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annie88 said:

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Layne Staley said:

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Sweet Baby Jesus, 8 pound bundle of joy and greatness, PLEASE give Griner 9 and a half years in a Russian jail!

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Can't stand her...but even I don't want that. I want her sentence to be only as long as it takes her to feel stupid for kneeling for the national anthem.

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Nine and a half years does seem excessive. I don't think that's warranted. But again, not our country. Can't help but thinking that Russia is trying to push a point here too.

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And death by execution in certain ME countries for comparable infractions seems excessive...that's why you don't flagrantly break their laws. That's why most smart people don't even go to these crazy countries.

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I was in Russia for about 2 1/2 weeks in 2012 and never once felt threatened or anything was crazy. But I also didn't break their laws.

The Russian people were very interesting. A very huge contrast between older and younger, those that had lived through communism and after the fall of the wall.

Not as friendly in general, very skeptical of people especially Americans. Not very "smiley" in general. Didn't really nod at you or greet you with a smile even when you were buying something. It wasn't like they were mean they just were very stoic.

One of our guides there was telling us about some things and mentioned he had gone to United States one time and literally cried when he walked into a grocery store to see how much abundance there was. The main thing he noticed was the different brands of the same thing. More than one milk, more than one butter, meats eggs etc. He said he couldn't believe anything like that existed. He said they had one choice for everything if they even got it.

Now with all that's going on over there who knows.

Must have been pre-Biden grocery store days

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One of our guides there was telling us about some things and mentioned he had gone to United States one time and literally cried when he walked into a grocery store to see how much abundance there was. The main thing he noticed was the different brands of the same thing. More than one milk, more than one butter, meats eggs etc. He said he couldn't believe anything like that existed. He said they had one choice for everything if they even got it.

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My cousin had a foreign exchange student from Russia about 10 years ago, and this was his exact reaction the first time they took him to a grocery store here.
The other funny story was that my cousin was showing him how they order pizza delivery online. He was all 'stoic' until she finished, then he simply said, "In Russia, we just call for the pizza". As if online ordering was a step BACKwards.

It's been stated over and over on this thread and I'll add to it. When I travel out of the US, I double down on common sense and I'm damn sure of the laws in the country. Carrying the hash oil, vape pen etc. would damn sure apply in this instance. If I drink when I'm abroad I damn sure never get behind the wheel and never do it in excess in public. No need to give anyone any reason to pull you over or ask you questions. It's worked well for me over 30 Plus years and in many countries. Is 9 years excessive? Not my country and not my laws...I can't judge their judicial system any more than liberals judging people for the 18th century with their 21st politcal and social beliefs.

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It's been stated over and over on this thread and I'll add to it. When I travel out of the US, I double down on common sense and I'm damn sure of the laws in the country. Carrying the hash oil, vape pen etc. would damn sure apply in this instance. If I drink when I'm abroad I damn sure never get behind the wheel and never do it in excess in public. No need to give anyone any reason to pull you over or ask you questions. It's worked well for me over 30 Plus years and in many countries. Is 9 years excessive? Not my country and not my laws...I can't judge their judicial system any more than liberals judging people for the 18th century with their 21st politcal and social beliefs.

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The **** you can't. We judge backwards ass decisions from all over the world all the time. That is a cop out.

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

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cypress-ag said:

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It's been stated over and over on this thread and I'll add to it. When I travel out of the US, I double down on common sense and I'm damn sure of the laws in the country. Carrying the hash oil, vape pen etc. would damn sure apply in this instance. If I drink when I'm abroad I damn sure never get behind the wheel and never do it in excess in public. No need to give anyone any reason to pull you over or ask you questions. It's worked well for me over 30 Plus years and in many countries. Is 9 years excessive? Not my country and not my laws...I can't judge their judicial system any more than liberals judging people for the 18th century with their 21st politcal and social beliefs.

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The **** you can't. We judge backwards ass decisions from all over the world all the time. That is a cop out.

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I think a lot of countries will throw the book at you for MJ, just like we used to do, at least in large swaths of the country. That's backwards and I do not support it, but who am I to cast stones when we have so many people and politicians advocating for FAR more barbaric laws like allowing full term abortions...or our alphabet agencies directly targeting only one side of the political aisle? In certain states, you could face up to several years in prison and $100k fine for tampering with sea turtle eggs, but in these same places, they are largely fine with you murdering a fully developed and viable fetus. We have many more laws and philosophies FAR worse than Russia's outdated overly harsh laws against MJ.

In some instances, I even look to the more barbaric punishments in certain countries as examples...Singapore is clean because they will beat the F out of you if they catch you spray painting or vandalizing buildings...certain ME countries probably have low theft because criminals know they might get their hand chopped off for taking something valuable that someone else worked really hard for.

We can bash Russia for their MJ laws all we want...but we have sections of entire cities that are warzones because we are PRO-CRIMINAL and anti-law and order in almost every city of this country.

I don't think we have a lot of room to judge Russia's judicial system.

The fun part in all of this is people comparing russias laws to ours, like that matters.

Not to mention the idiots bringing up she's only there because wnba doesn't pay much……….when you have a **** rotten product that sucks, people don't pay to watch.

Kamala catching some grief...

https://nypost.com/2022/08/05/kamala-harris-labeled-hypocrite-over-brittney-griner-comments/

""Brittney Griner got 9 years for drug possession in Russia… which sounds like most of the criminal sentences Kamala Harris got people for the same thing when she was attorney general of California," author Tim Young tweeted.

Another commenter wrote: "LMAO, didn't U lock up a sload of people for weed? Then bragged about it, and went on to say you smoked weed in college listening to Tupac and snoop before they cut their first albums?"

A third fumed in the same vein: "You locked up people for possession of marijuana. And you're only condemning this because the US cannot profit from her incarceration in Russia."

This you? https://t.co/sbBKdCcxjt pic.twitter.com/TAhruhJK2z

— Аарон Кюри ♋ 🌇 (@xxroncurie) August 5, 2022

This is just general advice.

Just a friendly reminder... don't take drugs that are still illegal in parts of this country... to a country where they are definitely illegal.

— Tim Young (@TimRunsHisMouth) August 5, 2022

Brittney Griner got 9 years for drug possession in Russia... which sounds like most of the criminal sentences Kamala Harris got people for the same thing when she was Attorney General of California.

— Tim Young (@TimRunsHisMouth) August 4, 2022

nortex97 said:

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Poor baylor. Hahahahaha, nevermind. Nobody gives a damn about you. You're still just baylor.

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They won the men's national championship in basketball in 2021, so they have that going for them.

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Here's my thoughts:
I don't like her, never have as far back as Baylor.
Don't like her life style.
Don't like her politics.
Don't like her stupidity and her actions.
Don't really like the fact that she is an American citizen. However, she is an American citizen and as such, she deserves all the help we can offer to get out safely.

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Don't want to do the time? Don't do the crime.

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but who am I to cast stones when we have so many people and politicians advocating for FAR more barbaric laws like allowing full term abortions...or our alphabet agencies directly targeting only one side of the political aisle? In certain states, you could face up to several years in prison and $100k fine for tampering with sea turtle eggs, but in these same places, they are largely fine with you murdering a fully developed and viable fetus. We have many more laws and philosophies FAR worse than Russia's outdated overly harsh laws against MJ.

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Why can't we cast stones at all those things? It doesn't have to be either or. Our system needs work. The Russian system needs work. Why is it so hard for y'all to say this is a dumb punishment and leave it at that?

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However, she is an American citizen and as such, she deserves all the help we can offer to get out safely.

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She deserves all the help we would give any other American citizen...and no more.

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Fair. And as the standard for the help we would give any other American citizen, we can use Marc Hilliard Fogel.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/07/28/marc-fogel-teacher-russia-prison/

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However, she is an American citizen and as such, she deserves all the help we can offer to get out safely.

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She deserves all the help we would give any other American citizen...and no more.

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Fair. And as the standard for the help we would give any other American citizen, we can use Marc Hilliard Fogel.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/07/28/marc-fogel-teacher-russia-prison/

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Agreed. She's asking for special treatment from the US government. Of course, I imagine she's getting special treatment from the Russians as well.

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but who am I to cast stones when we have so many people and politicians advocating for FAR more barbaric laws like allowing full term abortions...or our alphabet agencies directly targeting only one side of the political aisle? In certain states, you could face up to several years in prison and $100k fine for tampering with sea turtle eggs, but in these same places, they are largely fine with you murdering a fully developed and viable fetus. We have many more laws and philosophies FAR worse than Russia's outdated overly harsh laws against MJ.

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Why can't we cast stones at all those things? It doesn't have to be either or. Our system needs work. The Russian system needs work. Why is it so hard for y'all to say this is a dumb punishment and leave it at that?

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It's a dumb punishment. But play stupid games…

Hard to cry over an entitled race baiting idiot who hates America facing REAL oppression in a trash country.

Nobody is asking anyone to cry.

I guess he will enjoy a few back door cuts in the penal league…

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It's been stated over and over on this thread and I'll add to it. When I travel out of the US, I double down on common sense and I'm damn sure of the laws in the country. Carrying the hash oil, vape pen etc. would damn sure apply in this instance. If I drink when I'm abroad I damn sure never get behind the wheel and never do it in excess in public. No need to give anyone any reason to pull you over or ask you questions. It's worked well for me over 30 Plus years and in many countries. Is 9 years excessive? Not my country and not my laws...I can't judge their judicial system any more than liberals judging people for the 18th century with their 21st politcal and social beliefs.

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The **** you can't. We judge backwards ass decisions from all over the world all the time. That is a cop out.

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Judge it all you want you ain't gonna change ***** It's their country, their rules. Whine all you want but it's irrelevant what you think about them.

There are a lot of ****ed up countries and people in this world. That's why when I hear the left constantly bemoaning how horrible and racist and wicked and that America and basically white people are, I know they haven't really traveled very much outside the country or only to touristy areas. Asia, the Middle East, Africa and even many of the European countries are so much worse than we are.

But they don't believe it here. They truly don't. Britney Griner is a perfect example of this. *****ed and moaned over here how badly she was treated as a gay person and a black person, a woman and even playing in the WNBA, **** all over her country at every turn and now she goes somewhere else and gets a taste of foreign punishment, maybe she'll realize it ain't so bad here, but she won't. Even a **** wad like LeBron James can't keep his damn mouth shut and he's *****ing and moaning about how she's being treated. She's not in America LeBron. Meanwhile he just sucks on China's ass.

You'd think the left would learn from this and understand this but they won't. They are so caught up and everyone is a victim over here and America is horrible and racist. They really are vile people.

Nowhere in the world is perfect. But we got it a hell of a lot better here, but you certainly never know it and especially after Biden has ****ed up everything.

JUST IN - WNBA player Brittney Griner, who was held for months in Russian prisons on drug charges, was released in a one-for-one prisoner swap for international arms dealer Viktor Bout.

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) December 8, 2022

What BS
Biden's America

So the other guy that was busted for weed is still in jail?

Two different worlds.

Another fantastic Biden deal!

I just hope he learned a lesson in all of this.