University of Idaho - 4 college students murdered

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aggiehawg said:

Wait, either the floor plans that we have seen is wrong or there is a mistake repeated several times about one of the surviving roommate's bedroom being on the second floor. I thought both of the survivors' bedrooms were on the first floor?
This has been debated for a while There were two bedrooms on each floor, and people have assumed two survivors were on the bottom, but for those following the case, it has always been known that there was a room on the second floor and it was possible that one of the survivors was there. That has turned out to be true.

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Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

Everyone is freaking out that the roommate (DM) saw him and didn't do anything until the morning.. that is curious and needs to be dealt with.. but the bigger news is.. .WE HAVE AN EYE WITNESS. And her description of him, given before he was identified, matched.

This dude is toast.
That description is pretty vague and probably fits 25% or more of all young males in the two communities.

Her identification is that he was masked, had bushy eyebrows, and was slender. Not a lot of specifics.
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…and she slept until mid morning?!

WTF DID SHE THINK HE WAS DOING THERE?!
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TexasRebel said:

…and she slept until mid morning?!

WTF DID SHE THINK HE WAS DOING THERE?!
Could be a normal thing at that house (late visitors).

They also reported door dash was delivered at 4 AM, so doesn't sound like it was out of the ordinary.

Bigger question is... why did he see her and not make her victim number five?
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It says the killer walked right past her while she was in a frozen state?!?!? How did she not do anything for 8 hours? Especially after hearing the dog barking and people crying, etc.

I don't get any of this. So the murders happened after 4:00 am, instead of 3:00 am. Xana ordered a door dash at 4:00 am? So they must have still been up. So did the killer kill them while they were awake?

I'm confused....
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I don't see anything about her sleeping til 12
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not hedge said:

I don't see anything about her sleeping til 12
911 call was placed then so assumption is they slept til then
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Gotcha
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I am baffled about the timeline for the surviving roommate, always have been, even more so now that I know she saw the guy.

But read the affidavit, this is excellent police work. They had their guy 12 days after the murder.
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Looks like they just matched the data with online databases and did not get the original dna there.
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apparently the 2 victims on the 3rd floor were found in the same room

perhaps one came to the other's defense or tried to
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Sounds like the girls who lived here are used to men coming and going at odd hours (sorority girls), she was more than likely intoxicated if I had to guess.
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not hedge said:

Sounds like the girls who lived here are used to men coming and going at odd hours (sorority girls), she was more than likely intoxicated if I had to guess.
Not a good eyewitness if she was hammered.
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W said:

apparently the 2 victims on the 3rd floor were found in the same room

perhaps one came to the other's defense or tried to
I think they were probably sleeping in the same room. Kaylee was moving out, so may not have had her bed setup, or maybe just wanted to sleep in her best friend's bed. Put the dog in her room, and then went and jumped in bed with Maddie.
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True, the roommate is getting absolutely destroyed on Twitter and reddit. Makes sense why the parents of the victims haven't reached out to the survivors, crazy world man
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the Door Dash person...almost got caught up in everything.

missed the killer by a few minutes it seems

at least he or she helped to fix the timeline of events
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not hedge said:

Sounds like the girls who lived here are used to men coming and going at odd hours (sorority girls), she was more than likely intoxicated if I had to guess.


But it says she claims she was "frozen in shock". This isn't like she was startled by some one night stand and then calmed down. To me this implies she was scared enough to be frozen then locked the door. Then she went back to bed?!?! Plus he walked right by her while the door was open and just left instead of killing her, leaving an eye witness?? That doesn't make sense, at all.

Major tin foil hat: what if one or both of the roommates were accomplices?
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Nanomachines son said:



Looks like they just matched the data with online databases and did not get the original dna there.
They may have been the second confirmation DNA sample.

Even when genetic genealogy points out a suspect, police typically get another sample to confirm.
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Starting to lean towards that, what possible motive could they have to be a conspirer in all this
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Seems very strange for the killer to leave the sheath next to a body and then to walk right by a frozen roommate. Any chance this stuff was planted/made up to help get the guy they thought did it?
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It is weird. There's a good chance it was dark and he didn't see her through a cracked door.
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Bird Poo said:

not hedge said:

Sounds like the girls who lived here are used to men coming and going at odd hours (sorority girls), she was more than likely intoxicated if I had to guess.
Not a good eyewitness if she was hammered.
She was frozen in terror, according to the affidavit. She said she heard tears and crying. So still perplexing the 6-7 hour delay before coming out.

I am not a psychlogist and have never been a what must have been a terrifying, it is possible someone could be so frozen from fear they would hole up in their room that long? Or she really was drunk and passed out after that happened?

It's a big mystery, but to me doesn't really matter. All the cell phone data and the DNA, the knife sheath as the source and the match to the father's DNA in the family trash in Pennsylvania... he's caught. Don't need the eye witness information.
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A sheath is usually attached to your body. People typically use one to free up your hands. I think it was ripped off and he didn't realize it during the struggles. After which, it was too late to retrieve it?
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nukeaggie2000 said:

Seems very strange for the killer to leave the sheath next to a body and then to walk right by a frozen roommate. Any chance this stuff was planted/made up to help get the guy they thought did it?
There is always somebody who wants to take a different road. Helpful sometimes, but come on man. You would be defense attorney's dream juror.
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To much circumstantial evidence besides the sheath, phone records, phone pings, car movement, etc… the sheath was just the final nail in the coffin. Starting to also think one of the girls or both were in on it
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Did the public/TexAgs know about the Ka-Bar during all the discussion earlier in the case? Did police already announce it was a Ka-Bar sheath?
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I have no idea what being in shock would do to you. Maybe she was in shock, and woke up the next morning thinking it was all a dream
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AggiePetro07 said:

Did the public/TexAgs know about the Ka-Bar during all the discussion earlier in the case? Did police already announce it was a Ka-Bar sheath?
They said in the beginning they were looking for a Ka-Bar type knife.
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AggiePetro07 said:

Did the public/TexAgs know about the Ka-Bar during all the discussion earlier in the case? Did police already announce it was a Ka-Bar sheath?
Yes the early reporting was that a Ka-Bar was the suspected weapon.
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WTF to all that????
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girlfriend_experience said:

I am always wrong said:

This is honestly just hilarious to me. Also, his sister is hot.

https://nypost.com/2023/01/05/bryan-kohbergers-sister-starred-in-horror-film/
Hot? You need to re-calibrate your scale.

fe-male version of Bryan.

Also, are they Jews?
WTF why are you asking if he is Jewish?!?

what does that have to do with anything?

do you know a lot of jews who have the name CHRISTOPHER as their middle name?
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W said:

the Door Dash person...almost got caught up in everything.

missed the killer by a few minutes it seems

at least he or she helped to fix the timeline of events
I know. That person has to have the eeriest feeling. Other than the girl who had the killer walk past her right after the killing.
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Crazy Theory, one of roommates made deal with BK to kill other roommates because of jealousy? Would make the "is anybody else arrested" sentence make sense
tk for tu juan
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Drove back to Moscow and the scene at 9am? Why?
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Thanks Hawg and RedCrayon.
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