerge in the Russian facade. It is too soon to tell exactly where they go and when they get there. But certainly we have all sorts of new questions that Putin is going to have to address in the weeks and months ahead.
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This is just the latest chapter in a book of failure that Putin has written for himself and for Russia. Economically, militarily, its standing in the world all of things have plummeted. We have a united NATO that's stronger than ever before, a Europe that is weaning itself off of Russian energy, Ukraine that Putin has managed to alienate and unite at the same time. Now, with trouble brewing from within, this, as I said, just adds more questions that he has to find answers for.

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Secretary Antony J. Blinken With Dana Bash of CNN State of the Union

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SECRETARY BLINKEN: But we can say this. First of all, what we've seen is extraordinary, and I think you see cracks emerge that weren't there before ...
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We've seen this aggression against Ukraine become a strategic failure across the board. Russia is weaker economically, militarily. Its standing around the world has plummeted. It's managed to get Europeans off of Russian energy. It's managed to unite and strengthen NATO with new members and a stronger Alliance. It's managed to alienate from Russia and unite together Ukraine in ways that it's never been before. This is just an added chapter to a very, very bad book that Putin has written for Russia.

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Secretary Antony J. Blinken With Jonathan Karl of ABC This Week

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SECRETARY BLINKEN: But I think we can say this much: First, we've seen some very serious cracks emerge.
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But we've seen, I think, lots of different cracks that have emerged in the conduct of this aggression, because everything Putin has tried to accomplish, the opposite has happened. Russia is weaker economically. It's weaker militarily. Its standing in the world has plummeted. It's managed to strengthen and unite NATO. It's managed to alienate and unite Ukrainians. It's managed to get Europe off of dependence on Russian energy.

In piece after piece, issue after issue, what Putin has tried to prevent, he's managed to precipitate. And Russia's standing is vastly diminished as a result. Now, add to that internal dissention. Again, we can't speculate on where this goes. We have to remain and we are focused on Ukraine, but it certainly raises new questions that he's going to have to address.

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The very same (false) talking points, repeated over and over again, are a sure sign of lies and an organized propaganda campaign.

For the record. Progozhin was all alone in his mutiny attempt. Not one element of the Russian government or civil society joint him in his ride. So where are the cracks? There are none. Also Russia's military is now larger and better equipped then before the war. Russia's economy is fine and growing. Its standing in the world has increased.

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Was Prigozhin all alone after all?

#BREAKING: General Sergei Surovikin, the deputy commander of the joint group of Russian troops in Ukraine, has been arrested. The New York Times had reported that per US intel, Surovikin had previous knowledge of the Wagner Group's planned mutiny attempt. -The Moscow Times pic.twitter.com/ScMP3FRk7b

— Moshe Schwartz (@YWNReporter) June 28, 2023

Cracks forming

I'm not a fan of sending so much money over there. I get the corruption and military-industrial complex issues.

But I'm also pretty darn sure this Russian "military operation" is not going to plan. The loss of the flagship Moskva, tens of thousands of troops (likely already surpassing the US losses in Vietnam), thousands of vehicles and over 100 aircraft. Russia seems incapable of coordinated combined arms action and they don't seem to have high-altitude guided munitions capability. The fact they still -- after 18 months -- still haven't achieved anywhere near air superiority is remarkable.

The only way Russia is "stronger" after this conflict is the lessons learned (if they are capable) and combat-experienced troops (if they are allowed by Russia's command to live). They are (if they are smart) rethinking some of their doctrines but there's still a remarkable amount of inertia and corruption in the highest levels of the Russian military who may not be capable of real change.

Russia's doctrine when playing defense will be difficult for Ukraine to overcome. The minefields are the biggest hindrance for the Uke army.

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Was Prigozhin all alone after all?

#BREAKING: General Sergei Surovikin, the deputy commander of the joint group of Russian troops in Ukraine, has been arrested. The New York Times had reported that per US intel, Surovikin had previous knowledge of the Wagner Group's planned mutiny attempt. -The Moscow Times pic.twitter.com/ScMP3FRk7b

— Moshe Schwartz (@YWNReporter) June 28, 2023

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Evidently our guys knew as well. I would like to see Putin hold Biden and other US oligarchs who colluded with the Wagner Group.

I mean, we do that to them...

Good post. A lot of truth there.

The Russians were/are very arrogant, and dismissive about losses (especially early on and with PMC's). Per above, they've changed a lot of leadership, including very recently/coup attempt. Putin has discussed the 'parquet generals' and his frustration with such quite a bit too.

Inarguably though, looking at metrics etc. the Russian Army has more trained/equipped/fielded soldiers today than it did in early 2022.

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So I have read on this thread that the Russian military is now stronger than it was at the beginning of hostilities. Can someone 1) explain that in terms of the "how" and 2) explain why if this is the case the Russians have been unable to make significant progress? Even with Western aid I do not see Ukraine as a near peer with the Russian military, so where is the disconnect?

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First you must recognize that the initial fight was not Russian military. It was largely Ukrainian russians of the Donbass who fled to Russia, during the last decade of Ukrainian Civil War, and were supplied to "retake the holy land".

Russia legally has restrictions from using its regular military, which is why last Summer it was important for Moscow to accept Luhansk and Donestk into the federation because then they could pivot from "special operation" (material aid and tertiary support) to actual support.

Since then Russia has gone from proxy fight to partial mobilization of its population. Putin this week is now at 90% approval post the "coup". The Russian street are eating it up, and the anti-west rhetoric is red meat for the plebs, not to mention it helps realign the global narrative foe BRICS countries.

Is this going to be like Hitler in July 1944?

The first paragraph is not true at all.

Russian Marines amphibiously landed on the south coast and dozens of active duty Russian BTGs were involved in the invasion from day one. VDV paratroopers from the 331st Guards Parachute Regiment (highly trained, elite Russian Army airborne troops) flew in to secure the airfield at Hostomel and other key locations west of Kyiv. They suffered catastrophic losses, including the loss of their commanding officer. Multiple Russian BTGs were rendered inoperable in the first several weeks of the war. These were not just a farm boys pulled out of the contested regions. These were trained Russian regular troops.

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Putin's rating rose to 90% following Prigozhin’s mutiny.
There won’t be legal consequences for Prigozhin who will now help Lukashenko fortify the front lines against the West.
Wagner Group will not be dismantled but will continue operate on Belarusian soil as well as in Africa.

— Velina Tchakarova (@vtchakarova) June 27, 2023

Has Xiden been told by Xi to bend the knee?

The President of Belarus, Aleksandr Lukashenko stated today that Specialists within the Wagner PMC Group, once they reach the Territory of Belarus, will be used to Train the Belarusian Armed Forces in Combat and Weapons Tactics as well as Defensive Maneuvers. pic.twitter.com/o6fLsNbx9q

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) June 27, 2023

The Flight has “Gone out of Range” so it won’t appear back on Flight Tracking until it gets closer to Newfoundland in Northeastern Canada, I will Update once it’s back.

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) June 27, 2023

I'm glad to see diplomacy perhaps being given a chance, as per above. Sure, some dimmer elements of "American" statecraft swamp has been out there planting propaganda, but it seems perhaps Biden and Zelensky alike will prove unusefulin 2024 for the CCP.

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On Sunday the U.S.Secretary of State went on four morning shows to play the same distinct melody over and over again:
Secretary Antony J. Blinken With Margaret Brennan of CBS Face the Nation

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SECRETARY BLINKEN: And it was a direct challenge to Putin's authority. So this raises profound questions. It shows real cracks. We can't speculate or know exactly where that's going to go. We do know that Putin has a lot more to answer for in the weeks and months ahead.
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SECRETARY BLINKEN: These create more cracks in the Russian faade, and those cracks were already profound. Economically, militarily, its standing in the world all of those things have been dramatically diminished by Putin's aggression against Ukraine. He's managed to bring Europe together. He's managed to bring NATO together. He's managed to get Europe to move off of Russian energy. He's managed to alienate Ukrainians and unite Ukraine at the same time. So across the board this has been a strategic failure. Now you introduce into that profound internal divisions, and there are lots of questions he's going to have to answer in the weeks ahead.

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Secretary Antony J. Blinken With Chuck Todd of NBC Meet The Press

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SECRETARY BLINKEN: ... So I think we've seen more cracks emerge in the Russian facade. It is too soon to tell exactly where they go and when they get there. But certainly we have all sorts of new questions that Putin is going to have to address in the weeks and months ahead.
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This is just the latest chapter in a book of failure that Putin has written for himself and for Russia. Economically, militarily, its standing in the world all of things have plummeted. We have a united NATO that's stronger than ever before, a Europe that is weaning itself off of Russian energy, Ukraine that Putin has managed to alienate and unite at the same time. Now, with trouble brewing from within, this, as I said, just adds more questions that he has to find answers for.

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Secretary Antony J. Blinken With Dana Bash of CNN State of the Union

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SECRETARY BLINKEN: But we can say this. First of all, what we've seen is extraordinary, and I think you see cracks emerge that weren't there before ...
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We've seen this aggression against Ukraine become a strategic failure across the board. Russia is weaker economically, militarily. Its standing around the world has plummeted. It's managed to get Europeans off of Russian energy. It's managed to unite and strengthen NATO with new members and a stronger Alliance. It's managed to alienate from Russia and unite together Ukraine in ways that it's never been before. This is just an added chapter to a very, very bad book that Putin has written for Russia.

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Secretary Antony J. Blinken With Jonathan Karl of ABC This Week

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SECRETARY BLINKEN: But I think we can say this much: First, we've seen some very serious cracks emerge.
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But we've seen, I think, lots of different cracks that have emerged in the conduct of this aggression, because everything Putin has tried to accomplish, the opposite has happened. Russia is weaker economically. It's weaker militarily. Its standing in the world has plummeted. It's managed to strengthen and unite NATO. It's managed to alienate and unite Ukrainians. It's managed to get Europe off of dependence on Russian energy.

In piece after piece, issue after issue, what Putin has tried to prevent, he's managed to precipitate. And Russia's standing is vastly diminished as a result. Now, add to that internal dissention. Again, we can't speculate on where this goes. We have to remain and we are focused on Ukraine, but it certainly raises new questions that he's going to have to address.

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The very same (false) talking points, repeated over and over again, are a sure sign of lies and an organized propaganda campaign.

For the record. Progozhin was all alone in his mutiny attempt. Not one element of the Russian government or civil society joint him in his ride. So where are the cracks? There are none. Also Russia's military is now larger and better equipped then before the war. Russia's economy is fine and growing. Its standing in the world has increased.

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Valid points, if inconvenient to those who consume/take seriously just propaganda from the MSM etc.

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Was Prigozhin all alone after all?

#BREAKING: General Sergei Surovikin, the deputy commander of the joint group of Russian troops in Ukraine, has been arrested. The New York Times had reported that per US intel, Surovikin had previous knowledge of the Wagner Group's planned mutiny attempt. -The Moscow Times pic.twitter.com/ScMP3FRk7b

— Moshe Schwartz (@YWNReporter) June 28, 2023

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Dictators ALWAYS need their fall guy...

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I'm not a fan of sending so much money over there. I get the corruption and military-industrial complex issues.

But I'm also pretty darn sure this Russian "military operation" is not going to plan. The loss of the flagship Moskva, tens of thousands of troops (likely already surpassing the US losses in Vietnam), thousands of vehicles and over 100 aircraft. Russia seems incapable of coordinated combined arms action and they don't seem to have high-altitude guided munitions capability. The fact they still -- after 18 months -- still haven't achieved anywhere near air superiority is remarkable.

The only way Russia is "stronger" after this conflict is the lessons learned (if they are capable) and combat-experienced troops (if they are allowed by Russia's command to live). They are (if they are smart) rethinking some of their doctrines but there's still a remarkable amount of inertia and corruption in the highest levels of the Russian military who may not be capable of real change.

Russia's doctrine when playing defense will be difficult for Ukraine to overcome. The minefields are the biggest hindrance for the Uke army.

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Nothing says "We're here to save the people" more than mining where they live!

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The first paragraph is not true at all.

Russian Marines amphibiously landed on the south coast and dozens of active duty Russian BTGs were involved in the invasion from day one. VDV paratroopers from the 331st Guards Parachute Regiment (highly trained, elite Russian Army airborne troops) flew in to secure the airfield at Hostomel and other key locations west of Kyiv. They suffered catastrophic losses, including the loss of their commanding officer. Multiple Russian BTGs were rendered inoperable in the first several weeks of the war. These were not just a farm boys pulled out of the contested regions. These were trained Russian regular troops.

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He was just posting some Putin fan fiction for the crowd here.

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Switzerland are nothing but IVANS!!!!/UKE fan girls

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Dammit. And Trump once dated a Swiss model, likes Swiss cheese, and has a Swiss watch. This absolutely points to him continuing to collude with the Russians and undermine the US.

They showed up to kill Nazi's. Its going well.

Some are upset at the missile strike recently. Not sure what side to believe on this. I don't believe 3rd Ranger Bn would have soldiers there, though it could in fact be a former soldier working as a mercenary etc.

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In his latest speech Putin said that Prigozhin catering business with the army as well as his other business will now come under scrutiny. There was without doubt some over-billing and fraud involved. Prigozhin should have know that under Putin's regime oligarchs are not allowed to intervene in politics. Putin successfully fought against those oligarchs who tried as soon as he came to power. Prigozhin's attempt to get Defense Minister Shoigu and General Gerasimov fired was such an intervention. It will likely cost him his business.

Yesterday there was a missile strike of unknown provenance on a hotel complex in Kramatorsk:

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The missile tore into the crowded Ria Lounge restaurant at dinnertime on Tuesday, setting off a large blaze that burned for more than two hours. By Wednesday afternoon, the Ukrainian authorities said that 10 people had been confirmed dead including 14-year-old twin sisters and 61 others were wounded."

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Video from the scene taken immediately after the event show English speaking men with the one helping a wounded exposing a quad angle tattoo with the number 3 written in it on his right arm (see at 7 sec in).

This is said to be a sign of the 3rd Ranger Battalion of the U.S. army which is a part of the U.S. special operation forces.

Another video taken during rubble clearing at night has a (British?) English speaker saying "Look what these *******s are doing to this country. There's soldiers under this rubble all over."

This seems to confirm that the hotel complex and its restaurant were not exclusively used for civilian purposes but housed and catered to foreign soldiers.

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I will just continue to be skeptical of all claims from both Ukraine (our MSM) and Russia.

Meanwhile, Putin has apparently arrested one of his generals who was perhaps too slow to take action vs. Priggy when he was having 1,000 or 4,000 march up the road toward Moscow.

In Show Of Solidarity With Ukraine, Biden Cancels 2024 U.S. Elections https://t.co/bCkjeKw2N0 pic.twitter.com/FeooSUhDVk

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) June 28, 2023

The UK is one of the countries leading the charge to arm and fund Ukraine in the war for "freedom." Ironic.

They want to force him out and are closing his bank accounts.

-> Whenever you like him or not … this should be not happening in a free and democratic country.

pic.twitter.com/8k99KjHsOs

— Lord Bebo (@MyLordBebo) June 29, 2023

It's funny to go back now and re-read the war cheerleader section predictions vs. the present 'well, the (mythologized) spring offensive isn't really in full gear yet' attitudes.

Expectation: Russia is a million men short, and Ukrainian troops will secretly smash through thinly manned lines. 1/23

Reality: Ukraine launches the most telegraphed operation of all time, attacks in the most predictable way, and has yet to reach the "thinly manned lines". pic.twitter.com/mONQ0IRys8

— Л?берал_𝙈𝙤𝙣𝙖𝙧𝙘𝙝 🧠🎮 (@liberalmonarch) June 28, 2023

The Ukraine war is portrayed as a fight between liberal and illiberal values. Here’s why that distinction is deeply flawed. pic.twitter.com/YS1GNUKKDM

— Dinesh D'Souza (@DineshDSouza) June 29, 2023

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Pft. Says the guy that has no problem posting easily verifiable BS from anonymous twitter sources.

To be fair, many of them aren't anonymous. Some are just outright Russian propaganda like Scott Ritter which he cites in a tone of fact.

I love responding to posts like this. I bet you have a blue and yellow bumper sticker on your car, don't you?

Good piece out yesterday about Wagner. I don't think they were/are 'good guys' as the author clearly does, but it's an interesting history.

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I bet you have a blue and yellow bumper sticker on your car, don't you?

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Oh man you crushed him with that one!

Teslag said:

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I bet you have a blue and yellow bumper sticker on your car, don't you?

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Oh man you crushed him with that one!

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Agreed.

nortex97 said:

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I love responding to posts like this. I bet you have a blue and yellow bumper sticker on your car, don't you?

Good piece out yesterday about Wagner. I don't think they were/are 'good guys' as the author clearly does, but it's an interesting history.

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After today they probably go all in on Pence since he was first candidate to go fellate Zelensky and ride the secret polish sausage train.

I guess, seeing the news today, but really, whatever. Pence was retired and basically out of politics when Trump picked him, and he's not ever going to be president.

Outside of DJT I am not real clear what the GOP candidates really offer to end the war. I do think Newsom/Dem-CCP would of course keep it going for several more years. DeSantis has sort of prevaricated a bit but I think he'd be the most level-headed/pragmatic if he gets into office. RFJ Jr. would clearly be the best Democrat option but…well, see Pence notes above.

I hear ya. Wars and assistance provided to wars should have a clear, defined and stated objective and the money we provide should have strings and should include a provision for repayment.

Currently, our mission is "to help defend greatest sovereign Ukraine and the brave Ukes to repel the evil Putin rooskies because we hate them and must always hate them".

Why not "US will commit up to $1 billion in aid (total of all forms) before 12/31/2023. If Ukraine is in conflict with Russia past that date, they will either need to enter into an agreement with Russia for peace or begin repaying the aid."

I know that is fantasy. But it should be the reality. In fact, when the fed provides money to the states there is a claw back provision if the money is not spent as intended or by date certain.

The other issue is that there is zero accountability/ability to audit where the aid actually goes. By design. We've had posts/articles documenting this difference but it bears repeating.

The gist of it is that unlike Afghanistan/any other war we don't have folks tracking where specific aid/funds are going on the ground, so we have to trust the Ukrainians to do it.

"Oversight from afar" of $150 billion plus (by now) of weapons/money shipped to Ukraine.

Yeah, right.

Forever war. Trust the Xidens.