Waffledynamics said:
I have yet to feel that this has been adequately explained to me. Aside from the cruelty of putting unwilling countrymen against each other on the battlefield, what does this accomplish on a strategic level? Anything? Anything at all?
74OA said:Other way round. Lifters are typically cubed out well before they reach max weight.AgLA06 said:bonfarr said:CondensedFoggyAggie said:.@USMC and @usairforce personnel load M777 Howitzers bound for 🇺🇦 Ukraine onto a C-17 Globemaster III at @March_ARB in April 2022. pic.twitter.com/lJfYPMLO4c
— Department of Defense 🇺🇸 (@DeptofDefense) May 2, 2022Quote:
"The artillery was my strongest tool. Often it was my only reserve …. I repeatedly said it was more a matter of the infantry supporting the artillery than the artillery supporting the infantry…. I wish I knew the countless times that positions were taken or held due solely to TOT's …."
Major General R. 0. Barton
Commanding US 4th Infantry Division World War II
I bet those payload masters get hired pretty quickly once they leave the service. Amazon, FedEx and any number of shipping companies would be in high demand for their service.
Rightfully so.
And here I am thinking through ways they could adjust the load by canting the barrels up and having the blocking on the next piece instead of on the floor to fit more artillery pieces in.
Probably a gross weight issue instead of a fir more in situation I guess.
Here's a better shot of a different C-17 being loaded with M777s. The blocking appears to support the barrel up enough to fit between the raised spades of the following gun. RAAF
Don't take any of this as me agreeing with, condoning, and admiring what they are doing...but if your main goal is to smoke out where the enemy's heavy weapons and concealed firing positions are, the easiest way to find them is to send somebody down to "attack" them and watch where they get killed from. Then you can target those spots for artillery, helicopter, MLRS, ground attack aircraft, or missiles. It is a really terrible and brutal way to fight a war, but the Russians have done it forever that way. Their people are expendable to them, their newest equipment is not. So send out a group of conscripts in old T72s to draw the fire from the anti-tank defenses, and then attack those defenses using other means once they are exposed. If the conscript believes that you will go back and harm his family if he refuses, what choice does he have? The Chechens are there to make sure the conscripts don't turn their guns back to the east.Waffledynamics said:
I have yet to feel that this has been adequately explained to me. Aside from the cruelty of putting unwilling countrymen against each other on the battlefield, what does this accomplish on a strategic level? Anything? Anything at all?
But the U.S. official described a pattern in which Russia moves into an area in the Donbas region, claims victory, then withdraws.
— Dan Lamothe (@DanLamothe) May 2, 2022
Then Ukrainian forces often take the areas back, the U.S. official said.
Per @TheStudyofWar- “Russian forces did not conduct any confirmed ground attacks in Ukraine on May 2.
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) May 2, 2022
The April 30 Ukrainian artillery strike on the Russian command post in Izyum may be continuing to disrupt Russian efforts on the Izyum axis” https://t.co/K0k6SHUJoP pic.twitter.com/6Y6dikraAl
Snake Island, a Russian ZU-23 is struck by a Ukrainian TB2 pic.twitter.com/Fi4y1w8qJj
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) May 2, 2022
**UPDATE**
— H I Sutton (@CovertShores) May 2, 2022
Two #Russian Navy vessels seen east of Snake Island.
This is hours after the TB2 drone attack on two Assault boats, so likely different boats. Does not appear that attacked boats survived to sail away.
Corrected typo in initial graphic#OSINT #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/Vd2n0xpeuh
Sec of 🇺🇦 National security council implied today that Viktor Orban knew about the war from Putin & was counting on grabbing part of Ukraine once it would be defeated.
— olexander scherba🇺🇦 (@olex_scherba) May 2, 2022
Coincidentally, it comes on the same day as we hear that Hungary blocks #oilembargo on RU.#StandWithUkraine
🇷🇺 Belgorod, Russia - (2/5/22)
— OSINT-1988 (@OSINT88) May 2, 2022
Sirens and car alarms are currently going off after the recent explosions. pic.twitter.com/CE9XPbpNXK
MeatDr said:Sec of 🇺🇦 National security council implied today that Viktor Orban knew about the war from Putin & was counting on grabbing part of Ukraine once it would be defeated.
— olexander scherba🇺🇦 (@olex_scherba) May 2, 2022
Coincidentally, it comes on the same day as we hear that Hungary blocks #oilembargo on RU.#StandWithUkraine
That's disappointing.MeatDr said:Sec of 🇺🇦 National security council implied today that Viktor Orban knew about the war from Putin & was counting on grabbing part of Ukraine once it would be defeated.
— olexander scherba🇺🇦 (@olex_scherba) May 2, 2022
Coincidentally, it comes on the same day as we hear that Hungary blocks #oilembargo on RU.#StandWithUkraine
NEW: U.S. will have finished training 200 Ukrainians on M777 howitzer artillery by the end of the day: senior U.S. defense official
— Jack Detsch (@JackDetsch) May 2, 2022
The U.S. also continuing with a weeklong course for Ukrainians on Phoenix Ghost loitering drones.
More than 70 M777 howitzers arrived in Ukraine, which is about 80% of the total number of 90 guns that the United States undertook to provide.
— Ukraine 4 Freedom (@uawarinfo) May 2, 2022
Thank you, friends!❤️ pic.twitter.com/OdF4TQZPjy
⚡️U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson said on May 2 that Britain will provide $375 million in military aid for Ukraine, in addition to the $250 million they have provided so far.
— The Kyiv Independent (@KyivIndependent) May 2, 2022
The aid will include electronic warfare equipment and a counter-battery radar system.
Sergei Lavrov's case for Russia's denazification of Ukraine:
— Samuel Ramani (@SamRamani2) May 1, 2022
“So what if Zelensky is Jewish. The fact does not negate the Nazi elements in Ukraine. I believe that Hitler also had Jewish blood. Some of the worst antisemites are Jews.”
Zelensky's response to Sergei Lavrov:
— Samuel Ramani (@SamRamani2) May 2, 2022
“These words mean that Russia’s top diplomat puts the blame on the Jewish people for Nazi crimes. I have no words"
aggiehawg said:That's disappointing.MeatDr said:Sec of 🇺🇦 National security council implied today that Viktor Orban knew about the war from Putin & was counting on grabbing part of Ukraine once it would be defeated.
— olexander scherba🇺🇦 (@olex_scherba) May 2, 2022
Coincidentally, it comes on the same day as we hear that Hungary blocks #oilembargo on RU.#StandWithUkraine
ETA: If true.
⚡️Ukraine has received 24 of the 121 Phoenix Ghost loitering drones. -Pentagon⚡️
— spook (@spook_info) May 2, 2022
More details here. Hungary has repeatedly emphasized that it will not impose an embargo on Russian oil, and without an exemption or a long transition concession of this kind, a formal EU-wide oil embargo could be indefinitely delayed. pic.twitter.com/eoO9jWKGn3
— Samuel Ramani (@SamRamani2) May 2, 2022
IDK, maybe.Ag In Ok said:aggiehawg said:That's disappointing.MeatDr said:Sec of 🇺🇦 National security council implied today that Viktor Orban knew about the war from Putin & was counting on grabbing part of Ukraine once it would be defeated.
— olexander scherba🇺🇦 (@olex_scherba) May 2, 2022
Coincidentally, it comes on the same day as we hear that Hungary blocks #oilembargo on RU.#StandWithUkraine
ETA: If true.
So what could Hungary shared in return for some territory? NATO intel?
Orban seemed to be a good leader that pushed back against the EU over border incursions ordered by the EU of Muslim immigrants, wanted to reward his population to have children, etc.Rossticus said:
Orban has been interesting since his push to begin allowing Chinese reach into Hungary via the Fudan University project. There have been definite actions that make one consider whether Orban and Fidesz's preferred alignment might genuinely be with Russia/China.
Conscripts are mostly trained at their units, but the vast majority of ground regiments/brigades are partially deployed to Ukraine. In addition, a declaration of war and mobilization raises the personal stakes for Putin. Failing to win would place his position at even more risk.
— Rob Lee (@RALee85) May 2, 2022
Another Ukrainian TB2 strike in Snake Island, also via @UAWeapons.
— BlueSauron👁️ (@Blue_Sauron) May 2, 2022
As a result a Russian 9K35 Strela-10 SAM system was destroyed. #Russia #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/gKONVAnUrY
One example. Romania gained Chernivtsi via Nazi Germany in World War II and its now a stopover point for Ukrainian refugees entering Romania. This Romanian revanchism conspiracy builds on Russia's accusations that Romania will invade Transnistria pic.twitter.com/erhSdsBUBr
— Samuel Ramani (@SamRamani2) May 2, 2022
Interesting landing area either brand new runway since 2017 or some counterintelligence going on where the C17 landed. Nothing but crops at least through May 27, 2017.JFABNRGR said:
This longer VID of the M777 loadout on C17 shows departing Gander Canada.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaUkraineWar2022/comments/uguxmd/sending_the_m777_howitzer_to_ukraine_to_support/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
RCH395 C17 is 30,000 feet over Poland right now from Gander and likely about to descend. Of note is they highlighted the C17 from the Alaska National Guard. I wonder if that was on purpose Jab at the ruskies.
I have the feeling the forecast for eastern Ukraine for next week is RAIN. Indirect Fire raining death on the russians. Godspeed.
Zelenskyy running circles around the Russians again. I guess it's to be expected given UA's position, whereas for Russia it's hard to polish a turd.Rossticus said:Sergei Lavrov's case for Russia's denazification of Ukraine:
— Samuel Ramani (@SamRamani2) May 1, 2022
“So what if Zelensky is Jewish. The fact does not negate the Nazi elements in Ukraine. I believe that Hitler also had Jewish blood. Some of the worst antisemites are Jews.”Zelensky's response to Sergei Lavrov:
— Samuel Ramani (@SamRamani2) May 2, 2022
“These words mean that Russia’s top diplomat puts the blame on the Jewish people for Nazi crimes. I have no words"
🇷🇺 MOSCOW, Warehouse Fire - 2/5/22 pic.twitter.com/W5wfk2Y2OK
— OSINT-1988 (@OSINT88) May 3, 2022
Arial view of the fire in the Bogorodskoye district of Moscow. pic.twitter.com/N61L3z6Pd0
— OPSEC? (@GuinieZoo_Intel) May 3, 2022