***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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In reply to Rossticus • 12:34a, 4/23/22
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Rossticus said:
Seem to be differing stories on this depending on who you hear it from. Apparently denied clearance to land due to being a "military transport" instead of a "civilian transport".



https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/india-allows-japan-commercial-plane-to-pick-up-ukraine-relief/articleshow/90989559.cms
So, India is doing everything they can to help the Russian aggressors?
"Green" is the new RED.
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In reply to Old Sarge • 12:39a, 4/23/22
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No. India is staying very neutral, as far as I can tell.
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In reply to Waffledynamics • 12:44a, 4/23/22
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No. India is staying very neutral, as far as I can tell.


You can say "neutral" but I've seen stuff like this from a lot of Indians on Twitter. Interaction tonight:

"Says the slaves of US who is fighting their war"

"Ukranians are fighting for freedom because they took sides with US and started provoking Russia. Being a neighbour Ukraine should have had some responsibility. They didnt and now had to face the consequences.

The facts are there to be seen and read but the US thinks what it delivers are the facts just like how falsely labelled Soviet as cruel with their propaganda."

" US want to deploy military presence in Ukraine that rattled Russia.. challenging Russia national security. Russia reacted.
Ukraine is a scr@pG0at of west (US+UK - now also they don't want to stop war)
We condemned the war"
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In reply to Rossticus • 12:51a, 4/23/22
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Waffledynamics said:
No. India is staying very neutral, as far as I can tell.


You can say "neutral" but I've seen stuff like this from a lot of Indians on Twitter. Interaction tonight:

"Says the slaves of US who is fighting their war"

"Ukranians are fighting for freedom because they took sides with US and started provoking Russia. Being a neighbour Ukraine should have had some responsibility. They didnt and now had to face the consequences.

The facts are there to be seen and read but the US thinks what it delivers are the facts just like how falsely labelled Soviet as cruel with their propaganda."

" US want to deploy military presence in Ukraine that rattled Russia.. challenging Russia national security. Russia reacted.
Ukraine is a scr@pG0at of west (US+UK - now also they don't want to stop war)
We condemned the war"
I see equally ridiculous things from Americans. Is America now aligned with Russia because of that?
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In reply to Waffledynamics • 1:03a, 4/23/22
Here's another one. Just a general ignorance of history.

"Russia is doing what US did to Cuba during the cold war. The invasion wouldn't have happened if Ukrsine had not been a puppet of US. I feel sorry for the people of Ukraine."
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1:08a, 4/23/22

Ukraine soldier in front of a destroyed T-72B3. Happy hunting. Wonder what his kit is.

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In reply to Rossticus • 2:36a, 4/23/22
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Waffledynamics said:
No. India is staying very neutral, as far as I can tell.


You can say "neutral" but I've seen stuff like this from a lot of Indians on Twitter. Interaction tonight:

"Says the slaves of US who is fighting their war"

"Ukranians are fighting for freedom because they took sides with US and started provoking Russia. Being a neighbour Ukraine should have had some responsibility. They didnt and now had to face the consequences.

The facts are there to be seen and read but the US thinks what it delivers are the facts just like how falsely labelled Soviet as cruel with their propaganda."

" US want to deploy military presence in Ukraine that rattled Russia.. challenging Russia national security. Russia reacted.
Ukraine is a scr@pG0at of west (US+UK - now also they don't want to stop war)
We condemned the war"
i don't understand indian neutrality...actually partial russian leaning stand...
talk about biting the hand that feeds you...their rise out of 3rd world status came from significant integration with west/ massive diaspara population in US enhancing India back home etc etc and their struggle with China and yet Indian partial leaning toward russia...I get that they want cheap oil but they should consider long term consequences...
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3:17a, 4/23/22
Short and informative, soldiers praising the British NLAW
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In reply to OKC~Ag • 3:34a, 4/23/22
The US is one of the few countries that has the luxury of putting democratic principles over national security.

From a realpolitik POV, it is as beneficial India to stay neutral as it is for us to bleed Russia. The rest of the world (with unfriendlies on their border), put realpolitik ahead of Western ideas of democracy.

This is especially true if this war spirals out of control. Neutrality has its benefits, especially if you consider the price of fuel.
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5:39a, 4/23/22
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Germany's reluctance to assist Ukraine isn't based on post-WWII trauma but on the unhealthy entanglement of its current national leadership with Russia and Putin. STUBBORN
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In reply to 74OA • 5:43a, 4/23/22
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Germany's reluctance to assist Ukraine isn't based on post-WWII trauma but on the unhealthy political entanglement of its national leadership with Russia and Putin. STUBBORN
If I was a German I'd be calling for their heads.
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In reply to 3rd and 2 • 6:13a, 4/23/22
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3rd and 2 said:
74OA said:
Germany's reluctance to assist Ukraine isn't based on post-WWII trauma but on the unhealthy political entanglement of its national leadership with Russia and Putin. STUBBORN
If I was a German I'd be calling for their heads.
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In reply to OKC~Ag • 7:11a, 4/23/22
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Don't get it twisted…the Indians are still very sensitive to the fact that the US backed Pakistan against them and that Russia was on their side. I have several former Indian military friends that remind me of that regularly.
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7:22a, 4/23/22
I sense a pattern
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7:28a, 4/23/22
Allegedly video taken in the tunnels under the Mariopul steel factory, note posted unde the channel "Azov Media"

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7:40a, 4/23/22
interesting stat where $$$ to Ukrainian are from...not suprising

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In reply to Rossticus • 7:46a, 4/23/22
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Two Neptunes to your flagship should tell you you're not welcome in Southern Ukraine.
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10:54a, 4/23/22
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This is from the attack on the command center near Kherson. Excellent news! Dying in bunches now.


(Edited to post a more detailed tweet)
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11:33a, 4/23/22
Title of the article: "Our task is to make sure that there is simply no Ukraine." References to Kiev and Ukraine are removed from the textbooks of the publishing house 'Enlightenment' ".


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In reply to Rossticus • 11:35a, 4/23/22
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Interesting. Would that gun just be used for training? If so, why? Wouldn't it be better to train on a gun you'll actually use?

This also makes me skeptical of claims that seeing these very old weapons mean a side is scraping the bottom of the barrel. We know Ukraine is getting a lot of equipment, but they brought that gun out. Remember when we saw the old Maxim gun from the Russians weeks ago?
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In reply to Waffledynamics • 11:41a, 4/23/22
This is a large conflict and I think they're using everything that they can get their hands on. Impossible to know the breadth of usage, though, without any idea of actual stocks. It remains a very capable weapon but not at all portable/versatile.
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LOL
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