***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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geoag58 said:

A cease fire will help stabilize the world and will stop the norks from using the Ukrainian people as test dummies for weaponry and tactics. The only people who will suffer from a cease fire are grifters and the MIC.


On the eve of Christmas you choose for a supposed stability/security at the sacrifice of a sovereign people the Ukrainians, while God sacrificed his son Lord Jesus on the cross for us sinners….Merry Christmas.
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Sure looks like a passenger jet was shot down today.

Not sure this is ukraine related but it's relatively close
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Who?mikejones! said:



Sure looks like a passenger jet was shot down today.

Not sure this is ukraine related but it's relatively close


Russian ADA finally succeeded……

Flaps in wrong position. Looked like pilots tried differential thrust, and did a hell of an impossible job saving 29 souls, though 9 in critical condition. Critical hydraulic components near tail where shrapnel is. Longer vids posted show the cycling of nose up nose down trying to get it on the ground like DHL did in Baghdad. Grozny supposedly had UKR drones in AO.

https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/s/gSWQtpoPw2
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Russia shooting down commercial aircraft is nothing new. Putin is one evil MFer.
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Shoots down a civilian airliner, threatens his invaded neighbor with nuclear weapons, and now this….





That Putin is quite a guy!
It only took me a year to figure out this place is nuts!
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Wow
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sclaff said:


Wow. he got it on the ground, but......

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Hope he purchased the rental insurance
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Russia keeping the hate hot going after civilian power again on Christmas Day.

"Zelenskyy said that more than 70 missiles, some of them ballistic, had been fired, as well as more than a hundred attack drones."

CHRISTMAS
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How?
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GenericAggie said:

How?


???
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JFABNRGR said:

GenericAggie said:

How?


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You said, "The Ukes don't have to retake territory they and the sane world need to make it cost so much for russians to hold, that eventually putin has to cede the ground. Who knows when that will be."

How will the world make it cost so much for the Russians to hold?

The problem is, Europe has decided to pay Russia for natural gas, effectively funding the war. So, how is the sane world going to make them pay? Stop buying cheap natural gas? How will they do that?

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GenericAggie said:

JFABNRGR said:

GenericAggie said:

How?


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You said, "The Ukes don't have to retake territory they and the sane world need to make it cost so much for russians to hold, that eventually putin has to cede the ground. Who knows when that will be."

How will the world make it cost so much for the Russians to hold?

The problem is, Europe has decided to pay Russia for natural gas, effectively funding the war. So, how is the sane world going to make them pay? Stop buying cheap natural gas? How will they do that?




Ok great question. With the exception of liquidating russian foreign assets, I can't comment on specifics on how to do that economically but its certainly a large part of it.

The rest has to come from significant losses in military, energy, infrastructure, etc resources that putin decides finally cost more than keeping the hallowed ground.

If NK is now supplying 60% he is nearing the end of his military supply and internal pressures are increasing.

The deep strikes are very costly but it seems russia is getting better defending or Ukes are low on deep strike weapons. The naval & air asset losses have been so great they don't even risk them anymore near the front. So supply more resources to increase these losses to answer your question.

I am doubtful for afull withdrawal to pre 2014 lines but I would like to see Mariupol returned along with a significant buffer SE side of Dnipro river.

**** putin

https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/how-much-russia-has-spent-on-the-war-4674
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Since drones became such a threat, there's been consistent chatter about shotguns as a last-ditch point defense weapon.



But they've never worked out effectively. BUCKSHOT
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Duplicate.
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Duplicate.
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That's not happening. They don't have the space to trade for it and the Russians won't give up a land side bridge to Crimea. The river bank opposite Kherson to Melitopol to Mauripol to Rostov-on-Don corridor was always a pre-invasion key and as soon as their decapitation attempt on Kyiv failed it was the major thrust of their forces. The Ukes had to defend Kyiv and relied on the limited forces south of Donbas and the Azov group to hold them, which they did for a time but there was no way for them to have the mobile reserves to be able to stop the Russians and it was the greatest failure for the long term ability to retake land for the Ukes. There is a narrow gap between the Dnieper and the elevated terrain west and north of Mauripol that is going to be the areas you can really attack from.

So I very much doubt they'll see any of that returned.
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Norks fork Orcs

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1000 NK casualties in a week.
https://united24media.com/latest-news/north-korean-troops-suffer-1000-casualties-in-a-week-in-russias-kursk-us-reports-4757
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The families of those NK fighters must know they will never see them alive again. They are there to catch Ukrainian bullets.
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Courtesy Flush said:

The families of those NK fighters must know they will never see them alive again. They are there to catch Ukrainian bullets.


Acceptable casualties
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Courtesy Flush said:

The families of those NK fighters must know they will never see them alive again. They are there to catch Ukrainian bullets.
Not likely. They're on a "training mission" that will glorify their beloved leader.
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More on the tanker involved in the latest Baltic cable cutting incident.

"After being seized by Finnish Police, the Eagle S was found to be "kitted out with special transmitting and receiving devices that were used to monitor naval activity, according to a source with direct involvement in the ship". That equipment "effectively allowed it to become a 'spy ship' for Russia."

SPY SHIP
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74OA said:

More on the tanker involved in the latest Baltic cable cutting incident.

"After being seized by Finnish Police, the Eagle S was found to be "kitted out with special transmitting and receiving devices that were used to monitor naval activity, according to a source with direct involvement in the ship". That equipment "effectively allowed it to become a 'spy ship' for Russia."

SPY SHIP
Keep it
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B-1 83 said:

74OA said:

More on the tanker involved in the latest Baltic cable cutting incident.

"After being seized by Finnish Police, the Eagle S was found to be "kitted out with special transmitting and receiving devices that were used to monitor naval activity, according to a source with direct involvement in the ship". That equipment "effectively allowed it to become a 'spy ship' for Russia."

SPY SHIP
Keep it
or gift to Ukraine.
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B-1 83 said:

74OA said:

More on the tanker involved in the latest Baltic cable cutting incident.

"After being seized by Finnish Police, the Eagle S was found to be "kitted out with special transmitting and receiving devices that were used to monitor naval activity, according to a source with direct involvement in the ship". That equipment "effectively allowed it to become a 'spy ship' for Russia."

SPY SHIP
Keep it


Sink it along with all of the shadow fleet.
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B-1 83 said:

Courtesy Flush said:

The families of those NK fighters must know they will never see them alive again. They are there to catch Ukrainian bullets.
Not likely. They're on a "training mission" that will glorify their beloved leader.
You spelled god wrong
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We will see. I assume this putin is putting this out there to pressure the ukes.
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Welcome Back
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Deliveries of promised Leopard 1 tanks are finally accelerating.

"The four-person Leopard 1A5 is set to become the most numerous Western-made tank in Ukraine, outnumbering the 104 newer German-made Leopard 2s, 80 American-made M-1s and paltry 14 British-made Challenger 2s."

LEO
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What's the life expectancy of any MBT near the front lines these days?
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