Russia/Ukraine from Another Perspective (Relaunch Part Deux)

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PlaneCrashGuy
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Ag with kids said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Ag with kids said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Teslag said:


Quote:

And please answer my question, Are you for giving Ukraine permission to make advanced weapons strike into Russia?

I literally quoted your question and said yes in the previous post.

And define "win".


This is what everyone that has been opposed to Ukraine funding has said from the get go.

The Ukraine fanboys need to define the terms of victory.

Period

Yall are the ones begging for unlimited aid and escalation.

So YOU tell US what the goals are here.

It's not our job to tell you what we want accomplished because we are against funding this **** show.

The onus is on YOU to tell us WHY the investment of untraceable money amd material is necessary, what the goals are, and how a "win" would be defined.

Per usual, u have this assbackwards my dude.


Who is saying this?
Nobody that I know. It's a strawman.


Actually the fact that Ukrainian aid is attached to almost every bill that touches the floor of congress and when we call out such things the Teslag crew calls us Putin Fanboys is pretty much proof that the Warhawks and neocons on here want unlimited Ukrainian Aid.

If you have spent anytime at all reading this thread you will have seen that there are two major camps.

1) calls for moderation, oversight of aid, deescalation, and peace agreement.

2) the other calls for aid without oversight, and whatever it takes to stack Russian bodies.

I have consistently taken side 1
Teslag et al. Have consistently taken side 2 and defended every aid package put before the congressional floor.


None of what you said equals the below.

Quote:

Yall are the ones begging for unlimited aid and escalation.


Would you like to try again? Or maybe just admit that you made it up?


So if you're not "begging for unlimited aid" as he wrote, when/where did you define your desired cap in aid? If you haven't made that clear, could you quantify how much aid you think should be sent and what your dollar limit is?

I could find "as long as it takes" style posts in the ole bookmarks if you're going to pretend that hasn't been a consistent theme in this thread.
So, if there is not an explicit dollar limit, then it's "unlimited"? As in infinite?

That's inane. Here's an example:

How much will you spend in your life on tacos? If you can't tell me an exact dollar amount, then you're willing to spend an unlimited amount on tacos.


Less then $10 per week. That wasn't hard.

Whats your limit on aid? If you can't provide one, it's completely reasonable to assume you're asking for unlimited money, because you are.


He said posters are "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Seems easy to find evidence of that, and yet there is none. Just another strawman.


The evidence is 200 pages of calling for more aid without defining a limit to that aid.

If someone defined the limit and I missed it, you could show me where they did so and I'd agree with you.


You can make whatever logic leap to support your usual vague trolling arguments that you'd like. Meanwhile, back in the real world where actual words matter, I'll continue to wait for that poster to quote someone "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Guessing I'll be waiting awhile.


Then show/tell us the limit. Unlimited means "without limit"

Nothing vague about this: if you can't define the limit then "unlimited" is an accurate description.


That poster didn't say "they won't give a limit on how much/how long the aid will go." He literally said posters are "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." I'm just looking for any evidence of that. I'm guessing he hasn't defended the comment because he knows he made it up.


There's 250 pages of evidence.

Begging for unlimited aid means begging for aid without a limit.

Can you show me where anyone has provided a limit? Without a limit = unlimited. I thought you were the "words matter" guy. What gives?

You could provide your limit at anytime but you haven't done that either, which givesncredence to the notion that you're asking for unlimited aid.
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
J. Walter Weatherman
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Ag with kids said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Ag with kids said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Teslag said:


Quote:

And please answer my question, Are you for giving Ukraine permission to make advanced weapons strike into Russia?

I literally quoted your question and said yes in the previous post.

And define "win".


This is what everyone that has been opposed to Ukraine funding has said from the get go.

The Ukraine fanboys need to define the terms of victory.

Period

Yall are the ones begging for unlimited aid and escalation.

So YOU tell US what the goals are here.

It's not our job to tell you what we want accomplished because we are against funding this **** show.

The onus is on YOU to tell us WHY the investment of untraceable money amd material is necessary, what the goals are, and how a "win" would be defined.

Per usual, u have this assbackwards my dude.


Who is saying this?
Nobody that I know. It's a strawman.


Actually the fact that Ukrainian aid is attached to almost every bill that touches the floor of congress and when we call out such things the Teslag crew calls us Putin Fanboys is pretty much proof that the Warhawks and neocons on here want unlimited Ukrainian Aid.

If you have spent anytime at all reading this thread you will have seen that there are two major camps.

1) calls for moderation, oversight of aid, deescalation, and peace agreement.

2) the other calls for aid without oversight, and whatever it takes to stack Russian bodies.

I have consistently taken side 1
Teslag et al. Have consistently taken side 2 and defended every aid package put before the congressional floor.


None of what you said equals the below.

Quote:

Yall are the ones begging for unlimited aid and escalation.


Would you like to try again? Or maybe just admit that you made it up?


So if you're not "begging for unlimited aid" as he wrote, when/where did you define your desired cap in aid? If you haven't made that clear, could you quantify how much aid you think should be sent and what your dollar limit is?

I could find "as long as it takes" style posts in the ole bookmarks if you're going to pretend that hasn't been a consistent theme in this thread.
So, if there is not an explicit dollar limit, then it's "unlimited"? As in infinite?

That's inane. Here's an example:

How much will you spend in your life on tacos? If you can't tell me an exact dollar amount, then you're willing to spend an unlimited amount on tacos.


Less then $10 per week. That wasn't hard.

Whats your limit on aid? If you can't provide one, it's completely reasonable to assume you're asking for unlimited money, because you are.


He said posters are "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Seems easy to find evidence of that, and yet there is none. Just another strawman.


The evidence is 200 pages of calling for more aid without defining a limit to that aid.

If someone defined the limit and I missed it, you could show me where they did so and I'd agree with you.


You can make whatever logic leap to support your usual vague trolling arguments that you'd like. Meanwhile, back in the real world where actual words matter, I'll continue to wait for that poster to quote someone "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Guessing I'll be waiting awhile.


Then show/tell us the limit. Unlimited means "without limit"

Nothing vague about this: if you can't define the limit then "unlimited" is an accurate description.


That poster didn't say "they won't give a limit on how much/how long the aid will go." He literally said posters are "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." I'm just looking for any evidence of that. I'm guessing he hasn't defended the comment because he knows he made it up.


There's 250 pages of evidence.

Begging for unlimited aid means begging for aid without a limit.

Can you show me where anyone has provided a limit? Without a limit = unlimited. I thought you were the "words matter" guy. What gives?


If there are 250 pages it should be easy to find one post where someone is "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Can you share one?

And no, someone supporting the current aid does not equal "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." By your logic if I said "I'm going for a run today" but don't say how long that would automatically mean I'm literally running forever. Usually your weird semantics trolling is better than this.
PlaneCrashGuy
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Teslag said:

I don't have to justify anything. The aid is already approved and will continue.


Here is a post declaring the aid will continue. Do you see a limit?
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
PlaneCrashGuy
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Ag with kids said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Ag with kids said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Teslag said:


Quote:

And please answer my question, Are you for giving Ukraine permission to make advanced weapons strike into Russia?

I literally quoted your question and said yes in the previous post.

And define "win".


This is what everyone that has been opposed to Ukraine funding has said from the get go.

The Ukraine fanboys need to define the terms of victory.

Period

Yall are the ones begging for unlimited aid and escalation.

So YOU tell US what the goals are here.

It's not our job to tell you what we want accomplished because we are against funding this **** show.

The onus is on YOU to tell us WHY the investment of untraceable money amd material is necessary, what the goals are, and how a "win" would be defined.

Per usual, u have this assbackwards my dude.


Who is saying this?
Nobody that I know. It's a strawman.


Actually the fact that Ukrainian aid is attached to almost every bill that touches the floor of congress and when we call out such things the Teslag crew calls us Putin Fanboys is pretty much proof that the Warhawks and neocons on here want unlimited Ukrainian Aid.

If you have spent anytime at all reading this thread you will have seen that there are two major camps.

1) calls for moderation, oversight of aid, deescalation, and peace agreement.

2) the other calls for aid without oversight, and whatever it takes to stack Russian bodies.

I have consistently taken side 1
Teslag et al. Have consistently taken side 2 and defended every aid package put before the congressional floor.


None of what you said equals the below.

Quote:

Yall are the ones begging for unlimited aid and escalation.


Would you like to try again? Or maybe just admit that you made it up?


So if you're not "begging for unlimited aid" as he wrote, when/where did you define your desired cap in aid? If you haven't made that clear, could you quantify how much aid you think should be sent and what your dollar limit is?

I could find "as long as it takes" style posts in the ole bookmarks if you're going to pretend that hasn't been a consistent theme in this thread.
So, if there is not an explicit dollar limit, then it's "unlimited"? As in infinite?

That's inane. Here's an example:

How much will you spend in your life on tacos? If you can't tell me an exact dollar amount, then you're willing to spend an unlimited amount on tacos.


Less then $10 per week. That wasn't hard.

Whats your limit on aid? If you can't provide one, it's completely reasonable to assume you're asking for unlimited money, because you are.


He said posters are "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Seems easy to find evidence of that, and yet there is none. Just another strawman.


The evidence is 200 pages of calling for more aid without defining a limit to that aid.

If someone defined the limit and I missed it, you could show me where they did so and I'd agree with you.


You can make whatever logic leap to support your usual vague trolling arguments that you'd like. Meanwhile, back in the real world where actual words matter, I'll continue to wait for that poster to quote someone "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Guessing I'll be waiting awhile.


Then show/tell us the limit. Unlimited means "without limit"

Nothing vague about this: if you can't define the limit then "unlimited" is an accurate description.


That poster didn't say "they won't give a limit on how much/how long the aid will go." He literally said posters are "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." I'm just looking for any evidence of that. I'm guessing he hasn't defended the comment because he knows he made it up.


There's 250 pages of evidence.

Begging for unlimited aid means begging for aid without a limit.

Can you show me where anyone has provided a limit? Without a limit = unlimited. I thought you were the "words matter" guy. What gives?


If there are 250 pages it should be easy to find one post where someone is "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Can you share one?

And no, someone supporting the current aid does not equal "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." By your logic if I said "I'm going for a run today" but don't say how long that would automatically mean I'm literally running forever. Usually your weird semantics trolling is better than this.


You have demonstrated you don't know what unlimited means with this statement. "My how the mighty have fallen from "words matter"

Unlimited means without limit, not infinity.
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
Teslag
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The limit is when Putin decides it's no longer necessary
PlaneCrashGuy
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Teslag said:

The limit is when Putin decides it's no longer necessary


I know. Thank you for confirming it is unlimited.
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
J. Walter Weatherman
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

I don't have to justify anything. The aid is already approved and will continue.


Here is a post declaring the aid will continue. Do you see a limit?


"I am going for a run today."

"Whoa do you mean you are literally running forever????" /PCG
PlaneCrashGuy
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Teslag said:

I don't have to justify anything. The aid is already approved and will continue.


Here is a post declaring the aid will continue. Do you see a limit?


"I am going for a run today."

"Whoa do you mean you are literally running forever????" /PCG


I will repeat myself: Unlimited means without limit, it does not mean infinity. "In the real world where words matter"
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
J. Walter Weatherman
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Ag with kids said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Ag with kids said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Teslag said:


Quote:

And please answer my question, Are you for giving Ukraine permission to make advanced weapons strike into Russia?

I literally quoted your question and said yes in the previous post.

And define "win".


This is what everyone that has been opposed to Ukraine funding has said from the get go.

The Ukraine fanboys need to define the terms of victory.

Period

Yall are the ones begging for unlimited aid and escalation.

So YOU tell US what the goals are here.

It's not our job to tell you what we want accomplished because we are against funding this **** show.

The onus is on YOU to tell us WHY the investment of untraceable money amd material is necessary, what the goals are, and how a "win" would be defined.

Per usual, u have this assbackwards my dude.


Who is saying this?
Nobody that I know. It's a strawman.


Actually the fact that Ukrainian aid is attached to almost every bill that touches the floor of congress and when we call out such things the Teslag crew calls us Putin Fanboys is pretty much proof that the Warhawks and neocons on here want unlimited Ukrainian Aid.

If you have spent anytime at all reading this thread you will have seen that there are two major camps.

1) calls for moderation, oversight of aid, deescalation, and peace agreement.

2) the other calls for aid without oversight, and whatever it takes to stack Russian bodies.

I have consistently taken side 1
Teslag et al. Have consistently taken side 2 and defended every aid package put before the congressional floor.


None of what you said equals the below.

Quote:

Yall are the ones begging for unlimited aid and escalation.


Would you like to try again? Or maybe just admit that you made it up?


So if you're not "begging for unlimited aid" as he wrote, when/where did you define your desired cap in aid? If you haven't made that clear, could you quantify how much aid you think should be sent and what your dollar limit is?

I could find "as long as it takes" style posts in the ole bookmarks if you're going to pretend that hasn't been a consistent theme in this thread.
So, if there is not an explicit dollar limit, then it's "unlimited"? As in infinite?

That's inane. Here's an example:

How much will you spend in your life on tacos? If you can't tell me an exact dollar amount, then you're willing to spend an unlimited amount on tacos.


Less then $10 per week. That wasn't hard.

Whats your limit on aid? If you can't provide one, it's completely reasonable to assume you're asking for unlimited money, because you are.


He said posters are "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Seems easy to find evidence of that, and yet there is none. Just another strawman.


The evidence is 200 pages of calling for more aid without defining a limit to that aid.

If someone defined the limit and I missed it, you could show me where they did so and I'd agree with you.


You can make whatever logic leap to support your usual vague trolling arguments that you'd like. Meanwhile, back in the real world where actual words matter, I'll continue to wait for that poster to quote someone "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Guessing I'll be waiting awhile.


Then show/tell us the limit. Unlimited means "without limit"

Nothing vague about this: if you can't define the limit then "unlimited" is an accurate description.


That poster didn't say "they won't give a limit on how much/how long the aid will go." He literally said posters are "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." I'm just looking for any evidence of that. I'm guessing he hasn't defended the comment because he knows he made it up.


There's 250 pages of evidence.

Begging for unlimited aid means begging for aid without a limit.

Can you show me where anyone has provided a limit? Without a limit = unlimited. I thought you were the "words matter" guy. What gives?


If there are 250 pages it should be easy to find one post where someone is "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Can you share one?

And no, someone supporting the current aid does not equal "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." By your logic if I said "I'm going for a run today" but don't say how long that would automatically mean I'm literally running forever. Usually your weird semantics trolling is better than this.


You have demonstrated you don't know what unlimited means with this statement. "My how the mighty have fallen from "words matter"

Unlimited means without limit, not infinity.


Quote:

Usually your weird semantics trolling is better than this.
PlaneCrashGuy
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Ag with kids said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Ag with kids said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Teslag said:


Quote:

And please answer my question, Are you for giving Ukraine permission to make advanced weapons strike into Russia?

I literally quoted your question and said yes in the previous post.

And define "win".


This is what everyone that has been opposed to Ukraine funding has said from the get go.

The Ukraine fanboys need to define the terms of victory.

Period

Yall are the ones begging for unlimited aid and escalation.

So YOU tell US what the goals are here.

It's not our job to tell you what we want accomplished because we are against funding this **** show.

The onus is on YOU to tell us WHY the investment of untraceable money amd material is necessary, what the goals are, and how a "win" would be defined.

Per usual, u have this assbackwards my dude.


Who is saying this?
Nobody that I know. It's a strawman.


Actually the fact that Ukrainian aid is attached to almost every bill that touches the floor of congress and when we call out such things the Teslag crew calls us Putin Fanboys is pretty much proof that the Warhawks and neocons on here want unlimited Ukrainian Aid.

If you have spent anytime at all reading this thread you will have seen that there are two major camps.

1) calls for moderation, oversight of aid, deescalation, and peace agreement.

2) the other calls for aid without oversight, and whatever it takes to stack Russian bodies.

I have consistently taken side 1
Teslag et al. Have consistently taken side 2 and defended every aid package put before the congressional floor.


None of what you said equals the below.

Quote:

Yall are the ones begging for unlimited aid and escalation.


Would you like to try again? Or maybe just admit that you made it up?


So if you're not "begging for unlimited aid" as he wrote, when/where did you define your desired cap in aid? If you haven't made that clear, could you quantify how much aid you think should be sent and what your dollar limit is?

I could find "as long as it takes" style posts in the ole bookmarks if you're going to pretend that hasn't been a consistent theme in this thread.
So, if there is not an explicit dollar limit, then it's "unlimited"? As in infinite?

That's inane. Here's an example:

How much will you spend in your life on tacos? If you can't tell me an exact dollar amount, then you're willing to spend an unlimited amount on tacos.


Less then $10 per week. That wasn't hard.

Whats your limit on aid? If you can't provide one, it's completely reasonable to assume you're asking for unlimited money, because you are.


He said posters are "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Seems easy to find evidence of that, and yet there is none. Just another strawman.


The evidence is 200 pages of calling for more aid without defining a limit to that aid.

If someone defined the limit and I missed it, you could show me where they did so and I'd agree with you.


You can make whatever logic leap to support your usual vague trolling arguments that you'd like. Meanwhile, back in the real world where actual words matter, I'll continue to wait for that poster to quote someone "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Guessing I'll be waiting awhile.


Then show/tell us the limit. Unlimited means "without limit"

Nothing vague about this: if you can't define the limit then "unlimited" is an accurate description.


That poster didn't say "they won't give a limit on how much/how long the aid will go." He literally said posters are "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." I'm just looking for any evidence of that. I'm guessing he hasn't defended the comment because he knows he made it up.


There's 250 pages of evidence.

Begging for unlimited aid means begging for aid without a limit.

Can you show me where anyone has provided a limit? Without a limit = unlimited. I thought you were the "words matter" guy. What gives?


If there are 250 pages it should be easy to find one post where someone is "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Can you share one?

And no, someone supporting the current aid does not equal "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." By your logic if I said "I'm going for a run today" but don't say how long that would automatically mean I'm literally running forever. Usually your weird semantics trolling is better than this.


You have demonstrated you don't know what unlimited means with this statement. "My how the mighty have fallen from "words matter"

Unlimited means without limit, not infinity.


Quote:

Usually your weird semantics trolling is better than this.



Its not semantics trolling. You just misunderstood "begging for unlimited aid" to mean "begging for infinite aid". Don't sweat it though, everyone makes mistakes. I'm glad we could clear it up.

When you're ready to quantify the limit on aid, let me know. Until then- it is without limit (unlimited)
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
J. Walter Weatherman
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

Ag with kids said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Ag with kids said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Teslag said:


Quote:

And please answer my question, Are you for giving Ukraine permission to make advanced weapons strike into Russia?

I literally quoted your question and said yes in the previous post.

And define "win".


This is what everyone that has been opposed to Ukraine funding has said from the get go.

The Ukraine fanboys need to define the terms of victory.

Period

Yall are the ones begging for unlimited aid and escalation.

So YOU tell US what the goals are here.

It's not our job to tell you what we want accomplished because we are against funding this **** show.

The onus is on YOU to tell us WHY the investment of untraceable money amd material is necessary, what the goals are, and how a "win" would be defined.

Per usual, u have this assbackwards my dude.


Who is saying this?
Nobody that I know. It's a strawman.


Actually the fact that Ukrainian aid is attached to almost every bill that touches the floor of congress and when we call out such things the Teslag crew calls us Putin Fanboys is pretty much proof that the Warhawks and neocons on here want unlimited Ukrainian Aid.

If you have spent anytime at all reading this thread you will have seen that there are two major camps.

1) calls for moderation, oversight of aid, deescalation, and peace agreement.

2) the other calls for aid without oversight, and whatever it takes to stack Russian bodies.

I have consistently taken side 1
Teslag et al. Have consistently taken side 2 and defended every aid package put before the congressional floor.


None of what you said equals the below.

Quote:

Yall are the ones begging for unlimited aid and escalation.


Would you like to try again? Or maybe just admit that you made it up?


So if you're not "begging for unlimited aid" as he wrote, when/where did you define your desired cap in aid? If you haven't made that clear, could you quantify how much aid you think should be sent and what your dollar limit is?

I could find "as long as it takes" style posts in the ole bookmarks if you're going to pretend that hasn't been a consistent theme in this thread.
So, if there is not an explicit dollar limit, then it's "unlimited"? As in infinite?

That's inane. Here's an example:

How much will you spend in your life on tacos? If you can't tell me an exact dollar amount, then you're willing to spend an unlimited amount on tacos.


Less then $10 per week. That wasn't hard.

Whats your limit on aid? If you can't provide one, it's completely reasonable to assume you're asking for unlimited money, because you are.


He said posters are "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Seems easy to find evidence of that, and yet there is none. Just another strawman.


The evidence is 200 pages of calling for more aid without defining a limit to that aid.

If someone defined the limit and I missed it, you could show me where they did so and I'd agree with you.


You can make whatever logic leap to support your usual vague trolling arguments that you'd like. Meanwhile, back in the real world where actual words matter, I'll continue to wait for that poster to quote someone "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Guessing I'll be waiting awhile.


Then show/tell us the limit. Unlimited means "without limit"

Nothing vague about this: if you can't define the limit then "unlimited" is an accurate description.


That poster didn't say "they won't give a limit on how much/how long the aid will go." He literally said posters are "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." I'm just looking for any evidence of that. I'm guessing he hasn't defended the comment because he knows he made it up.


There's 250 pages of evidence.

Begging for unlimited aid means begging for aid without a limit.

Can you show me where anyone has provided a limit? Without a limit = unlimited. I thought you were the "words matter" guy. What gives?


If there are 250 pages it should be easy to find one post where someone is "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Can you share one?

And no, someone supporting the current aid does not equal "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." By your logic if I said "I'm going for a run today" but don't say how long that would automatically mean I'm literally running forever. Usually your weird semantics trolling is better than this.


You have demonstrated you don't know what unlimited means with this statement. "My how the mighty have fallen from "words matter"

Unlimited means without limit, not infinity.


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Usually your weird semantics trolling is better than this.



Its not semantics trolling. You just misunderstood "begging for unlimited aid" to mean "begging for infinite aid". Don't sweat it though, everyone makes mistakes. I'm glad we could clear it up.

When you're ready to quantify the limit on aid, let me know. Until then- it is without limit (unlimited)


Sounds good. When you're ready to find someone "begging for unlimited aid and escalation" in apparently "240 pages" of people doing so I'll happily answer your question. Tesla stating a fact "the aid was approved and will continue" does not mean he's "begging for unlimited aid and escalation." Or maybe when Ags4DaWin comes back to the thread he can admit he just made it up and we can move on, and hopefully back to nortex copy/pasting tweets from his morning RT.com email blast.
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Most prostitutes in the Middle East and even in Western Europe are funneled from Russia and Eastern Europe.
Just curious how you know this> Would like your source.

I lived in the Middle East for 9 years.

Ukraine is well known as the trafficking sent for such things. WELL KNOWN
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Maybe he has high level sources he just can't disclose
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They also throw people out windows or send them to Siberia for saying anything negative about the government. So pure.
I would like your source for that as well?

But of course we don't have any political prisoners here do we?

We don't lock up simpletons who actually had the fences removed and invited into the capital on Jan 6th as insurrectionist do we? Nah we don't do that.

And we don't ever do any law fare against political canidates who they are afraid of, NAH we never do that.

And our FBI and CIA would never create a lie about Russian interference in our election all the will hiding Hunter Biden's lap top. Nah we are just this noble and righteious.

Please. pull your head out. !
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They also throw people out windows or send them to Siberia for saying anything negative about the government. So pure.
I would like your source for that as well?

But of course we don't have any political prisoners here do we?

We don't lock up simpletons who actually had the fences removed and invited into the capital on Jan 6th as insurrectionist do we? Nah we don't do that.

And we don't ever do any law fare against political canidates who they are afraid of, NAH we never do that.

And our FBI and CIA would never create a lie about Russian interference in our election all the will hiding Hunter Biden's lap top. Nah we are just this noble and righteious.

Please. pull your head out. !


2 minutes of googling brought up more examples than I can count, didn't know this was even debated and not even sure Putin would deny it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/27/history-killing-how-russia-has-silenced-putins-opponents

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-critics-dead-full-list-navalny-1870692

https://cis.mit.edu/publications/magazine/fear-and-pattern-political-killing-russia
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The aid has been approved and will continue does NOT indicate when and where it will be capped.
Not to mention how much of these funds are being sent of to Dubai. Or allocated for Zelensky to buy an estate in Italy

Nah, just good clean funds all for the aid of noble Ukraine. Geez!
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Teslag said:

The limit is when Putin decides it's no longer necessary


I know. Thank you for confirming it is unlimited.


Despite your sources believing him to be a deity, I assure you he is mortal and will die some day.
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Most prostitutes in the Middle East and even in Western Europe are funneled from Russia and Eastern Europe.
Just curious how you know this> Would like your source.

I lived in the Middle East for 9 years.

Ukraine is well known as the trafficking sent for such things. WELL KNOWN


Then you'd know it's actually Romania.
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Teslag did not state and end point, a cap, or a goal at which point the aid would or should stop. Just that it will continue.


When Ukraine is in NATO and this is ended for good.
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And when you're asked "how do you know", you claim you can't show your sources...
I have already addressed this and you just do not want to hear it.

I said, I could take you personally by the hand, introduce you to my "sources" and you would not believe them anyway.

In any case I have also said I am not Hillary Clinton, I am assuming that you may know what I mean by that, but maybe you don't.
Hillary almost single handidly led to the death and exposure of many of our best CIA operatives. I think she did it on purpose.
I will not do that, not only will I not do that, I won't even mess around with which agencies or military branches I am getting stuff from, NOPE ain't going there. Especially not for you or Teslag or guys on this board.

I will say that I myself have worked directly with very high level officials in both the CIA and the FBI.

I will leave it at that.
Okie dokie.
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Ag with kids said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Ag with kids said:

J. Walter Weatherman said:

Ags4DaWin said:

Teslag said:


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And please answer my question, Are you for giving Ukraine permission to make advanced weapons strike into Russia?

I literally quoted your question and said yes in the previous post.

And define "win".


This is what everyone that has been opposed to Ukraine funding has said from the get go.

The Ukraine fanboys need to define the terms of victory.

Period

Yall are the ones begging for unlimited aid and escalation.

So YOU tell US what the goals are here.

It's not our job to tell you what we want accomplished because we are against funding this **** show.

The onus is on YOU to tell us WHY the investment of untraceable money amd material is necessary, what the goals are, and how a "win" would be defined.

Per usual, u have this assbackwards my dude.


Who is saying this?
Nobody that I know. It's a strawman.


Actually the fact that Ukrainian aid is attached to almost every bill that touches the floor of congress and when we call out such things the Teslag crew calls us Putin Fanboys is pretty much proof that the Warhawks and neocons on here want unlimited Ukrainian Aid.

If you have spent anytime at all reading this thread you will have seen that there are two major camps.

1) calls for moderation, oversight of aid, deescalation, and peace agreement.

2) the other calls for aid without oversight, and whatever it takes to stack Russian bodies.

I have consistently taken side 1
Teslag et al. Have consistently taken side 2 and defended every aid package put before the congressional floor.


None of what you said equals the below.

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Yall are the ones begging for unlimited aid and escalation.


Would you like to try again? Or maybe just admit that you made it up?


So if you're not "begging for unlimited aid" as he wrote, when/where did you define your desired cap in aid? If you haven't made that clear, could you quantify how much aid you think should be sent and what your dollar limit is?

I could find "as long as it takes" style posts in the ole bookmarks if you're going to pretend that hasn't been a consistent theme in this thread.
So, if there is not an explicit dollar limit, then it's "unlimited"? As in infinite?

That's inane. Here's an example:

How much will you spend in your life on tacos? If you can't tell me an exact dollar amount, then you're willing to spend an unlimited amount on tacos.


Less then $10 per week. That wasn't hard.

Whats your limit on aid? If you can't provide one, it's completely reasonable to assume you're asking for unlimited money, because you are.
What are you, communist? Less than $10/wk on tacos? Now I know why you're a Russia supporter. ;^)

I think we should give Ukraine the money they need to continue to defend themselves until Putin realizes this is futile.

That is not an unlimited amount.
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Then you'd know it's actually Romania.
Your source?

And actually, prosititution is one thing. Kidnapping and sex trafficking's is something all together different.

in reality the US is the larges sex trafficker in the world today and know one comes close.

The "fighting Epstein's" as I call them working through NGO's like the Clinton Foundation and others.

This happens to be my field by the way.
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Okie dokie.
Point proven.
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And all your source are controlled media. Geez, do better
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And all your source are controlled media. Geez, do better



Yes, the entire world is wrong and only your super top secret sources are correct. Perfect.
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OPAG said:

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They also throw people out windows or send them to Siberia for saying anything negative about the government. So pure.
I would like your source for that as well?

But of course we don't have any political prisoners here do we?

We don't lock up simpletons who actually had the fences removed and invited into the capital on Jan 6th as insurrectionist do we? Nah we don't do that.

And we don't ever do any law fare against political canidates who they are afraid of, NAH we never do that.

And our FBI and CIA would never create a lie about Russian interference in our election all the will hiding Hunter Biden's lap top. Nah we are just this noble and righteious.

Please. pull your head out. !


2 minutes of googling brought up more examples than I can count, didn't know this was even debated and not even sure Putin would deny it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/27/history-killing-how-russia-has-silenced-putins-opponents

https://www.newsweek.com/putin-critics-dead-full-list-navalny-1870692

https://cis.mit.edu/publications/magazine/fear-and-pattern-political-killing-russia


Like I said...un...hinged. Proceed at your own risk.
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Then you'd know it's actually Romania.
Your source?

And actually, prosititution is one thing. Kidnapping and sex trafficking's is something all together different.

in reality the US is the larges sex trafficker in the world today and know one comes close.

The "fighting Epstein's" as I call them working through NGO's like the Clinton Foundation and others.

This happens to be my field by the way.



DW documentary on prostitution. Currently 60% of prostitutes in Europe are Romanian alone. Next highest is Bulgarian.
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Just in time for election season, as expected.



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Good.
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Good.


Let's GO!!!
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GAC06 said:

Have ATACMS been used within Russia? Seems pretty clear there are restrictions in place.


Using Occams Razor, Ukrainian incompetence is a much more viable explanation IMO.


I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
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Just in time for election season, as expected.




Why are we arming the Ukes and then tying one hand behind their backs?
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Because WW3 is not a 'fun' prospective war, despite the propaganda to the contrary. It's really horrifying to compare this to WW1 expectations of imminent victory by the Brits etc, before a generationally destructive war.

The other side(s) also can 'take the handcuffs off.' It's not a small coincidence, fyi, we have zero carriers in the pacific for the first time since the 30's. Bravado about 'yay, let's burn some refineries down (and spike the price of oil/gas/energy)' is often quite short sighted/immature.

Separately, F-16 scapegoat, identified:
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