Well since you say that that happened and aren't interested in the actual data that we provided, you were right, we lose, good game. Have a great weekend.

You are gaslighting yourself, go look at the raw data dumps and not a jpg.

There is so much misinformation about how elections work because 99.9% of the country has no idea how the tools and process work. This is because it differs from state to state, and even between local entities.

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You are gaslighting yourself, go look at the raw data dumps and not a jpg.

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I watched it live.

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The concept of "cities" confuses and frightens them. Why does Milwaukee report more votes than Frog Butt County?

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Or why do they report more votes than Black Earth, Wisconsin?

Preacher just discovered the concept of cities. Don't be too harsh on him. "He saw it live"

Election night results are media reports, not real time offical results or data feeds straight from the tabulators. This is how it always is.

Oh, there were a handful of token Trump votes so it was not actually 100% for Biden? Yeah, that totally invalidates the argument.

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Preacher just discovered the concept of cities. Don't be too harsh on him. "He saw it live"

Election night results are media reports, not real time offical results or data feeds straight from the tabulators. This is how it always is.

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I saw biden get massive increases with literally zero votes for Trump.(even watched it go down) That is impossible statistically for votes to come in nearly 100% for biden, and yet I watched it happen. You're trying to convince me to pretend I didn't see it.

Your proof a blurry graph. The left can't meme.

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Oh, there were a handful of token Trump votes so it was not actually 100% for Biden? Yeah, that totally invalidates the argument.

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10-20% isn't a "token" amount. It's close to the final ratio for the whole county and perfectly normal in dense cities that are reliably blue.

Trump actually did better in Milwaukee, Detroit, and Philadelphia than he did in 2016. He lost in the suburbs. Get over it.

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I saw biden get massive increases with literally zero votes for Trump.

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Where did this happen? What are the actual numbers? It isn't good enough to vaguely remember a media created unofficial graph you saw 20 months ago.

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I saw biden get massive increases with literally zero votes for Trump.

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Where did this happen? What are the actual numbers? It isn't good enough to vaguely remember an media created unofficial graph you saw 20 months ago.

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I was watching CNN, FOX, MSNBC, TYT, ABC every outlet showed the same thing. I was watching the tallies closely. The graph i posted was official from ABC and 538, that's just the only screenshot i have. look at the date posted an you'll see. I abhor lying. I'm not making it up. If y'all actually want to convince people they are wrong, then you need to stop being dismissive, like many on here mocking.

You don't have to take my word for it. You cannot convince me that I didn't see it, and you cannot explain it away by saying "hE gOt MoRe VoTeS iN cItIeS". everyone knows it would in the end break more heavly for biden in the cities. The problem is the massive voter dumps that were nearly 100%. Its impossible that any massive dumps did that, and yet I watched it happen live. Professional auditors told me it was a red flag. Combine that with the fact that every swing state did the same thing at 3AM... I'm not the naive one here. I know you so badly want to believe that it was all legit, but I do not think it was. You can't you'll just chalk it up to it never happened, and then give me unrelated facts about the end vote tally after the fact. Im talking about the real time dumps. There is no explanation for the same "error in reporting" all happening at 3AM in all swing states at the same time.

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As soon as you explain these...

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Take a look at the second graph of Wisconsin. The huge Biden spike ALSO has a small Trump spike.

From 3:26 AM to 3:44 AM the Biden vote jumped by 149,520 votes in trumps by 31,803. The vast majority was due to Milwaukee finishing its tally. There, Biden gained 143,124 votes and Trump gained 23,642.

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As soon as you explain these...

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Take a look at the second graph of Wisconsin. The huge Biden spike ALSO has a small Trump spike.

From 3:26 AM to 3:44 AM the Biden vote jumped by 149,520 votes in trumps by 31,803. The vast majority was due to Milwaukee finishing its tally. There, Biden gained 143,124 votes and Trump gained 23,642.

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NO IT DOESNT! Not in Mich. You're lying.

and 149k to 31k is not realistic IMO.

Honest question, do you have 2020 vision? The Trump line is very clearly not a linear line that stops at the same time that Bidens goes up. It has a small jump as well. We are literally looking at the same graph and I don't know how you can come to the conclusion that the Trump line is flat. It's very obviously not flat at the time that Baden goes up.

Look at MI graph, and then tell me that a similar spike in every swing state, and only in the swing states is realistic. Many of which were 100% others nearly 100%. All unrealistically high. They should have come in similarly to the other votes.

because we didn't see these irregulates in any other state that trump won. Other states have big liberal cities too, and they had no problems mysteriously at 3AM.

I was born at night, but not last night.

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The thread title alone is enough to know the OP is not serious about a discussion regarding the 2020 election.

Toss in his post about Trump selling nuclear secrets to the Saudis and its obvious what the real intention is.

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Probably likely…but it's the same as every post that begins with 'Honest question for liberals here…' Does anyone actually believe the intent is sincere? Broaching anything resembling a contradiction to the prevailing opinions here is either attacked or just assumed to be insincere. The only integrity on F16 lies in the consensus of how the majority defined it

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In other words, "I don't like it when the big F16 meanies make me support my claims with logic, reason, and evidence!"

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No, you completely missed the point. How old are you? Is this your idea of a clever response? But hey, as long as u get some stars right?

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Take a look at the second graph of Wisconsin. The huge Biden spike ALSO has a small Trump spike.

From 3:26 AM to 3:44 AM the Biden vote jumped by 149,520 votes in trumps by 31,803. The vast majority was due to Milwaukee finishing its tally. There, Biden gained 143,124 votes and Trump gained 23,642.

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NO IT DOESNT! Not in Mich. You're lying.

and 149k to 31k is not realistic IMO.

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Milwaukee, Michigan? I haven't heard of that particular city before.

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Take a look at the second graph of Wisconsin. The huge Biden spike ALSO has a small Trump spike.

From 3:26 AM to 3:44 AM the Biden vote jumped by 149,520 votes in trumps by 31,803. The vast majority was due to Milwaukee finishing its tally. There, Biden gained 143,124 votes and Trump gained 23,642.

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NO IT DOESNT! Not in Mich. You're lying.

and 149k to 31k is not realistic IMO.

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Milwaukee, Michigan? I haven't heard of that particular city before.

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dur hur.

Some on here don't understand that even not exactly perfectly 100 percent is still a statistically IMPOSSIBLE irregularity.

Too many coincidences. No explanation given. Not suspicious at all.

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Look at MI graph, and then tell me that a similar spike in every swing state, and only in the swing states is realistic. Many of which were 100% others nearly 100%. All unrealistically high.(more like 80-90%) They should have come in similarly to the other votes.

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Why would one expect the vote ratio to be the same in Detroit as in Frog Butt County, Michigan? Have you no knowledge of political geography. Have you never watched an election before?

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And it didn't happen anywhere. That's why we're making fun of you.

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Some on here don't understand that even not exactly perfectly 100 percent is still a statistically IMPOSSIBLE irregularity.

Too many coincidences. No explanation given. Not suspicious at all.

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I think that my precinct had precisely one vote that was not for Trump -- .it went for Jorgensen By your argument, that must be impossible.

Explain how nearly all bellwether counties went to trump, and would have indicated the landslide we all saw coming till 3AM, but mysteriously we had vote dumps that would be counter intuitive, and more in line with closer elections?

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Look at MI graph, and then tell me that a similar spike in every swing state, and only in the swing states is realistic. Many of which were 100% others nearly 100%. All unrealistically high.(more like 80-90%) They should have come in similarly to the other votes.

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And it didn't happen anywhere. That's why we're making fun of you.

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Michigan.

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Some on here don't understand that even not exactly perfectly 100 percent is still a statistically IMPOSSIBLE irregularity.

Too many coincidences. No explanation given. Not suspicious at all.

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I think that my precinct had precisely one vote that was not for Trump -- .it went for Jorgensen By your argument, that must be impossible.

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That's not a county. good argument bro.

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Nope. Didn't happen. Which update? Which county?


If we suspect there were huge "vote dumps" in Detroit then we'd expect an unusually high turnout there or an unusually high Biden share.

Instead. Trump did better there in 2016 and turnout was much lower than statewide.

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Trump made the claims, without citing evidence, days after he significantly improved his performance in Detroit from 2016, while Biden did worse in the city than previous Democrats.

Turnout in Detroit this year, unlike elsewhere in the state where it rose 15 percent, was only up less than 1 percent but still below 50 percent of the more than 504,000 registered voters in the city.

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https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/trump-who-now-claims-fraud-got-more-votes-detroit-most-republicans

I notice you are yet to provide a source, other than your memory of graphs you saw on TV two years ago.

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Nope. Didn't happen. Which update? Which county?


If we suspect there were huge "vote dumps" in Detroit then we'd expect an unusually high turnout there or an unusually high Biden share.

Instead. Trump did better there in 2016 and turnout was much lower than statewide.

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Trump made the claims, without citing evidence, days after he significantly improved his performance in Detroit from 2016, while Biden did worse in the city than previous Democrats.

Turnout in Detroit this year, unlike elsewhere in the state where it rose 15 percent, was only up less than 1 percent but still below 50 percent of the more than 504,000 registered voters in the city.

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https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/trump-who-now-claims-fraud-got-more-votes-detroit-most-republicans

I notice you are yet to provide a source, other than your memory of graphs you saw on TV two years ago.

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He got more votes and lost it this time. OK....

Look at the graph in MI. It's flat. I don't need to move on until you disprove what has already been provided. I'm not convinced buy you guys saying nuh uh, then showing the final tally.

I don't believe the voter turnout lie. Biden had no enthusiasm, and the bellwether as well as the rest of the country show that these are anomalies.

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He got more votes and lost it this time.

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In Detroit/Philadelphia/Milwaukee, he did better. He lost elsewhere especially in the suburbs. Try to keep up.

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He got more votes and lost it this time.

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In Detroit/Philadelphia/Milwaukee, he did better. He lost elsewhere especially in the suburbs. Try to keep up.

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I don't care where they came from. Explain the voter dump at 3AM in MI that was nearly 100% for Biden, and the similar dump at 3AM in all swing states. Along with "broken pipes", covering windows, and overall lack of transparency.

Why did these irregularities only happen in swing states and not in the rest of the country?

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Some on here don't understand that even not exactly perfectly 100 percent is still a statistically IMPOSSIBLE irregularity.

Too many coincidences. No explanation given. Not suspicious at all.

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I think that my precinct had precisely one vote that was not for Trump -- .it went for Jorgensen By your argument, that must be impossible.

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That's not a county. good argument bro.

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Are you claiming that there were counties that went nearly 100% for Biden?

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Some on here don't understand that even not exactly perfectly 100 percent is still a statistically IMPOSSIBLE irregularity.

Too many coincidences. No explanation given. Not suspicious at all.

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I think that my precinct had precisely one vote that was not for Trump -- .it went for Jorgensen By your argument, that must be impossible.

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That's not a county. good argument bro.

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Are you claiming that there were counties that went nearly 100% for Biden?

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Do you think thats what im saying or are you deliberately giving me an uncharitable interpretation?

I dont care about the minutia i care that all of a sudden massive counties all reported all nearly 100% for Biden. I don't care what county they came from, In massive counties with that many people you wont have near 100 anything.

You only get that in little precincts.

(He won't admit it but it's because they cheated their asses off in select counties).




Ok continue the debate.

This is the problem, you should absolutely not be allowed to mail in a ballot on Election Day. You should NOT be able to vote after poll closing at a reasonable time. You have months to vote if you wait till the last possible moment you are NOT disenfranchised, you are an idiot and should not be voting. You should NOT be able to vote without a photo ID. You can't drive, fly, bank, get a loan, get Medicaid, or get welfare without a photo ID, THIS MOST BE APPLIED TO VOTING!!!! All of the game playing under the guise of disenfranchised voters creates the opportunity for the losing side to claim fraud. If you want everyone to agree with your most important federal elections it has to be done in a secure and absolute transparency.

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This is the problem, you should absolutely not be allowed to mail in a ballot on Election Day. You should NOT be able to vote after poll closing at a reasonable time. You have months to vote if you wait till the last possible moment you are NOT disenfranchised, you are an idiot and should not be voting. You should NOT be able to vote without a photo ID. You can't drive, fly, bank, get a loan, get Medicaid, or get welfare without a photo ID, THIS MOST BE APPLIED TO VOTING!!!! All of the game playing under the guise of disenfranchised voters creates the opportunity for the losing side to claim fraud. If you want everyone to agree with your most important federal elections it has to be done in a secure and absolute transparency.

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What about us old folks. We can't request our ballots in the mail and mail them in anymore ?

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This is the problem, you should absolutely not be allowed to mail in a ballot on Election Day. You should NOT be able to vote after poll closing at a reasonable time. You have months to vote if you wait till the last possible moment you are NOT disenfranchised, you are an idiot and should not be voting. You should NOT be able to vote without a photo ID. You can't drive, fly, bank, get a loan, get Medicaid, or get welfare without a photo ID, THIS MOST BE APPLIED TO VOTING!!!! All of the game playing under the guise of disenfranchised voters creates the opportunity for the losing side to claim fraud. If you want everyone to agree with your most important federal elections it has to be done in a secure and absolute transparency.

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What about us old folks. We can't request our ballots in the mail and mail them in anymore ?

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Vote early!