Honest question for election deniers

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No meaningful data showing more Democrats voted by mail.
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I know, let's vote online using blockchain....

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"real-time results"
"live vote count"
"I saw it live"
"ballot count"

Two years later this still needs to be repeated:

CNN, AP, Fox, 538, etc. do not "report" official ballot tabulation.

Media predict winners with models built from pre-election surveys, demographic data, election day exit polls, partial unofficial county results, etc.
https://tips.fbi.gov/
1-800-225-5324
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The Democratic Party in partnership with the CCP (CCP was busted printing ballots at the embassy in Houston) stuffed the ballot boxes with funding help from Facebook as well

The world needs mean tweets

My Pronouns Ultra and MAGA

Trump 2024
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How have old folks voted for the last 40 years, they voted early! Get a relative, get Uber, get a friend etc….

If you are bed ridden and can't get out of the hospital or nursing home then you a are allowed to absentee vote which has been done by mail and can continue to be done by mail, but it has to be mailed at least 4 weeks before Election Day.

This is really not hard. We need to be transparent you early vote or mail in vote when absolutely necessary, those most be collected and protected and those people should not be allowed to then vote again on a machine on Election Day.
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81MM*
Pro tip: *stolen election
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Why did the counties with irregular election night results all get a ton of money from Facebook? Pure coincidence?
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Obviously that money was just out of the kindness of ole Zuck's heart so those counties could feed the homeless.
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OP, the thing you need to remember always is what Trump said from the beginning - Mar 14, 2019 "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn't lose any voters, okay?"

So attempting to understand THAT mindset is a heroic effort, but ultimately a fruitless one.

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There's zero chance that Biden received ~20% more votes than Obama and Clinton did in '08, '12 and '16 without mail-in voting and/or ballot harvesting. The dems coordinated this effort so well that it worked. They almost got caught (correction, they got caught but no one cared to investigate). They'll do it again. If the Republicans don't want to be thrown into political oblivion, they better be ready.
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Artorias said:

As soon as you explain these...






So, OP, no reply to these? I was watching election night, following this data and thought "What the actual f###?! Thus is rigged!"
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AggieCo2023 said:

I know most of you strongly disagree with me but I'm actually curious and wanted y'all's opinion.

1. If the Democratic Party is so powerful and rife with corruption to the point they were able to "create" 81 million votes, why do they only use this power on selective occasions. Why did they elect to lose house seats in 2020, keep a tie in the senate, and lose most state wide elections such as Governors. If they're able to defraud their way to victory with ease why not do it more often?

2. I also hear many people on here complain on how all the institutions are overrun with liberals from the schools to the colleges to Big Business to the government. Y'all say the highly populated cities are packed with ignorant liberals. My question is if you believe there are so many liberals in every position of power and in the major cities why would it be a surprise that Democrats get a lot of votes for the Presidency?


What do you do for a living?
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Old McDonald said:

1. mail in ballots take longer to count and tabulate than in-person ballots
2. urban districts with high populations take longer to count and report mail ballots because of the sheer volume relative to other districts
3. due to partisan messaging, mail in ballots were disproportionately cast by people voting for democrats, and in-person disproportionately for republicans
4. republican state legislatures in MI and WI made it so mail ballots could not be counted until election day, thereby artificially making it so mail ballot tabulations would lag behind day-of in person ballots (and creating the impression of an early trump lead)
5. on election day, red districts with majority in-person and comparatively few ballots generally get reported faster. large urban districts with lots of mail ballots cast for democrats take longer to tabulate, then when they get reported it looks like a big blue jump because 1) there are a lot of votes in these districts and 2) they break overwhelmingly for dems
6. Xerox machine go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, and that takes time.
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College students write a short code to change ballot pixels before the images are stored.

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How do I watch 2000 mules?
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Might want to ask AG Barr what he thinks... inconclusive. But fun!
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PabloSerna said:

Might want to ask AG Barr what he thinks... inconclusive. But fun!

Barr was lying through his teeth on that. He knows full well the FBI uses geolocation very often.
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That's what he was talking about precisely. His words, under oath - not mine - not yours.

Actually said, "Indefensible" - check it out

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i-miss-the-republic said:

Artorias said:

As soon as you explain these...






So, OP, no reply to these? I was watching election night, following this data and thought "What the actual f###?! Thus is rigged!"

Election deniers don't care about replies or they would have noticed them. There were multiple.

Sec of States and election commissioners have bent over backwards to answer people's questions. The people still asking don't care to listen.
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AggieCo2023 said:

I know most of you strongly disagree with me but I'm actually curious and wanted y'all's opinion.

1. If the Democratic Party is so powerful and rife with corruption to the point they were able to "create" 81 million votes, why do they only use this power on selective occasions. Why did they elect to lose house seats in 2020, keep a tie in the senate, and lose most state wide elections such as Governors. If they're able to defraud their way to victory with ease why not do it more often?

2. I also hear many people on here complain on how all the institutions are overrun with liberals from the schools to the colleges to Big Business to the government. Y'all say the highly populated cities are packed with ignorant liberals. My question is if you believe there are so many liberals in every position of power and in the major cities why would it be a surprise that Democrats get a lot of votes for the Presidency?
#1 there isn't 81M fake votes. Just enough fake votes, switched votes, or Trump votes deleted to swing 3-5 states. Its NOT just democrats but those in on the take or not important enough to risk the big picture to steal ALL.

#2 we are a republic or used to be. Its not supposed to be the popular vote. FWIW were also not surprised idiots or corrupt vote for idiots or other corrupt, not just in the number the way it occurred in 2020.....or even 2022.
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One of the interesting things that came out of the Jan 6th hearings is that there were two camps advising President Trump. As one of the witnesses' put - "Camp Crazy" and "The Staff."

One was hired based on their credentials. The other was able to bend his ear because they told him what he wanted to hear (my opinion).

One had skins on the wall, they were highly qualified, maybe over qualified. The other not so much.

Trump, opted to hitch his legacy with one and not the other. For better or worse.
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PabloSerna said:

One of the interesting things that came out of the Jan 6th hearings is that there were two camps advising President Trump. As one of the witnesses' put - "Camp Crazy" and "The Staff."

One was hired based on their credentials. The other was able to bend his ear because they told him what he wanted to hear (my opinion).

One had skins on the wall, they were highly qualified, maybe over qualified. The other not so much.

Trump, opted to hitch his legacy with one and not the other. For better or worse.
Watch this for awhile.

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That's like 5 hours. Can you give me some idea?
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aggiehawg said:

PabloSerna said:

One of the interesting things that came out of the Jan 6th hearings is that there were two camps advising President Trump. As one of the witnesses' put - "Camp Crazy" and "The Staff."

One was hired based on their credentials. The other was able to bend his ear because they told him what he wanted to hear (my opinion).

One had skins on the wall, they were highly qualified, maybe over qualified. The other not so much.

Trump, opted to hitch his legacy with one and not the other. For better or worse.
Watch this for awhile.




That's a whole lot of Debbies.
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Forum Troll said:

aggiehawg said:

PabloSerna said:

One of the interesting things that came out of the Jan 6th hearings is that there were two camps advising President Trump. As one of the witnesses' put - "Camp Crazy" and "The Staff."

One was hired based on their credentials. The other was able to bend his ear because they told him what he wanted to hear (my opinion).

One had skins on the wall, they were highly qualified, maybe over qualified. The other not so much.

Trump, opted to hitch his legacy with one and not the other. For better or worse.
Watch this for awhile.




That's a whole lot of Debbies.

reminds me of the Johnsons...

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AggieCo2023 said:

I know most of you strongly disagree with me but I'm actually curious and wanted y'all's opinion.

1. If the Democratic Party is so powerful and rife with corruption to the point they were able to "create" 81 million votes, why do they only use this power on selective occasions. Why did they elect to lose house seats in 2020, keep a tie in the senate, and lose most state wide elections such as Governors. If they're able to defraud their way to victory with ease why not do it more often?

2. I also hear many people on here complain on how all the institutions are overrun with liberals from the schools to the colleges to Big Business to the government. Y'all say the highly populated cities are packed with ignorant liberals. My question is if you believe there are so many liberals in every position of power and in the major cities why would it be a surprise that Democrats get a lot of votes for the Presidency?


I think they (The DEMs) actually f'd it up and exposed the fraud themselves with all the statistical anomolies created from Biden getting 81 million votes. Do you think we will ever see another Presidential race with that many voters in the next couple of decades?

We have never seen an incumbent lose and actually gain votes from their previous election. We have never seen an election where a candidate won and didn't steal votes from the incumbents base. We have never seen an election where an incumbent lost and dang near everyone he backed, put his stamp of approval on, won their races...
Thats how a lot of fraud cases start in the corporate world right, numbers and anomolies that don't make sense, statistical anomolies that warrant thorough investigation? Anyone who knows a damn thing about politics will tell you it is very hard to beat an incumbent, especially, an incumbent that had the economy rolling like a well oiled machine like Trump did at one point...Those kind of incumbents are impossible to beat.

All of the many many anomolies showing up in the election point to fraud, but fraud is very hard to prove. You definitely aren't going to prove it in a few months; especially when critical evidence gets trashed (the envelopes with the signatures that the mail in ballots come in), and you can't really talk to voters to find out who they voted for due to privacy issues, and the people running the election (Dominion) refuse to give up the code, logs, database, etc to investigate.

The whole thing is ripe for fraud.
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PabloSerna said:

That's like 5 hours. Can you give me some idea?

Just regular people from different counties in Georgia who were witnesses to massive fookery when they were election workers. During the recount in Cobb County, for instance, it was taking place at a county fairground, not a secure government location. The ballots had been moved there for the recount. On the back side of that building was a mobile shredding truck shredding documents coming out of the back. Two people witnessed it, one filmed it and called 911 to get the police or sheriffs office to come out. No response. So they went to the station after following the trucks to confirm where they were located to make their report. Were told the police were instructed to stand down regarding anything election related. Georgia Bureau of Investigation was supposedly going to do an investigation. Call the GBI, "thank you or your submission." And that was it. Nothing else.

Nearly all of these people testifying made repeated entreaties to the Sec of State's office with no response.

Suzi Voyles had been an election worker for 20 years in Fulton County before 2020. When she raised her concerns about pristine ballots, no folds that were all for Biden, she was subsequently fired from Fulton County.

There was a lawyer, Cheeley, who filed a FOIA to inspect ballots, which is allowed under Georgia law. He came to an "agreement" with Fulton County election head Barron to scan ballots using Jovan Pulitzer's process at a time, date and location certain. At his own his expense, he had people from his firm, lawyers, said machines, showed up as directed, ballots were not there. Called again and were redirected to another location. Repacks everything up and goes there. The people at the location have no idea of what they were talking about. Finally after many wasted hours, he is told to go get a court order to see the ballots.

Ultimately, that lawyer did get a judge to allow a low resolution image of 140,000 absentee ballots in Fulton County, in spring 2021 when it was far too late. That same judge orally ruled after an evidentiary hearing regarding the results of that review, to get a higher resolution scan, only for that judge to come back months later and dismiss the case. (Still on appeal but all of the docs and images will be destroyed next month.)

But if you really want to be honest with yourself, watch a few hours. These people are not professionals delivering dry remarks, they are visibly shaken, angry, trying to do the right thing and see something say something but they are being dismissed and ignored.

I watched dozens and dozens of hours of hearings, depositions, testimony, etc. Hundreds of witnesses from a myriad of states. The stories all meshed of the many of the same things happened over and over again.

How it happened I just discovered about the EBU persons being known to Soros related and Zuck related Dem operatives but the states who participate in ERIC cannot provide that information without violating federal law. It's rigged completely.
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I think they (The DEMs) actually f'd it up and exposed the fraud themselves with all the statistical anomolies created from Biden getting 81 million votes. Do you think we will ever see another Presidential race with that many voters in the next couple of decades?
Yes. Read both articles and you will see why:

HERE

And

HERE

The potential for fraud by solely Dems is contained therein. Really, read them and digest it.
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aggiehawg said:

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I think they (The DEMs) actually f'd it up and exposed the fraud themselves with all the statistical anomolies created from Biden getting 81 million votes. Do you think we will ever see another Presidential race with that many voters in the next couple of decades?
Yes. Read both articles and you will see why:

HERE

And

HERE

The potential for fraud by solely Dems is contained therein. Really, read them and digest it.


I have previously read both of those, scary stuff.

At this point, I really don't want Trump to run again. I think enough people (Independents) have been brainwashed to the point that he actually might not get their votes like he did in the past. It's not that I don't like Trump, I just think it's risky for him to run again and the corrupt establishment will never let him win again no matter what it takes. He's like Hillary Clinton now (not as corrupt as her), but a very polarizing figure that will likely lose votes because of it... I guess I would prefer De Santis at this point..
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At this point, I really don't want Trump to run again. I think enough people (Independents) have been brainwashed to the point that he actually might not get their votes like he did in the past. It's not that I don't like Trump, I just think it's risky for him to run again and the corrupt establishment will never let him win again no matter what it takes. I guess I would prefer De Santis at this point..
I'm on record as saying Trump should step back and be the kingmaker.

BUT, they will do the same to Ron, or any other Republican that is not confederate with them.

Keep eyes on Kemp and Raffensperger in Georgia as being confederate with them.
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PabloSerna said:

Might want to ask AG Barr what he thinks... inconclusive. But fun!

Obviously, you didn't watch it but you're ideologically obtuse. You got that going for you though.
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I actually posted it .. but you may have overlooked that.

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Paging GeorgiaAg! Is this normal?

Upcoming Georgia Elections Board Meeting 8/22 agenda:

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Consent Cases Case No. 2018-106 Dougherty County (Qualification of Electors) 2 Case No. 2020-168 Mitchell County (Found Ballots) 3 Case No. 2020-185 Carroll County (Unsecured Ballots) 4 Case No. 2020-210 Chatham County (Multiple Complaints) 5 Case No. 2020-211 Richmond County (Absentee Ballot Issues) 6 Case No. 2020-214 Gwinnett County (Absentee Ballot Issues) 7 Case No. 2020-225 Henry County (Public Viewing) 8 Case No. 2020-228 Fulton County (Updating of Voter Records) 9 Case No. 2020-230 Multiple Counties (Voter Registration Drives) 10 Case No. 2020-232 DeKalb County (ADA Complaints) 11 Case No. 2020-246 Dekalb County (Residency) 12

Case No. 2020-270 DeKalb County (AB Drop Box Issues) 13 Case No. 2020-286 Fulton County (Poll Watcher Issues) 14 Case No. 2021-007 Bartow County (Photographing Ballot During Voting) 15 Case No. 2021-017 Multiple County (Registration Fraud) 16 Case No. 2021-022 Fulton County (Residency Excess Voting) 17 Case No. 2021-030 Terrell County (Food for Voting) 18 Case No. 2021-037 Hall County (Absentee Ballot Fraud) 19 Case No. 2021-046 Brooks County (Voter Registration Issue) 20 Case No. 2021-069 DeKalb County (Absentee Ballot Fraud) 21 Case No. 2021-082 DeKalb County (Public Inspections) 22 Case No. 2021-087 Brooks County (Improper Processing of Absentee Ballots) 23 Case No. 2022-012 Cherokee County (Credit for Voting) 24 Case No. 2022-018 City of Midville-Burke County (Candidate Qualifying Issue) 25 Case No. 2022-023 Cherokee County (Double Voter) 26 Case No. 2022-031 Fulton County (Voter Fraud) 27 Case No. 2022-032 Hart County (Ballot Harvesting) 28 Case No. 2022-033 Forsyth County (Precinct 19 Challenged Voters) 29 Case No. 2022-039 Gordon County (Vote Buying) 30 Case No. 2022-059 Walker County (Voter Took Photograph) 31 Case No. 2022-064 DeKalb County (Vote Scan Issue) 32 Case No. 2022-065 Fulton County (Ponce Library) 33 Case No. 2022-069 Fulton County (Wolf Creek Library) 34 Case No. 2022-074 Gwinnett County (Ballot Harvesting Rainbow Track Suit) 35 Case No. 2022-087 Floyd County (Districting Issue Letter in Mailbox) 36 Case No. 2022-108 Clayton County (Ballot Harvesting) 37 Case No. 2022-113 Gwinnett County (Ballot Harvesting Black Infiniti M35) 38 Case No. 2022-114 Cobb County (Voter Fraud) 39 Case No. 2022-115 Fulton County (Districting Issue in Milton) 40 Case No. 2022-118 Fulton County (Voter Fraud Nursing Home) 41 Case No. 2022-134 Gwinnett County (Poll Manager Requirements) 42 Case No. 2022-149 Douglas County (Absentee Ballot Dropbox Outside) 43 Letter Cases Case No. 2020-123 Hancock County (Illegal Campaigning) 44 Case No. 2021-031 Thomas County (Food for Voting) 45 Case No. 2021-038 Hall County (Unqualified Voter) 46 Case No. 2021-040 Muscogee County (Voter Privacy Issue) 47 Case No. 2021-080 Carroll County (Residency Issue) 48 Case No. 2022-020 Habersham County (150 Feet Rule) 49 Case No. 2022-028 Richmond County (Voter Registration-New GA Project) 50 Case No. 2022-034 Dade County (Absentee By Mail Mailed Prior to 04/25/22) 51 Case No. 2022-048 Fulton County (Ballot Marking Device Photo) 52 Case No. 2022-105 Multi County (2022 Primary)
Violations Cases Case No. 2020-003 Sumter County (Poll Watchers) 54 Case No. 2020-029 DeKalb County (Election Issues) 55 Case No. 2020-030 Gwinnett County (Election Day Issues) 56 Case No. 2020-033 Stephens County (Procedures for Tabulation of Absentee Ballots) 57 Case No. 2020-034 Montgomery County (Duty to Secure Election Records) 58 Case No. 2020-039 Sumter County (Problems at the Polling Place) 59 Case No. 2020-048 Decatur County (Double Voters) 60 Case No. 2020-061 McIntosh County (Problems at the Poll) 61 Case No. 2020-062 Chatham County (Absentee Ballot Processing) 62 Case No. 2020-073 Troup County (Ballots Not Deposited in Scanner) 63 Case No. 2021-088 City of Arlington (Absentee Ballot Applications) 64

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VIII. ATTORNEY GENERAL REPORT Consent Orders 65 SEB 2011-059 Hancock County SEB 2016-062 Hancock County SEB 2017-074 Fulton County (City of Atlanta) SEB 2018-055 Forsyth County SEB 2019-021 Newton County SEB 2019-037 Tattnall County (City of Glennville) SEB 2020-023 Gilmer County SEB 2020-087 Bibb County SEB 2020-126 Houston County SEB 2020-199 Walton County SEB 2021-095 Taylor County Consolidated Consent Orders 66 SEB 2015-073; Hancock County (City of Sparta) 2017-043; and 2017-081 SEB 2016-090; Peach County 2018-008 Final Orders 67 SEB 2011-059 Hancock County SEB 2020-090 Catoosa County
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If Trump is so easy to beat, why are they doing anything in their power to prevent him from running?
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IslanderAg04 said:

If Trump is so easy to beat, why are they doing anything in their power to prevent him from running?
Good question.

I was not aboard the Trump Train until he became the nominee. Precisely because I wasn't sure at all he could beat Hillary.

Based upon all of deep dive into the 2020 election, it was a very targeted but Herculean effort to change the election in 2020 and they still only "won" by 40,0000+ votes in the battleground states of Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin.

But the continuing problems with the primaries in mostly those states tell me the problem still exists.
 
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