OP- As Lenin and Stalin said, "It is not who votes, but, who counts the votes". There is video that shows democrat's pulling suitcases out from under tables after having republican leave the building. Democrats are experts at corruption.

I reject your premise that I am a election denier.

A1: Democratic Party has cheated since the Dawn of time. How do you prove the unprovable. Do you really think Biden inspired more people to vote then Obama. Biden has just been a chump politician his entire life. Then COVID was used to create all kinds of avenues to exploit fraudulent voting. I have heard a number 40k votes in 6 key states made the difference. Of course the DP cheated.

A2: I worked for 30 years in environmental engineering for 30 years. Retired and then went to work for DOD. it was something I always wanted to do. What I didn't expect was how ingrained woke culture was in the government. Just sit thru a town hall meeting and listen to their message. As a white, older male who fits into the description as a potential white supremest because I am patriotic and white makes me feel uncomfortable. Then at the end of the town hall you leave feeling uncomfortable. So you are not necessarily surrounded by a sea of liberal…..but they are certainly empowered to make your life difficult.

Same OP troll, or dramatic failure of A&M's educators, claims it is madness that Wyoming has a many Senators as CA. Same OP troll, or dramatic failure of A&M's educators, claims to be starting as an AP government teacher in the fall.

It’s ok for the left to says there’s election fraud and unfair elections, but it’s “dangerous and could get someone killed” when others say it. pic.twitter.com/ix915JnNKj

— Hodgetwins (@hodgetwins) August 23, 2022

Some people are allowed to question things.

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As soon as you explain these...

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I am an election denier and proud of it. See above charts, 2000 Mules and many other items that have been revealed.

They’re setting up the “stolen election” excuse for November. https://t.co/leNngqfrPK

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) August 24, 2022

Oh by the way, the usual leftist mouth pieces are setting up to whine about Nov. 2022 elections as illegitimate.

Who even cares anymore? We are headed towards 3rd world status and communism under this administration. 81mm votes for Biden means we have an enormous number of incredibly brain-dead, stupid people in this nation and we deserve all the hardships we got coming. Hopefully, hard times thins the herd significantly.

My advice: Buy ammo, food, and water then pray you're able to take care of you and yours.

NM

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As soon as you explain these...

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What would you expect the curve to look like when a very heavily populated, urban, blue-leaning county reports its vote tabulation? Still a smooth curve? Almost a hundred blue stars on this post. Y'all need to go back to math class.

False dichotomy. Not morons -- just corrupt as hell.

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Oh look, GeorgiaAg making fun of his "fellow" conservatives.

Good job voting for the current disaster. No matter how many times you admit your mistake, your posts show that you have learned absolutely nothing.

I view election deniers in the same vein as flat earthers. Y'all still citing 2000 Mules when even Fox News won't play any part of it.

Biden's a moron but he somehow hoodwinked born again Jesus Trump? Why do I have to choose between incompetent socialist morons and the Cult of Trump at election time. Please nominate DeSantis '24. I'll have to vote for Trump. Yuck.

Lol and you chose socialism over mean tweets. Brilliant thinking!!!!

Also, can you name one incorrect fact that was stated in 2000 Mules? Have you even watched it?

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On July 21, 2022, there was a hearing for Lake v Hobbs in Phoenix. A witness by the name of Clay Parikh was called for the plaintiff. Parikh is the lead information systems security officer for the ground missile defense system for Northrop Grumman. Prior to that, he worked for Lockheed Martin and Leidos through their merger as the deputy cyber manager for the Army Corps of Engineers.

But it's his prior work that is of particular relevance to this case: from 2008 to 2017, he worked as a security tester and a security subject matter expert for Wyle Laboratories and Pro V&V. Parikh claims to have tested hundreds of voting systems, including the Dominion and ES&S voting machines throughout his career as part of the certification process for the EAC and Secretaries of State. He holds a CISSP certification (Certified Information System Security Professional), as well as certification as an ethical hacker and a certified hacking forensics investigator.

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Parikh later went on to say that his "best time" hacking the ES&S machines was "two and a half minutes, but averaged five to ten minutes. It really didn't matter to the vendor." I wonder how that would stack up against the hackers that flock to Las Vegas for DEFCON each year for their shot at hacking these machines! As is often reported, the hackers are more often than not successful in (quickly) hacking these machines.

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LaRue also got Parikh to confess that the testing laboratories he worked for would not let him run certain tests: "…the point I'm trying to get to is…the labs told me not to do certain tests. They will not allow me to do certain tests." Why would the testing labs try to restrict a certified tester from doing certain tests? You would think a testing lab paid by the state or local government would definitely want to ensure the machines were safe and secure no matter what testing was necessary! But that would imply that the state funds these testing labs. They don't. The voting machine vendors pay them. You read that correctly: the voting machine companies pay the testing companies to certify that the voting machine companies software is safe and secure.

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Link

Interview with Parikh is at bottom of this Link Recommended even if audio is crappy.

Bottom line, these electronic voting machines are complete crap, security wise. The accreditation companies are crap. The EAC is crap. It's all a shell game. The same people move around the chess board from one of the voting machine companies to the compliance company to EAC, CISA, and back. Checking their own "work" so to speak but in reality they don't even do that. At all. Ever.

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Bottom line, these electronic voting machines are complete crap, security wise. The accreditation companies are crap. The EAC is crap. It's all a shell game. The same people move around the chess board from one of the voting machine companies to the compliance company to EAC, CISA, and back. Checking their own "work" so to speak but in reality they don't even do that. At all. Ever.

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And yet not a single damn GOP member is introducing bills for paper balloting only until legitimate concerns are resolved.

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Bottom line, these electronic voting machines are complete crap, security wise. The accreditation companies are crap. The EAC is crap. It's all a shell game. The same people move around the chess board from one of the voting machine companies to the compliance company to EAC, CISA, and back. Checking their own "work" so to speak but in reality they don't even do that. At all. Ever.

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And yet not a single damn GOP member is introducing bills for paper balloting only until legitimate concerns are resolved.

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Diebold was basically destroyed after 2004 and rightfully so. Problem was that they never really went away, just were repackaged under another name. And it was Obama/Holder Justice Department that largely created Dominion from a small Canadian company into the behemoth it is today.

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Bottom line, these electronic voting machines are complete crap, security wise. The accreditation companies are crap. The EAC is crap. It's all a shell game. The same people move around the chess board from one of the voting machine companies to the compliance company to EAC, CISA, and back. Checking their own "work" so to speak but in reality they don't even do that. At all. Ever.

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And yet not a single damn GOP member is introducing bills for paper balloting only until legitimate concerns are resolved.

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Rigged voting helps the GOPe as well. This country would be a lot better off if everyone realized they're all one big club, and we ain't in it. Dems vs Repubs is all a show. It's the establishment vs America First.

The latest filing, a motion for Rule 11 Sanctions against Plaintiffs, will be interesting if granted. It is basically the Plaintiff's claim of election fraud are so baseless, they need to be sanctioned.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.azd.1294569/gov.uscourts.azd.1294569.97.0_2.pdf

I've still never read an explanation for why Dominion's machines use/tabulate fractions of a vote, or were connected to the internet.

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The latest filing, a motion for Rule 11 Sanctions against Plaintiffs, will be interesting if granted. It is basically the Plaintiff's claim of election fraud are so baseless, they need to be sanctioned.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.azd.1294569/gov.uscourts.azd.1294569.97.0_2.pdf

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What a crock of s***. Did you read that? They already had evidentiary hearings in this case. I posted the expert's testimony including his cross examination which was a disaster for the defence. Dominion has admitted that their BMDs create QR codes that are scanned, that is unreadable to voters. So that piece of paper doesn't allow voters to see whether or not their votes were accurately recorded.

I bet yout still believe that routers are data storage devices, too, don't you?

I haven't followed all the case. We'll see what the plaintiff's response is and how the court rules. Did they use QR codes in AR? I didn't see that mentioned but they mention the use of paper ballots. The brief also mentions that their system is not connected to the internet.

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I haven't followed all the case. We'll see what the plaintiff's response is and how the court rules. Did they use QR codes in AR? I didn't see that mentioned but they mention the use of paper ballots. The brief also mentions that their system is not connected to the internet.

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I will type this very slowly for you and put it in caps:

THEY ARE LYING.

Why wouldn't they ever turn over the routers? Because those would show that the machines were in fact internet abled and packages of information were being disseminated to and from the EMS. That was also one of the reasons a special query script was written to overwrite the server logs from days before the election up until February 2021. There is surveillance video of the unauthorized guy who did it. He used someone else's badge to illegally access the server room, complete with his phone on the dates and times the script was in use.

Dominion uses QR codes in their Democracy Suite software. They were doing "updates" right up to the election, how did they do that if nothing was connected to the internet?.

Edit: nevermind. That was a different document.

Anyone who beats trump, regardless of party, had to have cheated.

His words, not mine.

I'm not sure sure the court can craft a remedy here that would have any effect, because frankly state governments can just ignore federal court rulings now and nothing happens.

Dominion's systems are in express violation of Georgia law. Federal judge said that. Still in use.

Take 30 minutes and watch the interview of the CISSP expert, Parikh, that I posted earlier. This guy is a cyber security expert for our national missile defense system, not some retail clerk at your local Mac store or from the Geek Squad at Best Buy. His assessment is that our PCs at home are more secure than these electronic voting machines.

Doesn't that scare the crap out of you?.

In Arizona the machines are tested before the election AND after the election. It's all paper ballots. I don't see anything about QR codes or barcodes used for final tabulation

Go to the one hour thirteen minute 24 second mark.

Then one hour 36 minute mark.

Then two hours 35 minutes.

Then three hours six minutes.

Andy Biggs questioning Maricopa County Election Officials who admit to have deleted 2020 elecion files...er..."archived" them so they didn't have to turn them over under the state senate subpoena. Those "audits" you think were routinely performed before and after were not audits. And those Maricopa Election Officials couldn't find their butts with both hands.

FTR: Ken Bennett was the former Sec of State in Arizona who oversaw the Cyber Ninja forensic audit.

Then three hours 14 minutes.

ETA: Oops, missed one three hours 27 minutes

It’s ok for the left to says there’s election fraud and unfair elections, but it’s “dangerous and could get someone killed” when others say it. pic.twitter.com/ix915JnNKj

— Hodgetwins (@hodgetwins) August 23, 2022

I don't see any of the 'there's no election fraud' types (and yes that of course includes georgiag) condemning all of this which claims Trump was fraudulently elected. Weird, you partisans sure are worried only about disproving/ignoring/excusing 2020 fraud, not 2016 stuff, or your team lining up to claim 2022 is going to be fraudulent (except in Pa and NC).

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It’s ok for the left to says there’s election fraud and unfair elections, but it’s “dangerous and could get someone killed” when others say it. pic.twitter.com/ix915JnNKj

— Hodgetwins (@hodgetwins) August 23, 2022

I don't see any of the 'there's no election fraud' types (and yes that of course includes georgiag) condemning all of this which claims Trump was fraudulently elected. Weird, you partisans sure are worried only about disproving/ignoring/excusing 2020 fraud, not 2016 stuff, or your team lining up to claim 2022 is going to be fraudulent (except in Pa and NC).

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You are equating 2016 to 2020?

Trumps 2016 campaign manager was providing Russian intelligence with internal (non-public) campaign strategies and polling data while the GRU was hacking both the RNC and DNC but only releasing info from one party's committee shortly after one of the nominees asked. These are facts acknowledged by the Republican-led Senate Intel Committee.

2020, on the other hand, has accusation after accusation of widespread voter fraud with no substantiating proof, all while election deniers IGNORE the thoughtful responses by county election commissions, like Maricopa and Fulton, that went above and beyond to be fully transparent in providing evidence that fully addresses and refutes the accusations of fraud and exposes the deceit being used to advance Trump's Big Lie.

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It’s ok for the left to says there’s election fraud and unfair elections, but it’s “dangerous and could get someone killed” when others say it. pic.twitter.com/ix915JnNKj

— Hodgetwins (@hodgetwins) August 23, 2022

I don't see any of the 'there's no election fraud' types (and yes that of course includes georgiag) condemning all of this which claims Trump was fraudulently elected. Weird, you partisans sure are worried only about disproving/ignoring/excusing 2020 fraud, not 2016 stuff, or your team lining up to claim 2022 is going to be fraudulent (except in Pa and NC).

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Russia did, and will continue to, interfere in our elections. What I was told, and what turned out to not be true, was that Russia had damning Kompromat on Trump and that there was specific quid pro quo agreements between Trump and Russia. Trump was giddy about Russia hacking Hillary's emails and him getting up on stage and saying the "Russia if you are listening..." comment was tacky and unamerican. I think that comment alone caused people to wonder about his ties to Russia.

Kemp pulled some sorta shady stuff here when he was in the first race with Abrams, but I'm glad about that. Lord, I cannot take years of her as governor.

When Trump made that obvious joke, on camera, it was after Hillary had been whining and lying about Trump-Russia already for many months (and, of course, using the FBI/DOJ/intelligence folks in the process).

Goodness, thank you both for proving how partisan you are on this issue/matter (as with so many others).

Neither could bring yourselves to cite any of the leftist lies (including Brandon) in the video, as worthy of similar approbation. I appreciate you for both responding, and yet again proving my point.