***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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In reply to Rossticus • 1:19p, 4/21/22
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The special operation is proceeding according to plan
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1:26p, 4/21/22
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In reply to Rossticus • 1:27p, 4/21/22
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I was an Aviation warfare systems operator (AW) on a P-3 during my military days. Would have loved to experience the P-8. Many of the airframes I flew on were older than I was.
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1:53p, 4/21/22
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All products
Other products
Butyl acetate
2-Ethylhexanol
Acetic acid
Acetone
Adipic acid
Butyl acrylate
Butyl alcohol (Butanol)
Castor oil
Fraction of aromatic hydrocarbons (FAH)
Glacial Acrylic Acid
Glycerine
Isobutyl alcohol
Kerosene TS 1
Maleic Anhydride
Methyl acetate
Mixed Xylene
Monochloroacetic acid (MCAA)
N-butanol
Orthoxylene
Phthalic anhydride
Propylene glycol
Sodium formate
Solvent Ultimax 646
Solvent Ultimax 647
Titanium dioxide
Toluene

Nope. Nothing flammable here.
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In reply to AggieChemist • 1:56p, 4/21/22
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AggieChemist said:
All products
Other products
Butyl acetate
2-Ethylhexanol
Acetic acid
Acetone
Adipic acid
Butyl acrylate
Butyl alcohol (Butanol)
Castor oil
Fraction of aromatic hydrocarbons (FAH)
Glacial Acrylic Acid
Glycerine
Isobutyl alcohol
Kerosene TS 1
Maleic Anhydride
Methyl acetate
Mixed Xylene
Monochloroacetic acid (MCAA)
N-butanol
Orthoxylene
Phthalic anhydride
Propylene glycol
Sodium formate
Solvent Ultimax 646
Solvent Ultimax 647
Titanium dioxide
Toluene

Nope. Nothing flammable here.
what no vodka
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In reply to PJYoung • 1:57p, 4/21/22
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Interesting that something 250 miles east of somewhere is considered the "outskirts".

I guess Dallas is on the outskirts of San Antonio
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In reply to rgag12 • 1:59p, 4/21/22
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rgag12 said:
Interesting that something 250 miles east of somewhere is considered the "outskirts".

I guess Dallas is on the outskirts of San Antonio
Everything in Russia is pretty much related to either St. Petersburg or Moscow.

If Houston and NY City were the only main metropolis in the US, Houston would be a reference for any other town in Ok, LA, NM area.
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In reply to BQ_90 • 2:00p, 4/21/22
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I want to stand around and breath burning toluene!
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In reply to AggieChemist • 2:05p, 4/21/22
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AggieChemist said:
All products
Other products
Butyl acetate
2-Ethylhexanol
Acetic acid
Acetone
Adipic acid
Butyl acrylate
Butyl alcohol (Butanol)
Castor oil
Fraction of aromatic hydrocarbons (FAH)
Glacial Acrylic Acid
Glycerine
Isobutyl alcohol
Kerosene TS 1
Maleic Anhydride
Methyl acetate
Mixed Xylene
Monochloroacetic acid (MCAA)
N-butanol
Orthoxylene
Phthalic anhydride
Propylene glycol
Sodium formate
Solvent Ultimax 646
Solvent Ultimax 647
Titanium dioxide
Toluene

Nope. Nothing flammable here.
Any of those essential for explosive or propellant manufacturing?
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In reply to Rossticus • 2:06p, 4/21/22
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Rossticus said:
Keegan99 said:
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We are just starting to get a little payback for the Russian involvement in Vietnam. However, in Vietnam, we wouldn't bomb airfileds and left Haiphong Harbor open for business due to now wanting to risk hitting any Russians.
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In reply to RebelE Infantry • 2:12p, 4/21/22
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RebelE Infantry said:
Keegan99 said:
Tweet was deleted. What was it?


Claim that US Navy Poseidon aircraft provided tracking and targeting data on the Moskva.

*If true* it could be construed as direct US involvement in the attack.
That Poseidon wasn't partaking in war assistance, it was on a special operation to survey whale sighting anomalies.
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In reply to ATX_AG_08 • 2:14p, 4/21/22
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And Ivan still hasn't learned that tanks in an urban environment need infantry support.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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In reply to 74OA • 2:17p, 4/21/22
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74OA said:
AggieChemist said:
All products
Other products
Butyl acetate
2-Ethylhexanol
Acetic acid
Acetone
Adipic acid
Butyl acrylate
Butyl alcohol (Butanol)
Castor oil
Fraction of aromatic hydrocarbons (FAH)
Glacial Acrylic Acid
Glycerine
Isobutyl alcohol
Kerosene TS 1
Maleic Anhydride
Methyl acetate
Mixed Xylene
Monochloroacetic acid (MCAA)
N-butanol
Orthoxylene
Phthalic anhydride
Propylene glycol
Sodium formate
Solvent Ultimax 646
Solvent Ultimax 647
Titanium dioxide
Toluene

Nope. Nothing flammable here.
Any of those essential for explosive or propellant manufacturing?


Sure. Not necessarily explicitly. Many are important industrial solvents and reagents.
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In reply to PJYoung • 2:22p, 4/21/22
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Russia is sure having a lot of spontaneous ammunition malfunctions these days. Time to gulag another 10 generals, Putin.
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2:29p, 4/21/22


And the soldier who shot it down

And what might be the aftermath, not 100% sure it's the same heli. NSFW
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Suspected employment of Starstreak due to visibly high velocity.
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Germany finding a way around its self-imposed restrictions on heavy arms transfers to Ukraine.

TANKS

"The planned workaround would see NATO ally Slovenia send a large number of its T-72 battle tanks to Ukraine. To replace these, Germany would then send Slovenia a number of Marder tanks and Fox wheeled tanks from its own supplies."

Note: Neither Marder nor Fox are tanks. Slovenia's tanks are M-84s, which are significantly upgraded T-72s.
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In reply to Spinnaker96 • 2:37p, 4/21/22
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They're all fast, tough to tell fast from really fast visually. Plus looks like the smoke trail was corkscrewing which suggests an IR seeker, not starstreak
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In reply to Spinnaker96 • 2:38p, 4/21/22
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Spinnaker96 said:


Suspected employment of Starstreak due to visibly high velocity.
The discarded MANPAD shown in one of the shoot-down videos just above looks like a Polish Piorun.
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2:47p, 4/21/22
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How many Russian/Soviet helicopters do you think the stinger system (or descendants of that system) has shot down? Has to be hundreds right? If you include the mujahideen in Afghan
You do not have a soul. You are a soul that has a body.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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In reply to AgBQ-00 • 2:48p, 4/21/22
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How many Russian/Soviet helicopters do you think the stinger system (or descendants of that system) has shot down? Has to be hundreds right? If you include the mujahideen in Afghan


Not nearly enough.
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In reply to CondensedFogAggie • 2:54p, 4/21/22
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And the soldier who shot it down

And what might be the aftermath, not 100% sure it's the same heli. NSFW
Boom, roasted.
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In reply to MeatDr • 2:56p, 4/21/22
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MeatDr said:
Need aircover/combined arms to take advantage of that.
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In reply to AgBQ-00 • 2:59p, 4/21/22
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AgBQ-00 said:
How many Russian/Soviet helicopters do you think the stinger system (or descendants of that system) has shot down? Has to be hundreds right? If you include the mujahideen in Afghan
333 helos in Afghanistan.

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MeatDr said:
.......and Slovenia recently agreed to send even more, with Germany backfilling Slovenia.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 3:04p, 4/21/22
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aggiehawg said:
AgBQ-00 said:
How many Russian/Soviet helicopters do you think the stinger system (or descendants of that system) has shot down? Has to be hundreds right? If you include the mujahideen in Afghan
333 helos in Afghanistan.

Link
If you scroll down that page it is starkly obvious when stinger came online in the fight. Intro'd Sept '86

almost all of the downings in '87 show shotdown by MANPADS.
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We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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In reply to AgBQ-00 • 3:11p, 4/21/22
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AgBQ-00 said:
aggiehawg said:
AgBQ-00 said:
How many Russian/Soviet helicopters do you think the stinger system (or descendants of that system) has shot down? Has to be hundreds right? If you include the mujahideen in Afghan
333 helos in Afghanistan.

Link
If you scroll down that page it is starkly obvious when stinger came online in the fight. Intro'd Sept '86

almost all of the downings in '87 show shotdown by MANPADS.
Seems it changed from only helicopters being shot down to fighter jets also being shot down the end of '84. Probably not a DShK shooting down jets.
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In reply to Rossticus • 3:15p, 4/21/22
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Rossticus said:


Not surprising since they have almost zero access to anything but state-controlled media, which is selling a fantasy of the gallant Russian Army rescuing fellow Russian-speakers being mistreated by Ukrainian Nazis.
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In reply to Rossticus • 3:17p, 4/21/22
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Rossticus said:
RebelE Infantry said:
Keegan99 said:
Tweet was deleted. What was it?


Claim that US Navy Poseidon aircraft provided tracking and targeting data on the Moskva.

*If true* it could be construed as direct US involvement in the attack.


Russia wouldn't do isht about it either way. They're just trying to get out of this with their ass intact and not having to obviously withdraw with their tails between their legs.


After this operation, they won't have anything between their legs.
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